Luka Dončić on what led to his 16th technical: “[Goga Bitadze] said he would f**k my whole family… at some point, I just can’t stand that. I got to stand up for myself.”
That’s quite graphic
What Goga said was unacceptable but I’m surprised Luka just straight up said it. Players in the past usually just leave it at “he said something that crossed the line and I wasn’t going to allow it.” Curious if this opens the door and all players will just air it out to the public going forward.
I think he aired it out because he wants the tech to be rescinded lol. But I agree usually its a “i’ma not say it” thing
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He’s facing a suspension from the NBA in the middle of potentially the hottest streak of his career.
He’s never said anything like this before publicly, so I assume he’s pulling out all the stops to try to get the tech/suspension rescinded.
lol even kg stopped at wives, goga’s a lil outta line tbf
KG made fun of Alonzo Mourning’s kidney failure.
Kg would cut up with the queens on rupauls drag race. This is such gay behavior i live
I was totally confused. Read this like KG was on Rupaul’s drag race.
No, but HE SHOULD BE
KG would SLAYYY🥰😅
Called Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient because he’s bald and said Lala (Carmelo Anthony’s wife) tasted like Honey-nut Cheerios
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There’s nothing corroborating that mother’s day story. The two have done interviews and all sorts of promo together afterwards even too.
Also Duncan’s mom died when he was 14.
KG called Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient
Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
Hey hey, he backedtracked and said he was a “cancer to his locker room” cmon now kg is absolved
You did a better job than KG honestly, his official quote is “You are cancerous to your team and our league”
Sorry KG but you’re not eloquent enough to say that mid-game. During a podcast KG thought the word for banter was “ritter”
Well to be fair whole family when the man has a kid and newborn infant kinda takes it to a whole nother level. Imagine you have a newborn and someone in the pub starts talking shit about raping your whole family that shit would start a fight anywhere in the world.
Honey nut cheerios
Bro KG said shit about Melo’s wife when he was on the Celtics. It got blown up on the media and everything. KG def shit about people’s wives.
That’s what “stopped at wives” means, that he didn’t go further than that.
So is that the hierarchy? Dead moms (Duncan) and cancer (Charlie V) are below wives?
Luka just straight up said it
I mean Luka is probably trying to get that tech rescinded lol, most guys usually aren’t in the position where they’re about to get suspended for a game.
Probably because he said it in a language that only they would know, so Luka felt he needed to make it clear to everyone how disrespectful it was.
He should’ve have tbh, Players shouldn’t hide disgusting remarks made by some of the most professional players in the world. Maybe it’ll teach Gogo or whatever his name is a lesson in respect
He was also saying it in Serbian so only people who speak Serbian knew what gogurt was saying.
I think you have to understand Balkan swearing a bit. In fact, there was a thread on it just yesterday in the AskBalkans sub (I’d link it but the mods frowned on that) which is why it’s still fresh in mind. Most of those comments make Goga’s seem somewhat, tame.
For example, the first comment was
May a canine copulate with your entire first row at your funeral
Another good one was
I wish god would take my life so I can fuck your ancestors
Or one that just had me rolling,
I will shit in all your mother’s dead relatives
Eh, tame, last one could be Romanian “Ma fut in mortii ma-tii” I will fuck your dead mother’s relatives.
Still, when you say shit about family in the Balkans, be prepared for escalation.
I wouldn’t hide it either. If you’re disrespecting me like that, I don’t owe you anything
The funniest thing about this is that he could be lying and no one will ever know
That would be dumb bc the truth would be figured out pretty quickly
Idk we still don’t know about Mason Rudolph and Myles Garrett
Goga can say that’s not what he said, then what? Are they gonna ask one of the other players on the court what was said in a language they don’t understand?
Funny you mention it:
“I have all the respect for Luka and what he has done,” Bitadze said. “And I really respect everybody’s family. Where I come from, it’s really sacred and we really respect each other’s families, and I would never directly say that. He just said some inappropriate things in the Serbian language, which, I played in Serbia, I understand.
“I don’t know if he knew I understood what he said. So, I just said it back. And it was nothing towards his family or anybody. His family, I really, truly respect them.”
When asked to clarify what barbs were volleyed between the two, Bitadze said: “He said something about my mother, which, it’s really inappropriate. We don’t say that stuff during the game. … So I just said whatever he told me or [about] my mother [and] said it back.”
Bitadze added: “It was just in the heat of the moment. I heard what he said, and I felt like I had to respond the same way. So, from my side, if he feels like I said something too much or crossed the line, I apologize as a man. I can take [accountability], but I didn’t say anything, but what he said.”
