JJ Redick: “We’ll obviously try to get that rescinded. There were certain things said in a language that the referees couldn’t understand in reference to Luka’s mom”
One thing that cannot be debated is that refs absolutely did not have control over wtf was going on in this game in any regard for either team
Refs getting in playoff form just out there living their best lives, trying new shit, blowing the whistle when they feel like they need to not based off any observable information coming from the game.
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Honestly no vibes either, just DraftKings.
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Luka told that dumb ass ref what he was saying to him before his free throws. Dude was talking about Luka’s mom and family in Serbian and he still kept at it. This was 100% on the refs. Then luka responds, defending his family and the double T them.
Across both the NBA and college it seems like we’ve seen an increase in the last year of so regarding fights and situations getting way out of hand. Refs need to do a better job of establishing control
refs absolutely did not have control over wtf was going on in this game
The Marc Davis special
Refs heard Luka say “pićka” and gave him a tech
One of the few words and phrases I know thanks to my Yugoslavian born friend from highschool I also know, “Suck my dick”
Pickachu ?
Puši mi kurac
Pussy my crack?!?!
WHISTLE
that’s a technical foul!!
More like “pushy me koo-ratz” if you want an english transcription, but yeah
i liked it better when it was pussy my crack tbh😅
Well then you can go and puši mi kurac
My Neck, my Back🥰
My Pusi and my Kurac🥵
That would be a fire rapper name ngl.
Bre even told you how to write it. Im impressed and in a weird way proud.
OMG, this is a family sub!
You first
I too know “suck my dick”. Not impressed
In what does that mean? Similar to p*ta?
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Typing no no words is tough, I know. I have faith you’ll get there one day.
why are these people censoring puta or pussy, these aren’t even slurs
actually, thinking about it, puta might be one? I’ve just become aware I’m not quite sure the criteria for separating insults from slurs from curse words in the english language, gonna have to google that for a bit
These f#(king p#ss!es are afraid to type dumb @ss expletives on a platform that is filled with sh!tty language.
Try me mo*herfucker
Funny because pika means the opposite in some languages
Pika chuuu!
Bless you
Or some form of “jebem ti …” A balkan classic.
I mean Luka walks up to the ref before he shoots his 2nd free throw and you can hear on the broadcast him saying he’s talking about his family. Ref nods, then immediately gives double techs when Luka tells Goga “I’ma fuck you up” while walking backwards after shooting the FT.
Unrelated to this incident but back when buddy hield was on the warriors I went to a game and heard Goga chasing him around the court for fifteen minutes straight making hee-haw donkey noises at him
I’m annoyed at you for writing this because now I’m annoyed at myself for laughing really hard about this. That’s fucked up
It’s not that I don’t believe you but this looks like a copypasta
How has he not been flattened yet? Is he just shit? I have no idea who this clown is so I’m not familiar with his antics.
He’s a real big mf, sometimes that’s all it is
Eastern European too. Don’t wanna fuck with those. Chirp back and the generational trauma ingrained into them on a genetic level goes into overdrive
not just eastern european, he’s georgian, that’s east of eastern europe, that guy grew up carrying donkeys up and down Caucasus
Thicky Rubio
Idk but I felt bad for Buddy. he was close to tears by the end of it. Definitely in poor taste. Guy’s a complete jester.
Damn. I like buddy. He’s a good dude. That’s fucked up.
jestermaxxing
Goga isn’t that bad come on man. There are so many characters who are worse. These are heat of the moment spurs, but that 15 minute hee haw thing is just too funny
Not Draymond? Donkey noises for Buddy Hield?
When Goga and Buddy were teammates in Indiana that team was a mess.
Lol it’s tangentially related.
That’s so fucking funny man
It was telling to me that when he got the tech he wasn’t even that mad. He felt like he had to respond regardless of the consequences. So it must have been really personal and egregious.
Goga didnt care either.
Does that sentiment work both ways?
Goga might have just thought it was common shit talking. But given Luka’s domestic situation, it’s gonna hit a little bit different for him. Regardless you don’t need to talk to about a person’s family like that in any circumstance.
From what I can gather, Luka started it.
And then didnt like Gogas response.
