dreamweaver7x | Spurs

206 | 13 hours ago

Cade 16 pts (⁵⁄₂₆, 19%), 6 rebs, 10 ast, 3 TO, 2 stl, 3 blk
Steph 16 pts (⁷⁄₁₆, 43%), 4 rebs, 11 ast, 4 TO, 1 stl, 1 blk

x_TDeck_x | Spurs

156 | 13 hours ago

does the transitive property mean that Castle is an MVP candidate now? I’m not too familiar with the rules

LobsterPotatoes | Canada

58 | 13 hours ago

I believe that’s exactly how it works

Victor_Wembanyama1 | Spurs

24 | 13 hours ago

He is now better than Luka 😉

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

50 | 13 hours ago

Castle managed to have the better double double lmfao

ShotFirst57 | Pistons

-41 | 13 hours ago

Helps when your team is shooting 45% from 3 vs 19%. Not being in foul trouble helps as well.

Suspicious_Ask_4877 | Spurs

57 | 13 hours ago

Also helps when you’re an elite defender and hold the “MVP” candidate to 19% shooting

abrokkly

24 | 13 hours ago

wah wah wah wah maybe dont hack like the spurs killed your parents and he wouldn’t have so many fouls. If cade was guarding luka like that he would foul out in the 1st quarter.

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

13 | 13 hours ago

I would know about shooting variance lol, look what just happened to us against the G-league warriors. Foul trouble is no one’s fault but the team though, your team prides itself on physical defense and fouls the most in the NBA.

acciopizza_ | Spurs

11 | 13 hours ago

Thats cause he got away with literally shoving him to the ground without a tech. A very generous whistle yet he still found himself in foul trouble.

TemperedTorture | Spurs

11 | 13 hours ago

Oh God. I wouldve thought ur fandom would be better than Knicks and OKC, but I guess not. Still the same whiny BS.

ElkFun7036 | Thunder

1 | 10 hours ago

Just wait until you talk to a timberwolves fan

nicfanz

9 | 11 hours ago

Your team assaulted wemby without any calls

tnarref | France

5 | 13 hours ago

As if Cade didn’t deserve to be in foul trouble.

Available_Poetry_685

11 | 13 hours ago

Cade did incredibly well defensively but man castle and wemby had him in jail

RealPrinceJay | 76ers

0 | 5 hours ago

Pretty impressive game from Cade otherwise I thought. I’ve always thought he was a good defender this year, but I was really impressed by him on that end tonight

Just couldn’t score from the Castle+Wemby duo that’s fucking suffocating

CatFinal5792

128 | 13 hours ago

1st team all NBA defense or we riot.

Crafty-Physics9232

-9 | 7 hours ago

He’s already locking down star guards as a rookie, that’s insane. The league better take notice.

minimalcation | Spurs

-5 | 3 hours ago

He’s in his 3rd year

Hayyes | Spurs

10 | 2 hours ago

2nd year lol

dreamweaver7x | Spurs

3 | 2 hours ago

Dude.

Victor drafted #1 2023, 3rd year
Steph drafted #4 2024, 2nd year
Harp drafted #2 2025, rookie
CB drafted #14 2025, rookie

YoungThrowaway_ | Germany

2 | 2 hours ago

2nd no?

DarkoDragicevic

-34 | 13 hours ago

Derrick White and Cason Wallace are fair competition there, Cade too

InternationalClick78 | Spurs

60 | 13 hours ago

Cade is nowhere close to the level. He’s one of the better defensive star guards up there with Shai but he’s not some elite defender

DarkoDragicevic

-34 | 13 hours ago

Easier for Castle because Wemby anchoring all and he has no so usage as Cade. I will put them close right now for defense. Castle better on ball, Cade in paint and both great rebounders

mercfan3

24 | 12 hours ago

I mean, can’t you say the opposite? That castle makes life easier for Wemby because Wemby doesn’t have the best perimeter player in the other team running at him all game?

We’ve put too much emphasis on anchoring the defense, and not enough credit to the perimeter player who defends the best player every night.

(And this isn’t Wemby/Castle specific. I think Wemby’s floor is Greatest defensive player of all time. Im just saying it’s a team game and POA defender is as important as the anchor. And Castle might be the best one in the league..just like Wemby is the best anchor in the league)

DarkoDragicevic

2 | 12 hours ago

Yess. Cade have better wing help in Ausar, Holland but there is some liability in Duncan Robinson Spurs not having in team. No, we giving credit!!! Castle is amazing!!!

InternationalClick78 | Spurs

7 | 13 hours ago

When has that ever factored into all defence teams ? Same logic applies to any two way star as opposed to any defensive specialist. You don’t get bonus defensive points for playing more offence.

And rebounding is pretty irrelevant to defence in general, let alone for guards. Countless straight defensive liabilities rack up boards.

DarkoDragicevic

0 | 13 hours ago

Rebounding is NEVER irrelevant! Interesting how always fans jumping in these discussions and passionately subjective attacking others who agree with them, but added some more context and candidates

InternationalClick78 | Spurs

7 | 13 hours ago

It’s irrelevent to defence specifically… because rebounds are about ending a posession and kickstarting the offensive possession. They’re irrelevent to whether the other team scores or not which is broadly what defence is defined as.