They have microphones all over the court. It would take 10 minutes to confirm.
They do that cuz they lying usually
I fully endorse airing it out when something that psychopathic is said
In English it sounds bad, in Serbo-Croatian it’s actually less personal than it sounds, it’s more an expression than anything. Here’s Luka telling Jokic “I Fuck your Mother”
Tbh if he said it in Serbian, in translation its way more offensive but over there id see it as a more common trash talk, still fighting words but not as impactful as the translation maybe? Or I’m just desensitized to it lol
the Balkans have very unusual phrases e.g boli mi kurac which means “my dick hurts” and it’s often used like “I couldn’t care less” lol
Edit to add another goodie lol
“jebem ti sve po spisku iz prve linije” which means “fuck every one of your family members in the first row at your funeral”.
That last one is insane but the dick hurts one is genuinely hysterical. Like imagining someone complaining to someone about their life and the person just saying “my dick hurts” is completely frying me rn
“but bro you’re going to miss out on the party”
“My dick hurts”
I desire to use this in everyday life.
My dick hurts
see it as a more common trash talk,
Ah, that’s what I would’ve assumed.
whoa
Nobody does hate quite like the Balkans.
The only people we hate more than each other is ourselves
Here’s Luka telling Jokic “I’ll fuck your mother”
wtf Goga
I’ve made comments in the past about how Goga is an underrated defensive C and I hoped the Lakers pursued him this offseason.
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I think Luka will make him pay every time he can if he’s on the opposing squad, a good motivator to get him fired up.
But, if they became teammates I’m sure they can bury the hatchet ala Kobe and Artest er Metta, and Lance and Lebron.
This comment changed his defense?
No, just that the FO won’t pursue a player that said he’d fuck the franchise players family
Lmao I’m sorry I had to laugh at this but yeah Luka doesn’t want him now
I promise that Goga wouldn’t be the most morally reprehensible person on your team. There’s another Center, literally right there in front of you.
You can hear it clearly at 1:00 of this video: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/S7EcUcTv2k Goga yells “Hey, jebem ti mater”. Which means “Hey, I’m fucking your mom.”
Its really hard to explain nuances, but “jebem ti mater” is way way closer to “fuck you” then to the literal translation in english, its pretty much the most used insult in the countries of former yugoslavia and ppl don’t mind it.
there are other slurs, that are a lot less accepted then this.
I know enough people who use “motherfucker” as punctuation to see the parallels.
Literally the most popular swear word in the balkans is “i will f your mother”. It is taken way less seriously in any balkan language
Listen, I get basketball is a highly competitive sport but what even causes someone to say some shit like this?
Like thats not even good banter, just straight up being an ass. Lol.
Probably just trying to get that 16th Tech out of Luka
Yeah the whole Magic bench was chirping at Luka too. I heard it over the radio and immediately thought they were trying to bait Luka
For basically all of sporting history that’s been a very valid way to deal with a superstar. Try and get in their heads through any means possible
The only good response has and always will be ignoring it and playing well on the court
Valid until they start saying shit like they’re going to fuck your family.
It’s not like he’s really gonna do it you know ?
One of the many reasons fighting is allowed in hockey. Say shit like that and someone will hold you accountable before the game is done and you’ll remember it.
no its because they are on ice, that’s literally the only reason lol
if they could properly plant their feet and really hurt eachother it would have never even caught on. They used to fight in the NBA pretty often too, people almost died, blood was being spilled on the courts, multiple facial surgeries of a bunch of different players needed lol
you don’t see that in hockey because they can’t fight correctly on ice
sorry for breaking your tough guy illusion, hockey is a cushy rich kids sport anyway. Getting into a fist fight on a basktball court is much more dangerous than on ice in a full set of pads.
or just being the stereotypical psycho athlete. the type of stuff you hear sometimes is crazy lol
Saying something like that in Serbian is as common as saying “good morning”. We’re desensitized to it. I assume Luka took it personally because of all of his family drama, but any other time, I bet he laughs it off.
I’m Serbian. I’ve heard, said and been told things non-Serbs would consider vile, but to us it’s just words. Swearing in Serbian is poetry, and you usually never take it seriously or personally.
I’m glad you said this. To vastly oversimplify, imagine a player taking ‘motherfucker’ literally. That’s what Luca is doing. The severity of the translation is throwing people, but that’s just one of thousand ways to express ‘fuck you’ in Serbian.
Luca knows this too, he’s just trying to get the tech reversed.
