i mean its hard to talk about basketball if you dont watch any of the games. they have to fill the minutes somehow…

I’ve loved Charles Barkley ever since the 80s but sometimes I think he’s just not really into basketball anymore.

Never heard anyone say “Ohtani’s good.But Nolan Ryan would strike him out” Feels like only in basketball are the legends that damn insecure where they just shit on the young guys. It’s borderline embarrassing

NFL guys have a hell of a lot more of a leg to stand on in terms of the game being harder back in their day too. It’s funny that old NBA guys are the ones primarily making that complaint when the old NFL guys were out there on the field where murder was basically legal back in the day.

Negativity drives engagement and hate sells. It’s not by chance that this is a HUGE basketball sub that is constantly trying to push agendas to denigrate players they don’t like regardless of what’s happening in game 

NFL and nfl media cover and market their sport better in general.

The messenger is funny though

Nick Wright can come across as smarmy or annoying sometimes. But he is capable of cooking up great takes.

IMO, they’re coming down from their announcing prime. Still great from time to time, but the hating has gotten bit stale.

It’s because they’re allowed to act as if they’re the stars of the show rather than a supporting sideshow. They spend so much time talking to and about each other that it become a tough watch if you don’t find any of them interesting

Barkley has been complaining about too many 3’s being shot since the 90s. Guy is just mad he wasn’t a shooter.

Shaq ruined inside the NBA. Anyone who even remotely enjoys his “bits” is the least funny person you know.

Nobody hates the sport of basketball nowadays more than the OG’s who played the game years ago. Yet, it’s the same people getting paid to talk about it on TV.

Shaq and Chuck genuinely don’t know shit about modern NBA basketball. They don’t watch games

Stalin tells Mussolini to stop the violence

The Amazon prime crew is 100 times better

You’re part of the problem Nick.

Nick Wright is definitely getting his takes from Reddit

Stuff like the Inside guys denigrating the product and talking heads constantly clamoring for small market stars to force trades to big markets is awful for the product. Imagine if NFL analysts spent all their time talking about how Josh Allen needs to force his way off the Bills and go to the Cowboys. Small market teams have fans too, but the NBA media treats them like dirt and is constantly trying to manifest small market stars to leave for glitzier cities.

Sadly negativity sells 

I think NBA is more prone to it because it’s more about the individuals than teams. You get a lot of ego-centric and individualistic quotes with NBA players. They have much more freedom and exposure to individual criticism than most NFL players.

I was watching the Texas NC State game yesterday with Chuck on the call and at one point he went on about how “being tall does you no good if you’re shooting threes, you’re giving the advantage to the defense”

I refuse to believe he’s that dumb. He’s a hall-of-fame basketball player and his job is literally to watch basketball. There’s no way he hasn’t figured out (or someone explained to him) by now that tall people are less effected by contests, so people have to close out harder on a tall person to bother their shot, which opens up driving opportunities. Also, if you have a center guarding you, the threat of the outside jump shot forces that center to come out of the paint to guard you, which opens up the paint for everyone else.

Again, there’s no way Chuck doesn’t know that by now. He’s either just incredibly, debilitatingly stubborn, or he’s intentionally riling people up because the networks told him to

Commentators commenting about other commentators… and this is entertainment??? What a world we live in.

If anyone thinks that the guys in the studio actually watch the games, you’re a moron

yes

As if Nick Wright is some bastion of positivity 

How does he not get to vote for awards…

They dont watch regular season games.

I don’t know if I would use a broadcast with John Smoltz as the example of how to be excited about the sport. No one hates modern baseball more than John Smoltz.

It is sad how bad Inside the NBA became. They were once so great. Too bad they didn’t just go out on top when TNT lost the NBA.

I don’t think the issue is that they prefer their era, but their demeanor is just nasty often, even when they banter with each other. Chuck is kind of miserable.

Tbf if I was Shaq, I also think I’d avg 50 in today’s game

Nobody hates basketball more than the people covering it

I tuned that show out long ago. It’s a joke. When the Lakers dominated with Shaq and Kobe every game wasn’t a blowout. Hell Fish had to hit a shot with .3 seconds on the clock. I guess that team was trash?

Nick Wright is on a heater of good takes lately.

They could’ve been replaced but people were acting like they would miss them so much

It all comes down to money. Old timers see how much the youngins are making and can’t help but get salty.

No other sport spends so much time arguing over GOAT lists and eras and shit.

Who gives a shit what Nick Wright thinks?

