Yeah, I enjoy being able to scale to a point where I’m essentially an unstoppable force. It’s fun, what can I say.

I’ll make 4-5 cool builds per league. I don’t min/max and invest mirrors per each character. I’ll hit like lvl 93 and maybe each character will be worth 1 mirror. That’s my stopping point per character. After that I’ll grind maps on my favorite build until a new PoE1 league drops. Then I do the same in PoE1 until a new PoE2 league drops.

I mean people do like playing vampire survivors. I do like chasing perfect builds and items. Sometimes the build just doesn’t feel right for you. Chasing the ultimate pinnacle of minmaxing in this game if you’re playing solo will take almost the whole season.

For some people it‘s fun to just watch numbers go higher.(dps or currency)

For most people though, the journey to becoming that „singular point of destruction“ is the appeal in itself. So when people ask for more content they often mean harder content, to make that Journey longer and more worthwhile. Some content that you can Access as a „reward“ for becoming so strong. That and/or different ways to grow stronger.

All Arpgs to some extent turn into vampire survivors, wiping hordes of enemies and deleting bosses in seconds both d4 and Poe 1 and 2 and grim dawn suffer from this . Power creep and dopamine seeing screens exploding is part of it . They even tried there hardest to not have Poe 2 become Poe 1 and they have failed as endgame is still zoom and boom

Make character. Play game till bored. Play new game. When new season comes, repeat. Welcome to ARPG. It’s not too much deeper than that no matter which one you play.

I noticed some Path of Exile keywords in this post:

• DPS - Damage per Second

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Well early access is really just a test period for how you might want to play in the full release. The only actual events we’ve been getting is the leveling races in SSF.

It’s actually a huge feat to learn and complete temples or in leagures that may not have broken ways to farm, getting hundreds of divines is what most will dream of.

Being able to kill the whole screen is something ARPG players have always chased. That’s why D3 onwards gets massive complaints because they really simplified the chase and dumbed it down so it’s easier to get to those endorphin inducing levels of fun. I still remember the trailers and teaser for D3 were HEAVILY about hordes of monsters and the satisfaction of jumping in and smashing them all.

POE2 is the spiritual successor to D2 because both those games have a far higher skill cap where screen killing is not enough because lots of monsters fast does not equate to killing bosses fast.

Each to their own really, it’s all subjective to how much fun you are having.

• Numbers go higher is part of the fun.
• Everyone has their own goals where they want to stop.
• After playing the same game for years, you get very efficient at going through it fast and getting to high end-chase goals (Usually).
• Killing monsters in a second, can be a goal by itself & a fun thing to do
• After achieving your own goals, you drop the league and wait for the next one. So that you can have fun with the game again with new content

Most people take a break shortly after reaching this point, unless the game is their job or they’re addicted. It’s the journey to get there that’s so enticing

Farming dedicated loot drops for me.

I went and farmed all the lineage support gems that were worth divines. The Adorned. The last relic. Something about coming home from a days work and just turning your mind off to grind farm dedicated loot drops is relaxing.

I made my own “holy grail” per se - where I try to get items that are hard to get and wanted by players

Yes, or rather I want it to be possible in a game. I think more things you can optionally work towards is usually the better.

I’m not playing again until a new act or until they get rid of +level gems as the primary stat for flat damage scaling

Becoming god is kind of the point of the genre.

The goal isn’t simply to beat the game, but to dominate it.

So anyway i started blasting

Yes. But I also want content you can juice to make the monsters extremely tough to kill, even with having mirror tier gear.

My favorite POE1 league was Affliction… Because you could make monsters extremely hard to kill, even with multiple mirrored pieces. The rewards for doing so were also tons, and tons of loot.

It’s fun the journey to get there, I actually scaled down my dps for more ES, faster recovery, rarity but importantly visual flair during gameplay, ie +3 spells ammy to choir https://youtu.be/HYj2LRqhOrc?si=2TSMbHKly6WNcg7D

Kind of its trying to get there that is the fun part.

I think theres a huge gap between having a multimirror juiced account and the current roof of the content difficulty. Personally i would like to see this roof be a lot higher. Still your point stands; at some point you will be so strong that you can zoom through this aswel. But right now you can do anything with some basic average gear

Edit: typo

Yes that is what i was chasing for endgame and from there you min/max, you chase even the 1% increase but that’s more like perfectionism, i learned to just move on at some point, a different character or a new build maybe cuz especially in the very end of a season min/max can become very pricey. The content you wanna chase is what becomes the grind, for me it went from Temple (i lost all interest in that) to uber arbiter regularly and mainly Trial of Chaos. I do around 10 runs or more every day while in between helping new players with builds, gear or bosses.

