Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
San Antonio Spurs	24	33	26	31	114
Detroit Pistons	27	28	20	28	103

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
San Antonio Spurs	114	42-101	41.6%	18-40	45.0%	12-19	63.2%	16	67	32	22	8	12	11
Detroit Pistons	103	40-106	37.7%	7-36	19.4%	16-19	84.2%	20	69	21	19	7	15	8


San Antonio Spurs	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Devin Vassell^SF	36:19	28	10-14	7-11	1-2	1	1	2	4	0	1	1	2	11
Julian Champagnie^PF	36:26	17	6-12	5-8	0-0	0	6	6	1	1	2	1	3	9
Victor Wembanyama^C	35:36	21	6-16	2-5	7-8	8	9	17	4	1	6	3	4	13
De’Aaron Fox^SG	33:23	10	4-17	0-5	2-4	0	7	7	7	2	0	2	2	14
Stephon Castle^PG	30:07	16	7-16	1-1	1-3	0	4	4	11	1	1	4	2	5
Keldon Johnson	22:05	9	4-11	1-4	0-0	3	1	4	0	1	0	0	3	4
Dylan Harper	17:52	5	2-7	0-1	1-2	1	1	2	3	1	0	0	1	5
Luke Kornet	08:42	2	1-3	0-0	0-0	3	1	4	0	1	0	0	2	-6
Harrison Barnes	15:29	3	1-4	1-4	0-0	0	2	2	1	0	0	0	0	3
Carter Bryant	04:00	3	1-1	1-1	0-0	0	2	2	1	0	1	1	3	-3
Bismack Biyombo	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jordan McLaughlin	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kelly Olynyk	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Lindy Waters III	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Harrison Ingram	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
David Jones Garcia	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Emanuel Miller	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Mason Plumlee	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Stanley Umude	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Detroit Pistons	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Ausar Thompson^SF	17:44	8	4-6	0-0	0-0	1	3	4	2	0	0	2	2	-2
Tobias Harris^PF	29:51	4	1-6	0-1	2-2	2	6	8	2	0	0	2	1	2
Jalen Duren^C	29:17	25	10-13	0-0	5-6	7	7	14	1	2	0	3	4	-12
Duncan Robinson^SG	26:41	13	5-15	3-11	0-0	1	2	3	5	0	0	0	1	-1
Cade Cunningham^PG	34:50	16	5-26	2-9	4-5	1	5	6	10	2	3	3	5	-18
Ronald Holland II	26:16	15	5-13	1-6	4-4	3	8	11	0	1	1	0	1	-6
Paul Reed	19:46	10	5-8	0-1	0-0	2	3	5	0	1	2	1	2	-3
Caris LeVert	21:09	5	2-4	1-3	0-0	1	0	1	1	1	1	4	1	-5
Daniss Jenkins	21:23	7	3-10	0-2	1-2	2	1	3	0	0	0	0	2	-1
Javonte Green	13:02	0	0-5	0-3	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	-9
Kevin Huerter	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Chaz Lanier	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Marcus Sasser	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tolu Smith	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Isaiah Stewart	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Isaac Jones	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bobi Klintman	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wendell Moore Jr.	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Namulp | Spurs

1524 | 13 hours ago

What a game

Buttsmuggler69 | Raptors

658 | 13 hours ago

Absolutely felt like a playoff game

Locksmith1778

272 | 13 hours ago

Whew that was physical, what a war.

chrisapplewhite | Spurs

36 | 10 hours ago

Brick killed a guy

PoonGo0n | Spurs

210 | 13 hours ago

A Finals series between these two would be a bloodbath

Mac_N_Cheese01 | Spurs

105 | 13 hours ago

I genuinely wonder how many viewers that would draw… SA small market but wemby pulls outside views like crazy

TheCalvinator | Spurs

173 | 13 hours ago

The last time Detroit and San Antonio met for a physical defense heavy finals it set records for viewership.

heresyforfunnprofit | Spurs

78 | 13 hours ago

Yes… records.

Let’s not discuss what kind of records it set.

Mac_N_Cheese01 | Spurs

57 | 13 hours ago

True that finals had record low viewers… but certainly wemby + cade + great defense would pull good viewership this time, right?

Uncle_Freddy | SAS

39 | 13 hours ago

Certainly was one of the viewed Finals of all time

CardinalRoark | Celtics

19 | 13 hours ago

I hear the basketball even went through the hoop once, or maybe twice!

kanyeguisada | Spurs

132 | 13 hours ago

“Oh Mama!”

