So this is the Infakous “ Viper “ everyone was telling me about 😅.. yea she’s something indeed
If you haven’t upgraded gear in a while, she’s a wall to remind you that’s a good idea.
To remind you that chaos res is needed
Or the “immune to poison” unique
That’s not helping with all the chaos runes after the solar ones.
Yeah, poison hardly matters in this fight, you can dodge all the soldier stabs, and her like one venom move is also quite easy to dodge.
My onky issue with her is the arena of soldiers, when they do the wave attack… I have never had any other issues in this fight, so poison immunity is a blessing here.
The arena soldier attacks are are completely dodgeable with with dodge roll though, hence why it’s not really worth it. It’s a Dark Souls Git Gud moment.
The only time it can be really “tough” is the last third when the arena is super small if you take too long to kill. But that’s a gear issue.
Maybe you’ve got some sort of fantastic internet connection, or gear, but I have spent hours on this boss (in other leagues) and even posted the glitch where you get stuck outside of the arena when they move in. Out of the 100 times I tried to dodge those soldiers moving in I maybe got away with it 3-4 times. The only time I didn’t struggle with this boss was when certain builds were significantly overpowered/broken in which case the fight lasted less than 10 seconds. I had just assumed it was broken because no one replied on Reddit or the forums about the glitch. Got told to “gitgud” like I didn’t have 800 hours on the game by the end of the original launch. 😂🤦♂️
Most of her damage is physical actually. Dev confirmed.
Best defence is probably flat life on gear at this point.
Well, best defense is a good offense so you just skip phases… but that’s good too. I think a lot of people skirt by on moderate levels of ES and she’s the first fight that’ll punish you for having low ES values with no additional layers of defense to back it up. Most EV or EV/Armor builds I’ve done tend to be OP offensively, like lightning spear or grenades or rake/bloodhunt or poison arrow
Mark said recently, she is designed to be beaten with 0% chaosres.
Why’d I never think of that 😭 I tried again until I dodged everything
It’s not true, the devs have confirmed that most of the damage she does is physical damage, we just don’t usually get a lot of it by this point in the campaign and you also don’t get a massive hitpool by then either especially if you’re behind on gear upgrades
Oh ok, that’s good then. This fight will always be hard ig
No need. Just dodge it. And enough movement speed
i was stuck on this biatch for weeks and finally defeated her without gears/weapon upgrades. i just dodged enough attacks to wear her down. I died so many fucking times i almost gave up on the game. My first week ever playing POE last year
Wow and I was frustrated because it took me like 20 mins before I could beat her lol. Felt like smashing my laptop!
Flasks always get me killed. Spend a long time never drinking them, then when I need it I gotta drink all of them for a single heal.
Hahah I did upgraded them, I think I’ll go to Vaal temple , forge my weapons again , the warriors surrounding the area are annoying
This fight was the bane of my existence when I first played on initial release, you have to time you dodge roll to escape the warriors surrounding viper, especially the big attack where they all come after you in sequence. Once you get that figured out you should be able to beat the fight even if your damage is mediocre.
You have to time your dodge just right to dodge their attacks. Some chaos resistance would certainly help too. Poison is chaos damage.
I was building a spark sorc at the first of this season and was doing fine until I ran into this bitch. Deleted it and started over with a permafrost wolf and slayed her ass.
Edit: If you think she is bad, wait until you face Azmadi in the Interlude.
If Azmadi is the archer that fills an 8-shaped small arena with chaos wormholes, then yes, that nearly made me quit. Viper was my #2 worst and act 2 endboss the #3.
I have a strong quarterstaff which can be better . 60-110 damage with great attributes
Absolutely. My first char ever was a spark mage. Got to her and got hard stuck and had no currency to upgrade. Ended up abandoning the hero and went to a flame caster minion witch (can’t remember build name) and just melted her in seconds.
Lmao so true
Just got stuck here and was wondering what I needed to try and work on. The poison is so bad with this boss.
Just pay attention to the green color that appears shortly before the guards attack to know where to dodge!