This league is a bit different in that chasing obscene DPS/clear speed actually has a purpose in mega juiced temples. In other leagues, I still optimize for a while after achieving god status just for the fun of it. It’s like further solving an endless puzzle.

I like one shotting mobs, I am not a big fan of one shoting the bosses.  But with the whole one portal design you basically have too or its frustrating and not fun.

that’s pretty much the point of most if not all ARPGs

Yes

It is not a problem that people can eventually dominate everything in the game.

It is a problem if people can too easily make a character that dominates the game.

I don’t have a strong opinion on whether or not it’s too easy to make a character that dominates all content in PoE2, but I do think that PoE2 has suffered very significantly from character balance issues since day 1. I know they’re spending almost all of their resources developing the content of the game, but I am someone who thinks balance tuning is effectively a form of content and is vital to the game being fun long-term.

I think there have been builds in PoE2’s history that were too strong too easily (e.g. patch 0.1 spark archmage), but I think the much bigger issue in PoE2 is that too many skills are too weak. The skill balance is actually so bad.

Once u ve tried out all the content it doesnt really, ur just optimising for faster farming and more time tp try out other classes and gambling with the crafting system trying to go for those mirror tier items.

Game doesnt really work in endgame unless u make unethical builds, gl not getting bored out of ur mind fighting every boss for 10 minutes having to dodge his repetitive 3 attack pattern that one shots u if u fuckup and makes unable to retry or clearing out a juiced temple or even a t15 waystone when u gotta click 3 buttons and hit each blue mob 5 times. This game aint dark souls. If u want a slowed down version just play ssf.

I like being able to scale that far and kill ubers in seconds. But the problem is some builds get there way to fast and cheap.

Well the fun is getting to that point The journey is the fun You don’t enter endgame and instantly wipe the whole screen in a second and never die

It matters only up to the point that it tests different aspects of your build. Every build can do everything if you put all mirror gear on. Build makers don’t spend all their currency on a single char, I move on once a build can clear all contents. But you are correct in that build crafters care more and having more skills, more support gems and more unique item effects instead of end game bosses

Play hardcore or the game becomes a 1 button crafting sim from. No dopamine rush in softcore anymore

I would love to do boss mechanics if they were actually better in this game, but they make me groan so much I don’t even care and would rather have them die fast than deal with any of them. Arbiter being able to do big hits while you have to stand in the circle, Geonor being unpredictable with where he hops in from the fog and if you accidentally roll into him GG, Tavakai just pooping everything all over the ground.

Doryani having an immune phase when the middle turret thing comes out and he’s pumping out damage while you have to dodge the beams and can’t do anything to him, bosses dropping big hit things from the sky that you can barely see because of so much going on while they do another big wind up so it’s hard to pay attention to, and most of it all happening very quickly with little time to react is just not fun.

I’m adamant on the fact you don’t want to put “content”, and by that I mean enemies, level design, strategy and boss fights as after thoughts because you’ll just one shot everything anyways.

One of the main, huge strength of PoE2 above 1 is the fact that enemies and in particular boss fights are actually well designed and interesting. Yes, an optimized build will one shot them, but if juiced, or just when leveling up, they are actually fun to do, and should stay that way.

Just because numbers go big and I get to obliterate things eventually means I want to obliterate slop, it has to be good stuff so that when things get tough, or if I’m using a meme build, I can have fun while doing them

Personally, once I’m able to beat all pinnacle bosses, I call it quits. IMO there isn’t any reason to push beyond that. If you can kill uber arbiter why would you want to run a juiced temple? Currency? For what? You already beat the game.

Everyone has different goals though.

Absolutely; my build is a hot bag of garbage, in my mind, until I can carry six man parties

edit: grammar/words are hard

The perfect build is also just the final destination that you reach. New content makes the journey there more interesting.

Have you even played the first game? Even at extremely high power levels there exist decisions and trade offs relative to the content being targeted.

You want to add random affixes to maps you’d better be able to deal with the entire pool. That’s not something that really happens just by getting ‘stronger’.

It’s about the journey, not the goal

Once your build is to the point where you are a singular point of destruction, screen wiping anything, you no recognize what random mob you just killed over the particle effects of your abilities, pinnacle bosses have become test dummies for your dps. Is this the endgame gameplay you want?

The enjoyment I have is from scaling my character to this point. Every league I go in without looking at build guides or anything and try to complete everything with my own build. Managed to do that this league all the way to endgame.

And then I optimize my character to the point whatever content I am running gets steamrolled, whether its screenwide aoe’s or coc craziness. The fun is watching your character struggling to kill a boss for 2mins to killing him in 20 seconds and then 10 and then 2. or less.

Would be nice to have more content to scale to a higher ceiling.

yes , you might not need to play games because playing games is a waste of time…