The Inside the NBA Crew Had Shaq Shoot Threes After the Cavs Went 2-22 from Deep in the 1st Half vs. Boston
is that 3 point line legit?
Yes. Just looks smaller because of the studio. Hoosiersmeasuringtape.png
also looks small because the camera is only a few feet high and shaq is 7 foot 300
“300”
Big doubt.
Yeah he’s like 500 now lmao
Nah hes slimmed down in recent years just like chuck.
Shaquille O’Zempic
Slimmed down to 280lb
/R/brandnewsentence
You don’t get to brandnewsentence your own posts sir, I’m turning you in to the meme police.
Gonna tell my gf this about my small apartment
It actually doesn’t look smaller in this shot though when it goes to Kenny passing it back out. The height and distance from the basket makes it clear this is regulation, especially with chairs under for scale.
I work on the show. The whole setup is legit, measured for real when we built the studio out.
Dream job
Can’t disagree with you there. Working on shows like Inside, or NHL with Biz and the gang, or chilling with Lefkoe, Mash and J Rose while we shoot college basketball, it’s been pretty fun!
Yall hiring?
Me too pls
If it pays enough
Most sports jobs pay like shit until you get a gig in front of the camera or become an agent.
Your username wouldn’t happen to be a reference to the video game Montezuma’s revenge would it?
Coincidentally yes, but mainly the real life sickness Montezuma’s Revenge and an old Pokemon Webcomic called Pokemon X
Then my followup question would be if you first heard about that game from AVGN.
Top 5 things that never happened
it is true though. I’m a full-time camera operator for TNT Sports. Inside is one of the shows I work on; we’re getting ready for March Madness right now and we’re going to shoot the whip-around coverage show, Fast Break, in the same studio Inside shoots in.
As a production person myself it’s kind of funny that people understand theres an entire team of people behind every production and we use the internet lol.
Nothing ever happens
No, I can confirm. I am Shaq and I remember when he built out the studio.
It looks like it since it the three point arc is well above the free throw arc
Ok. Is the free throw arc legit?
It looks like it since its well below the three point arc
Story checks out
Well it’s a horizontal line. Or maybe it’s vertical.
Looks like a college line.
Known 3 pt shooter shaq
The black Steph Curry
Curry has bricked over 5,700 3s. Shaq? Only 21. Really makes you think
That’s not fair. At least some of those were air balls.
Black Steph Curry
Tee hee. ;)
steph curry is black
His 3 point compilation goes hard.
Lmao 5 second compilation
Spoiler alert
way better than Gobert’s
Rudy is gonna get one this year, I feel it in my bones
Hes shot a few recently and they honestly dont look that bad
Here’s a longer one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfexBnIe39E but yeah the 5sec one is his only 3pt make in 19 NBA seasons
r/thatsthejoke
youre a perceptive one arent ya
Somewhere Ben Simmons isn’t giving a shit playing COD and fucking only fans models
Every time the Cavs play the Celtics, it just comes down to who shoots 3’s better.
TBF that’s the majority of games now.
TIL making more shots than your opponent correlates to winning
Team that won the NBA Championship last year shot 33% btw
the best shot in the NBA is the free throw
The best shot is the one Adam Silver gives you
Right? lol. The game is so boring now. Whoever gets the ref’s whistle and hits their jacked up 3s wins.
Teams have absolutely optimized a lot of the fun out of the game. You can’t blame them since they are trying to win, but the league really needs to do something.
I disagree.
It’s very fun watching teams run screens and multiple sets in order to get open. Also, no team gets open 3’s the same way. The way the Hornets get their 3’s is much different from the way Detroit get their 3’s.
It’s much faster paced compared to the games I’ve seen from the past. I tried watching T Mac’s 60 point game and it was really grating to watch. Just pure iso ball with no offensive complexity mixed with a bit of highlights
Fair enough, might be a difference in generations. I’ve lost a lot of interest in modern NBA for many reasons, one being a barrage of 3s isn’t that fun to watch to me. I much prefer the game from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s.
the shot is the last part of the possession. theres still the rest of the possession to enjoy. it is a lot more complex now. even if you hated them you cant say the warriors in the 2010s werent playing a very polished version of the game
That’s fair. It makes sense that people would naturally gravitate to what they grew up with
I don’t disagree that early 2000s basketball was frequently ugly, but there are more choices than a 3-point shooting contest and ISO ball.
