Shaq & Chuck on Nikola Jokić’s Reaction to Lu Dort’s Intentional Trip
Chuck is 100% right. Once you’ve been injured and know how shitty that whole process is and someone does something that could re-injure you you’re ready to kill them.
I actually respect players for not getting crazy about stuff like this more. This happens in a pickup game, someone’s getting knocked out because like what the fck are you doing
That’s a good point. I would never do something like that to someone because I would expect, maybe not the first time, but eventually there would be a fight.
There would be a fight the first time.
I play a lot at Mosswood in Oakland and nobody gives a shit if you suck as long as you are friendly, hustle, and pass the ball a bit.
You do something like this and you might as well walk your own ass to Kaiser across the street.
Shoutout to Oakland! Haven’t played at Mosswood in a min.
I thought it would be scary the first time I went. The reality is that you can’t pull any bullshit or try to act hard. If you show up to play hoop and be chill, you are good
If you did this in pickup a lot of guys are going to skip the fight and go grab their gun from the car.
“Imma go to the car, get my other gun, shoot everbody ass!”
I’m more intrigued by the fact you’re too scared to spell out fuck.
People are getting banned for baby monkey’s name lol
Reddit is getting worse each year
I got banned from r/books for calling someone an “asshat” 🤣🤣🤣
I play pickup at my apartment complex with mostly middle aged white dudes. It’s dudes that work in accounting or office management that just want to get some shots up on the weekend to stay active. We barely call fouls unless it’s really egregious and I’d say 9⁄10 times the person committing the foul calls it anyway. There’s rarely any arguments about anything.
If someone did some shit like this there would be a fight immediately.
This is a great point
100%
This shit will get you kicked and kicked off the court.
and leg injuries for these guys equal actual years shaved off their careers, if not career ending entirely in some cases. intentionally tripping is a real scum bag move
Case study–jaden Ivey
Just a damn shame
Cole Anthony cried after hurting Ivey then proceeds to keep diving after the ball. Hope he doesn’t get resigned what a punk
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I’m pretty tall and have a long term foot injury from a work place accident and wouldn’t wish this shit on anyone much less guys even taller than me who jump for a living man its no joke at all.
Joker also isn’t a small guy that can recover and come back the same at his size a leg injury can be career ending
His example is accurate as well. There are hard unintentional fouls that happen when making basketball plays. A drive to the basket, battling for a board, defensive play, etc
What Dort did was a dirty cheap shot no where near the ball or a basketball play.
My weekend warrior moment is exactly this. I tore my ACL from an unintentional bump. When I healed and got back to playing, someone intentionally pushed me from behind on a layup and I lost my shit. I had never reacted like that on the court before.
And the body contact isn’t that big of a deal. It’s dorts intentional trip that is going too far
Moreso because it was at the leg that was just injured… I honestly expected Joker to swing at Dort
Been there with a bad ankle sprain, and yeah, that immediate rage when someone even comes close to reinjuring it is so real.
Recent injury or not, it’s a cheap ass non-basketball play. Totally get what they’re saying: basketball is physical and players will get struck and take some wacks. Notice that Steven Adams is rough AF and hardly gets into these altercations because players know he’s playing basketball.
What Dort tried to pull is incredibly cheap and doesn’t fit into the context of the game at all. And Jokic is right for getting in his face and letting him know that he won’t be punked.
Vince Carter trying to rip Bruce Bowens head off after he undercut him again on a jumpshot after he destroyed his ankle.
“I don’t mind touching guys up.” - Charles Barkley. This one will get added to the list of hilarious things he has said.
“Them young guys coming”
Legendary
They got them big Ole women down there
The concern on his face when he says it lol
When a guy’s banging you…
Them damn New York dicks
Ugh…. c’mon
What a classic!
“I’m kind of juggling two balls here”
Nbacirclejerk going to feast on this clip
“I believe in touching guys up”
“When a guy is banging you and tou feel his body…” Favorite Chuck quote
“I was in a steam room with a guy…”
We all gon’ get touched up
“I believe in touching guys” just a few seconds later to really double down on it too
I was waiting for the guys reaction upon hearing that lol
Love how Shaq and Ernie reacted in sync when Chuck said that. Another woah, time out moment.
Furthermore: “I believe in touching guys up”🙏
I thought shaq was gonna break. Kinda impressed
Just the other day he talked about the “New York dicks”
Jokic just came back from a knee injury, that dirty play could’ve been disastrous
As always with things like this, we are just waiting until a superstar gets injured by a dirty play to do something about it. Dort is gonna injure Wemby for a season, then the entire league is gonna talk about it, then the next player that tries something like that will be banned for the season. It’s like the Cavs court when Luka almost got injured. But they didn’t do anything after that other guy tore his ACL last season
All good points–just like Kawahi’s injury
Was gonna say this. A dirty play to Kawhi changed his whole career, and the spurs franchise forever.
tbf, spurs probably still paying the karma debt for bruce bowen.