All guards simultaneously turn green
You can dodge roll into the stabs. You go under the spears.
Just dodge sideways… in the same direction they are firing, and you end up eating 20 spears in half a second and dies miserably.
This is how my fish brain works too
She’s 100% a gear check and dodge skill check. If your gear isn’t high enough, you wont be able to defeat her. And if you dodge skills (you personally no the character) aren’t up to snuff, this will teach you that too. My first time through I found her harder than Doryani honestly.
Unnerfed EA launch version of her was absolutely bonkers difficult. I think I clocked like 30 deaths.
Wait, she was nerfed? and here I thought I got better… Should’ve guessed
She was the most difficult boss at launch for me, by a large margin
Beating her at lvl 16 back then was probably my most significant achievement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Zik5HUQAg if anyone is curious)
Viper received several nerfs during the 0.2.0E patch. Those are the main ones I remember.
She was nerfed pretty good honestly. Still hard and I’m glad she is but she’s nothing like EA launch.
It legit felt like playing Dark Souls at a few points in EA launch, but her and that damn bird from ultimatum stick out as SUPER OP bosses that would just wreck everyone lmao
My first char was a bone spell witch, I rebuilt the skill+support gem setup numerous times and spent a hefty amount on passive respec as well at this boss.
But finally beating the campaign with that character felt like I achieved something big, probably my proudest moment in PoE history. Needless to say, I got bodied on maps and haven’t touched the character since. I’ll give the bone spells another go on 1.0 though, my inner D2 necromancer can’t let it go.
I remember Ignagduk being a total menace to me… her damage was soooo high!
0.1 Viper & Janmara were fucked up if you went in blind
Damn I feel pretty good about myself for beating her un-nerfed. I don’t know she got nerfed Injust assumed I had gotten so much better that I roll her Everytime now lmao. I beat her like day 2 or 3 of early Access release.
She was the hardest fight i experienced.
Act 2 boss in beta was extremely hard. I felt really underwelmed when i fought him again in EA.
Yeah, took me a few tries coming in as an experienced poe player on release. Feel bad for people new to the franchise/genre running into her. I imagine a lot of ppl gave up on ssf there and bought some gear
She was fucking INSANE.
I lost count of my deaths playing cold chronomancer (which was so bad at EA launch and I also am bad lmao).
Eventually I froze her in the corner off rip with frost wall and spammed her down using the time reset skill that gives CDs back. Nuked her before she was able to perform even a single attack lol.
The amount of tries it took to do that though was insane. I remember being so frustrated then absolutely blowing her away so quickly I was like “wait I won?”
SHE WAS NERFED????
You don’t know how many hundreds of times I’ve lost to this lady. And never thought about my gear. I’ve left so many dead builds in her wake.
Bro it hurts to read this
Lmfao. Thats impressive. Respeccing before looking at gear. Love it!
Hundreds is a wild number
I helped people beat her when early access came out and got really good at it.
Man my first ever playthrough she forces me to learn how to dodge
Very nice fight
I really hate fighting her though
Been a couple of times like I keep dying on her at league statt, but I know I can do it if I just dodge one more skill because I can’t be bothered to find replacement for most gear that is from act 2, so I just annoy myself to death throwing lives to her while my buddy dies at the Spears every time.
She was the main reason I abandoned the league. I had to deal with invisible enemies and attacks constantly which I dealt with but she was an absolute terror in that regard. Invisible Viper, invisible arrows, soldiers showed no sign whether they use the pierce attack or not.
That sounds like a graphics issue on your end honestly. There are very few invisible enemies and viper doesn’t have any invisible attacks. Maybe I misunderstood but it sounds like something was wrong.
I got hard blocked by her in act 3 cruel in 0.2. I could not get a high phys spear to drop or craft in a couple days, and I couldn’t afford the cheapest trade items, so I quit the league early
It’s always the wave of pokes for me lol
It’s the poked and the guards surrounding us .. I just died but got rid of half her life ..