Bill Land at home

Lone_Star_122 | Spurs

57 | 13 hours ago

I miss him so much

kanyeguisada | Spurs

15 | 12 hours ago

All of us old Spurs fans do, we will never forget his voice. Him doing the best play-by-play with Sean Elliott’s color commentary, the best duo ever on NBA commentary imho. Like, I stream and have heard most teams’ commentary, but Bill and Sean together were just so good. They were never total homers. Always gave credit to the other team’s great plays and players.

You just know know Bill Land and Pop both watched this game tonight and pumped their fists in the air, heh. They’re both old and not as much on the scene as they once were, and have both been hit with bad strokes/physical things, but I can literally imagine them both sitting at home pumping their fists in the air and it makes me happy.

sportsbatbot | Pistons

51 | 13 hours ago

pretty damn good game

Alphadestrious | Spurs

11 | 13 hours ago

UFO sighting 👽🛸

soudlasantos

34 | 13 hours ago

Piston’s abysmal 3pt shooting (not sure if off night or san antonio’s perimeter defence) and Cade’s early foul trouble greatly diminished Piston’s offence.

Such a shame since pistons were outperforming spurs on offensive glass

asamulya | Spurs

67 | 13 hours ago

Cade literally didn’t get a foul called on him after committing so many. I don’t think it was detrimental

wryano | Spurs

55 | 13 hours ago

for real. Cade had 5 fouls but probably had 15 more uncalled ones

fallgetup

8 | 13 hours ago

Cade’s limits were glaring

Proof-Excitement-722

796 | 13 hours ago

the Devin “NBA cup merchant“ Vassell effect

10-2 when he returns

jdd32

288 | 13 hours ago

The Spurs are just really hard to beat when they have their shooters healthy. Fox/castle/Wemby attract so much attention in the paint, but Vassel and Champ can punish them when they double team(or triple team in Wemby’s case)

Tyranicross | SAS

109 | 12 hours ago

Kornet is the other underrated piece on this team. Able to have good size while wemby isnt on the floor. Spurs real thin at the 4 and 5.

Not_A_Bot_Am_Human | Spurs

36 | 11 hours ago

Absolutely true but one thing I’m starting to realize based on roster decisions and rotations is we don’t believe in 4s.

You’re either a perimeter player or a center on this team.

soudlasantos

12 | 12 hours ago

Yeah, they can’t afford Stephon Castle/Harrison Barnes to guard Kawhi/KevinDurant/Lebron/Luka/AaronGordon/LauriMarkkanen/JuliusRandle all day lmao they gonna need a player built like Julius Randle

TA_Account_12 | SAS

18 | 12 hours ago

Champagnie and Devin take care of that assignment.

MurseShark | Spurs

144 | 13 hours ago

I really took Dev for granted. I was down for them to trade him before the season started but man has he proven me wrong. Not only is he capable of going off like today, but even if he isn’t he’s lethal in the midrange, and spreads the floor. Also a decent defender.

WEMBY_F4N | Spurs

85 | 13 hours ago

He’s our best shooter so yea that’s important on a team built around rim attacking guards and a 7’5 guy

FinalFrash

694 | 13 hours ago

Forget Cade vs Wemby. Duren vs Wemby is going to be so fun.

DerrickWhiteMVP | Spurs

331 | 13 hours ago

Cade v. Castle

SenJohn_Beatofferman

165 | 13 hours ago

Castle locked Cade up in that dungeon.

SMH4004 | Spurs

32 | 10 hours ago

Castle Walls

Successful-Pie6759 | Spurs

131 | 12 hours ago

First time watching Duren for a whole game for me and that was a revelation. He’s a monster. Didn’t know that type of game could still survive the modern NBA but he’s making it work. Like a young McDyess.

Persian_Frank_Zappa

44 | 11 hours ago

I’ve watched almost every NBA game he’s played. This is the first time he had to bring this to the table, and honestly, the best game I’ve seen him play. Not the best statistically, but in terms of figuring out what needs to be done, it was a hell of an effort.

