[Highlight] Replay of Cade Cunningham shoving Stephon Castle to the ground and standing over him. Technical foul assigned to Keldon Johnson & Jalen Duren. None for Cunningham
Bullshit that he wasn’t given a technical
Cade is the new golden boy. Refs make calls based on reputation.
But he apparently doesn’t get calls like the other “Floopers”
He definitely does not
It’s all relative. In a vacuum, SGA doesn’t get a lot of FTs for the amount of drives he does either. The issue is when on the other side of the court, their defense is mauling people without calls, so it looks bad whenever he gets anything.
It’s the same issue with Cade. When the Pistons are basically turning the game into a wrestling match under the philosophy of “they can’t call everything,” it shouldn’t be a surprise that he doesn’t get many calls compared to players on “softer” teams. Relative to the physicality of the Pistons games, Cade still gets a very good amount of FTs that wouldn’t be called on the other side of the court. That’s the price you have to pay to play super physical on defense, you’re increasing the threshold for what’s considered a foul.
When the Pistons are basically turning the game into a wrestling match under the philosophy of “they can’t call everything,” it shouldn’t be a surprise that he doesn’t get many calls compared to players on “softer” teams. Relative to the physicality of the Pistons games, Cade still gets a very good amount of FTs that wouldn’t be called on the other side of the court.
That’s what seems so baffling to me. You saw Spurs players getting pushed and hacked but there were no whistles. Then you expect calls on the lightest of grazes? Fuck off lol.
Ya let’s be honest with ourselves. Whole lot of people tuned into this game vs the average pistons game. Im not going to pretend like I know how the refs treat Cade.
I mean he doesn’t
I’ll admit that defensively he gets called favorably but offensively he did recently drop 42 with only 3 free throw attempts against you guys lol
Yeah I probably should phrased it way better, I was just wanting to point out that he’s also allowed to get away with stuff that others are unable too.
& those 3 free throws were all bullshit! Fr they were all contact initiated by Cade in the first half before the game got out of hand if u watched the game
He definitely doesn’t. You would know if you watched the last Knicks pistons game
It’s cause this is like the first or first few incidents that have happened unlike others which have an entire highlight reel of these or different fouls
Let’s be real if he flopped like Brunson and got the same whistle he’d average over 30 PPG easily
Floop is a mad man help us save us
He does not
He also doesn’t get called for all the fouls that he commits, not nearly enough of them. Exhibit A above.
He got called for a foul on that play.
But not the tech he should have been called for
If you want to argue about techs not being called. How many flops should Brunson and Kat be given techs for?
“What about”
When he had 5 fouls last night I swear he was trying to foul out to dodge the smoke but they wouldn’t give him the 6th. He two hand shoved Wemby on a drive and I think castle in the back court for no reason
Yea cause he’s had like 8 free throws in 3 games lol
Case that’s what you’ve got enforcers for—so you don’t have to do that shit yourself.
I dunno kinda looked like Castle flopped. Dudes are always shoving each other around on the court.
Yeah didn’t look like much to me. The “standing over” looks worse because the clip is in slo-mo. Cade did a normal basketball play, perhaps a flop or probably a foul, then two others take offense and get involved. I really don’t see anything bad about this clip.
He’s the new James Harden
oh yeah, James Harden, who is famously known for losing his temper and getting away without technicals. you definitely watch basketball
KJs little shove was so tame lol, had like 10% the intensity of Cades
Yeah, he wasn’t really trying to shove cade. Just push him out of the way cus he was trying to stand over Castle. KJ shouldn’t have got a tech and if anything it should’ve been a double tech but oh well
It was a double tech. They gave a technical to Duren.
Yeah but not to the dude who started it which was pretty dumb
So personally when its tame like this and really nothing happened on either side. I like when the refs balanced out the techs. So to me its do you want to give it to Duren or Cade. Players generally react worse to the finger in face then a push. So I would give it to Duren but really just a toss up.
Some people like me really have a “justice” complex(not saying anyone specifically here besides me) and it really bothers us Cade got nothing. It just doesn’t seem fair
It is right and proper to feel the way you do. Cade, who took it too far with the aggressive shove, should have received the technical.
No basketball justice was served here.
I mean the aggression here is pretty heavily skewed coming from the Pistons side. Cade with an aggressive push that was much worse than Keldon’s push. And Duren with the finger in the face which most would agree was more aggrssive than Keldon’s push. Castle is just on the floor clapping. Duren and Cade were both more aggressive than what KJ did. No idea why the outcome of this is offsetting techs and just a normal foul for Detroit.
So Cade got the foul for his push so he was punished for it. The rules are weird if you get called for a foul then you can only upgrade that action to flagrant one or two. You cant get called for a offensive foul and a tech, unless there something after the foul. This clearly not a flagrant foul (to me at least) so really nothing the Refs can do.