I feel like this should be a top comment. Let people make their own opinions on it, but this context is important
i disagree completly,ive seen balkaners completly flip out for simple jebem ti mater if he isnt ur friend and the timing is bad
Similarly for us Americans, telling your friend to “suck my dick” can be funny. Telling someone you don’t know to “suck my dick” often leads to fights. At least where I’m from in US anyways.
I ain’t even Serbian and my first reaction was, “that’s it?” It’s obviously inappropriate and unacceptable but someone saying they’ll fuck your family has to be some of the mildest inappropriate trash talk ever. Seeing the reaction in this sub was doing my head in for a moment. Then I remembered it’s reddit and 98% of people in this sub have never played a sport at even a semi high level.
There have always been guys who’d say shit like that. Shaq and KG both would say wild shit like this trash talking. Everybody was on record saying MJ would use anything in trash talking. Families, personal shit, tragedies, all of it.
Mentioning tragedies is too far tbh.
One thing that’s underdiscussed about Bron is how he doesn’t resort to serious trash talk.
Bron will say nice words to a dude going through shit before the game and it has long been used against him. Especially early in his career, people acted like it was horrible for him to be human and treat basketball like basketball
LeRespectful
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CompLementary
Young LeBron had the Gilber Arenas free throw one liner tho
Yep, great example of appropriate and good trash talk
Reggie Miller was all about that life too lol
Gary Payton is always the one I think of
Georgians have a lot of really graphic and. Creative swear words and phrases lol. What’s surprising to me is that in Georgia, anything mentioning someone’s Mom is an automatic serious fight so it’s surprising that he just so casually threw out an insult like that
“I’m going to fuck your family” isn’t the least bit creative
‘I’m going to seduce your family one by one and create a harem’
What causes someone to say something like that is literally just trying to get a technical
KG had said way worse
Thats actual trash talk. You hear this all over sports, especially hockey.
Not saying it’s right, but I can guarantee Luka has said the same sort of shit when trash talking, so him airing it out to try and avoid a suspension is kinda opening up a whole other can of worms.
Yikes, it’s pretty rare for a player to share verbatim what was said in trash talk. Clear he crossed a line Luka couldn’t tolerate
What makes you think it was verbatim, maybe it was a lot more graphic
He listed the family members by name?
Luka would have to punch him if he listed his infant daughter’s name. No shot he did that at all.
That’s not trash talk. That’s garbage.
So in other words it’s trash talk. Wtf do you think KG was saying to his opponents?
I mean isn’t like all trash talk garbage?
Did Goga just watch a Serbian Film?
Goddamn, I hate that you reminded me of that film. I watched it as a teenager and had to stop halfway through for two hours to just sit in my room in silence. Really wish I didn’t watch the second half.
I bet i can guess exactly the part you stopped it at
I mean I think we all know, it’s the most fucked part of the movie. The director got jail time right?
ok I’ll never watch it, what happens?
I looked it up on Wiki. I’d rather not summarize that movie on my account since it may result in a warning or ban by the NBA mods, so I’ll leave the link to the Wiki article for you to read.
If you just want a super short summary: A struggling family man is down bad for money, so he agrees to act in a film after a stranger offers him some work. He does some parts of it, feels uncomfortable proceeding through the rest and leaves, blacks out, and then wakes up at home days later covered in blood. He goes back to the set and finds video tapes waiting for him, pops them in, and sees that over the past few days, him and others were drugged and used for shit that would get someone the death penalty in most countries, all for the film.
It’s up there with Cannibal Holocaust on the disturbing scale.
For starters, think of the worst thing you could possibly think of that could happen to a baby, and then tell yourself that one of the scenes is even worse than anything you just thought of.
shit idek if I can describe it here on Reddit shit might put me on a watchlist, just look up Serbian film plot on Google
Hell nah. That’ll put me on a list.
I couldn’t even describe to you the sheer paranoia I felt as a dumb teenager when I saw it on a sketchy website , but yeah, nobody should seek out and watch it, im sure there’s even more depraved shit out there but a Serbian film is one of the more known ones, it’s just awful; makes the inevitable of the sun one day swallowing the earth sound like a gift to humanity
I knew as soon as I saw Luka walk up to the ref to talk about it that it had to be something bad, he’s always up for trash talk. As someone that can speak the language as well I assume he said “Jebat ću ti cijelu familiju” or something in that range. That would be in line what Luka said
Yeah Luka lives for trash talk, his reaction spoke volumes. Goga crossed the line
What does that Serbian phrase mean and how offensive is it often considered?