Which does fit Lukas on court personality
According to Goga Luka said F your mom in Serbian to him (which Goga understood because he played in Serbia) so he said F YOUR mom in Serbian back.
It was a different ref that T’d them up I believe
That doesn’t narrow it down because it feels like half of all Balkan insults involve somebodies mother.
I’ll eff your mum is kind of our go to here
Wait until Americans learn what “nabijem te na kurac” means.
Truly, it has been my favourite slur since I was taught that! Gotta love having Serbian/Bosnian friends.
nabijem te is lot of like who gives fuck - I guess it sounds unusual, but it is an underwhelming phrase indicating that the person or a situation you are dealing with is perfectly ordinary and nothing to stress about.
for example, ma nabijem ga na kurac sounds dramatic on the surface but communicates stress relief. kind of opposite.
I was told it means “I will impale you on my dick”. Unless it means something else in one of those slavic words, I know for certain it means that exactly in Croatian.
It’s just natural. When the objective is to hit them where it hurts, it simply has to go for the female family members, i.e. daughters, sisters, wives and MOMS
You should be allowed one Zidane style headbutt per season, have teams be forced to do scouting reports on which players you can insult their family members because they’ve already used their headbutt earlier in the season
Coach Ham would have saved that headbutt to carry over to next season.
Nico Harrison would trade his headbutt for an anthrax coated catheter.
a lot of dad insults here though. like let thy father fuck you, the very one who has made you. it is equal in its gravity as any of mom ones and super rare to hear in full mouth.
if he rlly wanted to low blow it would he not just ask luka about his daughters and fiance we have all seen luka say crazy things about ppls mothers in serbian
What did Luka ever say about people’s mothers in Serbian? I never heard him doing anything like that before.
he averages 7 jebem ti mamos and 20 pičku maters per game bro
There would be far more serious repercussions for that, this was the far more safe option.
Facts.
Balkans.
I saw a woman talking about Balkan insults once, and she said th worst insult she could come up with was “I’ll drag my balls across your mother’s birthday cake.”
I mean “mothafucker” is pretty common just about anywhere I imagine.
“You mother fucker” is very different than “I’m gonna fuck your mom.” But thats just English. Insults in many languages target the mother/family but it has a different overall meaning when translated. I personally think the tech should be rescinded for Luka because he didn’t start that talk (that we know of) but it’s tough to compare insults in the native language to their english translation. It’s not a simple 1 to 1 issue most times. I’m mostly familiar with spanish and some of those have different connotations in spanish vs english.
Sometimes I believe that Ex-Yugoslav languages were made just for cursing.
You would not believe the foulness of the words that can come out of people’s mouths when cursing in said languages.
We do, in fact, love to discuss the positions and actions of other mothers, correct. But that’s not the main magic. Over decates we developed the linguistic urge to fuck everything. The sun, day, sometimes bikes or other objects/people/stuff that exists. And it’s not a hateful thing to do. We fuck things for fun or just because.
Thanks for listening and jebi ga :)
he who fucks you, let him write you poetry
they don’t understand - their language mostly communicates; our does too, but with imagination and playfulness and serving as a valve ingrained in its core
look at it as a neglected department of comparative literature; the context is not to be overlooked
Can i get the first phrase as a wall tattoo? With flowers and shit.
actually, it is one of the most common graffiti here. a lot of unrequited love had to be released somehow, I guess. yeah, you can - everybody was at that stage of grief, I presume, and sentiment is awfully familiar, so nobody would even say anything while maintaining a moment of most compassionate eye lock and indulging in nostalgy for long lost days. so, yeah, as far as we are concerned, go ahead.
I just wrote, this is a common thing to hear and not something shocking. There’s no lines crossed here like they’re trying to make it sound.
If you say it to your best friend and he gets upset sure - but most wouldn’t care or would just take it as a joke. You don’t get upset at strangers saying this.
Like you’re driving and someone yells at you “hey fuck you”, would you call the police and be like “this is unacceptable behavior, come arrest him before I commit murder”
In the post game presser Luka clarified that Goga told him: “[He] was going to fuck his whole family.”