You gotta dodge the spears as they fire out. They glow green before they attack with the spears. If time your dodges well you should be able to make it through the fight with barely taking any damage at all.
Don’t forget to just stick to one side, if you’re close to one side the other side won’t hit you with their spears except for the very last phase but thats probably the easiest one as they match up for that phase.
Every league I can’t wait to get my char to bitchslap this boss. She really fucked me up several times
Wivch van of you is a vaaaaal blood
Probably the one with Vaal as an anagram in her name
Oh, well that’s me of course!
She’s my number 1 Vaal<3
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Her guards do way more damage than she ever could.
Here’s a tip. The damage from the green spears is not chaos damage. It’s physical damage. Try to dodge roll in time with the green flashes to the opposite way as they moving. Ie dodge roll into the spears as they come past you.
Any forms of physical damage reduction really help too. You can find that on a shield sometimes or some ascendencies have a node for it.
You can still damage her when she is floating around putting circles everywhere if you didn’t know that. If you don’t apply a little pressure during this phase she will regen her energy shield. For some reason the first few times I killed her I assumed she would be invulnerable during that phase. Maybe that is unique to me!
Take a few to recognize her attack patterns. If you can down her before the phalanx tightens is really a good goal. Otherwise it’s dodge and hit with big, quick attacks or land [dots] while you continuously weave. Would need to know more about your build to give more insight.
I’ll send a picture in a bit
One two three dodge, one two three dodge
Yeah, she’s the real act boss.
Time to equip that anti-chaos/poison gear !
I have poison gear. It’s her stupid warriors lol they damage me more than her 🤣💀
Gotta dodge roll through the spears. I thought I was going to have an issue with my Warrior Bear spec, as I have to stay in melee range a lot to actually hit her. Turns out I only died once, and it was because of my own mistake. Came back the second time and melted her.
r/vipersurvivors
She’s been nerfed multiple times throughout many updates. This fight is a million times easier than it was a year ago.
This boss was my nemesis haha. I started the game in December and no prior experience with games like this. I think she, or rather the spears, killed me about 30 times. I then gave up, leveled up, looked for better gear and went again. xD Was an actual challenge. Annoying at the time, but very satisfying after I finished her.
Scary in hardcore especially, I always over level for her
The next wall is interlude map 3. We all know who she is
Interludes have a wall?
Duuuude she was busted in 0.1 ahhh the good ole day
She is a definitely a test of damage and poison resistance.
She was even harder before, they nerfed her a little bit. There were more waves of those fucking guards attacking you, I’m colorblind and that green is pretty hard to notice
Ahahahah the color blind cracked me I’m sorry
No problem. I am not even joking 😅😅
when i first encountered her…😭😭😭😭
sorry trauma hit me for a quick sec…
i respec’d my passive tree and swapped out gear…
just to barely beat her after doing all of that
When I faced her with the druid she was a laughing stock. And I am just a casual player.
She’s rough at first but after you’ve done her multiple times she becomes pretty easy to dodge most of the attacks
1.0 dude did I get whooped. Now played it often enough and got better at making builds usually first try
Make sure you have a charm to clear poison, it can help if you get tagged by one of the attacks.
Staying away from edges is important; those spears hurt. Other than the usual, like ES, Evasion, Armour, Charms and learning boss mechanics, I highly recommend getting some type of buildup to stop her moving, like freeze buildup from freeze skills. If you can stop her fighting for a couple of times during the fight and you have good DPS, you basically won the fight.
Ah the most bugged fight in the game. You’ll see what I mean pretty soon.
High dps is the key, like with many fights.
She’s the only boss I struggle with (unless I can oneshot her). I’m green-colorblind, I can’t bloody see poke wave attack unless I look directly at the spear and it becomes brighter. Also may try track snakes, but there are too many.
can you wear like, blue tinted glasses to shift the color to something you can see for fights like this? since for some reason the game -still- doesn’t have color blind support?
She is the number 1 boss I enjoy absolutely crushing in maps. She has terrorized me in some of my campaign runs so any time I get to stomp her maps is satisfying.
