Paolo Banchero on why the Magic have struggled in the second halves of games: “Teams adjust at halftime… we don’t really adjust to their adjustments.”
He seems very confident in his head coach.
It’s been a problem for a while. That’s why I refuse to sell all my Paolo stock, because it’s really an issue. Bad.
It’s paolo’s play style though and his low iq. He hasn’t shown an ounce of improvement since he’s been in the NBA on those two key issues.
Sounds like he needs better coaching then. Wait, what were we talking about again?
So, I want to be clear that Paolo is not beyond criticism, and I defintely have my gripes with him as a fan, but I’ve also seen enough of him in Orlando to know that a large part of it is coaching.
There are very few plays run for him to get a switch off-ball, to get in good positioning off-ball, and there are absolutely no plays in the Orlando playbook that get paolo moving off-ball towards the basket.
Orlando does not put him in a good position to score easily. Instead, this coaching staff uses Paolo far too much as an offensive hub, which he has said since his rookie year is not the role he’s best at playing. Even at Duke, he got to work off-ball more.
The Magic coaching staff just doesn’t do that for him. They want him to be Luka, Cade, or LeBron when he’s not suited to that. He’s a big with guard skills, not a guard with big size, but in Orlando he’s not being able to showcase the former and instead has been square-peg-round-holed into the latter.
So, yeah, Paolo deserves plenty of criticism. However, like I said in my original comment, I’m not inclided to fully pull the plug on him until I see what a different coach can get out of him and this roster.
He’s undeniably skilled and undeniably used poorly. He’s got a pretty low BBIQ, so that’s a problem, but he’s not worth giving up on yet.
Is that bad
Yeah
“Nah, we just gotta like work harder and stuff” - Mose
I’d say so
It’s not good
Thibs, I think you’re gonna love Disney World
The Magic are way too chronically injured to survive a Thibodeaux season
Noted NBA head coach Kayvon Thibodeaux
Didn’t the Knicks have one of their healthiest seasons in a while under Thibs? How rooted in reality is the whole Thibs injury narrative really?
He will hate Paolo
Thibs entire offence is yo point guard, run the game and everyone else just stand around, imagine if he decides to run it thru Paolo
Keep playing unethical basketball buddy
Do you think I play for the knicks
…..maybe?
This is frying me
Found Jalen Brunson’s burner!
Lol saying that when Paolo wasn’t ethical today is crazy
based on what?
Did you not watch Paolo today?
I did, he was driving to the basket and drawing contact
Thibs would break Johnathon Isaac 😂
Jonathan Isaac has ironically been the pinnacle of health for this team for a year or so
Ship of ThIsaac. If you replace all his broken parts, you get a brand new, not quite as good, Jonathan.
That’s cause Isaac is so fucking dumb he’s trying to faith heal his injuries away when running his fake preacher hustle.
I would hate for Thibs to haunt my boys like that. Bing Bong!
So after they fire the coach, who will they inevitably choose between.. Franz or Paolo?
Should choose Franz, but idk if they will.
He’s simply a better player.
Paolo has been much better in the playoffs
In his 3-4 play off games?
My b I misread the stat
12 but yeah
And how has Paolo looked in the other 150+ games he played.
yeah but he’s also constantly injured. Magic should dump both and get some new stars
get some new stars
You say this like its so easy to find a star in the league.
Edit: Franz also has a career availability rate of 85.5% which is not “constantly injured”. 54 games missed out of a total possible of 373 is not “constantly injured”. Its also his 5th season in the NBA, he hasnt played enough seasons to even get a proper sample size yet.
Just walk into the All-NBA store and buy yourself one
I wonder if there any teams willing to trade a lightly used Luka Doncic for 1 singular draft pick
I mean, works for one of the teams in the league
Only took us 22 years
He missed 22 games last year (quarter of the season) and has only played in 28 games this year. Yes, he’s been constantly injured lately
“Oh, get a star? Just get a star? Why don’t I strap on my star helmet, and squeeze down into a star cannon and fire off into starland, where stars grow on starries?!”
They’re not gonna trade either of them. If they were, they wouldn’t have traded for Bane.
But if they had to, they’re gonna choose Franz. They both play the same position and he’s just better.
Exactly why they should trade one of them because Bane is actually good, get some assets back and make a better team that fits together instead of this bullshit lol
I agree with you, just saying that the whole reason of trading for Bane was to see if they just needed a little push to be great.
I don’t think this is true at all lol. They traded for bane thinking they could contend for the east. They’ve ended up being a lot worse than they anticipated. They’ve been so bad I think they’ll definitely consider a semi big move outside of Just firing the HC. It’s not necessarily a guarantee but I don’t get how you can be this off the mark and not consider it with how much the traded for Bane.
our FO is stupid though and we very rarely make moves, we hold players until all of their value has depleted and we need to give up picks to get off their shitty contracts ie Cole Anthony & KCP last year or WCJ, JI & Goga nowadays
huh? bane is a max player that they paid 4FRP+swaps for. they should’ve envisioned him as a 2nd star at least and it fits him.