Mind you, Luka has small children including a newborn. If true, that’s completely out of line and gross from Bitadze. That’s not trash talk. That would get your jaw rewired even in an NBA game, let alone a street game.
lol
Refs lost control of the game and called a tech on Luka for words back to Goga after he said something about his family in a different language AND LUKA TOLD THE REFS
Trying to get control because the refs lost it with endless bad calls. classic
Reactions can be penalized too. Refs don’t operate on an eye for an eye basis
How about the refs recognize the situation and hand out punishment accordingly? Is that too much too ask?
This will end up rescinded and they’ll look dumb as fuck. Just like with Smart’s tech. Maybe they should just… be way better
Refs cant see everything and you cant expect them to call a tech based on someone’s accusation nevermind when it was said in a different language
If they can’t understand it… then why call a tech at all? Do you see how silly that sounds?
If they cant call tech on reactions because they didnt understand the words…
What if someone said “Nice game, bro” in different language and other one loses their shit, cant they give a tech because they didnt understand the words?
Because they saw Luka respond openly and offensively, whereas they missed Boba who initiated it. Not defending the refs here but they can’t see everything and they happened to miss the antagonizer in this situation.
You don’t need to understand someone’s words to know they’re acting hostile to another player, which is indeed still a penalty
If saying “ima fuck you up” is a tech then we should see a lot more techs dude
Come on. Playing devils advocate just to play devils advocate instead of calling a spade a spade. Luka told the refs Goga was talking out of pocket right before the double tech. Goga keeps talking, Luka responds. The refs didn’t miss it because they were literally told what was going on, they chose to ignore it.
Goga is a bitch for this and the refs let it escalate rather than culling it when they could have
Shit happens and then the refs eventually so “ok ok, cut it out” and that’s them drawing the line there. Any thing after that is then penalized, which happened here.
They could have handled it better and earlier but regardless, they’re eventually going to draw the line and say “it’s over and anything said beyond this point in penalized” which is when Luka spoke up directly in front of them and thus they acted on their word as good refs should
Just gonna agree to disagree because if the refs said “it’s over and anything beyond this is penalized” shouldn’t the antagonizer be the only one punished unless Luka said something absolutely egregious?
Who cares what language it was said in. If refs say it’s done like in your scenario and the main antagonizer continues to talk, why isn’t that where the line is drawn? Especially if he says something in a different language, don’t you think the refs should go “ah yea ok he’s trying to skirt around the line we just drew bc he knows he won’t understand”?
if the refs said “it’s over and anything beyond this is penalized” shouldn’t the antagonizer be the only one punished unless Luka said something absolutely egregious?
Luka specifically asked the refs to end it. If the ref then says “it’s over anything after is going to be penalized” and the very next trip down the court Luka goes out of his way to yell in someone’s face and continue trash talking how are they supposed to do anything except to call a double tech?
It’s like tipping off the cops that your neighbor is speeding, going to drag racing him and then complaining that he pulled you both over.
They can’t just take some guys word for it tho.
Were they supposed to just T up Goga then?
I’m with you. Luka could have been lying for all the refs know.
Why didn’t Luka just respond to him in the same language? Then the refs couldn’t give a T to Luka.
That’s literally then gaining control of the game. Double techs, stop fucking yapping at each other.
Realistically, what should a ref do when a player A claims that player B said something inappropriate in a language none of them understand?
Not to mention player A has a history of complaining about everything to refs.
Luka D riding is unreal
I think people’s reaction to the clip posted earlier already tells you all you need to know.
It’s funny because as a bilingual speaker I know sometimes what I say in my other language sounds way harsher in English when it’s pretty tame/routine/not taken seriously in that other language, so sometimes when I say the same thing in English it’s open to misinterpretation (and I’ve come a long way to be cognizant of that).
But you can tell neither guy was giving their jawing any thought, and both were surprised when teched.
It has been scientifically proven that people are more emotional in their native language as opposed to the second one.
Basically they gave a bunch of people the trolley problem and for the most they didnt do anything, not wanting to directly kill someone to save more people when the problem is presented in their mother tongue. It was the complete oposite in their secondary language, they chose the ulitaritarian option of killing 1 person to save 5.
This means a lot for how we interpret things we hear see and read and it also means that you can try to help yourself calm down during a panic attack by switching to your secondary language.