Dodge roll. That’s all. That’s the key. Fuckin ROLL.
I died SO many times to this boss in 0.1 XD
- poison charms - While the guards are shooting poison jabs just stay put until the segment near you starts glowing green, then move to a segment that’s not - She’s able to be damaged while calling down the fire and chaos circles, you can get in some extra damage that way if you can do so while also dodging the attacks
Took me 14 tries.
I hate mechanics where you can take, but not deal damage
Atleast ur not melee, so it is a walk in the park.
She’s a pretty rng fight depending on which phase she decides to enter.
My thoughts exactly . She spammed me with her throwing knife’s 4x in a row none stop
Dam
Had some problems with this one
My very first playthrough i had to attempt for like 4 hours before i could beat her. Obviously my build was absolute garbage and i was getting one shot by most attacks but goddamn when i finally got her, it was awesome. She only hit me like two or 3 times. It was a long ass fight too.
That is my very best memory of the game. Too bad that when you have a good build the fight is over in a few seconds.
Still the most annoying boss for me, ended countless HCSSF runs, rolling her poison spear buddies two or even three times in a row, during which she’s not taking any damage (obviously) turning a boss fight into a dodge roll Olympics
She’s indeed a problem until you learn that the soldiers’ spear cannot harm you during dodge animation.
Most of my deaths before knowing that are from the last spear wave plus a special attack from the boss right after.
Edit: Lava boss is the DPS check before you move onward. Use him to figure out if your gear is not good enough, or you’re not maximizing your combo potential.
I feel like it used to be worse. Maybe I’m imagining it.
She got nerfed 2-3 times in the first month
This is a fight that sets back a solid portion of my character attempts
Fighting her the 2nd time in brutal playing hardcore was sweat inducing…
Fought her last week for the first time, safe to say it was not fun. Cramming the area full of aoes while making it smaller is….a choice to be sure. But the worst thing is the spearman stab that goes over the whole lenght. Started act 3 with my merc now and I already took the node that makes you immune to poisoning when evasion on your helmet is higher than armor, as well as the venom draught.
On 0.1 launch, I can proudly say I was one of the first in the HC ladder to reach her. And subsequently died to her for my first death😅
She’s taken a number of my characters lives and is definitely no pushover
Wait until you get to the brother/sister duo. That fight has me looking up YouTube. 😂
Who 💀💀🙂↔️
Waka Flocka Ding Dang just shoot that b**** in the wing Wang
I hate how many times I’ve gotten stuck in the guards. They move while I’m dodging then I’ve got to log out since now I’m invincible for some reason too.
Every league I start keeping any chaos res as alt pieces about 5 levels before I reach her.
Equip even basic poison resist and chaos res charms too btw.
Shes been nerfed like 5 times… wish everyone could experience day 1 viper.
Boss fights are so utterly broken in this game. So many are stupidly “screw this game i quit” hard the first time through, but once you get geared up a bit in the endgame they are all just trivial. It’s almost like the up front cost is too high, then the eventual payoff is too low. They could really scale it a little better…
Chaos Resistance is a godsend here.
She is easier solo than in group play.
She can be an attrition fight or a DPS one depending on how you want to play it.
Use to have so much trouble with her on my first few playthroughs of Act 3, now that I’ve played Act 3 at least 50 times she gets bodied pretty easily. Definitely the biggest gear and skill check of Act 3.
I smoked her with my vaal gaurd bombers, then upgraded to gargantuan wasps. Need to go back and 1 shot her. Im immune to chaos…
Learn her mechanics and dodge them, the more damage you have, the less you need to do it.
Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, Dodge
Out of topic question. Do you play on base ps5? How was the performance?
D2 Good - Poe 2 Bad
Try it with a Barbarian. I’ve done all classes. Barbarian was by far the worst of the worst.
Bro this bitch in Maps with a wisp is the stuff of nightmares…
Yeah, she’s nasty. Very gear dependent. Good health flask with instant recovery and health gems on your gear.
