ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

152 | 8 hours ago

What is this guy… some kind of scoring leader?!

Shideya- | Thunder

12 | 3 hours ago

Kinda feel bad for him. Jokic has more counting stats while Shai is more efficient so no one has him as MVP, while he is with Giannis/Wemby in the tier behind them but ahead of the next tier, and people overblown his defense just for fun.

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

-10 | 3 hours ago

Yeah idk. I do think Jokic and Shai are both better players than Luka and despite Lakers being higher seed by a game, consensus is that every MVP candidate above him is leading a better team, even my struggling Nuggets who are finally righting the ship (and did beat his Lakers head to head when healthy). Luka seems to have crazy voter fatigue despite never winning an MVP lol. His best chance and best year by far was 2024 and Jokic was all-time goodthat year for sure but partly they gave the MVP to him cause the voters felt they had to make up for how the perception soured really bad on Embiid winning 2023 MVP over Jok.

WhyDoBugsExist | Spurs

1 | an hour ago

Can’t believe dallas traded him away

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

1 | an hour ago

Just rewatched the video of Luka reacting to his tribute video the other day and man. I just can’t imagine what it must’ve been like to be a Dallas fan. If Jokic got traded like that out of nowhere in a terrible deal against his wishes I might be disappointed enough to stop supporting a team in the NBA.

KhanQu3st | Mavericks

113 | 7 hours ago

If he goes his whole career without winning an MVP it’ll be one of the biggest tragedies in NBA history

Parking-Rope2301 | Warriors

23 | 4 hours ago

He should have already had one

cheesecake_face | Nuggets

-4 | 3 hours ago

what year?

FredNot214 | Knicks

7 | 2 hours ago

You know, that’s why you responded

BatmanNoPrep | Lakers

-9 | 3 hours ago

He would have already but has had mediocre team seeding while in dallas. Team record matters. Warriors/Steph fans can sure vouch for that.

kaman23

13 | 3 hours ago

Team record matters until they find an excuse for it not to matter with Luka. It’s always like that.

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

12 | 3 hours ago

Team record matters unless its Jokic

flaming_burrito_ | Wizards

6 | 3 hours ago

A lot of stuff matters unless it’s Jokic apparently. Bad defense. Lower team seeding. Being out of shape. Obviously he’s still on the short list of MVPs because of his absurd stats, but the double standards are real

DentistFun2776 | Nuggets

-3 | 3 hours ago

I mean…

His two most out of shape years since he became an MVP level player are this year and last year - and guess what, he’s not going to win in either

Record was only “bad” in 2022 - and that’s one of the all-time carry jobs in NBA history

And every advanced metric has always said he’s a more valuable defender than Luka

flaming_burrito_ | Wizards

4 | 2 hours ago

I’m just saying, it was a whole big thing last season that Luka needed to get in shape, and people were even still calling him fat when the Lakers went through that slump this season. Now this season, Jokic looks kinda out of shape, and his foot speed has slowed down, but no one is talking about it.

And I didn’t say he had a bad record, but the Nuggets have not been the top seed since their championship.

Jokic’s defense metrics are deceiving imo. I honestly think the only reason he has good defensive stats is because he’s a center and is huge, so he can defend a bit in the paint and block passing lanes, but he can’t actually protect the rim for shit because he can’t jump. Also he gets a lot of rebounds, which inflate his defensive numbers. Luka has to defend the perimeter, which is a lot harder. Also, despite the Lakers having a lot of bad defenders, they still have a better defensive rating than the Nuggets this season, which I think says a lot. His offense is just insanely impactful enough that people don’t mind

DentistFun2776 | Nuggets

0 | an hour ago

Yeah? And he’s won 1 mvp since when they were the 2nd-seed with the same record as the 1-seed

You say nobody’s talking about it? Maybe because he’s not, even in this condition, as out of shape as Luka. Maybe because he’s much older and players naturally get bigger

You can’t just list the reasons he’s more valuable defensively and then say “but excepting those…”

Yeah - the fact that he’s a huge body & an elite rebounder matters

Shideya- | Thunder

-1 | 3 hours ago

Amazing 2024 but needed some more wins for sure. He wins the MVP when he has a top2 seed in the west probably but Shai/Wemby are here to stay at the top of west for some time.

Jonthesinner21 | Hawks

-29 | 5 hours ago

Especially with the lakers pr boost

fantasnick | Knicks

23 | 5 hours ago

It works both ways tbh

Sherane12 | Raptors

17 | 4 hours ago

Lakers won 2 MVPs since Magic. OOKC has won more in like 10 years.

ripkobe3131 | Vancouver Grizzlies

9 | 4 hours ago

The boost doesn’t help win MVPs

Jonthesinner21 | Hawks

-6 | 4 hours ago

Good pr does help with your mvp narrative but you downvote warriors might be too stupid to understand

ActSoggy84 | Lakers

63 | 7 hours ago

Lol the overreactions to Luka’s bad stretch were fun. This is the most physically fit he’s been heading into the postseason since maybe the Bubble and he’s heating up at the perfect time.