Franz is a SF
They’re both forwards. They’re trying to replicate the Celtics formula of having two 1A 1B superstar, well-rounded forwards but it’s just not happening.
That’s why Paolo is the one that people want out, he’s not well-rounded enough
Franz can reliably be used as a wing on defense (he can guard other wings) and offense (he has a much better off-ball and slashing game) in ways that Paolo can’t.
First they need a coach who is competent on offense and the starters to be healthy so they can actually evaluate the players in an offensive system.
Neither. The idea is to give another coach a chance to make it work before blowing anything up.
I dont understand people saying Franz, he has been constantly injured and dissappears in big games and clutch moments.
Paolo has his issues but is more durable and shines in the playoffs and has been the better clutch performer
Franz efficiency hasn’t been that great either
Oh, damn. A real answer.
Twice in the last month he’s essentially called him out post game
How about you adjust your dumb ass literally F tier shot selection, you’re on year 4 my guy and have the efficiency of a 6 foot guard
He can certainly clean his whole game up. His dribble is not good, he doesn’t haven’t the conditioning to get any lift on his jumper after he puts some dribble combos together so he always hits front rim, he still fades away after backing guys down on the block, often guys much smaller than him.
All that said, a large portion of the offense is give it to him and have one pick and then 3 guys just stand around and watch. There are very few guys in the league that can have success in the position that the coaching staff puts him in. Nobody cuts, nobody comes off picks weak side to have open shots, it’s just like get him the ball and figure it out. For several years now
Little whispers about Paolo’s efficiency/shot diet started making some rounds last season, and it’s snowballed like crazy this season.
I don’t love his style of offense to be completely honest, but I think the criticism has gone way too far. I would definitely be looking at changing up the coaching before choosing between Paolo or Franz. You give skilled guys with size a looong leash in this league.
League’e average efficiency is almost 58% TS. He is at 55,6%.
Brunson standing at his 6 foot nothing is more efficient than 6’10 guy.
Paolo simply dribbles himself into terrible shots and struggles to finish around rim. His finishing around rim is worst than lot of 6’3 guards who can’t dunk in traffict.
Guy is shooting 33% from mid range. Here’s solution= don’t take 25% of all your shots from spots you suck at?!
Just watch 1 magic game, he doesn’t dribble himself into bad shots we have next to no offball movement even bane and Franz have to do the same shit with the ball it’s actually disgusting hoops to watch
You realize that they all play in same system and Franz has 59,1% TS, Moe has 63%, Bane 61%, Carter 60%, freaking Jase Richardson, a rookie has 57,3% and yet, Paolo is below 56% ?
His low efficiency is direct result of him taking dumb, bad shots. Level of difficulty of those shots is indeed hard, but one of the problems is that he still takes lot of them even when he isn’t forced to do so.
Paolo’s biggest problem is finishing around rim. It has nothing to do with coaching or anybody else but him. Once you realize Jalen Suggs standing at his 6’3 is better finisher around rim than 6’10 Paolo, you will soon figure out where problem starts and ends. Matter of fact Paolo is among league’s worst finishers around rim on high volume. People here are just fanboys and don’t understand basketball all that much, and it’s fine. There is a reason why so many experts and non- Magic fans, on serious forums find Banchero overrated. His efficiency has been poor ever since college.
None of those guys have the defense key in on them the way Paolo does though. He draws a constant double on every drive - which makes it all more perplexing that the coaching staff can’t figure out a motion offense that benefits from Paolo’s magnetism when he barrels into the paint
And yet Magic have way better offensive rating when he sits lol
Again, a freestyle offense that is 75% ISOs will do that to you
Without being inside I’d put more of the blame on coaching and roster bc like you said it’s been years of this same rerun. If he’s truly a number one guy a new coach should make an immediate impact. But yea a lot of it is on him. I’m always so relieved when we play that he doesn’t run downhill more and use his size
Well that’s another thing, he’s not the best finisher at the rim right now either.
But he is rebounding really well, and he’s playing hard defense.
He just doesn’t look like he’s getting the lift he used to. If you watch him at Duke and rookie year, he moved a lot better. Doesn’t look like he’s put on a lot of weight or anything, I really do wonder if his oblique injury is lingering.
Idk, I’m just ready to see a coaching staff that knows what they’re doing before I write him off. He’s not the only one, not many people on that roster have improved under mosely. Suggs has turned into a negative, Wendell has always been a disaster, Franz can’t stay healthy (not anyone’s fault). Anthony black has taken a nice step but he’s really it.