Fought her before the ~2 latest nerfs… and stopped playing the game for weeks after multiple deaths.. tried to upgrade gear a bit, sometimes got her to 10-20%, but I’m in the “get trough campaign asap and go mapping” team, don’t want to spend lots of time fine-tuning gear/ skills before the real game begins
Yea her lil pokey boys fucked me up
They need to be banished
that’s my favorite boss. once you can dodge the spears it’s much easier and also try to find ways to get extra damage in. when she makes the circles you can still do dmg dont just play safe. as others said make sure your build is good and you have decent gear as well
Roll roll roll and then roll and oh yeah roll!!!
This is a DPS check and mechanics check. I struggled with this boss initially too, but learn patience to dodge mechanics and this fight gets ez.
During the waves of spears, just focus on dodge rolling the opposite direction they’re coming from.
First real challenge at game launch
Easiest boss of my life
But the Monkey 💀
What monkey
The big one holding a totem that’s super easy to dodge but will 1 shot you probably if you somehow can’t dodge it.
Basically only has 3 moves. Single big slam, triple big slam (only need to roll 3rd hit) and a roll ability that is probably the only one that should ever hit you.
Fuck this bitch fr
🤣🤣🤣 I swear her goons are worse
raise your chaos resistance, a chaos/poison charm, I like health pots that gain charges per tick, one tip that helped me was learning to just dodge, dont try dodging in a specific direction… honestly at your level its pretty easy to hit the zone before and bang a couple levels come back and try again…
even 10% chaos resistance can make a big difference. but yes, she is my most hated boss, she feels very unfair compared to the other bosses. i am just inherently bad at the phalanx spear phase, so i always die there no matter what i do.
Bosses like viper are the reason I don’t bother with HC in PoE2 where I only played HC in PoE1. Sometimes for example she will bug out and double close the soldiers on you, sometimes in the bomb phase the game forgets to leave gaps for you to stand or you don’t have movespeed on boots yet. Just overall crappy fight.
If they fixed those I actually don’t find her moveset too hard to avoid and the phalanx stabby part is really easy if she doesn’t bug out.
She already got nerfed, shes not the same viper from launch.
Had more problems with doran then viper on my first play through
My best tip is to kill her before she goes into any other phases.
First time through, she will humble you.
Make sure you doge when the spears come for you, the will go in one direction you must dodge under in the opposite direction. Dodge gives you a brief instance of invulnerability.
The spears are kind of a fake out to make you dodge roll into every single spear thrust.. you gotta pay attention to the green highlights but that’s useless.. you’re better off tanking it wherever you’re caught first and then using the highlights to know what direction to dodge in. But your stats gotta be at least high enough to tank the first couple pokes for this fight to make any sense imo.
With the right build, you can use burst damage to kill her
The chaos res charm or poison charm go a long way against her. Maybe even swap out some gear for chaos res if you can find some. She does very little elemental damage, so those res can be dropped for chaos.
This the weaker version of her too😂
shes not that bad now she used to be horrible
Yeah, this boss fight drove me nuts.
What pisses me off, is the fact that she’s not that lethal . Hers stupid minions with that spear barrage are the problem, once avoided that attack she’s a doable opponent
stun + poison charm, try to upgrade at least your weapon + flasks (+lvl to skills is what you’re really looking for and a good mana flask will help with costs), in the end damage is the most important. the longer you take to kill her, more attacks you have to evade…btw her ‘green’ poison attacks deal physical damage, so scaling chaos res will not help at all.
Besides that, yeah she really is one of the hardest bosses in campaign. Once you get the timing to evade her soldiers fight gets pretty easy actually. Good luck!
I tried like 30 times. Best advice I got was to outdps the bitch. I spent some currency and upgraded my bow and quiver. And it worked first attempt.
Somehow I’ve never seen her as a threat, mostly played a warrior. Bonk boys have many problems, but Viper isn’t among them.
I had to make ice walls to block the onslaught of spears. Definitely no one man job.
Made me drop the game.