What’s stopping some team’s players from retaliating on SGA too?
This is why hockey had/kind of still has enforcers.
“If you’re gonna come at and beat up on our star we’re gonna beat and come on your star.”-Barkley probably
I think every sport has this. I remember a championship team I was on in soccer, we had this guy in the midfield who out of the 11 was the 11th best player but zero chance we win the title without him. Dude was like a pitbull out there. If anyone from the other team touched an attacking player he’d be elbow checking them on the next play.
He’s in prison now but man I’m glad he was there for the team.
You would hope morality, empathy, and basic human fundamentals that some of these players lack
is it moral or psympathetic to not retaliate in some way and wait for dort to actually injure someone?
I’d be all for someone retaliating on Dort, makes no sense to retaliate on SGA though.
All for one and one for all, part of your team, bet he isn’t doing it in practices so the other people in his team should call him out, especially as earlier this season every thinder player wanted to open their mouths constantly.
I agree, I don’t want anyone trying to hurt anyone else. That said, Shai as the leader of the team has some responsibility to tell Dort to cut that shit out, it is an embarrassment for the entire team. To be clear though, I do not think this means it’s fair game to go after shai
Sports don’t work like that. Baseball if you hit our best player, we’re not coming after your 8 hitter. Hockey you have to answer the bell or your star is getting head hunted. You can’t have the worst player on the team taking out the best player in the league and expect the only retaliation to be that Dort gets fouled hard. And Shai has to know that and put a stop to it.
Respectfully, I disagree, there is a wide range of cultures across different sports - so I don’t think its accurate to make such a broad statement like Sports dont work like that.
That said, it seems like we are in agreement that Shai bears some responsibility - I just do not think that is justification for someone else trying to intentionally hurt him
We all know Dort does this his own team knows. if OKC wants to bring back 1970s style pro ball that means everyone is fair game. butttt this is why the league can’t let this slide and needs to preemptively shut it down before a star is injured, like we have it on camera ffs. no excuses for bush league shit that is harmful to the product and potentially literally harmful to other players.
They come for your best, you go for theirs.
It’s the most logical move. No one cares about Dort, but they do about SGA.
Nothing, but the thunder win that trade. A hurt jokic is much more disastrous than a hurt dork
You think the nba is going to ban anybody when they had people like draymond green kicking Steven Adams in the nuts and pat bev destroying westbrooks leg for years and didn’t do shit to them
Bruce Bowen literally high kicking Steve Nash in the face, Ron Artest’s career.
Yup, reminds me of Draymond - wild behavior for years then punches a teammate in practice and everyone is surprised pikachu face like who saw this coming
If Dort takes out Wemby in San Antonio, the fans may not let him make it to the airport. Ever watch the border crossing scene in “Sicario?”
They didn’t do shit when Dort undercut Ja Morant in Game 3 of their playoff series. Grizz were up 20 and after Ja went down, they lost the game and went down 0-3. Fuck Dort forever.
Yep, Vince Williams with the Jazz tore his ACL a couple of games ago on a similar play. Hip check away from the ball, knocked him off balance, knee bent in ways it is not meant to. Doesn’t take much.
Imagine Jokic missed award eligibility and SGA won because of that.
Thats what he was hoping for.
Yeah. His reaction is valid.
Unless the NBA sends a message and suspends Dort, he’s going to keep doing this bullshit until he succeeds in injuring a superstar. He’s tried it with Luka, Wemby, now Jokic. Absolutely disgusting behavior.
They wont. Lu dort was going after Lukas injured knees and ankles in the playoffs over and over and no action was taken.
It was so bad in that series. And it was worse in person. Dort did so many things off camera away from the ball to just constantly go after Lukas knee. It seemed like it was always on his mind to take every opportunity to go at his knees.
He actually has injured stars before, he’s definitely come close with Luka, Wemby, and Jokic but he took Ja out of the playoffs last year and has also cost Booker and others games.
Also injured Paul George.
Ruined that Clippers season. Fuck Lu Dort.
Before I start, I agree with you. This asshole had been on our sub’s cut list for a while. He needs to stop acting like a prick on the court. IHart on on Jamal I believe was a clumsy hand check and he doesn’t have a history of being dirty. Dort needs to be suspended.
That said, someone said that Draymond was an “ethical dirty player” in the game thread and I think we need to reevaluate what basketball fans think “ethical” means.