See notorious high level rebounders like Luka… prime harden… Westbrook… Andre Drummond… Nikola Vucevic… Kevin love… KAT… need more ?

And trying to play the victim here is absurd lmao. You made a point. I’m arguing against that point. Why are you trying to paint this as some personal attack ?

DarkoDragicevic

-5 | 13 hours ago

What are you talking that D rebounding not relevant??? Come on, do not ne dumb

InternationalClick78 | Spurs

3 | 13 hours ago

I just explained the specific reason why and gave countless examples of bad defenders with high rebounding numbers… where’s the confusion ?

DarkoDragicevic

-2 | 12 hours ago

Yeah but Cade is not bad defender so being good rebounders is extra stuff and if you read better i said they are both good rebounders and not giving advantage to him.. If i have to pick it will be Cason Wallace, Derrick White for first D team, Castle and Cade for second of guards. Numbers pretty much like that too

CourtConspirator | Spurs

88 | 13 hours ago

Castle outplayed Cade for sure, made a huge difference this game

scarywolverine | Pistons

8 | 12 hours ago

Castle played really well but Im kind of confused why hes getting most of the credit for this. In Cades first game vs Wemby he looked genuinely confused how to play offense

OrganicMechanicTTV | Pistons

6 | 12 hours ago

Because it’s a much better narrative to pile on with, especially with the ‘Cade for MVP’ overload this week.

hinghenry | Spurs

2 | 10 hours ago

Wemby still get majority of the credits, but people get numb seeing all the Wemby block/defense highlights and treated them like background stuff. Besides, Castle is amazing today based on eye test, and Wemby would have been gassed out if Castle wasn’t there.

Spare-Friendship-917 | Spurs

1 | an hour ago

Wemby is wemby and his impact is immeasurable but watching the game last night you saw how much of a headache castle is too. He a big strong aggressive guard who can keep up with pretty much anyone. You could see the frustrations on Cade that everytime he turned around castle was right there. On Cades side it has to be tiring having to push past a guy that heavy and strong every play. He even started picking him up full court. I will admit castle can only be as aggressive as he was because he has wemby behind him but he still had to put in the work.

Master-Substance-118

1 | 7 hours ago

His defensive pressure completely disrupted Detroit’s flow, and those 11 assists show he’s way more than just a scorer.

arawater | Spurs

83 | 13 hours ago

Is it crazy to say hes a top 5 perimeter defender in the league at this point? Literally putting any half court offense in hell

OriAr | NBA

53 | 13 hours ago

Top 2 and he ain’t 2

FunTailor794

-2 | 10 hours ago

Who’s your other of the 2? Ausar?

Felix_Wyn | Magic

10 | 7 hours ago

Castle, Suggs, Ausar, Amen, Cason, Caruso, Dort, Camara, White, Brooks, Daniels… there are a lot of top tier perimeter defenders in the league right now. Not sure who would be Top 2, let alone who would be Top 5. Everyone on this list is incredible defensively.

FunTailor794

3 | 7 hours ago

Yeah I agree. It’s like with top offensive players too, pretty hard to put Luka, jokic, sga, wemby, cade, brunson, ant, + more I’m forgetting in a top 5. Feel like there’s about 15 top 5 players rn

ElkFun7036 | Thunder

-5 | 10 hours ago

Cason Wallace and Derrick White bro

superrealaccount2 | Spurs

10 | 10 hours ago

I miss Derrick White every day…

LoneWolf1134 | Spurs

1 | 9 hours ago

I’m so sad we had to let the Buffalo roam :(

RealPrinceJay | 76ers

0 | 5 hours ago

I think he’s a better defender than Cason for his versatility. I like Castle a lot more in bigger matchups and he still handles smalls comparably.

I think Castle’s a better perimeter defender than DWhite but DWhite is arguably a better overall defender because he provides a weird amount of supplemental rim protection

Aggressive_Cup3022

1 | 7 hours ago

He’s definitely making a strong case for it already. The way he’s locking down primary scorers night after night is wild for a rookie.

deneuvig

1 | 3 hours ago

Not crazy. Hopefully he keeps that nasty defense as his offense grows over the years

SunKing210 | Spurs

74 | 13 hours ago

Give him 1st team all defense!

Longjumping-Chest746

4 | 7 hours ago

He’s been locking up star guards all season, honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he gets some votes.

TemperedTorture | Spurs

40 | 13 hours ago

Had him completely rattled to the point where he threw a bitchfit and shoved him, only to get clapped at in his smug ass face and completely disappeared on the floor lmfao 🤣🤣🤣

Namulp | Spurs

35 | 13 hours ago

managed to rage bait 2 mvp candidates now lmao

CourtConspirator | Spurs

10 | 13 hours ago

Lmao I can picture Shai’s face now. Never seen him crash out like that before

pr0ject_84 | Thunder

5 | 11 hours ago

Idk Jdub said something in an interview about people misinterpreting on-court interactions after being asked about that play,

I’m kind of under the impression that Shai wasn’t talking to Castle

ElkFun7036 | Thunder

1 | 10 hours ago

Masterbaiting

Practical-Bug4022

2 | 7 hours ago

That shove was pure frustration, Cade couldn’t handle the clamps at all. Dude got sonned and then just checked out mentally.