Any recommendations?
You’re not fooling anyone, Doug Christie! 😂
My issue is teams don’t know when their 3s aren’t working.
When jumpers used to mean midrangers, coaches will be right on your ass if you miss too many. But now it doesn’t matter if you keep bricking 3s. Mathematically it’s a good shot, so it doesn’t matter if you keep settling for that shot over and over and over.
Running screens to get people open isn’t some modern relevation lol
Never stated it was. It’s just more evolved.
The ways screens are set in the Bulls era is different from the way screens are set today. There’s always movement (everyone is moving)and if you blink, you might miss the little things.
Oh of course. Couldn’t possibly blink and miss the average 4 bricking a 3
What’s youre missing is that when the league took more 2s, good offense usually resulted in a made basket because they were higher percentage shots. Now if you get a wide open 3, they still miss a lot. So its not as satisfying. A team can miss 3 wide open 3s and the other team can make 3 openish 3s in 6 possesions (openish like a 3pt shot most teams can get in any possesion 95% of the time) and you just feel like you’re watching madness.
The game is difficult and complex no doubt, but I still hate how many actions are run for the primary purpose of getting an open 3. The math is too overwhelming in the favor of 3s based on the average role player’s 3PT% now. They should move the line back and the game will be fast paced and diverse like you said but even more so
It’s fun to watch every team run screens and jack up 3s?
Honestly it is surprising it took so long. Having one shot worth 50% more than the rest is just asking for this.
I guess they didn’t realize how good people could get at shooting from that distance when they created the 3 point line.
It took so long because coaches and executives were former basketball players who weren’t willing to listen to “nerds” who could do basic math on expected outcomes. In their mind 35% from 3 < 45% from 2 because it looked worse on the box score.
Redditors need to be studied
I mean it did save the game for 25 years or so. Pre 3-point, basketball was becoming a slog. They wanted to do something to encourage teams to spread it out more, and the three point line was born. People were just good enough at them to risk it sometimes, which drew defenders out. Plus it gave teams a chance when they were down by 3 with the last shot.
It has only been recently since we have guys who have been shooting threes since middle school that it has gotten really stale.
3 outcomes of basketball: a dunk, a foul and a three.
And Chris Paul grabbing somebody’s junk
Game would be more fun to watch if they just moved the 3 point line back a little.
the only thing they can do is remove the 3pt line
Take away the three pointer?
Back in your day I’m sure it wasn’t about which team hit their shots but who had more heart and grit or something
this all day bruh. oldheads don’t want to admit that threes have mostly just replaced all the long twos back in the day. it’s still rim attacks and jumpshots like it’s been for 50 years
Some of us old heads remember a time when fast breaks were non existent, shot clocks were used up, 3 pointers were rarely taken, and the first team to 100 usually won. I don’t miss them at all.
I’m pretty sure most of the old heads dislike the 5 out lineups that abandon a lot of the rim attacks you’re talking about. Most teams weren’t very good without at least 2 big guys back in the day, whereas now Draymond can be a big guy.
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Instead of overtime they decided tie games with money stacking competitions and whoever’s was higher won
I’m 40 and majorly prefer this era. Give me talent over any of the other bullshit any day of the week.
“everything was better in the past, when i was younger!”
thanks for the riveting insights
yeah basketball is so boring when the team who makes more shots wins. i want to see dudes beat each other up and shit blood on the floor like the good ole days
the team that makes more threes still loses all the time. and free throws are rarer now and thereby less important to winning than pretty much ever. in 80 nba seasons, the top 46(!!) seasons in free throw attempts per game are all pre-2000. or you can look at free throws/field goal attempts, where merely the top 29 seasons in that stat are all pre-2000. the current nba season is #67 and #68 out of 80 in those respective stats.
also, making threes is heavily dependent on the opponent’s defense, not just random chance. i’m sorry, but whining about ‘jacked up 3s’ is so surface level dude. i swear people complaining about modern shot selection all have their eyes glazed over until a shot goes up. the concepts of modern offense and defense that lead to good or bad shot attempts (inside the arc or outside) are complex and fascinating if you want to actually get into them. or you can just stare at the screen until a team attempts a three and yell at your TV, up to you
One step closer to saying “whoever hits more shots wins”
Reductionist but yea I guess
Way to eliminate every other aspect of the 3s like generating open 3s, defensive schemes that limit those 3s,, transition 3s etc.