KJ rides for his team. That’s love for Castle and his teammates.
I thought Cade was chill why did he push him for?
He got completely sonned by Castle that led to this. If you didn’t watch the game, you missed playoff championship game level defence from both Castle and Victor on him.
Took him tons of effort just to get by Castle, only to find Victor there in the paint. They shut him down completely.
He did it because he was getting locked up? Damn that’s kinda lame
I mean we don’t really know that, but frustration definitely could have played a role
Cade finished 5-26. I think we definitely know
There is a video of Castle’s defense on him. If you watched it, you would understand. He was all over Cade and he just couldnt get anything going this game. Honestly, should have fouled out this game.
I mean we can’t read his thoughts but it did seem like it
We’re all human.
But he said he is the best American player in the NBA?
Man you’re allowed to have bad games even while you believe you’re the best player.
This sub is gonna start shitting on the Pistons because their favorite big market team may actually be at risk now and they need to put small market fans in their place. DVE
ESPN tomorrow:
“GET CADE CUNNINGHAM IN A LAKERS JERSEY! THAT BOY IS SPECIAL, SPECIAL I TELL YOU, PERK YOU LISTENING TO ME??? I MEAN GOLLY I SWEAR YOU HAVE SLEEP APNEA, what was I talking about…?
OH YEAH, GET CADE CUNNINGHAM OUT OF DETROIT AND LETS GET HIM ON THE BRIGHTEST STAGE!! NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE PISTONS!!!!”
Spurs 🤝 Pistons 🤝 Pacers 🤝 Wolves 🤝 Nuggets 🤝 Cavs
Small market solidarity
this circlejerk is mad funny considering the kind of vitriol spewed in the game threads for almost every matchup between any of those teams lmfao
like posting ‘pistons 🤝 pacers’ and ‘wolves 🤝 nuggets’ in any unironic context is just straight up fanfiction
Happens to every team that goes from spooky to contenders. This whole thread is trashing on Cade because Pistons are actually good lmao.
Meanwhile garbage time 3’s during a losing blowout from this subs favorite sperm has people claiming he’s got potential to be a “star player”
I wish that this philosophy was actually understood. People like jokic, luka, shai get absolutely shat on by the media, fans, analysts etc for even mediocre games. Like if we are comparing cade, ant and jb to those level of players saying they deserve mvp over them we should at least hold everyone to a similar standard. Feels like even wemby gets more heat than some of these tier 2 nba stars sometimes.
“Get shat on by media, fans, analysts, etc” not coaches or players or even GMs themselves. That’s the problem today, yall discuss every damn thing into detail after every game to the point anyone plays good or bad yall dramatically over react to every fucking thing lol
Luka is on the same level as cade not with jokic and SGA
Yeah, I wouldn’t say Castle “sonned” him, but he made Cade work pretty hard and then funneled him into Wemby. They did a really good job of frustrating him, but it was really more of a team effort.
Castle was on him like white on rice the whole game
I see this style of defense on Steph sometimes. Defender is literally on him to the point of holding him and the refs dont call anything. I can see it being frustrating for the offense
Nah it is good D imo, offense has too many advantages.
No yeah, shit is infuriating but it’s perfectly legal.
At a certain point, people just want basketball to be a shooting contest lmao. He’s playing him tight. If Cade can get free, he’s got free buckets. It’s all legal
I believe this style of defense is called ‘good’.
It’s a lost art.
Castle had him on lock down the entire game, and Cade finally acted like a petulant man child and shoved. It’s pathetic really.
Why all the downvotes?? This sub has a weird hero worship thing and apparently Cade has made the list.
Shoving someone to the ground because they are playing pesky defense on you is objectively childish behavior.
Hive mind
Shhhh, that’s logic and we don’t use that here!
I said what I said…if it pisses Cade fans off then well, that’s on them.
To me Castle flopped. Cade and him were locked up like a corner on a WR and then Castle just stopped moving and let himself fall
Why are you being downvoted for stating obvious facts?
It really is. I hope this dials back all the praise he’s getting. He can bully ball, that’s about it
This is lame and you deserve to recognize that. One bad game does not mean we have to overreact and act like Cade is a “jerk” who acsuallly sucks at basketball this whole time!
You are a child yourself for acting like this, and equally pathetic
Well that’s why Steph has to run around so much and be a track star, Cade was exhausted you could tell
That is just how you guys play tho lol.
Castle is the real deal. He punked him the entire game. Dude might be the glove 2.0
Dudes looking to be kobe 2.0 with Shaq 2.0 behind him guarding the rim.
Spurs got a couple monsters over there that are young as hell
I’ll put those highlights up next
Wow. I love seeing some real defensive intensity.
The push was probably just frustration but trying to stand over him and stare him down was weird and should’ve been a tech.