Odd-Air-5598 | TOR

32 | 13 hours ago

Just a beautiful two way performance

HereComesJustice | Spurs

27 | 13 hours ago

and rage baited Cade with the 2 handed shove, started slow but Castle had a great night

Fit-Bluejay2216

25 | 13 hours ago

Spurs have an incredible rotation and young depth pieces. They are also well coached. Should give anyone problems in the playoffs tbh

LTIRfortheWIN | Spurs

5 | 12 hours ago

I definitely agree

trickshotfaker

4 | 9 hours ago

Absolutely no way we retain Sean Sweeney. He’s gonna be a head coach next season I reckon

MisterShazam | SAS

2 | 7 hours ago

If this is true I want it to be ours. We can’t afford another Chip Engelland situation.

Kertia

26 | 13 hours ago

Dude is a dawg. He’s always up for these games vs elite guards.

ifuckwithit | Spurs

27 | 13 hours ago

Shout out Vassell too

Jec1027 | Warriors

22 | 13 hours ago

Outplayed cade

Philipthesquid | Timberwolves

21 | 13 hours ago

There was one play where Steph was locking up Cade on a crucial play, blocked him, got the loose ball, and took it coast to coast to get the tough and 1 between 2 defenders. The absolute definition of hustle.

salamanderman10

16 | 13 hours ago

Dude is the best defensive guard in the league. He guards the best offensive player every night, whether it’s Senguan, Durant, Cade, SGA

mikostands | Spurs

16 | 13 hours ago

Castle holding his own against Cade and basically cancelling his stats out?

All-Defense that guy NOW.

EveryoneLoveABJ

13 | 13 hours ago

As a cade meat muncher,castle had him in hell tonight gg

AirForcers | Spurs

16 | 13 hours ago

That sequence of the Castle block on Cade, eating his dirty ass hip-check, then driving into the and-one on the other end was a grown man move. Castle had himself a night. This is a year-2 21 year old kid by the way.

grandkill | Spurs

14 | 13 hours ago

Welcome to the Castle dungeons! Enjoy your stay.

Goodisworthfighting4

1 | 9 hours ago

Only guy I’ve seen cook Castle was Steph those back to back games. Other than that he has basically ruined every opponents life any matchup.

carelesssportsfan89 | Spurs

9 | 13 hours ago

castle is speical

Wallaby-Possible

8 | 13 hours ago

Reminds me of Kawhi terrorizing opponents when he was on the Spurs

wilsonsmilk | SAS

4 | 13 hours ago

1st. Team. All. Defense.

FH261169 | Mavericks

3 | 12 hours ago

Spurs are winning the west.

richonarampage

4 | 11 hours ago

Castle is the truth. Love his game.

Ok-Topic-6095 | Spurs

4 | 11 hours ago

So thankful the Rockets didn’t pick him in the draft

positivebeats | Spurs

3 | 13 hours ago

hes special

BananaRepublic_BR | Spurs

3 | 13 hours ago

This man deserves to be on an All-Defense team, damn it.

Axsh1boomba

2 | 13 hours ago

He’s The Punisher on defense and then does winning plays at the right time.

krsaxor | Spurs

2 | 12 hours ago

1st team all defense. Will always guard the opposing team’s best player.

jphamlore | NBA

2 | 11 hours ago

Isn’t the biggest draft paradox that it has become impossible to accurately draft shooting? I think the contrary principle is becoming apparent that one should never, ever, sacrifice height and athleticism for supposed better shooting.

Fultz vs Tatum and now possibly Castle vs Reed Sheppard. And this time, it looks like Reed Sheppard will be a fine shooter at the NBA level. It’s just that that doesn’t make up for everything else that length and athleticism bring.

Fun_Mind1494

1 | 13 hours ago

Cade is super inefficient. Pretty insane DET FO didn’t get him any help.

FirstPreparation8538 | Pacers

1 | 11 hours ago

Next jrue holiday

Dudedude88 | Wizards

1 | 9 hours ago

The spurs entire squad are like elite defenders…

Waste_Oven_7928

1 | 4 hours ago

Dg

RiskPlays | Pistons

1 | an hour ago

The duo of Castle and Wemby defensively is insanity. If teams have an off night shooting they are next to impossible to beat.

Beautiful-Coconut-96

0 | 3 hours ago

Every single one of those 16 points was felt palpably. Getting to the rim, drawing contact, hitting that transition 3 off the Vic block

He reminds me so much of Chicago Jimmy Butler. His presence is just like this absolute junkyard dog every minute he’s out there on both ends of the floor but he’s also very calm and composed, never gets rattled or overexcited

Stephon Castle shines on both ends against the Pistons and puts Cade in jail with 16 PTS, 4 REB, 11 AST plus elite defense