Wemby is nightmare fuel for opponents. Glad to see him healthy and in good spirits, despite being fouled constantly.

alexandianos | Pistons

17 | 12 hours ago

I liked Dwane Casey’s comp; Shawn Kemp

mallllls | Spurs

660 | 13 hours ago

Cade got his ass locked up lol

5-26 is abysmal

Positive_Ad1947 | Spurs

326 | 13 hours ago

Castle All NBA Defense baby.

mallllls | Spurs

37 | 13 hours ago

Gotta be

Successful-Pie6759 | Spurs

16 | 12 hours ago

Having wemby backstopping you never hurts. Castle on his grill but he couldn’t take advantage driving.

NotFrankSalazar | Spurs

149 | 13 hours ago

Terrible matchup for him. Wemby is gonna give him nightmares

OpeDefinitely | Pacers

148 | 13 hours ago

The biggest problem with Detroit’s roster construction is that the team doesn’t have another player who can play PG at an NBA starter level. Duncan Robinson starts at the 2 for Detroit, but he’s really more of a forward. Robinson’s catch-and-shoot game & defense works out very well for Detroit up until Cade needs a pressure relief valve…

When Tyrese Haliburton is getting face guarded all game, Andrew Nembhard shifts over to play the 1 for 30%-40% of Pacers’ possessions. This allows Tyrese to impact the game off ball, which takes pressure off and prevents exhaustion. Because Nembhard is a high level facilitator in his own right and has legitimate point guard skills, Tyrese doesn’t get iced out of games when Nemby is playing the 1. If/when Tyrese gets open (or gets somebody else open with a cut/screen), Nembhard is on it.

Kyrie did practically the same thing for Luka in Dallas. Having 2 competent point guards in the starting lineup is HUGE. It’s impossible to overstate this point. When your superstar is a point guard, having another legitimate starting caliber point guard with facilitating skills makes a huge difference.

mallllls | Spurs

44 | 13 hours ago

Great analysis

OpeDefinitely | Pacers

26 | 13 hours ago

It makes it easier that the Pistons’ roster construction isn’t actually all that dissimilar from that of the Pacers’.

I’ve been paying really close attention to them as they built themselves up from the league’s worst team to a contender. The Pistons definitely have their own unique identity, but the similarities between them & the Pacers are uncanny sometimes.

Cecil_Hardboner | Spurs

9 | 11 hours ago

the exact type of guy they need is a George Hill or Derrick White, unfortunately we arent giving those out anymore.

confused-koala | Pistons

16 | 12 hours ago

Good write up, I think the hope was Ivey could blossom into that guy, but it just wasn’t happening. Think that was a big reason we signed Levert as well, but he’s been awful.

Not a perfect fit, but I was hoping we’d trade for Alvarado at the deadline, I was pissed the Knicks picked him up. Right now the best option for that is Daniss, who I love, but that’s a lot to put on his shoulders come playoff time

OpeDefinitely | Pacers

20 | 12 hours ago

Sadly finding “that guy” is not trivial.

The Pacers drafted Mathurin to play that role, but he didn’t really work out. Thankfully, Nembhard - who the Pacers drafted in the 2nd round of the same draft - did work out to play that role.

It’s not an easy archetype to find. You either sign/trade for a star to play co-star to your #1, such as was the case with Kyrie in Dallas. Or, alternatively, you get somewhat lucky by finding & developing somebody like Andrew Nembhard.

I think that finding or developing a SF/PF with very good facilitating and ball handling skills could work out very well too, but that’s also easier said than done.

soudlasantos

135 | 13 hours ago

Spurs guards and wings are capable of defending him and Wemby is a blackhole for the enemy team lol.

His early foul troubles also ensure that he can’t be as physical anymore in 4th quarter due to risk of foul out

TheCalvinator | Spurs

42 | 13 hours ago

Eh, he was still playing plenty physical in the 4th

rawchess | Minneapolis Lakers

78 | 13 hours ago

Castle is very, very aggressive as the POA and it burns him against a lot of superstar assignments but he seems to be the kryptonite for guys like Cade and SGA who have neither the pullup 3PT shooting nor the athleticism to punish that.

wryano | Spurs

32 | 13 hours ago

i still want to see Castle vs Curry again now that Castle’s defense has much more respect from the officials. i think he’ll be much better.

those two Warriors games he was getting hosed with BS touch fouls (finished with 5 fouls both games) and it got to a point where he just had to play extremely loose on Curry.