Because he was getting schooled
Stephon was giving him hell and Cade got frustrated. He’s like herpes, he wont go away.
He was getting frustrated at Castle bc of his defense. Cade isn’t used to this level of D
BTA, that’s why
They were pushing all game. Highly physical. It was fun. I think the reason this looks bad is Castle actually fell down on it. But if you watch there was a lot of those of case trying to get space.
Probably said something that crossed the line
He is chill, this is all Castle’s fault for being in his way. Why would Castle do this? Is he stupid?
Honestly couldn’t believe this in the moment. That KJ and Duren got techs but the person who initiated the need for a review didn’t get a tech when he obviously committed the most egregious act.
He’s just mad that Castle held him to like 18% from the field. MVP candidate btw
This is like Rudy Gobert every game.
The guy gets constantly hit in the head nearly every game and nothing js called and when he retaliate it ends up in suspensions for him. Some he does deserve but if the refs started calling flagrant and techs on his opponents he wouldn’t have too.
Just watched jaylen brown sucker punch Reaves in the chest last game and knock him down to no call.
The gambling culture the NBA wants really does not mix with current officiating. I wouldn’t bet a dime on the NBA product.
Castle got in his head lol. Dude just clapping because he knew it too.
Same thing happened w SGA. Castle in the heads of both these MVP candidates.
Because he actually puts effort on defense and then makes them work on defense.
Yeah because Cade got his 3rd foul from it in the 2nd quarter so he had to sit. Cade definitely was frustrated.
yeah you could tell throughout the game that Cade never looked comfortable and was putting up some bad shots
Cade complains about flopping but does unnecessary shit like this. Sore loser mentality on display
Announcers: Brand of basketball that’s very physical… You can’t call all the fouls yada yada
Also them: That’s fair officiating
I’m excited for their game with OKC as it’s also a team that’s very physical, more than the Spurs, and gets away with a lot of no calls. WWE Raw vs Smack Down NBA edition.
Hell in a Cell. Dort vs Beef Stew
I’m honestly afraid of Beef Stew, I’m sorry to Piston fans but my impression of him is that he’s big fucking angry bear and if he tackles Wemby he’ll break like a twig, you gotta take care of Chet who’s just as slender lol
Man Chet nearly died when he contested Andrew Wiggins’ shot, Beef Stew might actually snap him in half lmao
Was that when he broke his hip last season. Just sub Chet out when Stew is in 😂
Unfortunately beef stew is going to be suspended for the game still
Damn that sucks, pretty sure Shai and Dub are gonna be out as well. I really wanted to watch both teams go at it with their full squads. Hopefully everyone is healthy for the game in March
Good. He’s an idiot.
lol I was going to say Cade just tried to run through him but not push him but this zoomed in shot makes it pretty obvious he did both. Wanted to run through him then pushed him once he found out he couldn’t phase through solid objects.
It’s the Cade special. He pushes off with two hands all the damn time. And then whines about not getting enough calls.
When someone has you locked up in the dungeon all game, you’d lose your cool too. lmao
Jacyn Goble is possibly one of the worst officials in the NBA. He’s literally right there watching it. Absolutely a technical on Cade.
More like Jacyn Goebbels am I right.
He must stand trial for basketball crimes against humanity
Who’s the commentator, I assume they were the Pistons home broadcast? “Honestly, that was well officiated”, what a dumbass.
George Blaha and Greg Kelser if I can use the internet correctly. Not sure which one is which.
No, national Peacock broadcast.
NBA has become such a joke
Mad coz bad moment
Lmao can you really say that about Cade though?
You could last night
And he still lost🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Over the past 3 years the Pistons have never committed a foul. Every time Cade pushes off with 2 hands it’s just a basketball play.
Salty Knicks fan lol
Follow through with both arms? No tech is wild
Detroit relies on officiating more than any other team in the association. If the game is called tight, Detroit won’t win. The same as a series
They get more fouls than any team in the league 🙄
That doesn’t change my point at all. It’s the ol’, they can’t call every foul, gameplan
If a team commits 30 fouls and gets 70% of them called, and another team commits 20 fouls and gets 100% of them called, the first team still gets called for more fouls while having a favorable whistle.
That’s Cade “MVP Candidate” for you.
Jacyn Goble and James Williams are typical examples of the poor refereeing the NBA has. That shove + taunt deserved more than an offensive foul.
Fake tough guys cosplaying the bad boys example 4000
Cade also got away with a bullshit shove on Wemby either in the late 3rd/early 4th. I didn’t see it initially but they showed a reply from the backboard camera and Cade shoved him hard as he’s coming in to follow the play.
They called that “physicality”
I’ve seen less of a shove lead to a dislocated knee.