You can boil everything down to “oh they shot better” if you’re a casual.
His shooting motion here looks way better than that weird hitch free throw shot he had back in the day.
ever seen wilt shoot 3pt hooks? the problem with the really big guys is that a normal motion puts too much force on the ball from free throw distance; I’d bet shaq’s 3 ball would be better than his free throws
Bitd they said Shaq would shoot 70 plus in practice with the coach they brought in. Like a 20 point diff come gametime
gotta think shaq was fatigued a lot in games, maybe had something to do with it
A lot of guys with tired legs have their form break down. Mostly young guys and big men with poor stamina. Guys who have a consistent shot/form rarely struggle
Iirc the league average is a 5-10% difference in practice vs in game, which is pretty substantial when the league average is 76-77% and low 80s for guards
I remember in a radio interview sometime in the 2000s with Walt Frazier, that he used to do suicides in the gym before practicing free throws. Trying to simulate game fatigue while doing them.
disagree completely. IMO (don’t know how/where to find data to support this) the reason big men have a lower free throw percentage is entirely due to the fact that the skill requisite for tall players is a lot lower than for shorter players. shorter players pretty much have to be able to dribble and shoot at least decently well in order to be playable. bigs do not. also, dudes who are 7 feet tall are much rarer in general than dudes who are 6’3, so that shrinks the talent pool drastically. of course, bigs who can dribble and shoot well are ideal, but they’re very rare, so most teams settle for bigs who are much less skilled than guards and wings because the boost to defense/rebounding is still worth it.
nba players across the board are very strong, particularly in the posterior chain (which contributes both to jumping and shooting power). it really doesn’t take much strength at all to shoot a ball if your form is decent. but players jump anyway and learn to modulate force because it helps get the shot over defenders. the same concept applies to free throws. i’m certain every single nba player is strong enough to shoot a ball well beyond free throw range with their standard free throw form. but they learn to slow the motion down or use less leg strength in order to reliably release the ball with the right force. i don’t think this is fundamentally any more challenging for a strong center than an average guard or wing. i just think bigs are worse at shooting accurately because they don’t need to be good at it to get minutes.
To piggyback on this, Pablo Torre once came out with a number that something like 17% of 7-footers in America end up playing in the NBA. The real number might be more like 5 or 10%, the methodology was a bit funky, but even if it’s 5% that means there’s a 1-in-20 shot that if you’re 7 feet you make it to the league. If it actually is the Torre number you’re a bit under 1-in-5. There are something like 2.25 million American men who are 19 today, only like 40 NBA players get drafted from America, so the chance a random man being an NBA player are like .0018%.
It’s just really about touch and their central nervous system. Most huge in guys out there in the world are very uncoordinated and move clumsily. The few that aren’t tend to become professional athletes. But they still don’t have the same motor control or touch as guys smaller than them. The taller you get the less likely you are to have fine or consistently fine motor control at the hands and the extremities. There have been some bigs who still have that touch at 7’ but it’s incredibly rare. Shaq worked on his free throws a ton. He took thousands in practice and hit them in practice at a surprisingly good clip. I used to get courtside seats for the Bulls and I watched Andre Drummond warming up in pregame drain 3’s at a shockingly high rate. But game pressure and just being good and not elite with touch is what separates the elite shooters from average to bad shooters. Watch these guys shoot around before any game and you’ll see damn near all of them can actually shoot well from pretty much any distance including the 3. They’re all the .01% of the .01%. Shaq could practice 10k free throws a week and his percentage might improve to a certain point but he’d still be a bad free throw shooter in games, his body literally just doesn’t have the capacity for it. There are plenty of examples of shorter guys who have no touch for shooting as well. At a certain point it’s just genetics and how they’re built and the motor control they have.
i don’t think there is any corelation between height and fine motor control. again, i think it comes down to there just being a much smaller pool of 7-footers for the nba to choose from. when you look at guys under 6’6, there are a dramaticaly higher number of players for teams to chose from, which means that they can be a lot pickier when it comes to things like motor control/shooting touch. the 200ish players below that height who make the nba are a lot likelier to be elite in that area than the players above that height, because the nba has a much smaller total talent pool to select from when it comes to taller players.
if you have evidence of any meaningful correlation between height and motor control, i’d be fascinated to see it, but as of now, i do not believe there is any link there.