MantissTobaggan | Pistons

52 | 13 hours ago

Castle is a monster on defense

ChaoticReality | Spurs

25 | 13 hours ago

Cade was in Castle’s Dungeon today

SpinJitsu259 | Pacers

24 | 13 hours ago

Gonna have to learn to hit some 3s against this team because Wemby ain’t gonna let the middy stuff flow.

Victor_Wembanyama1 | Spurs

574 | 13 hours ago

I’m here to overreact

Traditional-Bill1054

218 | 13 hours ago

Pistons and Spurs are both legit. Should both be in the conference finals at least. Would be disappointing for both teams if they aren’t

karmew32 | Pelicans

104 | 13 hours ago

If the Spurs get the 2 seed and fall to the Nuggets in the 2nd round, I wouldn’t call that a disappointment.

Anivia124

11 | 11 hours ago

I have the Spurs as the favorite to win the title this year. No only do they one of the highest win percentage in the league, but they consistently win against the other top teams during big games

vorp20 | Spurs

55 | 13 hours ago

Bro. Get off Reddit and go take an ice bath. Nice game tonight Vic

RealGertle627 | SAS

12 | 13 hours ago

We going honking?

ColdWarWarrior | Celtics

421 | 13 hours ago

Wemby had 0 blocks against the Pistons before tonight.

He now has 6.

BarrackLesnar | Spurs

140 | 13 hours ago

Made up for lost time

New_User0001

102 | 13 hours ago

He also played them 1 time, a total of 21 minutes in that game.

goldenfa

63 | 13 hours ago

He had his first triple double in that game

New_User0001

49 | 13 hours ago

You’re right! 16/12/10 in 21 minutes. Nice.

jdd32

17 | 13 hours ago

He saw that stat and took it personally.

Headlesshorsman02 | Thunder

387 | 13 hours ago

The spurs when the 3s are falling are a very scary proposition lol 😂 when guys like Vassell and Champ are or even Keldon are on heaters it feels like an Everest type climb to overcome due to how well they defend on the other end

22dias

133 | 13 hours ago

Also when they actually play a proper 3rd quarter

MikeyBastard1 | Spurs

76 | 13 hours ago

Think the team is something like 18-1 in games where they make 40% of their threes.

tinybathroomfaucet | Supersonics

31 | 12 hours ago

That’s been the story of the NBA for the past decade or so. Hit your threes and you’ll win almost all the time.

Headlesshorsman02 | Thunder

21 | 12 hours ago

Yeah pretty much the same for us lol 😂 it’s just that there are a decent number of games where we shoot low 30 and high 20% making life way harder then it needs to be lol 😂

NotFrankSalazar | Spurs

378 | 13 hours ago

Off night Wemby on an away game and we still got the dub.

acciopizza_ | Spurs

310 | 13 hours ago

It’s funny cause even on the broadcast the tried to say that his impact isn’t always seen on the stat line then they read the stat line and were like, wait a minute that’s actually really good still.

UncoBeefWang | Spurs

105 | 13 hours ago

Both things can be true (in spite of the numbers working in his favor). The zero-block games arguably tell as much as the six-block games: either teams keep trying and failing, or they don’t bother.

Prior_Chemist_5026 | Celtics

34 | 12 hours ago

It’s becoming his signature move to get challenged early, get three blocks on the first five possessions, and finish with three blocks because they spend the rest of the game veering away from the paint

Serious-Fudge-5919

16 | 12 hours ago

Yeah 21/17/4/6 blocks. Yeah not a bad night 🤣🤣🤣

sloBrodanChillosevic | Supersonics

264 | 13 hours ago

6 blocks and 8 offensive rebounds. Even on an off shooting night, Wemby is a gamebreaking freak.

Thehelloman0 | Spurs

43 | 13 hours ago

Several of those offensive rebounds he threw up a bad shot right away because he was off balance when he grabbed them so a lot of them weren’t very helpful. Wemby was way better the second half of this game but great on defense as usual.

Titronnica | SAS

122 | 13 hours ago

We calling an all out defensive master class an off night lmaooo

NotFrankSalazar | Spurs

64 | 13 hours ago

I mean he never has an off night on defense, just his offensive game. Usually teams quit trying him.

dreamweaver7x | Spurs

17 | 13 hours ago

That’s why he’s got Devin and Julian to rain 3s. It’s a team game, we don’t need Vic to dominate on offense.

