Just a random little fun fact.

Rudy Gobert passed Sam Mitchell for 5th on the all-time WS leaderboard for the Minnesota Timberwolves, behind KG, KAT, Kevin Love and Wally Szczerbiak. He is also 3rd on the all-time WS list for the Utah Jazz behind Karl Malone and John Stockton.

The rest of the list:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 2nd all-time for the Bucks behind Giannis, 3rd all-time for the Lakers behind Kobe and Magic.

LeBron James, 1st all-time for the Cavs, 2nd all-time for Heat behind Wade.

Chris Paul, 1st all-time for the Pelicans and Clippers.

’* Julius Erving is also here if the ABA counts, which it usually doesn’t for NBA records. He is 2nd all-time for the Sixers, and 3rd all-time for the Nets including ABA.

source : basketball reference https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/

nba2k11er | Warriors

120 | 7 hours ago

Gobert must have the highest production/aura ratio ever.

TwoLegitShiznit

35 | 7 hours ago

Who’s got the highest aura to production ratio

nba2k11er | Warriors

74 | 7 hours ago

Jamal Crawford?

TwoLegitShiznit

24 | 7 hours ago

Solid. I was thinking Rafer Alston

Playful_League_4070

13 | 6 hours ago

I loved Skip to my Lou man

dragonrider5555 | Celtics

2 | 6 hours ago

Lol people were hyped when he got traded to us in like 2004. I remember watching and he never did anything

AND ONE MIXTAPE SOM!!

Playful_League_4070

2 | 6 hours ago

He had a nice little run on the Rockets and Magic iirc that’s about it. I remember him being solid tho

dragonrider5555 | Celtics

2 | 6 hours ago

Not wit us

tagen | Spurs

1 | 3 hours ago

yeah i liked him on the rockets plus they gave him insane handling skills in nba 2k (although it may have been nba live back then, idk which version i was playing then)

Middle-Welder3931

1 | 39 minutes ago

There are some Magic fans who will argue that starting Jameer Nelson, who had just returned from injury, over Skip in the 2009 Finals cost the Magic the title.

Krillin113 | 76ers

5 | 6 hours ago

Lou will?

Jacern | Lakers

2 | 4 hours ago

J- crossover mentioned

Herbert-Gerbert | Timberwolves

14 | 6 hours ago

Kyle Kuzma?

YaPhetsEz

17 | 6 hours ago

This might be the answer simply because he has zero production

professional_hater06 | Kings

5 | 6 hours ago

Can’t divide by zero though

drunz | Bulls

12 | 5 hours ago

Brian Scalabrine, barely averaged 3 minutes yet everyone knows the white mamba and everyone knows his “I’m closer to LeBron than you are to me” quote

__sonder__ | Supersonics

3 | 3 hours ago

Disagree. If he had aura, no one wouldve questioned whether a random guy could beat him at basketball.

Someone with aura would never have to give that quote because it would already be obvious to everyone without him having to say it.

FartrelCluggins | BOS

7 | 6 hours ago

What about one of those old mixtape kids that never made it like Seventh Woods

Kakute | Wizards

5 | 6 hours ago

I’d say AI but it depends on production

NSFWPolitely | Heat

2 | 6 hours ago

Reggie Evans.

probs_notme | Cavaliers

2 | 2 hours ago

God Shammgod

isasweetpotato | Knicks

1 | 5 hours ago

Allonzo Trier

CMYGQZ | Grizzlies

1 | 2 hours ago

Boban

MrFishAndLoaves | Pelicans

-4 | 6 hours ago

Austin Reaves

Snapphane88 | Finland

2 | 4 hours ago

Karl Malone would be the goat imo.

EsotericPotato | Timberwolves

65 | 7 hours ago

Rudy will never get the respect he deserves because of his egregious lack of offensive skills, but he’s a hall of famer and one of the best defensive players to ever play. His peers look at him at see a player with no bag on track to be one of the highest earning NBA players ever, but it’s well deserved.

There aren’t many guys in the league who can raise his team’s floor the way that Rudy can, he’s basically a walking top 10 defense on his own. I can’t even imagine how different the last 3-4 seasons would be if the Wolves didn’t have Rudy,

WolvesBack21

21 | 7 hours ago

People who actually watch the games know how important he is. He’s a terrific player and our defense blows when he’s out.