If Luka said jebem ti matter, (fuck your mother), it sounds horrible but its legit what we say between friends, family, in so many non serious exchanges. Its kinda like saying fuck you to a friend or a sibling. With the added bonus that often our parents say it to us a lot lol.
If Goga said jebat cu ti cijelu obitelj/familiju (ill fuck your whole family), thats rarely said non seriously, and those are somewhat fighting words. But theres plenty worse than both.
diffrence is if ur friend is saying it or someone u dont really know
Goga wants to fuck Luka’s dad? That’s weird but to each their own I guess
It’s not about want, it’s about the principle
Goga eats pieces of shit for breakfast?
Yall eat pieces of shit? what’s the basis
In soviet russia, dad fucks you
That’s just alabama actually
This is an NBA sub. Please only involve states or cities that have NBA teams. In place of Alabama we recommend Oklahoma. Same proclivities but has a NBA team.
It’s kind of a normal curse in Serbia. We have some fucked up curse phrases, you simply don’t think about what it means, it’s just something you say. This one you may say in traffic, for example.
I do believe it’s the tone it was said with. Changes the whole context.
Understandable, Luka. Appreciate him taking accountability as well.
Shit talking used to be creative or witty. Saying shit like this is definitely lazy, fucked up, and would likely get you killed/stomped IRL.
For the knuckle draggers: Luka has children. So he’ll fuck them too? Anyone defending this shit needs to pick their controller back up.
Lmao what are people even talking about in these comments. Killed? wtf actual keyboard warriors on this sub
Meet me in Temecula
Bro KG told Carmelo his wife tastes like Honey Nut Cheerios let’s stop with the back in my day holier than thou stuff
That’s pretty creative tbh.
And doesn’t involve children
Nobody seriously believes fucking your family means I’ll have sex with your children 😂 like please stop saying that
did you even read his comment before replying? he said shit talking used to be creative and you just proved him right lmao
Kg also called Charlie villanueva a cancer patient. Then told reporters that he said Charlie v “was a cancer to his team and our league.” Lmao
And that’s still a fucking lane away from “im going to fuck your whole family”
Edited.
didn’t KG and Carmelo both come out and say he did not say that?
It was a random shitposter on Twitter that said it and it caught on lol.
TBH KG is kinda piece of shit with the trash talk. He once said some shit about Tim Duncan’s mom on Mothers Day, knowing that Tim’s mom had died of breast cancer when he was 14.
Melo said that’s untrue and not what was said.
Saying he’s gonna r**e his infant children is the same as saying he’s fucked his wife, ok.
He never said that lmao wtf
Luka has children. So he’ll fuck them too?
😂 Bro you’re the only one who’d break down trash talk and take it literally
Not defending it, but there’s literally videos of Luka yelling at fans that their mom’s are hoes
Luka’s played enough video games to not get triggered by this shit, let’s be real.
Never liked Goga but jfc that’s an insane thing to say
Dude is definitely a counter strike or LoL player
If it was in Serbian it isn’t as personal as it sounds. My mom tells me worse shit regularly.
It’s crazy how hard Laravia’s regressed this year. Swear he was way better at the start of the season and things looked so bright for him. Then sometime after the start of the new year, things started to stink and get real ugly. Hasn’t gotten any better and doesn’t look like it will any time soon.
He has like 3 great games to start the first weeks of the season and everyone adjusted their expectations to be way too high lol
Haha, yeah. Admittedly, I got a bit excited after that big game he had against the Timberwolves, and when everyone was asking who number 12 was. Hoping he can regain his form again.
The Lakers actually have zero spacing, they’re winning despite that but Smart is genuinely their best bet for kickouts because he will actually take them.
Rui and Laravia won’t take shots unless they’re absolutely wide the fuck open with the defender in a different postcode, Laravia is gonna airball half of them as well, Kennard is fine but he’s also very low volume but he gets a pass for decent playmaking, he should really be chucking 5+ though.
The Lakers have too many forwards. Kennard is a guard and it balances their lineup in a way that they don’t have to play 3-4 forwards in a game. Laravia looked good when Hachimura was injured, and fell off a cliff when he came back (because Hachi is a better player)
what did matas say that was so bad luka couldn’t say but can retell this one
let’s be so serious, luka was half smiling the whole time he was talking to reporters about chirping with matas. the situations are clearly not the same
and matas was a ballin starter, goga was a fodder benchwarmer
It was fun regular trash talk, that didnt cross a line or involve raping his family ig
Luka will be suspended unless this tech is taken away by the nba so he’s just explaining his response to Goga
Most times in this exact situation the player just says he “won’t comment on what was said but they crossed a line”
Luka is on one of the better streaks of his career and the lakers have won 9 in a row so he doesn’t want to mess it up by being suspended
Players gonna bait him for the rest of the season
and his techs will keep getting rescinded or he’ll take his suspension on a night when we wants to sit. Adam Silver ain’t keeping Luka out of a game right now, he’s one of the only redeeming things the league has going right now
They haven’t even rescinded this one yet. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
Elite pearl clutching itt
Luka has guaranteed said the most outta pocket filthy shit on the court in Slovenian
Every time I hear him swear it’s in Serbian.