This take is based so far out of the reality I live in I don’t even know where to start in response. We will just have to agree to disagree.
I’ve heard this theory and don’t buy it. Let’s say an average person shoots on a nerf hoop, same issue, you’re too big, ball is too light, you’re still making more baskets from 2 feet away than 3 feet, if you took hundreds of shots.
The taller/longer a person gets, the less coordinated they become. I don’t know the equation behind this, but it’s just evident watching basketball.
Almost every player over 7 feet tall just runs, shoots, and dribbles unorthodoxically. Even Wemby is less coordinated than the average NBA player, he just happens to be the only player that tall who can dribble and shoot from distance at an effective rate.
agree there’s 2 things going on: strength/size and coordination. Often correlated but we have a lot of statistic breakers in the nba. yao and simmons come to mind. maybe even rondo, but he’s an example of what practice can do to improve ball handling.
So… a 50% 3pt percentage?
Yeah no, it’s mental. Anything else is just cope, nothing is physically stopping pros from making free throws lol
Rondo sweat
Yeah, he must have had a corrective procedure for his taco neck.
James Harden is cursed 😭
Well, it did have a playoff atmosphere… 😉
foot on the line
sidenote i hate u pickup hoopers that say that on every shot as a distraction tactic
THAT’S A ONE!
ANWUHN
I’m always confused by this in pick up. There are no free throws in pickup, so if you make it, it’s not an and one. And if you miss then it’s just a foul.
I’m probably overthinking it.
You nailed the spelling though.
Side-side note 1s and 2s is unc shit and shouldnt be played anymore with the way the games played now unless its outdoors in bad weather
Long ranged shots should only be 50% more points, not double.
Yep exactly
On a regulation court that feels silly imo but a court with inperfections/bad lines or something i guess it makes sense. The 3 ball has been around my whole life so I dont think its the same sport without it. It changes the entire spacing and balance of a court. Playing 1s and 2s leaves a lot of space inside the line and just constantly chasing around the 3 line and playing only 1s turns it into a rugby scrum inside the line if everybody knows whats going on
Bro the uncs like me are the ones who have been trying to explain this to younguns for literally decades
Nah, real unc shit is 1s only
yoo true i like 1s only a lot actually. shoot if you think you can make it. period
lmaoo i played a 3 on 3 game recently with this one dude close to my age (late 20s) and then four guys who were closer to high school/college aged. the other older guy was trying to argue for playing 2s and 3s and explain the math, and i swear the kids looked so clueless about what he was talking about. we ended up going with 2s and 3s after way more discussion than should have been necessary. amazing to me people don’t think about this
Everything is worth 1
I always say it in earnest and build up that rep because otherwise people bitch if you wait til it goes in and people are constantly line stepping. I know what you mean though and they most certainly exist
when it’s a good call it has to be called. I pride myself on 1) always closing out and 2) never stepping on the line, 2’s are too valuable in 1’s and 2’s lol
Habitual line stepper
my pro move is being so bad at multitasking that, when i shoot, my brain is way too focused on shooting to comprehend anything anyone says to me, whether it’s important or not. i will shoot as well/poorly as i ever do no matter what you try to say to me in that moment, and then i comprehend the words a solid 2-3 seconds later.
Honestly, Shaq had a killer jump hook shot that he would make from 10-12 feet consistently. He probably would have shot a 3 or two a game in 2026
They say one of the biggest correlations for 3pt % is your free throw percentage, so feels unlikely 😬 We’ll never know of course, but it’s way more likely if Shaq finds himself with space beyond the arc somehow, he’s running through all the way to a dunk
Bruce Bowen famously shot a higher 3pt % than FT% one season. Just a fun fact.