HikmetLeGuin

21 | 6 hours ago

And it’s really unfair, because Ben Wallace is almost universally admired for his defensive greatness, despite not being much of an offensive player.

I guess it’s because of ring culture. Big Ben won one, and Rudy hasn’t. But championships are a team accomplishment, not simply an individual achievement. So again, it’s not very fair.

xXEliteEater500Xx

24 | 6 hours ago

If Big Ben was playing today, I have no doubt that the discourse around him would be similar to Gobert.

DukeOfStuff_ | Timberwolves

17 | 6 hours ago

If Rudy Gobert played pre internet people would love him

pokexchespin | BOS

2 | 41 minutes ago

it’d be even worse. across his 4 all star seasons he averaged 89 ts+. imagine the discourse around rudy with caris levert level efficiency

HealthyCheesecake643 | Celtics

1 | 34 minutes ago

Yeah at least Rudy can skate by on catching lobs and finishing easy plays. Wallace was smaller and worse at finishing in a league with more packed paints.

HealthyCheesecake643 | Celtics

2 | 33 minutes ago

Big Ben might be able to skate by on aura alone, super fucking jacked with a bigass afro he just looks cooler than Gobert.

mysterioso7 | Warriors

2 | 4 hours ago

I think a lot of it was when he signed that big contract too. Maybe players were looking at him thinking “why is this guy who can barely dribble and can’t shoot getting more money than me”.

ConsumptionofClocks

3 | 5 hours ago

I don’t think it’s entirely his offense. Sure, it helps, but Ben Wallace was also horrible on offense and is also a 4 time DPOY. But you never hear anyone disrespect Big Ben.

YpsitheFlintsider

5 | 5 hours ago

He also looked cooler

FoFoAndFo | 76ers

-13 | 6 hours ago

I think he’s a level or two below other all-time great defenders like Hakeem, Duncan, Draymond, Dwight or Dikembe. It seems like during a playoff series half the time the opposition figures him out and he becomes less effective if not a full on liability. He’s such a one trick pony on both ends, teams guard him with wings and dare him to post up (he can’t) and defend in space on the other end (not his strength).

All-time great regular season defender, exceptional role player for 82 games, merely good in the ‘yoffs.

_Wash | Timberwolves

10 | 6 hours ago

Rudy is not a one trick pony on defense and he can definitely defend in space.

I think it’s funny that you’ll bring up Mutumbo who was worse in space than Gobert and at best equivalent around the rim as someone who’s tiers above him.

FoFoAndFo | 76ers

-8 | 5 hours ago

While it’s true that Dikembe was just as bad defending the perimeter It didn’t matter that Dikembe couldn’t defend in space. Teams weren’t switching on defense or matchup hunting on offense and nobody had weaponized the three to the extent every team has now.

It’s not exactly his fault the game changed but Gobert didn’t hold up nearly as well as anyone I mentioned.

waveshineoosupsmash

29 | 7 hours ago

Just wait until Rudy joins the Las Vegas Bookies and becomes top 5 for 3 different franchises

NotoriousHairline

27 | 6 hours ago

lebron being second for the heat is insane

Several_Hour_347

15 | 6 hours ago

I haven’t looked at the stat, but I don’t get how it’s possible. He was there only 4 years?

Krillin113 | 76ers

20 | 6 hours ago

Heat are a young franchise, they won at a historic rate, they don’t have that many guys who were there for a long time. Shaq was there briefly, Jimmy was there for 3 seasons, Bam has been there longish but they didn’t win that much for a lot of it, I don’t know enough about the heat pre Wade to speak on that

Piats99 | Spurs

8 | 5 hours ago

Only big name you left out is Alonzo Mourning. They had him in his prime in the 2nd half of the 90’s but the team wasn’t ready to win, so he couldn’t accumulate much win shares.

He came back older when Wade lead them to glory, but by then his role was sidekick to Shaq.

And Gary Payton was there just for a couple of season before retiring.