Well now players know what to do to get technicals on Luka
It won’t work if they say it in English with the refs there though. Speaking in a different language is lowkey a cheat code
Half the guards in the NBA on Duolingo rn.
Teams now hiring language teachers to incite technicals lol
Gotta roll the dice on whether talking shit gets him to drop 50 on you or be suspended the next game…maybe even both!
Do you guys seriously think that athletes don’t shit talk about families?
I’ve been genuinely shocked by some of the replies lol
bro half these kids from flyover states just picked a team when they turned 8 of course they’re soft
nah bruh fam it’s INSANE and not cool and we should take it literally and overreact
average eastern European slur tbh
Does Goga speak Serbian from his Mega days? If so, it was probably something like Jebem ti sve or Jebem ti mamu which isn’t as personal as it sounds
I’m really curious what people expect when they hear players trash talk on the court if this is too far for people…
“poor shooting form bucko! try again”
-Tim Duncan
When I was in Serbia I learned that they curse differently. One curse I learned is instead of “fuck off” they’ll say the literal translation of “fuck your entire line” meaning fuck everyone in your family.
Obviously I don’t know for certain but my guess is this was a lost in translation of how cursing works in different countries.
Georgia is like the Balkans. Pretty much the Caucaus to the Balkans all swear like this.
My mother is Bosnian, they say fucked up shit.
My father is Macedonian, they say fucked up shit.
Turks say shit like “I hope God kills me so I can fuck your ancestors”.
I’ve heard my uncles say things like “Fuck your sister with a horse cock over your dead mother’s grave”.
Cultural context is huge in this context.
Luka was being a BABY and using America’s cultural standards as a way to try and get someone else in trouble. He knew full well what Goga said meant absolutely nothing!
You should listen to my great uncles and their friends play cards with each other.
They will say things like “I will become a dog and fuck all your bloodline from Monkey to Google(now)”.
100% this is truth . Luka is using the American “game” that must be played within NBA society & got Goga in trouble bc he got a tech so fuck it time to snitch , gona be great next time they play hahahah
yeah dont say that to somebody who has 2 really young daughters
I’m sure Goga was doing his research before trash talking with such a basic insult…
If y’all think Luka said nothing similar y’all are dumb af
That tech is getting resinded.
That’s crazy I bet Luka has never ever said anything fucked up during a game
Wtf is going on in this thread? Like, what did you thing players say to each other to get into someones head? Of course its fucked up shit like this and its every night
Is it just me or is this giving snitching to the class teacher vibe. I honestly doubt Luka is kind and respectful with his words on the court…
KG levels of trash talk
Didn’t KG tell Melo in a game that LaLa’s pussy tastes like fruity pebbles?
Bro talks an insane amount of trash. Someone gives it back to him just as good as he gives and it’s an international incident.
If this was Jokic you’d be at the NBA headquarters tomorrow morning with your picket sign protesting.
lol soft. Guaranteed he’s said worse on the court
So will every bad boy in every next game do the same thing?
He’ll have 30 techs by the finals and have to sit 3 games?
Holy shit this thread softer than Luka.
Got rage baited
ayo wtf
Pearl clutching
Goga said that Luka said the exact same thing first directed at gogas mother so he retaliated by repeating the same thing. Not sure who is telling the truth but the Lakers are trying to appeal it
Luka biggest trash talker - please gtfoh - you talk it have to be able to receive it also
After Luka’s terrible 2nd half performance, teams now have an officially designated “fuck Luka’s whole family” guy.
That’s tremendously fucked up and I’d expect a comment like that to cause a fight
Do people really think that’s like that bad of a thing to say lol? Like it isn’t something your casually say to a friend. But on the court it doesn’t seem like something that’s so out of pocket it crosses the line
Idk why but if someone said they’d fuck ky family id die laughing
Ok but this was the SIXTEENTH tech and that’s with him having a long leash. Even if this one was reasonable, the others weren’t and he knew he is up against the limit. And now players know they can taunt you into another one? You aren’t 19 anymore, have some tough skin and bury a 3 in the guys face and let him know he fucked up