PTSD symptoms also appear in the language that the trauma occured in, often in mother tongue since thats what most people think in their native language.
Fascinating.
That’s really cool i didn’t know that
Either Luka knows a bit Georgian during his time in Europe or Bitadze is a effort shittalker
They both can speak serbian.
Is Serbian a p common language to know in Georgia?
Not necessarily, but Goga played in Montenegro for a year. I wouldn’t be shocked if he learned a few choice phrases about other players’ mothers while he was there.
but Goga played in Montenegro for a year.
Yeah, and he also played in Serbia for a couple of years before that.
Yeah, that’s my bad, I didn’t think Mega was in Serbia for some reason
He did also play for KK Budućnost in Montenegro, so you’re not necessarily wrong.
He played in Serbia for 3 years.
Yeah when I was learning Spanish I made sure to learn a few insults along with the basic language lol
No, the two languages are very different. Goga played in Serbia for a couple of years, so maybe that’s why.
Serbian
Please NBA rescind it. I need that 10 game win streak
Let him serve it against the Pacers or Nets, won’t matter either way
Fr that’s what I was hoping for, we got Pacers nets and Wiz after the Pistons but he had to get it against the one team we def need his services in lol
At least Cade’s out
trap game
we lost IST when Wemby was out
Cade-less pistons could still beat us even with Luka prolly. Could’ve saved it for game against Pacers nets or wizards lol
wtf is that take?
Young team with aggressive defenders are teams we usually play down too. Just saying I rather have him miss the games against teams that actively want to lose
Exactly interesting they suspend him before the pistons game🤔
These dudes gotta stop pissing off Luka lol
It didn’t really matter tonight in terms of Luka’s individual performance but it’s not usually a smart choice
what he did to buzelis was fucking nasty.
he genuinely couldn’t miss
It’s the tech count they are trying to trigger at this point. he has too many of them and is going to get suspended where he is.
Luka Zidane
Inb4 he gives the Lakers a three-peat
I’m ready for Luka soloing the Thunder by taking 3 games versus them in the WCF, then hitting a clutch left handed shot on Tatum/Brown for the series win versus the C’s in the finals.
What the…?
Can only beat the thunder with role players. Dort would be diving at the opponent star any chance he gets
LeBron will send black SUV to Rich Paul, if Dort just think about it lol
If someone says something about your mom you can’t be given a tech for saying something back that’s weak as hell
He said he was going to take his mom out to a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.
You can’t ignore that.
Mirjam Poterbin is a saint!
But seriously… is there policy on rescinding a tech because of provocation?
That would be goofy.
techs have been rescinded for less. it was objectively a weak tech.
giving a tech for a player saying “fuck you” too loud is lame ash
I appreciate that.
I’m saying so what if A says something about B’s mom. If B said something worthy of a tech after… so what.
Do you think there is no limit to rescinding on a response?
If Goga said something super inflammatory and that can be proven, sure, give him a fine. Or even a suspension.
But rescinding someone’s tech because of fighting words would be stupid.
How would you make an objective standard for that?
Well, we’ll give Luka a pass for saying something that was a 7 because Goga said something that was a 9 first.
Thats nuts.
Luka may well have been baited. If he takes the bait, that’s weak sauce.
So you agree there are levels to it? Good then you can agree that part of rescinding is looking at each case to decide. I think it’s really easy to go “he told Luka he was gonna fuck his family? Yeah you can’t talk about someone’s family”. Rating things is crazy this isn’t difficult.
Of course there are levels to provocation. It would be impossible to make good, consistent policy on this.
It’s a workplace.
A allegedly tells B he will fuck his family.
B then says something inappropriate.
HR plans to punish B.
B says I was provoked.
A says nope. I didn’t say that.
Your plan is to say no punishment for B because B says he was provoked.
Thats a terrible plan.
HR? Buddy we’re talking about the NBA there is no HR. It’s really easy to have some sensible off limits shit and then examine case by case. They already have a process for this and you’re acting like it’s impossible lmfao
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No one has said there is a written policy. You write these really long comments out making things up no one is saying and that don’t exist. Calling people names is fucking hilarious too. I feel bad for you, must be a lonely life to call someone a dipshit for pointing out you don’t know things. Sorry about your day buddy!