Several_Hour_347

5 | 4 hours ago

Jimmy saga was only 3 seasons? It felt so much longer

Krillin113 | 76ers

9 | 4 hours ago

I think i miscounted and it was 5. Still not crazy long

Veserius | NBA

2 | an hour ago

Led the league in winshares ³⁄₄ years and was second to KD’s mvp year in the other season.

fragile-foot86

10 | 7 hours ago

Rudys impact is surprisingly broad. I know people hate him and i know hes not great as a scorer but he impacts the game more than 90% of NBA players just off his size and how he utilizes it.

prfrnir

9 | 6 hours ago

Win shares is a funky stat. DeMar DeRozan has more career win shares than Russell Westbrook even though Westbrook has nearly 2x the VORP.

DeadNazis247365

7 | 6 hours ago

I feel like win share can maybe be a fluke on one team. But probably not two different teams with long term play on each. Idk.

nex_eden

1 | 2 hours ago

it loves big men who get a lot of rebounds and exclusively shoot high percentage shots. zubac and jarrett allen finished 3rd and 4th in that stat last season; gobert has the highest ts% of all time because his shot diet is so limited/specific.

DukeOfStuff_ | Timberwolves

5 | 6 hours ago

Tbf Rudy being top 5 in win shares for the Jazz and Timberwolves isn’t egregious at all. He’s at least top 10 for both teams.

HealthyCheesecake643 | Celtics

1 | 19 minutes ago

Rudy is very likely top 3 for the Jazz. Your other options are Pistol Pete and Mark Eaton. Pistol Pete only played 5 seasons for the Jazz and while he played exciting basketball my hot take is that he wasn’t very good at leading his team to wins. With modern voting conventions I don’t think Pistol Pete makes the All-NBA teams that he did considering the Jazz had a losing record every year he was there.
Mark Eaton hung his hat on defense and Rudy handily beats him in that. The only edge Eaton has in that he was there for longer.

IDK so much about the Timberwolves but my ranking would be KG, big gap, Edwards, Towns/Gobert. Maybe people would throw in K-Love, or Marbury, but IMO providing DPOY level defense for a few deep playof runs is greater than anything they ever gave.

DukeOfStuff_ | Timberwolves

1 | 17 minutes ago

For the wolves I’d have Gobert top 5

DukeOfStuff_ | Timberwolves

1 | 16 minutes ago

I’d go KG Ant KAT Love Gobert

ImpossibleCategory | Raptors

5 | 7 hours ago

and looks like rudy has a chance to break into wolves top 3 ws by the end of next season if hes still on the team

nowhathappenedwas | NBA

4 | 7 hours ago

if the ABA counts

Rick Barry is top 5 for the Warriors and Squires/Capitols/Oaks.

DukeOfStuff_ | Timberwolves

1 | 6 hours ago

Bring the squires back

dragonrider5555 | Celtics

4 | 6 hours ago

Gobert forever underrated because nobody likes him, his game, or his country

Don’t think he’ll ever be appreciate by the mass audience

HellenicHedge34 | Bucks

2 | 6 hours ago

The inverse of Jokic, people don’t appreciate Gobert or his impact enough

mkk4 | Pistons

1 | 6 hours ago

The ABA does count.

iCE_P0W3R | Thunder

1 | 4 hours ago

aren’t win shares a counting stat? as in, you earn win shares per year? how is LeBron 2nd all-time for the Heat in just 4 seasons?

_chadwell_ | Lakers

1 | an hour ago

He was putting up 14-19 win shares every season and has ⁴⁄₅ highest totals in Heat history.

Combined with them not having any other superstars besides Wade who have stuck around there for very long, he has slightly more than Mourning or Bam.

Bam is on track to pass him next season though.

PaulWilliams12 | Magic

1 | 3 hours ago

Why the ellipsis before Gobert?

NoMoreHoarding69

0 | 4 hours ago

Just a random little useless fun fact of the day, I felt the need to post, but means nothing to anyone and no one cares about

karlchad1 | Knicks

-4 | 4 hours ago

Random AI generated useless non verified fact of the day.

CoulibalyMVP | Wizards

-4 | 7 hours ago

thaddeus stat

The only players in NBA history to be top-5 in Win Shares for 2 franchises: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, LeBron James, Chris Paul and … Rudy Gobert