Yea teams need to start making a mockery of blatantly tanking teams.

Want to sit your starters? Fine we’re going to embarrass your franchise and your fans and smile while we do it.

Screw it lets keep ours in and see Trae Young break the assist record.

I think you are forgetting which side of this equation Trae is on

I promise you the Wizards front office would rather lose and Bam score 83 than win. The GM could not care less how many points Bam scores.

If teams aren’t already embarrassed by being losers, they aren’t going to be embarrassed into not being losers by getting embarrassed.

Yeah… any franchise that is actually serious about contending ain’t playing their starters 40 minutes against tanking teams just to “send a message” lol.

Do you really think San Antonio or OKC fans would care one bit today if Bam had scored his 83 points against them a few years back when they were tanking? I don’t see OKC fans apologizing for Dort’s dirty play either as long as it helps them keep winning. I similarly don’t care one bit if the Pacers allow a 100 point scorer in every one of their remaining games this season if we can add a top 3 pick to the Hali-Siakam core for the next 3-4 years.

For better or worse the culture of sports has shifted to chasing rings with nothing else really mattering.

They do not care boss

I wouldn’t risk an injury to my star player, or any starter just to punish tanking teams. That should be Adam Silver’s job.

Agree once fans see every single record in your home arena is owned by opposing players losing for lottery picks won’t be as fun.

Jazz pulled their starters in the 4th against the Heat and the Heat still lost. Humiliating for them, right?

You really think the Wizards FO gives a fuck about last night’s outcome?

All it will take is your star player tearing his ACL while stat padding up 30 to put and end to this stupidity.

“Pacers are resting Siakam with a left pinky contusion”? Well Luka is resting 90 points on your ass.

Oh fuck off lol. Siakam is averaging his most minutes since joining the Pacers and has only missed like 10 games in the process.

Tanking is about incentives, in the same way good teams have no incentive to do this lol

Eh, good teams want to get reps for their bench players and they don’t want to risk injury to their starters.

At the end of the day you win, you get paid. You tank, you also get paid. Bros really couldn’t give a shit

Honestly yes. They’re disrespecting the game, the league, and the fans. They deserve no respect. Go do a career high on these bums and talk shit on them

I frankly don’t give a shit if we get humiliated. I want that pick.

Thunder lost by 73. I’ll take that for the stacked team they have now

Agreed. If you came to lose, why should i respect that? I came to play professional level basketball. It’s your job to stop me, not my job to hold back. Good luck.

Why are you assuming they’ll give a shit?

The obssession with Jazz is quite high in this subreddit despite them going 2-3 in their last 5 games, same as Denver, even better than the GSW 1-4.

There are many obvious teams with worse records overall but sure hate the Jazz for not wanting to give OKC more picks.

Except every time the Jazz rest their starters in the 4th, they win. Embarrassment is going the wrong way.

Relegation

Salary floor plus tv money portioned out based on record

Let’s beat a team who unabashedly commits to losing, while sacrificing the health and stamina of our players unnecessarily, for stat records that will then be scrutinized because they happened against tanking teams…

Sounds great until some star player gets hurt doing it

Yeah thatll show em. Stop tanking by helping them out!

I wish refs get lenient on taunts too. For maximum humiliation.

Premiere league style promotion-demotion. Last team from each conference gets demoted. Then drafts are distributed on remaining teams.

I’m in a bit of awe.

Out of all the dumbass ways to “fix” tanking I’ve seen, yours might actually top that list.

If Luka had 90 points vs the Pacers, LA would win. So, Indy would lose. If they are tanking, then a loss helps that.

Hell, why would the Pacers and their local media partners not want that?

It would drive up interest for at least a couple games.

“Is that team really THAT bad???”

I actually love this. Fuck it, start shaming the owner and GMs by name mid-blowout. 

I prefer the idea of the teams that win the playins get the top 4 picks based on record worst team in the league can’t get better than 5th overall suddenly everyone is actually trying to win.

I don’t think they actually care but go off.

Friendly reminder that the game lost by the biggest margin of all time in the league had OKC as the losing team when they were tanking PURPOSEDLY to construct this championship-winning window they are enjoying now (many of the players that now are champions were on the court that day) and the fans are still defending that to this day, so not even the biggest humilliation is enough.

In the deep roots of the flawed forced parity system that rules the league it´s sadly proven that TANKING WORKS and it has been that way for so long that fans even embrace that openly, preferring to completely forget about their teams for a couple of years and just get back to root for them when they can be champions instead of being happy to compete evey year even if it´s just in a play in game or a 1st round exit on playoffs.

As long as tanking isn´t fully eliminated we will keep having these problems, there is no other way around it

While it is pretty sucky, it’s no different on the rap sheet, just another L. And that means a better chance for a draft pick🤷🏾‍♂️

This crusade against tanking from the fans is so stupid. Take it from a Bulls fan, it’s no fun watching a team refuse to blow it up when they clearly aren’t contenders.

OKC lost by a historic amount and the Pistons couldn’t buy a win a couple years ago and neither regret a thing

Wizards : “Now the night of the game you might feel a slight sting. That’s pride fucking with you. Fuck pride. It only hurts, it never helps. Fight through that shit because a year from now when you’re kicking it at the Draft, you’re gonna say Marsellus Wallace was right.”