His jumper is awful, he shouldn’t settle for them and take that many, he is literally one of the worst overall jumpshooters in the NBA
He isn’t the first star to have awful spacing and not a great offensive team, as a star you figure it out and you don’t shoot so badly and have awful shot selection
His passing is very good, he can playmake so it’s not like he is selfish but just dumb
His poor dribbling is the reason he settles for jumpers. In order to drive to the rim and finish you need control of the ball. When he feels his handle coming loose, he picks the ball up and takes a midrange shot for fear of turning it over
> it’s not like he is selfish but just dumb
Have said it before about him. Seems harsh but he’s just not a smart player and it’s why I think his development has been and will continue to be limited. Bad coach or not he has had ample opportunity at this point to take the reigns but he hasn’t. Continuous braindead shot selection and decision making can only be coached to a degree.
Agree on the playmaking. Hes creative in his passing, but needs guys to throw it to, and sadly probably more confidence that they’ll hit the shot when he does. The bigs on this team outside of mo Wagner have no hands, when Carter catches it down low he brings it to the floor everytime before going back up.
And again the dribble needs to tighten up to really make him a threat as a playmaker. You’re right though, definitely things he can do to make himself, and his team, better.
But why is franz more efficient
He needs to work on his finishing, his % around the rim isn’t great atm. He definitely has the power to do it.
He shot 50% from the field this game, clearly coming from playing under his coach at Duke he seems frustrated that there’s no offensive system or plays being run, which would also help explain his development (or lack thereof) in shot selection when teams double or triple team him whenever Desmond Bane is not on the floor beside him sense Magic is overall still a below average 3 pt shooting team (even with Bane).
I had no idea he was 6’10 at first…and he plays so small. Not the best #1 pick.
How does he play small? He is averaging almost 9 rebounds and is one of the league leaders in free throws. He took 16 tonight.
Do you think anyone commenting here actually watches Orlando games?
If you notice its Knicks fans always talking the most shit as if their franchise hasn’t been a literal shit hole for decades
I’ll talk shit about Paolo all day long since you magic fans gave me shit about saying Cade was better than Paolo last year
i saw magic let kd go one on one with tristan in the final possession earlier this season and knew that coaching staff was cooked. no help nothing. just let him cook in the middle.
Fire Mosley
I feel bad for this kid. He’s clearly miscast as a #1 option, maybe even as a #2 option, but he’s going to spend his whole career trying to be that person and being mocked and failing as a result. He reminds me of Aaron Gordon, who also played for the Magic and didn’t win shit until he moved to Denver and was able to play in a role that his talents were absolutely made for.
Glad someone else is pointing out the parallels between Banchero and Gordon’s stint with the Magic. For the record, I like both players, I think Banchero at his best is an overall superior player between the two, but both have been placed in shitty situations playing with the Magic. Aaron Gordon actually had entire stretches of injury-plagued seasons where he had to be the primary ballhandler, bringing the ball past half-court and initiating the offense, and then have to defend the best player on the opposing team when turned around on defense. Unless you are a top 5 player, that’s just not a feasible gameplan.
Banchero has had to shoot 3s on a bad offense because he literally was one of the better three-point shooters last season, and the numbers weren’t even that good. Tonight, Banchero had to be the one initiating the offense because without Wagner, he’s actually the best passer on the team. Banchero is at his best on the paint, playing bullyball, being a rebounding threat. But during this season, he’s having to play away from the paint and has to be the one trying to find the open men to shoot uncontested shots.
The injuries force him to play in spots he’s not fully comfortable in, the offense continues to disappoint as the shooting is poor and the offensive schemes/plays are almost non-existent, and the coaching AND medical staff of the Magic are absolutely subpar and not built to take this current roster to the next level.
don’t worry, $250 000 000 in bank helps you cope
Am I overreacting or is this basically throwing Mosley under the bus?
In a game where has 9 turnovers. The delusion is unreal
Paolo’s awful efficiency and turnovers might also be part of the problem.
the have no one but him to run the Offense the team has no PG
Ouch
Magic coached by Raheem Morris?
Suddenly giving their best rebounder, screener and rim protector (Goga) DNPs doesn’t help, either.
Been there, Paolo
he gone (mosley)
Mose has to go
He had 9 turnovers btw
Anthony Davis weeks before Pockets was fired
When the guy dominating the ball has 2 assists and 9 turnovers you can’t possibly win.
Paolo you coughed it up 9 times bro….but go ahead and pass the blame….oops! another turnover
Remember when people were saying he’s better than Randle? Yeah no, he doesn’t have the drive to improve, career loser
I was at that game. He plays like ass. As soon as he gets the ball the play is dead and he just jacks up a shot. And he like jogs everywhere. Cade just moves around and actually plays
The absolute audacity to say this after the game he played is kinda insane.
They have no PG or person to shoot 3’s other than bane. Suggs took 14 3’s tonight, what would you like Paolo to do with this kind of team. He asked for a PG 2 seasons ago and still nothing so to me at this point he should tell everyone to kick rocks
”…and I haven’t adjusted my game since leaving college.” Banchero continued (in his mind).
Yikes. (but we all know they need to looking a taker for Paolo soon, so)
Spoken like a great leader. Sarcasm, for the people in the back.
Remember when everyone and their mother was picking the magic to finish ahead of the pistons 😂