Whoever said that was being outlandish about Draymond bro. I wouldn’t sweat that dumbass take
your whole sub was acting surprised why Dort was ejected & basically defending it
Why can’t we have a conversation about how dirty Dort is without someone always bringing up Draymond… whataboutism shit needs to stop, it’s always you OKC fans wanna do this shit… you support a dirty fucking player by bringing up another dirty fucking player… I know your education system is not that good but can you please try to focus on one topic at a time?
He was doing it the entire finals. Him and Caruso are dirty
Then they take the lightest contact on offense and flop for a foul.
“I don’t mind touching guys” -Chuck
“When a guy is banging you”
“The Dicks”
“I got this from a guy in the steam room”
And you can feel his body
“Speaking of coming”
r/nba: we need more serious discussions and x’s and o’s analysis
also r/nba: hurr durr he said touching guys 🤪🤪
the dickotomy of man
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“I believe in touching guys”
I’m gettin touched up right now, and loving it! 😏
Being Physical and tough is different from playing dirty. Unfortunately a lot of people don’t understand it, unless someone is hurt.
This is what people seem to confuse about hard nosed basketball and being dirty.
Lu was doing this intentionally and wasn’t an attempt play basketball but fuck jokic up if possible
I swear they speak this way on purpose. Also, I’m glad Shaq maintained some continuity with his take on this, although I disagree.
I can’t prove it but I think they have bets off-screen to get guys to say specific phrases on the telecast.
By god is that Kalshi’s music I hear ?
Right? Feels like they’re leaning into their characters sometimes. Shaq’s stubbornness is almost impressive at this point.
Always assuming someone has dirty intentions might be more annoying then the person purposely using innuendo all the time. First you don’t always have proof they are doing it on purpose unless they admit it or have a tell.
It’s better to just ignore it.
That wasnt touching someone up. That wasnt being physical. That was a cheap shot attempt at an injury.
Glad Chuck called him out on it. There’s a pretty clear line between playing physical and even giving a hard foul on purpose and playing straight up dirty.
the triple whammy of a hip check, elbow to the ribs, and tripping is honestly kinda unreal, they gotta come up with some kind of dirty play scorecard for how many of these you can fit into one cheap shot
At the knees, which aren’t coming back at Jokic’s age.
And hes also fresh off a month long injury in that area.
Exactly, trying to trip someone like that is just dangerous and has no place in the game.
All ima say is teams should make OKC feel them fouls in the playoffs.
They’re gonna get the whistle anyway 🤷♂️might as well play them like grown ass men
Yup. If you’re going to get called for the foul then you might as well earn it.
Really need them n the pistons then
Suspend Dort for the rest of the season. He’s not slick and has been intentionally trying to injure/has injured players long enough
If Jokic got hurt Dort would’ve just handed SGA the MVP by playing dirty. League actually needs to consider what that would do to their integrity and come down hard.
You should always come hard when touching up dudes goes this far
Dort’s been walking that line for a while now, and this one was way too obvious to ignore. The league needs to send a real message before someone gets seriously hurt.
Dort is a dirty mfer. Stop it
Does anyone like OKC?
ESPN (not Inside guys) seemingly. It’s actually kinda baffling given how they normally talk about small markets. I think they’re hoping for another dynasty ala GSW?
Nope.
Doris Burke
I didn’t even notice the trip on the other clips. Thought it was just the hip check. Dort is dirty as fuck.
Yh no defending Lu here. Jokic reaction was fair. Just think he went after the wrong guy lmao
Its because Williams came in and got in the way
lol more like the wrong guy jumped in front of jokic’s face when he did go after Dort
What pisses me off the most is how Dort jumps up and down like it’s not a foul. What universe does he live in
Draymond does the same thing. It’s infuriating. Like dude, there’s cameras. We can see the shit you did. You got caught, stop acting like a 5 year old and move on.
Shaq a clown for that acting like he wouldn’t (and didn’t) go at guys that went at his knees like that. Dirt is pure filth, that appeared to have had injurious intent.
I don’t mind either
Lu Dort has a long history of injuring people.
Ain’t the 1st time. Ain’t the 2nd time. Dort needs to be suspended for 20 years.
I love Charles and the New York Dicks.
Knows Jokic can only miss 1 more game so trying to knock him out of the race so SGA can win MVP
Dort needs a call from silver that says I’ll rip your contract up if you do that again.
he needs to be suspended for ten games as a start
My family is from Montreal and I am so excited about all of the Canadian talent in the league. I ride hard for all the Maple hooper. BUT LU DORT IS A PIECE OF SHIT WHO PLAYS TO HURT GUYS
No one on OKC is man enough to tell Dort to stop with the extra shit. Cowards
Karma is coming for Lou Dort
That was dirty af
What does this dirty bum never get suspended?
I’ve been watching the NBA since around ‘76. Dort is one of the very few players in that time who if he were to be seriously injured I would celebrate.