Andre Roberson shot 41% from 3 and 14% from the line in the 2017 playoffs.
holy shit 14% is cataclysmic wtf. dude was WAY in his head
What in the world no way . Haha crazy
But on like what, 2 attempts?
230 3pt attempts. 90 free throw attempts.
Averages to like 3 attempts a game, probably not attacking the paint at all, makes sense
Nah, Bowen was a corner specialist, pretty much the only offensive skill he had.
He was the prototype 3&D player, of course he had more than 2 attempts.
He had 2.8 that year lol
That rounds up to 50% more
If you round up to the nearest million it’s actually almost 50,000,000% more, fun fact
Tbf Drummond was also an abysmal FT shooter
So Shaq would make the 3s when it mattered 😤😤
I would bet on Andre Roberson making 20 threes before making 10 free throws
I wouldn’t bet on neither lol
Our modern Shaq looks like Giannis. He probably doesn’t put on the weight after Orlando and leans towards that style of play.
you have to understand that current bigs are developed completely differently than they were when Shaq was young. Wemby has been practicing 3’s since he topped 6’. Coaches would bench bigs who took that shot back in 80s/90s.
No.
Absolutely not lol, mid range/hook shots do not universally translate to the 3, it’s a whole different body mechanic
Lol wtf
Just reminded me of when some idiot on here wanted to argue with me that Shaq hasn’t taken more than five 3 pointers in his life. Man people are dumb
He took 22 in the NBA
But that was a lifetime ago!
He actually hit 2, but only 1 counted. I love the one shown in the NBA Jam Music Videos
It was a funny bit but the right thing for the Cavs was to keep taking those open shots in the 2nd
The last frame of Shaq jumping up and down like a baby lmao
I told a friend of mine Shaq would beat most of America in a free throw contest and he didn’t believe me. It’s hard to comprehend how skilled even the worst NBA players are, and as bad as Shaq was shooting free throws he’d shoot a high percentage in an empty gym
Yep. Shaq is probably a 50% 3pt shooter and 90% ft maker in practice. Its different when the lights are bright and the pressure is on.
And also game fatigue. Players aren’t just casually strolling to the free throw line in games, it comes after high impact physical exertion.
That’s probably the biggest reason behind the discrepancy between practice % and in-game %.
Shaq today would beat 99% of America in literally any basketball challenge.
Top 10 player of all time. If all it took was size he would have been a blueprint copied by other teams instead of the 1 of 1 he was.
Do they just have a pharmaceutical ad hanging in the studio…
They needed something entertaining to watch instead
And thanks to Tremfya, I’ve been able to shoot 3’s with my pals the way we used to back in the day.
Dawg Kenny knees always make me laugh dog lol
He’s posted workout vids a years ago with him draining deep threes in his gym. He was just clowning around, but still. He was hitting more than a few.
Now bring back the 3 pt world record shooter vs Shaq. First to three
Before I die I just want to hang with all of them during show for 5 minutes…Ernie, Shaq, Kenny and sir Charles….
3 point threat Shaquille O Neal
The black Steph curry
How u gonna clip it without shaq calling out Jeff Richardson and tom legler
Shaq looks like a kid who just hit his 1st 3 lol
Point made
I want a Shaq vs Rudy vs Javale vs Dwight Howard 3 point contest for next year’s ASS instead of the slam dunk contest.
More than he did for the Cavs when he was here
Shoulda gotten Kenny to contest the shots
Lmao
OKC had a 1-14 stretch vs GS. Are we sure Kenny was talking about CLE when he said Shaq could hit 1 if he took 14?
There’s a reason everyone loves Shaq. Adults, kids, everyone.
Just another variety of the pathetic “we’re still relevant, dammit” ethos of this show. “I can shoot better than these current players.” No one cares, guys. Put this show out of its misery.
Flair checks out
They really did get but hurt after they criticized the lakers LMFAO
Shaq’s butthurt alone equals the combined butthurt of all Lakers fans
This show ran its course five years ago, now it’s just grim
I’d much rather watch these guys clown around than some half assed analysis which is what you get from every other show.
Inside the NBA is literally like every other show
It’s literally not. The diff is the chemistry between these 4 and it’s a great break.