Different sport, but check this one:

The Chicago White Sox have won three postseason series since 1917.

All three were in 2005.

Two of those were in the same season too.

He is far and away the most overrated player in NBA history

he has the record for most 1st round playoff exits in nba history with 11 out of 13 appearances.

If you watched him play it doesn’t feel that wild. Was always about him over all else.

Knicks are going to retire his jersey for making the second round that one time. His number will also be up in Nuggets rafters, just with Jokic’s name. Hanlen is bum who has talked some insane shit about Jokic because he was Embiid’s trainer.

He wanted to live in New York more than he wanted to play basketball. Not really surprising.

It’s a monthly thing. This month, it’s Queta’s team

As a certified Celtics hater, pickings have been pretty slim lately lol

“I ain’t coming back to be a role player, doc”

The whole trope of who’s team it belongs to is honestly very interesting because I feel like the only people that bring this up are often either the selfish ones or the ones that just don’t think so much for themselves and just keep on the same old trope. The NBA is especially bad for this kind of thing. They do it with face of the league, top 5 players, MJ vs LeBron, whose team it is, and so many more.

I actually don’t believe that at all

I don’t even understand the debate. Anyone with any basketball knowledge knows Tatum is better than Brown at like 90% of the game. The fact people even bring this conversation up still is baffling.

Yeah at first I was wondering why Hanlen was stirring the pot, but honestly he’s valid for crashing out over another shit stirring narrative about the Jays- even if he was a bit harsh.

They’ve always made it work, ego has never been an issue for either of them. Absolutely zero reason to believe that will change.

Yeah the advice is stupid because Tatum knows how to be mature and sacrifice already. The idea that a JB led team can contend for a title is ludicrous. Tatum is the undisputed #1 option whenever he plays and there’s no debate.

*Ignoring the low-hanging fruit of Melo talking about ego/pride since he pointed out his own shortcomings before saying it.

I disagree on your last point.

70-80% of Tatum makes this team an extremely dangerous contender. I also don’t know that this team, as constructed, actually needs Tatum to take the same level of workload. For his flaws, the leap JB has taken taken this year in terms of being an offensive initiator (as well as white to an extent) is going to allow Tatum some reprieve from being the only person on the team who can reliably breakdown and bend defenses.

One of tatums best shot types is a catch and shoot 3 (far better than a pull ups), something that’s naturally taken a backseat over the last few years as his responsibilities as point forward have grown. Tatum being afforded the opportunity to play more off-ball may actually allow him to lean into some of his strengths in a way he hasn’t been able to.

The constant dick measuring about whose team it is in the media and online or the discourse around who gets what award is way overblown. Those guys have played together and won too much to have this shit discussed. People need to give it a rest.

Right? What the hell? Also Melo’s teams had a winning record 14 out of the 19 years he played. He didn’t win a championship, but he contributed to winning basketball.

hanlen kinda freaks out whenever someone criticizes or even comments on someone he trains so no surprise here

People do not agree that Melo is in any position to lecture Tatum about maturity, ego, pride, and sacrifice in pursuit of winning.

It wasn’t necessary, but it makes more sense in the context that every fucking year the Celtics team/fans have had to listen to people lecture about how the Jays won’t be able to work together and whose team it really is- when the 2 guys themselves have been perfect role models about it. If there was going to be an ego issue between them, it’s not going to suddenly come up in year 8 lol.

So while I can believe he had good intentions, Melo of all people telling a player who has been 10x the team player he was to… be a team player might have touched a nerve.

It’s just rich coming from one of the most selfish players to ever play. It makes sense to me that Tatum’s trainer would tell him to shut the fuck up. What is he supposed to say? “Thanks Melo! Now will you tell me about the time you won one playoff series in seven years as a Knick? Please tell it slow so it lasts longer!”

He’s been sitting on the bench watching them all year, like he doesn’t know what they’re doing.

He didn’t put winning above himself until he was washed

For a while “back in the day”, people spoke about Melo, KD, and LeBron as if they were on the same level. Insane in retrospect.

Who is forgetting?? This sub shits on him constantly

I don’t disagree about Melo but I think part of the reason they forced that trade was Dolan too. He wanted Melo on the roster before the player’s strike that year

It’s just annoying that he said Tatum needs to be mature and sacrifice, making it sound like Tatum hasn’t sacrificed before. The Jays know how to sacrifice. Melo doesn’t have to say that part. Could’ve just said Tatum should take it easy and not said the sacrifice part

And coming from Melo who’s well known to sacrifice

People are mad because it’s a notoriously known selfish player telling another player that they should take a back seat and fit in. I think that’s the issue. I don’t care either way. Fuck the Knicks and the Celtics lol

how is this bad advice?

It’s not. It’s just completely unnecessary advice that implies the existence of a problem Tatum and Brown have disproven over and over and over again throughout their careers.

EDIT: It’d be like if Donald Trump advised Barack Obama to choose his words carefully when speaking in public. In a vacuum, that’s fine advice. In context, it’s laughable.

Exactly. Nothing wrong with what he said and no reason for the cheap shot by Hanlen. I fucking hate ring culture.

It’s not bad advice, it’s just funny because JT figured this out by his 3rd season and Melo never did. This is basically like Ron Artest giving Mike Conley advice on controlling his temper. Maybe there’s more context to the quote, maybe he’s just doing the ‘talking head with nothing to say’ thing. But JT and JB have already been through this in the finals, they’re both happy to take what defenses give them and let the hot hand take point.

Melo can roll out of bed and get you 30 points!

..and give up 32 in the process 

He’d fit in great with today’s overrated Stat Padders 

He won linsanity by having him shipped out of town

He coulda said learn from my mistakes and all would’ve been good lol

What have you done to be talking about Drew?

Guess everyone should delete their social media accounts. Can’t talk about sports unless you’re an all star.

Hali ruptured his Achilles because he was already playing on a calf strain and made the decision to risk it anyway because it was Game 7 of the Finals.

Hanlen might also need to examine why both his clients are, when healthy, premier players in the NBA.

This is where I am too, I’m no Melo fan but we can just go in circles all day back to what’s Drew Hanlen’s qualification to talk about and criticize Carmelo.

You have to have done it in order to teach and talk? The only qualified Trainer would be the magical Hakeem post-move session then.

Hanlen worked with Tatum since he was in middle school.

Tatum got the ring tho lol

Melo (3 time Olympic medalist and NCAA Champion) getting told he doesn’t have accolades to talk basketball by Hanlen (had 9 points and 5 assists in 39 minutes in a loss against Georgetown, last game of his NCAA career at age ~23)

I wish Melo called him out on that. Trainers getting too big for their britches, they think they’re the stars 

Yeah, it’s totally easy to be the 10th all time leading scorer

At one point I think he was the leading scorer in team usa history, and has 3 gold medals. Do people go tell other olympic gold medalists they don’t know how to win?

Does that “we” include Melo?

And a certain portion of Reddit hates Melo because Jeremy Lin couldn’t sustain his Linsanity play past a two week period.

Both sides of the Melo debate are weird.