Non basketball play, cheap shot, dirty, potential for injury. Why does Shaq insist on making horrible takes at every opportunity.
Anyone wanna talk about Dort’s sociopathic history
I BELIEVE IN TOUCHING GUYS UP
This is when you bring a 0/0/0 bench warmer to absolutely body slam dorts ankles.
Or to drag a leg on Shai…. That shit will stop real fast if people are coming for their stars too.
Lu Dort is a terribly dirty player
Shaq trying clean up that dirty play to physicalness? What an idiot.
The contact was light but its just so unnecessary, at the very least leave it until your in the half court running plays/playing defense.
Chuck didn’t even say a damn thing with all those words. 😂
Yeah I mean this isn’t a basketball play at all. This literally had no purpose other than to hip check or injure. That’s insane
Genuinely the NBA needs to start suspending Dort for multiple games every single time he does some shit like this. It’s a consistent pattern of him blatantly attempting to injure other players.
Classic Shaq using every opportunity he has to shit on the great bigs of today. Big man, big ego
It was an intentionally dirty play. Jokic is just running up the court and Dort decided to back trip him for no reason. Thunder were doing low key bull shit all night but that was the most blatant. And then Dort jumping around acting like he didn’t do anything. You body bang someone in the post and give them a little chicken wing, fine but that? Especially after coming back from injury? Hell no. Jokic reacted correctly. He didn’t go too far and let them know that you have one more time to do something like that and it’s going to get really ugly in here.
The hip to hip is not just “touching someone up.” fuck Lou dort.
it wasn’t the hip to hip, it was the trip. If it was hip to hip Jokic would have been mildly inconvenienced
Shaq rarely makes a solid point, he refers to himself as the authority on everything but Chuck actually makes more sense. Hard fouls and intense play is great, tripping a guy that just came back from a knee injury is not good sportsmanship. Jokic had fire in his eyes but is smart enough to get in Dort’s face with his hands down. Glad to see some restraint, unlike the Detroit/Charlotte fiasco
Jokics last injury put him out of the MVP race. That is money that he is losing. Reasonable that he is upset, especially on a non-basketball dick move
It wasn’t even just a check. What he did with his foot is what makes it dirty and worthy of the flagrant 2. You can see in the zoomed in shot the he was trying to jam our jokics feet
When are they just gonna call Dort out for being a dirty player? Joker did really well holding back against the smaller man but he got to it with someone his own size.
Common Chuck W
Joker the Serbian hit man……
I’m 100% with Jokic. I’m 39 now and I can tell you younger ballers that you have no idea how bad and final an injury can be once you’re past a certain age. One injury leads to another via compensation or simply sitting out for too long leading to issues with inactivity. When someone plays dirty, they are quite literally risking the whole rest of your playing career and health just to gain a little advantage. Playing hard has nothing to do with playing dirty. Often it’s the lazy players that play dirty to make up for their laziness. Dirty players need to be heavily punished to stop them from this shit.
They really need to find a better way to phrase it than “touch guys up” lol
Chuck must’ve been hitting that weight loss drug hard.
Yeah, he looks sickly
As unintentionally hilarious as chuck’s opening line is, he’s right
Injured my Achilles and in my 30s. If someone tries a cheapshot on my upper body, am doing the same thing next trip down.
If someone does it on my legs. I am having the same reaction as jokic.
That shit is serious. Fuck basketball, I need my legs for my lifely hood.
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100% with Chuck. Shaq is so low iq that it hurts.
I wouldn’t mind if someone gave Dort a season or even career ending injury. Get this clown out of the league…
Agreed. Dort didn’t do anyone wild like stomp on him, but hip checked him on purpose coming off an injury. Joker was warranted to react the way he did 100% in my opinion. I think Williams felt the need to jump in but don’t think he’s a defender of the behavior, it’s just his teammate. But I get Joker’s reaction.
Shaq jealous of Joker and loves Mrs_Sykes95
HOKC.
Shaq is so wrong about this. I don’t disagree about the physicality and slowing guys down going up court; but that was a fucking hip check….
There’s playing physically, and there’s cheating. They’re different things despite what dirty players would have you believe
i dont get it, chuck basically agrees with Shaq and what jokic did. Why did he say he disagreed with it?
Dort needs to be suspended for a substantial amount of time. And there is a lot of video evidence in other instances to this kind of shenanigans
So much touching up in this convo.
Honestly, this is why Shaq has the rings and Chuck doesn’t. Discipline to know when to stop and keep the energy positive for your team. I’ll give Chuck this, at least he isn’t saying he wouldn’t do it, bc he did do it. But, he hasn’t learned that it wasn’t the right thing to do. Nothing good would have come out of Joker hitting that guy for Joker or his team. Chuck still missing that pt.
Fuck OKC