Also, he’s like 10 years late to this particular party.

such a downfall from those dudes… they used to be great but they’ve turned into bitter old men

It’s good for YouTube compilations but I’m definitely over this show. I don’t see how it’s any different from Stephen a smith

Charles Barkley was good on TV until about 3-4 years ago. Can’t stand watching him now. Inside the NBA is weak now.

For once I agree with Dick

Just referring to the nuggets game they also blow Jamal Murray and Jokic then when people beat them it isn’t impressive haha. I don’t like Shaq or Chuck they aren’t funny it’s not trolling like they are truly upset that some players who they deem “not as good as them” are getting paid more than they did and they’re taking it out on the nba. It’s just embarrassing how 2 guys who have as much as they do can sit up there and talk as much shit as they do.

Doesnt happen very often, but Nick is probably right with this one.

Maybe we should stop handing out broadcasting and analyst jobs to ex players just because they’re ex players…..

I’m not really a believer or anything but I think if there is a god he must have made sports talk shows as a test to see who will squander the gift of life by watching this shit.

But isn’t Nick the same guy who loves on hating OKC

Yep finally being talked about. Best thing for the NBA is for inside the nba crew to be off the air.

So after this im almost certain these mainstream guys are all in here, contributing to some of the slop content but mostly taking big talking points out of this sub directly and copy pasting irl, I can think of atleast 3 other times

And I wish this guy didn’t look like a fuckin Halloween mask come to life, who cares what he says? The inside the nba crew loves basketball they’re just old guys doing a bit, it’s funny if you embrace it

The history of nba discourse and conversations is just disrespecting the generation ahead of you or before you tat it. Old players are plumbers and trash while new players are soft and trash it been like this forever. Nobody respects or care about the previous generation or the future generations.

nick talking like he doesn’t hate the nfl and nba himself is peak irony

This is what Amazon and NBC gets right. This season really soured me on Inside that I just watch the other two network panels

If you dropped current players into 60s era games with 60s era rules, the current players would be completely unplayable unless they adapted to the rulesets.

Any current players game would look way different because the rules limited the player to utilize their athleticism or create contact on the offensive end.

People act like if you drop a guy like Kyrie with insane handles & shooting into the 60s era he would dominate but in reality his game would be severely limited. So would a guy like Shaq or Giannis who utilize power to create advantages on offense. That wasn’t allowed back then & they would just be hurting their team with constant turnovers if they did that.

That’s one of the crazy things about Wilt that a lot of casuals don’t understand. Wilt was by far the strongest player in the league of his era and in my opinion, in league history. He was also insanely athletic, not just athletic for a 7’1 guy but at the very least on par with the top athletes of today’s game.

With all of Wilts ridiculous stats, it’s hard to believe that he could’ve been any better but just imagine if Wilt was allowed to back down his defenders like Shaq, allowed to have 3 steps with the gather step (keep in mind, his stride length is among the longest in league history given his size & speed), able to drive through a defenders chest like Lebron, able to dribble like Giannis with the hand under the ball.

If you watch enough Wilt film you’ll see that he was also very coordinated. He’s one of the few athletes to be in the HOF for 2 of the top 10 most popular sports in the world. If you unleashed Wilt into today’s league with rulesets that are wayyyy more advantageous to him, he would dominate more than he did in his own era.

Nick Wright has been spot on lately. It’s annoying

Some of the NFL TV analysts actually do complain about the modern NFL (rule changes that favor the offense mostly), but they don’t do it on the main TV broadcast or during halftime. They do it in a podcast or sportstalk segment on daytime TV/Radio so that the people tuning in won’t hear that on gameday.

Inside the NBA gained it’s popularity for the guys being able to speak their minds freely with very little filter. But now that they no longer appreciate how the sport has evolved it’s a double edged sword.

Shaq and Barkley should be sponsored by Haterade

the difference is bradshaw and long were winners, barkley is a bitter sore loser

“We won’t clip this and send this out”

gets clipped and sent out anyways

What’s there to be excited about from the game today? Everyone is either chucking contested 3s, flailing to get fouls, or traveling. The officiating has let the game devolve into an unwatchable mess.

It’s odd that of the 4, Chuck seems to watch the most and that’s a low bar already lol. You can’t have a panel with all 4 being pretty ootl.

I will say, Chuck - albeit a clown at times - seems to watch some games and has some informed opinions which I appreciate. Shaq is the complete opposite

What’s more annoying than the Inside the NBA crew is the constant complaining about the Inside the NBA crew. The book on them is out and has been for years. Don’t like it, then don’t watch.

But none of the nfl players today could cut it back then.

Oh, this thread again?