I know I’ll get flamed for this but I’m not sure i like Cade Cunningham
I dont like cade Cunningham
Bro thinks he’s Draymond
Duren likes touching people’s faces huh? 😂
It’s hilarious in contrast to all of the techs on JT for clapping lol. NBA reffing is really just killing the league’s integrity year after year.
Cade pushed him out of frustration, but I’m surprised no one is talking about Castle putting two hands on him and grabbing him. That’s definitely not legal. Cade is in the corner – he can’t even move without attempting to move Castle.
Duren standing there like he’s tough. We just saw you back peddle in Charlotte.
It is aggressive, bully basketball played by the Pistons. It’s a worthwhile strategy to try and get a team off their game. Just don’t act outraged when the other team pushes back (literally what Johnson did). That is the definition of a bully - getting butthurt when you get it back.
A playoff caliber physical Detroit team fully of bullies?
The Pistons are back baby and honestly love to see it.
Pushing someone over because they are dominating you is hardly bullying lol
Isn’t it? Bullies are insecure losers who lack discipline and morality. Plus it’s a smaller guy
Nah Cade was getting bullied and this is throwing a tantrum
Cade and Castle are the same height
Oh my bad, thought Cade was more like 6’9 and castle was more like 6’4/6’5, not really a big size difference, including weight.
I mean they lost this game
woah they lost a game, season’s over… also has nothing to do with this guy’s comment
He said the pistons are back. On a game they lost. This subreddit is regarded.
Very highly regarded sometimes.
Have you watched any basketball this season? The Pistons are back.
The op said they were back commenting on a highlight in a game in which they lost. They’ve had a good season but they haven’t won anything yet AND THEY JUST LOST TO THE SPURS. People on this subreddit have brain damage.
So back that they lost the game.
Well… this sums up the difference between the Spurs and Pistons. You can clearly see the difference in class between those two teams 😂
That’s when you know your stardom has arrived
Weird that Duren has been involved in 3 incidents in quick succession, i was assured by Detroit fans he is a clean innocent player
frustration
Cade got that super star whistle
Are you sure he fouled you Michael? Ok personal foul on defense
Keldon Johnson getting a tech there is so weird
The NBA is a joke, they’re to inconsistent in their own play calling.
If they keep trying this hard maybe one day someone will think they are as tough as they think they are
Dirty Ass Hoe
That sounded personal. I love it
Bitch ass hoe
This game felt like it was extremely aggressive, super fun to watch, then the refs started calling Spurs for fucking any and everything. I don’t care about either team, it just seemed a bit lopsided in the 3rd and early 4th. Then they got back to letting them play, but def felt a shift second half.
What the fuck?
Steph Castle locked Cade down all game. That defense was too much.
Gucci Mane strikes again
Mans got mad for being defended
This was a good test for the Spurs. Detroit was playing an intense brand of basketball, had playoff feel. They kept their heads and put them away on a night when Wemby was struggling from the floor. This bodes well for them moving forward.
Stephon Castle has quietly matured into one of the most effective perimeter and on ball defenders while playing sensible high efficiency offense. Will probably be part of team USA in the next cycle.
putting your hands and all your weight into a player to stop them from moving isn’t defence, its sumo.
Man I wish the kings would’ve gotten Castle in the Fox trade. SC is one of my favorite players in the league. He’s been absolutely sonning the MVP candidates
Jalen Duren instigates so often man lmao its so funny that the two biggest ride or die guys in the NBA both play in the same front court
Cade 1000% was at fault and Duren still had his finger in someone’s face 😂😂 thats a good teammate
How do people fawn over the idea of “Bad Boy” Pistons and get upset when the pistons do the things they’re known for?
Seems the cade villain arc is beginning.
Seeing a lot of hate against him
Honestly I’d be annoyed as hell if I was Cade. The amount of holding that the spurs/okc do is crazy
I think when big body deserves a tech it’ll be very very clear. That is a large man who didn’t deserve a tech here. If he actually tried to push someone, it’d look a lot different than this does
Duren’s on a pretty good mean streak
Its a shame that he’s a total pussy
Why did this need a repost and slow mo lol
Because this is a better vid.
Cade puts up numbers but has a bad attitude. Tired of seeing his salty ass face
Castle grabs Cade, Cade throws off Castle. Offensive foul, move on.
I mean the pushing was happening all night, it was a physical game. And he didn’t stand over him his momentum was just carrying him
Everyone is acting like it was some malicious act. Cade was moving in that direction and stepped on Castles foot. Castle could not move with Cade so he basically bowled over him. He was not standing over him in a intimidating way, he was just standing over him because he moved in that direction when Castle fell. Cade wasn’t bullying him at all.
Welcome to big boy basketball
if you don’t like that, you don’t like detroit basketball
no one likes detroit basketball except for the people in detroit. stupid ahh franchise