He’s not always there when you call, but he’s always on time. Mama, there goes that man!

Xeris

71 | 6 hours ago

His bad stretch was like… 29-7-7 lol.

flaming_burrito_ | Wizards

5 | 2 hours ago

Facts lol. The standards for him are crazy. “Not getting 40 a night? Trash, not a winning player”

Vitex1988 | Thunder

1 | an hour ago

because he’s such a god that that’s considered bad

JobTrunicht

21 | 6 hours ago

For a minute this sub had him OUTSIDE of the top 3 best player in the league discussion.

Not the MVP race, the TOP 3. I legit saw highly upvoted comments with people having SGA/Cade/Jokic/Wemby/Giannis above him. He’s arguably top 3, arguably top 2 and even arguably top 1 (I don’t think he’s top 1 but he has a case)

ArgoMium

-9 | 4 hours ago

He isn’t top 3. Jokic SGA and Giannis are too good for him to break into the top 3.

Parking-Rope2301 | Warriors

10 | 4 hours ago

Nah not Giannis this year… He’s not as good as Luka

PeaceAlien | Warriors Bandwagon

7 | 6 hours ago

No no, keep hating he draws power from it

Shideya- | Thunder

2 | 3 hours ago

So many haters on this sub, not only for Luka but for almost any superstar.

prettymuthafucka | Wizards

-6 | 6 hours ago

Damn that bold section hella corny

ActSoggy84 | Lakers

8 | 4 hours ago

That’s kinda the point if you know who I was imitating…

D1HATER3002

0 | 2 hours ago

Who? It doesn’t even make sense lol

918tb | Thunder

49 | 7 hours ago

Hes been cooking fasho.

Michikusa | NBA

-1 | an hour ago

Cooking and crying like no other fasho fasho

Jaded-Sapphire3546 | Thunder

22 | 8 hours ago

Wow you really showed that anonymous Nuggets fan on the internet.

Luka is a great player and anyone who argues otherwise is being disingenuous. I don’t understand why people feel the need to engage with arguments that are transparently negative for negativity’s sake.

kaman23

-1 | 3 hours ago

He is not only great, he is the best player in the world

outsidehere | Lakers

14 | 7 hours ago

MVP right there

Short-Cardiologist-4 | Thunder

-23 | 7 hours ago

He’d be right there if this was his level all year.

Most books have him 6th currently lol

outsidehere | Lakers

17 | 7 hours ago

I’m promoting prop@ganda here

pokerawz | Lakers

1 | 4 hours ago

Well take a propaganda at deez nuts

NoHacksJustTacos

13 | 7 hours ago

uhh he’s averaging 32.⁹⁄₇.⁹⁄₈.⁵⁄₁.5/.5 and 48/37/78 62% TS for the season buddy. Hes having the best individual season out of everyone, sadly MVP is a team award.

Short-Cardiologist-4 | Thunder

-21 | 6 hours ago

Bud, he’s losing every efficiency and advanced stat known to man and even losing the counting stat battle to Jokic.

By most measures he’s the 4th best player in the league at best rn.

HalCourteney

13 | 6 hours ago

hahahaha

EdgiestOW

11 | 6 hours ago

What being educated in Oklahoma does to a mf

NoHacksJustTacos

9 | 6 hours ago

By most measures except the most obvious ones? You fucking nerds are annoying. Watch a Luka game, he’s generational.

calmrain | Lakers

2 | 3 hours ago

Smartest Oklahoman btw 🤡 🫏

Parking-Rope2301 | Warriors

3 | 4 hours ago

Bro he should be at minimum no. 2 in the ladder… this Lakers roster should be nowhere near the 3 seed, and he took them there. I still think Shai should win it, but Luka shouldn’t be out of the top 2.

Traditional_Emu3598

19 | 6 hours ago

I’ll never forgive the nonstop 2025 Luka slander in a year he was traded out of the blue from his home to a bad roster, wasn’t able to see his kids, and going through a divorce

People really chose to believe the overblown or flat out dumb national narratives over 6 years of evidence showing greatness. Only remembering the last thing they saw. Even his “bad” year was 31-7-7 and playoffs.