To add to this, I wouldn’t be surprised if the ref said he would rescind right away as luka just instantly gave a thumbs up.
It’s already happened to Luka before lol.
Techs are too soft these days. KG called Charlie V a cancer patient and did not get a tech.
A cancer to his team and the league*
That’s Fucked up but also so Fucking funny.
No no, he said Charlie was a cancer to his team. /s
Refs gonna have to open up Google Translate
Gotta get the new airpods
interesting bot variation
Not sure I would agree to rescind this tech. So he insulted your family. You insulted him back. Both get a tech. Sounds pretty fair to me.
It’s a weak tech for sure, for both players. I really don’t think “Fuck you up/ fuck your family” as trash talk is a big deal. But that’s also contextual. Maybe the ref thought it’s warranted to both sides given the environment. Judgement call.
Just because your family is insulted doesn’t give you a license. If I were Luka post-game I would just say, “It’s up to the refs but I’ll defend my family’s honor regardless.”
Then there’s always the Duncan route, to look at the player with deadpan face, or simply laugh at his childishness. But then, that take some excellent emotional management not shared by most players, who mostly prefer to lash out.
Btw if tech is to be rescinded it should be to both players.
Especially since the tech wasn’t even for that part. Luka tells on him at the free throw line then gets a tech after he tells on him, so obviously more was said than whatever Luka told on him for.
Magic are such a dirty, bitchy team.
Bilingual king.
if you’re talking about luka, he’s not only bilingual, he speaks 4 languages
He might as well take the technical now. It’s coming anyway
I mean it’s better to have it after pistons, they will be facing a trio of tanking super teams after them. I think Lakers and Luka planned to take the T during or immediately after detroit but Goga ruined the plan for being a literal motherfucker.
Cade is out anyway. They can do it
Refs take offense to the word bitch but players getting their mom called a whore and gonna get fucked by x is totally ok. Ultimate bitch move by refs
Alright, let’s leave the mothers out of this
If Luka didn’t say that Goga was talking about his mom, he probably doesn’t even get a tech.
Whether or not he said anything terrible getting your 16th technical for talking to each other while running down the court is weak
Oh no, somebody said some bad words and they hurt their feelings!
Why would that be rescinded lol
She smells like honey nut cheerios
Stop crying
Just so I get this straight: If something is said and you escalate it you don’t get a tech?
This team wants to win a championship?
I know they’re trying to game the system and get a tech rescinded, but man lol
This is just silly now. I’m a Luka fan, hell I spent years saying I wanted both Jays traded for Luka, but these are common swears that in English would just translate to “I’ll fuck you up now”
The first time someone said “I’ll fuck your mother” in Serbian was when I was 13 and playing for Partizan’s youth team against some random Belgrade team. It’s not even shocking, you just think “oh these guys are serious”
Nobody gets upset from these. Nobody. Luka’s just scapegoating in the most embarrassing of ways.
These players are soft if they can’t keep their mouth shut when someone is taking a little shit. Luka included. The ref told them both to shut up, and Luka decided to keep squawking and got a tech for it.
Bros been doing it since he got in the league and now its suddenly a problem?
Wouldnt it make sense to just take it so that you dont have to worry about the suspension during playoffs?
Luka’s mom has got it going on
If Luka didn’t cry every game this would probably be an easy decision.
But when all you do is bitch why believe him now? Or Care?
I love Luka, but he needs to keep his fucking mouth shut. It’s pathetic. Children play with less angst.
That’s such a childish excuse.
Every fucking day it’s a lakers thread. Fuck the Lakers
it’s so easy to just scroll past posts you’re not interested in, so I have to imagine you have a humiliation fetish or something dumber since you take time to comment crybaby shit like this
You get shown the Lakers threads because you interact with them.
Soft ass league.
Dude is in a custody battle. He’s hearing worse shit than that.
multi multi millionaire nba superstar pulling a “my mommy” card
If it happens to Wemby I guess you’ll have a different opinion. These fuckers are human beings too, usually family is the line you dont want to cross.
Not sure how having millions relates to this but ok.
Reddick is a bum.