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Spicy as fuck

4 in the top 100 too

Happy for Kon, but he really shouldn’t be ahead of Lamelo lol

He should be higher in my opinion

Have you considered factoring in “lol 4 picks for BANE lol Magic stupid dummies” in here?

The flagrant fouls will continue until the Ringer list improves

Welcome to the show.

At first grizz fans laughed because Bane was like 10 spots higher after the trade than before, I guess he had to rinse the ‘fine in the west’ off him but now he’s back to where he’s normally around.

Now that they’re done making fun of Memphis they probably re-normalized his ranking, but i still think he’s underrated in the context of the list.

He had a rough year or two. He’s dangerous when healthy. Redemption year.

Lebron isn’t here for a good reason.

Steph is largely the reason the warriors have a winning record. Same as jokic.

You have to respect their skill sets still. 

If im trying to win a game tomorrow - I take curry 100% over all those guys except for maybe Brown

Curry has played 3 fewer games than Jokic, who is one on the list. I would probably have Cade and Spida over him but the other guys are debatable.

You clearly haven’t watched Curry this year. He has been really good. I do think that Kawhi, Steph, Cade, Brunson, and Mitchell could be switched in any order and the list would make sense.

You are probably biased because last year he put up a few stinkers that got headlines, and was not as good overall as he is this year, but since Jimmy got traded to the Warriors he’s been a top 10 player.

This warriors team without Steph curry is maybe a 17 win team. He is the epicenter of everything they do and the biggest floor raiser in the league still - give Steph a roster that’s even close to the other guys in the top 15 (except maybe Giannis) and you’d see great results. The one time the past 5 years he had a top 30 teammate, they were up on the wolves in the second round before he pulled his hammy. I’m not mad if you have Dmitch and Brunson ahead of him but he is 1000% still a top 10 player in the league

Do you have anything to support your claim? If it’s just feelings that’s pretty meaningless to discuss.

So sweet.

Personal opinion. At least right now with how Julius has been playing, I consider Rudy a better player than him.

To me Gobert #38 is the biggest wiff on this list. If you’re talking about who wins an NBA team games, there are not 20 players better than Gobert in the league. Ofc you need a first option / ball handler / volume scorer to pair with him, but those are much more aplenty than all time great defenders that guarantee you a 45 win+ season. Jokic, Luka and Giannis need complimentary players around them too. Doubly so since this list seems to take player health into account and he plays 70+ games a season to me he should be top 20.

Actually maybe Beef Stew, a top 10 defender in the league, being #96 below the likes of Cam Johnson and Demar Derozan who are straight up losing players this season is worse.

KAT over Gobert is big “yay points” evaluating style, tbh.

It’s because he’s OFS

I’m gonna get shit for this but

For me, he is not my top 100 for players I want to win meaningful basketball games with

Not good enough as a 1-2 for how much he needs the ball, and bad defender in the most important defensive position

I struggle to create a real team around him that can win

Giannis hasn’t won a playoff series in like 4 years. Can Giannis win a playoff series too?

Nope, thanks.

It’s based on current ability not past prowess…which of the three is more likely to make the second round this year lol

I hate the playoff thing, it’s so boring.

Jdub over Embiid… the ringer has always had a problem with him for some reason

Unironically, just ringer things

Lack of availability

Spurs up there too, tho I think steph should be higher

Wolves have 7 which is dope

Murray is having a career year.

Nuggets are also stacked with amazing role players like Christian Braun, AG, Cam Johnson, and Peyton Watson.

making sure his wallet is in a good environment

If Giannis was healthy he’s probably 3rd. So the penalty here for missing games seems to be 2 or 3 spots which seems reasonable to me considering his injury isn’t a major one.

I guess they are ranking based on individual talent, not necessarily considering how their team/season has been going like we do in the MVP race.

Same reason Street Clothes is in the 30’s with like 20 games played, reputation.

Oh but didn’t you know castle can’t shoot

Amen’s playing the 2nd most minutes in the league on the 3rd best team in the west. He’s currently got the 6th best odds to win DPOY

Amen might be the worst shooter in the league, yet he still has a better TS% than Castle. His advanced stats across the board are better than Castle’s. He’s doing this while being made to play out of position on a roster with janky construction

I’m not gonna say Amen is far and away the better player. But for you to say it’s laughable that he’s ranked above Castle at all is pure bias

Hes should be higher no way Paolo is better

He’s 26th in scoring this year 

He’s behind the reigning MVP, a 3-time MVP and the two-way monster, best player on the third best team in the league who has beaten the two best teams in the league 5 times this season.

Also one of the GMs you’re criticizing is currently the only dude who has put a Finals team around Luka and the major criticism is that Luka was robbed of his chance to win the title with the team he built for him. The other won a NBA title and went to a WCF despite Darvin Ham as coach which Im told should be impossible so Im assuming the roster was pretty good.

You guys take these complaints too far. This is hardly the disrespect you want it to be.

Chet is the Charmeleon to Wembys Charizard.

Level below on defense, slightly below in scoring (more efficient but 7ppg lower.)

The better Wemby looks, the better Chet looks, but when you see the stark difference when they play on the same court, the gap becomes clear.

Everyone above him can create his own shot and win you a game by themselves. I think Chet has an argument as the best “supporting player” in the league, but team success is doing a ton of heavy lifting here - 20s seem fair. 

If anythingh chet gets pretry underated these days 

He is a defensive cheat code who can score you 20 ppg efficiently and space the floor as a center or power forward

That kind of player is unvaluable even if they are not a lead playmaker/scorer

Worst part about the list

Top 5 is locked and I think ant is better than kawhi right now, although kawhi is having an amazing season

It’s kind of like the sports world version of a coffee table book: You put it out there to stimulate conversation for those that are interested.

It’s fun and has no concrete answer so you can debate it endlessly.

Keeps the four letter network alive

How is ant overrated? You don’t think 6 is a fair spot? Who should be above him?

I think he is, but if he misses 1 more game, he’s not.

Yes

Implying that you could make a list that didn’t get people arguing lmao

As always this is one of the first comments made. Truly is like clockwork

Out of all the popular top 50 lists that get posted, the ringer is probably closest to what the reddit consensus is in comparison to other major ball media (which is a low bar to pass to be sure).

Jalen Green has only played like 5 games this season. I think he was omitted because of lack of play time. It’s the same reason Haliburton is not on the list.

Lebron’s placement isn’t too bad but I think Sengun might be the most overrated player in the league. I watch a lot of rockets games because it’s KD’s twilight and I just don’t see him as a top 30 player, especially recently.