Top 4 and always was. Should be higher in the MVP ladder as well. Higher seed than Ant and Jokic (who get away with some of the flaws Luka has) and an efficient 33-8-8 with a worse roster

Complaining is an issue but don’t think it impacts the game so much as some. Defense and weight were issues at time but overblown, especially given his offensive load because of bad rosters. People reacting to a temporary bad shooting %’s to start, calling him a ball hog, or saying he can’t win big is just utterly ridiculous and shouldn’t have been entertained given his offensive greatness and bad rosters in comparison to Shai, etc and his playoff success

barath_s | Lakers

0 | an hour ago

through a divorce

Breakup. With kids. He wasn’t/isn’t married

itsme32

7 | 4 hours ago

Also tied for 7th for charges taken.

Rank3r | Slovenia

7 | 4 hours ago

Also in top 20 steals.

cl353 | Heat

3 | 7 hours ago

hm less than 50% from the floor? not impressed

/s

Salty_Examination486

3 | 5 hours ago

His going crazy in 2026 ngl if he started the season like this shooting wise he prob gets more love for mvp

iCE_P0W3R | Thunder

2 | 5 hours ago

Like a week ago I said the Lakers weren’t a threat. Now I’m holding my breath. Do I think they’ll be champions? No, but I don’t want to play this version of Luka.

Kindly_Ad995

1 | 4 hours ago

It’s strange because I feel like they’re better than last year but also still have the same flaws. Luka right now is way better than he was a year ago but Bron is worse. No expectations either way really but Pelinka needs to hurry his ass up and make some real changes this summer

iCE_P0W3R | Thunder

1 | 4 hours ago

This is the first year where I’d say LeBron doesn’t look elite. Maybe you try to negotiate him leaving or something and try to score some depth with the cap space he took up. You’d need another center though, cuz idk if Hayes is a good long term option to maximize your chances of getting Luka and everyone a ring.

ynomeye | Warriors

-6 | 4 hours ago

Lakers beat up another dogshit team and you’re worried?

iCE_P0W3R | Thunder

4 | 4 hours ago

I don’t wanna face anyone who can score 50 at the drop of a hat

ynomeye | Warriors

-1 | 4 hours ago

If you’re not actively tanking and have a center better than Abominayton, you’re fine

Psychological_Wave_5

2 | 4 hours ago

The 15th Place MVP, i guess the number one is way above his numbers

Yoshinobu_YamaGOATo

2 | an hour ago

But I’ve been told by Celtics fans that Jaylen Brown is a better player ..

sgandylau | Trail Blazers

1 | an hour ago

Luka is no doubt in the MVP race, a generational talent and top 5 NBA player atm.

But can we stop with these ridiculous “advanced” stats??? whats 40+ 40+ points and 70% true shooting kinda start is this. if u tried hard enough, u could literally come up with a selective stat line that only that player has

modnar_resu_tidder

-1 | 4 hours ago

Greats stats to lose in the first round!

AsianEleven101

-21 | 7 hours ago

What does it matter though ? He’s a cone on defense.

Right ? You can score a 100 points triple double but you’re still a cone on defense, right ? Right ???

LardHop | Lakers

11 | 7 hours ago

Lakers defense so ass he is probably like the 3rd-4th best defender.

Gold4Lokos4Breakfast

6 | 4 hours ago

People act like he’s this generationally bad defender and he actually isn’t. He just isn’t great

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

-24 | 8 hours ago

He has 5 games of 40+ points and 70+% true shooting during this stretch. No other player has more than 2.

Let’s not be like Bam fans.

Counting stats don’t really mean all that much.

Focus on the impact stats. The impact stats case is also much more straight forward - he’s #3 in EPM Wins behind SGA and Jokic. Source

SeaMoney4312 | Rockets

15 | 7 hours ago

I’m confused, 83 points don’t really mean that much?

YaPhetsEz

4 | 7 hours ago

Yeah i could drop 83 but it would be too much of a hassle

JoeBiden2020FTW | Lakers

-1 | 6 hours ago

Yeah, I wouldn’t use “peak points in a game” to really evaluate a player’s offensive impact.

By that metric, Bam would be the #1 scorer in the NBA.

To me, Bam is more like the the #30-50 best player in the NBA from the standpoint of improving a team’s offense. And that’s around where impact metrics would have him.

Luka Doncic in calendar year 2026: 32.3⁄8.3⁄7.7 on 48.9% from the field, 40.4% from three (on 10 attempts per game), 62.6% true shooting. He has 5 games of 40+ 40+ points and 70+% true shooting during this stretch. No other player has more than 2.

Luka Doncic in calendar year 2026: 32.³⁄₈.³⁄₇.7 on 48.9% from the field, 40.4% from three (on 10 attempts per game), 62.6% true shooting. He has 5 games of 40+ 40+ points and 70+% true shooting during this stretch. No other player has more than 2.