I have a secret for her. World Chat “Can someone please help with a boss”
I just can’t believe it is still possible to get stuck in the wall when dodge rolling through it. Happened to me more times than I care to admit.
not going to lie, this boss made me want to quit.
Dont worry after 2-3 deaths she gets easier
Yeah, not only do you have to have some good gear for whatever level you are at, but most importantly, you have to be quick on your feet and time those dodges!
She’s like random bullshit go! And I’m all for it.
chaos and poison resistance is needed here mostly but fire resistant is necessary also but yes she’s fun XD what class are you first off all but mostly roll dodging and staying close to the guards you should be fine.
She’s a gear check. Check your gear… see if you have increased your armour, energy shield, evasion adequately and have updated good weapons, like even increasing your gear quality. Do you have runes, do you have anti poison charms.
2nd learn her routines. Most of her circles you can avoid by walking out if them. Her phalanx you can avoid by staying close to one side of them and dodging that side and then dodging their final Domino poison attack across the screen.
Lastly the damage gear check is necessary. Just like the lava guy, if you don’t kill her fast enough… you will die when the phalanx closes in too tight and the poison pool is in the middle of the area and she’s attacking you.
Watch some YouTube videos on fighting her to see some strategies.
I died some three times with my warrior but eventuelly i beated her, very good boss, actually all bosses in this game are great in some way, good Lucky pall!
It’s fine I took a break from her.. leveled up my gear and myself .. went back to the forge master and defeated him .. now I go back and defeat her
This fight is when I learned I-frames existed when you dodge. After that realization, she became easy af.
? Come again lol?
If you dont have damage to kill to kill forgemaster you dont have it to kill Viper, uograde skills, and gear and go again
The forge master is a lot tougher in terms of damage but not as strong .. I damage him a lot but run out of room.. vipers warriors are what damage me the most
If you cant kill him in time you cant kill.viper either, I mean you can but its just too much of a hassle. Upgrade are the way.
As a soul’s game player, this boss is easy once you get the beat.
I just started playing it .. like a month ago and I’ve grinding it heavy
Electric resistance. 1k dps and shes a breeze. Just when she gets everyone else envolved is the problem. Green glow stay away
It’s everyone around me that’s the issue not her .. well her throwing knifes she tosses quick are a pain in the ass
Once you learn the fight it’s kinda fun.
This and Monkey are the hardcore walls.
It’s a easy boss fight..
I always try and burst her down as much as possible before the guards really start to close in on you.
Honestly I’m finding poe2 both great and awful?
I first started on release and basically quit early act 2 because all of my characters just seemed to get stuck, I didn’t really understand crafting well - the game did and still does and awful job imo of educating new players.
Picked it up again recently in this league and my warrior Is now high 40s, beat a lot of bosses I’ve seen compilations of streamers getting creamed without a sweat, I’m obliterating everything as a slam titan.
All because i figured a bit of crafting out.
Wait yall genuinely think this boss is hard?
For the spears just stick to on side and the other side won’t reach you, makes it much easier as you just have to focus on one set of spears not both.
Her spears are no issue .. it’s the damn guards and her throwing knifes it’s just annoying
getting at least some chaos res makes this fight way more managable.
Have fun on hardcore 😂😂
You can damage her when she flies around and spams the circles. The Phalanx dudes hit you when you get to close and its a good spot to train dodging during their poison show.
For most builds its a good time to gamble on a new weapon, if you haven’t upgraded in awhile.
Chaos res will also help, but you can minimize the amounts of times she reduces the size of the arena by killing her faster, because its not a set amount of time.
I dont know. As a necromancer I just let my minions dow the work while I play cookie clicker
It’s was really really really hard… until I realized the spears make noise before they strike. Noe tauvakin, fuck that guy
I think your all wrong shes easy to dodge
You can roll through the side pokes and not get hit.
Poison charm.
Wait till you meet a mist reaper thing
She has killed many of my hardcore characters
Guys I almost had her … I’m in tears .. I’m stronger than her but there’s this stupid bug when I role and doge , especially next to the guards , it’s like my game slows down. And her spamming me none stop