They do a HORRIBLE job selling the product !

This discourse is getting ridiculous old, and nobody watches nick wright…

WE DONE WITH THE 90s

Inside the NBA is great for casual fans but if you want in-depth basketball talk, you’re not going to get it from them. They’re great at the banter between each other but it’s clear they only watch highlights provided by their staff. The chemistry is great between them but the respect to the current players is lacking. What would really turn it around it is….. probably Draymond joining once he retires, adding someone younger to the crew would change things for the better. Honestly I’ve been enjoying the Prime Basketball crew more since they started.

Yeah it is gross. I don’t know why they sell so much negativity toward the game. Why do they not care about growing it?

The NBA regular season has turned mostly pointless. Tanking teams, stars resting, 10 outta 15 teams make the postseason. Just not a lot of intrigue. They will lock in for the playoffs, like most fans.

These rule changes gather step, step through, carrying then the my son is better than most guys on the bench give him a 7.5 million dollar contract and he’s ASS like Jaylen Brown said just makes the league unwatchable at times… every body chucks up threes I see more stretches of just up and down the court and no scoring cause everyone is taking horrible shots… turn on a game and the star player has the night off… ok I’m done I’ll watch when the playoffs start I doubt they will take playoff games off

I prefer the entertainment of the Inside crew over whatever Nick brings.

The guy on the left is the let’s make a deal magician.

Sure Nick , you never have insane takes at all.

The amazon crew is actually so much better.

Huh, I feel that’s exactly what Bradshaw does.

This is just how it’s always been in the nba. Wilt called out MJ saying he wouldn’t be able to hang in his era

Inside NBA is just comedy show, non of them really know basketball or intelligent enough to break down plays and do a technical and tactical analysis, all they do is say some stupid shit and laugh….if you are an NBA fan and you watch this show you will laugh but at the end you’ll be like “I didn’t learn anything seriously interesting”

I love that they actually hating on it. It’s more fun to watch cuz it leads to random stupid conversations 😂 If want some boring analysis of the game there’s plenty of channels for that, even utube ones would suffice.

Like I said, the minute it was announced that Inside the NBA is moving to ESPN, they should’ve just let it go. The “jokes” and the hatred had run their course. Ex players having their own podcast now make these guys somewhat less relevant.

The NBA has by far the worst overall media environment of the major sports in this country. NFL, NHL, MLB all blow it out of the water, isn’t even close.

Nothing gets older faster than Shaq saying “oh I’d average 60 today”, when he could only muster three 50 point games going up against guys like Luc Longley and Raef LaFrentz

Name me a dude in the media who hates a team like Charles hates the lakers. It goes back 2 decades too with Charles

To the point of the WBC broadcast, Jeter kept talking about how the World Series meant more to players than the WBC for those who played in both. So the bitterness does exist to an extent

Do we want everyone to have the same opinions?

Serious question.

I’ve never been a fan of Inside, personally.

I’m sorry, most of the old hands would be run off the floor in today’s game without massive improvements to their outside shooting. Being able to hand-check doesn’t mean you were a better defender either, it just meant you could push someone around one-on-one without consequences. Everything about the modern league is at another level - they have whittled coaching, player development, pick and roll offense and trapping team defense down to a science.

“Can’t watch the modern league” old heads miss their 82-74 final scores and post ups.

Both of these guy’s hairlines are fighting for their lives. It is time, brothers.

That pushback is diabolical

Almost every possession in today’s NBA would either be an offensive foul, travel, or carry in the past. Which other major league has had this extreme amount of reffing changes?

Like if the NFL made it illegal to rush more than 3 and then tried to gaslight everyone into saying that QBs today are more skilled, I doubt Terry Bradshaw would be as positive towards the modern game…

I am probably in the minority here, but I never even watch anything from inside the NBA crew other than highlights that might get posted on here or on instagram.

Inside NBA got stale a long time ago for basketball content. In an interview with Charles Barkley, Charles said they want to have fun, joke around, entertain, and get paid well.

Trust me the nfl guys feel that way they just dont have the say so to say that on air

I can’t stand nick wright he is the worst himself

The basketball analysis content produced by the independent YouTube channels is so much better than what’s put out by the likes Inside the NBA or NBA Today. It’s clear they don’t watch the games. Case in point, the Inside the NBA segment where they ask Shaq or Chuck which team a random player is on. It’s supposed to be funny but to me it just shows how little they care about NBA and the players.

Barkley and Shaq haven’t liked basketball for years and inside the NBA has sucked for just as long. It ain’t nothing new. People are just finally starting to catch on since we have more options now.