Idk I thought it was funny

yeah, let’s unnecessarily risk injury to our best players

They don’t care. They know that no one is going to give a shit when the ping pong balls drop and they get AJ Dybantsa. If anything, it will make more people buy tickets to get them to see what Bam did

this already happens though? Us bitching about tanking and putting a spotlight on these teams is that humiliation, this would just translate it into game….. Which already is the case

Lessen their potential % odds of the pick for each violation.

How about your draft pick is decided by a different team? So winners of the finals swap draft picks for next year, and so on and so forth down the line. Your draft order is never under your control

I like it

That’s just threatening them with a good time.

Please, just use the PWHL system. This isn’t hard.

humiliate bad teams

They don’t care. If you tell a tank team GM that he has a 60% chance of winning the lottery if he sucks 100 dicks a night for 82 nights he will do it.

The wizards are set back at least by 5 years by this, I guarantee they will be bad another 5 years

You’re basically describing always trying hard, which is how sports should be played

I think we need to make a distinction between teams that could win some games if they tried and teams that can’t win even with trying. The Wizards are horrible. The Pacers lost their center and a top ten player. Sacramento? Could they beat Duke? Bad teams aren’t tanking they are just losing.

Just relegate gutter orgs to G-league

One step further give opposing teams flags they can wave that say tanking in them … have the nba out side the arena with people giving away flags … cuz obviously the home owner of the tanking team won’t allow it …

This is so funny because it was what, a month ago, that the Jazz pulled their starters in the 4th and BAM ADEBAYO AND THE HEAT LOST TO THEM. The major headline was from Bam at the press conference saying “we have to find a way to beat teams who are trying to lose”.

This assumes that the tanking franchises actually have any sense of shame but they don’t

Or use points for the table: 3 for game winner, 1for loser only if they score beyond 100 points.

On current system, losing 150-0 or 150-149 does the same for the table

And if Adam Silver institutes a league-wide incentive to break records, then maybe some players may be inclined to go for some of them in-game. They may put in more effort, make the game more exciting

This would work if the same Heat team didn’t lose to the Jazz after the Jazz pulled their starters

Nah. I just think they need to redo the standing for the lottery. They should base it off the past two or three seasons rather than one. No team is going to want to be in the bottom for 3 years straight. Maybe if they got a top 5 pick or something, they can’t have another top 5 pick for another 3 years.

Or maybe do something so superstars can’t stack up on the same handful of teams. Do something so small market teams actually have a chance to sign a superstar. The goal is to make the league more competitive all around, isn’t it? Why are we so focused on making the Lakers the best team in the NBA? That’s not how it should be.

Fuck it. Just send them to the g-league and bring up their g-league team. At least those guys will play hard.

Players on the court are not the ones tanking. It feels unfair that they get to be humiliated

Fwiw, the Thunder have the record for biggest loss ever at 73 points to the Grizzlies. Not sure that impacted us too much

Start relegating the bottom teams from the NBA to the G League and promote the top teams from the G League to the NBA every year. Or make it a rule to sell 51% of ownership to the fan base so they can’t get screwed by ownership anymore.

or you could just be us and lose to tanking teams

I don’t think that would change literally anything, except expose teams to their stars getting hurt.

Oh no! Please don’t pull my pants down and spank my boy bottom🥵 oh no guess you better beat us so badly that there is no chance for us to win.

The goal is to win a ring for teams not tanking, or at least be good in the playoffs, risking unnecessary injury to key players because you want them to go 100 percent in games that are already won is how you end up with teams like the pacers where they are clearly talented but a key injury leaves them tanking, there’s plenty of cases of key players getting injured close to the playoffs

These guys are massively multi millionaires.

They don’t care.

Warriors fan here. Just schedule tankers against us and we’ll manage to lose against them.

Give it a week and I think you guys will realize again that it’s not easy to put up 60+ points in an nba game. Even against the shittiest teams.

“Oh but if my guy got 43 shots and 43 free throws???” It’s not easy to take 43 shots and draw 43 free throws. Even against the shittiest teams.

Just like the NBA Cup, before the season is over, a mini tournament playing for the draft order, but it’s mandatory for all players, unless it’s doctor approved

This is truly the way, but the problem is it’s Mutually Assured Destruction. Imagine clowning a franchise for the first half of the season and then you get cap dumped there at the deadline. Nobody’s ready to to really be mean and open that box

Just ready for Hali to terrorize everyone again come this fall

yeah now you’re just embarrassing the sport. what a joke of a league

Still counts as a loss, whoever scores the points doesn’t matter. And I don’t think having that many points scored on your team is gonna be so shameful that it would stop a team from tanking which requires you to not give a crap about what others think.

Only the winning team gets paid

SOLVED

The wizards about to lose every game by 50

Lowkey might be onto something ngl

The wizards wanna start playing d when bams at 81 points had me crying lmaooo

Y’know what, a tournament that runs alongside the playoffs with the 14 lottery teams with the winner getting the #1 would be pretty fun, not sure how much the players would care though or how you handle traded picks

100%

What’s the point of having teams like the Wizards and Kings pulling players, playing amateur basketball in a pro league, if you don’t smurf against them? At that point you’re just playing a game for what? Why even have a game that no one wants to see?

Ticket sales for meaningless games against bad teams will go from the cheapest tickets to the most expensive because you know you’re going to see something crazy.

Imagine if Luka went for the record every time he played the Pelicans. You wouldn’t want to see that?

I’m all for this. Score a bunch of 80+ points on these tankers this season! lol

We’ve seen how tanking ends. Fans stop showing up and Silver replaces the GM