GauthZuOGZ | Mavericks

76 | 13 hours ago

Off night ²¹⁄₁₇ with 6 blocks lmao, and I actually agree he wasnt very good on offense

PoonGo0n | Spurs

22 | 13 hours ago

Their physicality definitely threw him off. It was nice to see him respond by still being a monster on defense. The more games against tough ass teams like Detroit, the better for his progression.

Remarkable-Lynx1496 | Spurs

15 | 13 hours ago

The first half looked VERY rough for him but thankfully the pistons got into foul trouble

negaodsg

282 | 13 hours ago

Wemby went complete beast mode in that second half. Insane defense.

nixhomunculus

165 | 13 hours ago

That blocking start in the fourth quarter was insane. He just basically said, ‘fuck you, and fuck you.’

shinbreaker | Spurs

65 | 12 hours ago

I fucking love his blocking. Centers used to just throw the hands up and get a tip or maybe stuff it down back onto the shooter, but Wemby purposely blocks it to the glass so he can grab it or knock it to another player.

Cowgoon777 | Spurs

18 | 9 hours ago

Learned that from Timmy.

revisioncloud | Thunder

218 | 13 hours ago

Crazy how some damn elite teams in the next decade might be denied to win if it coincides with a healthy Wemby career

Locksmith1778

132 | 13 hours ago

You can’t play non-shooting perimeter players against Wemby. Just absolutely destroys half-court offense, especially if you aren’t an elite offensive team to begin with.

soudlasantos

63 | 13 hours ago

Lmao I remember that houston game where Wemby just ignored Amen Thompson to roam the paint. And Stephon Castle guarding both Durant and Sengun.

Dm-me-a-gyro | Spurs

25 | 13 hours ago

Legend is Sengun is still walking around making the too small gesture to this day with tears in his eyes

MikeyBastard1 | Spurs

25 | 13 hours ago

Honesty to beat Victor the opposing team HAS to play 5 shooters when he’s on the court. The spurs just match Victor up with whoever the worst shooter is and let him roam the paint. You saw it against Houston when the guy Victor was “guarding” was Amen Thompson.

If the opposing team has even 1 non shooter on the court they are a severe disadvantage.

blue-anon | Spurs

37 | 13 hours ago

Those poor saps from the Jordan era. 🤣

Sarkin | Pistons

202 | 13 hours ago

Real tough to win when you shoot 19% from three while your opponent shoots 45% on even more attempts. We’re bad from behind the arc, but we’re not THIS bad.

Cade also struggled with both bad shooting and foul trouble.

We’ll see if we can win the rematch, but tonight San Antonio was just better. First half was very fun though!

NotFrankSalazar | Spurs

114 | 13 hours ago

Apparently yall don’t know about Vassell. Left him open a ton.

reallinguy | Pistons

115 | 13 hours ago

no, that’s just Careless Levert’s typical defense posession

radiokungfu | Pacers

83 | 13 hours ago

Careless Levert 💀

reallinguy | Pistons

19 | 13 hours ago

that’s our fanbase’s nickname for him, JB loves him like a son for some reason

yesimforeign | Spurs

42 | 13 hours ago

Spurs are deep. Vic had a difficult shooting night, but usually someone on the Spurs will step up

ShotFirst57 | Pistons

29 | 13 hours ago

Feels like a big difference. If one of your shooters has an off night, someone will pick up the slack. If our only shooter has an off night, you can just ignore our 3 entirely.

yesimforeign | Spurs

15 | 13 hours ago

The difference is that our number 4-7 options were all NBA starters and the best talent on this team 2-3 years ago. Now they get to focus on being role players and they’ve done incredibly well.

ArmiinTamzarian | Spurs

12 | 13 hours ago

Tbf that’s how you are supposed to defend him. There’s a direction correlation between how contested he is and how likely he’s to make the shot

Sir__Douglas | Spurs

22 | 13 hours ago

Good game, and the first real dunk on Victor of the year. Looking forward to the next one (edit: next game, not next dunk).

rawchess | Minneapolis Lakers

17 | 13 hours ago

I’d say yall will run into a defense like this in the playoffs and lose a la 2024 OKC, but actually that team doesn’t exist in the East so you may very well go all the way

CurrentlyPersecuted | Spurs

14 | 13 hours ago

You guys gave me a stress headache gahdamn man.

dwrek24 | Spurs

12 | 13 hours ago

Your boys battled with some heart though. That should have been a blowout start to finish but the Pistons refused it until the 4th and even then made a little mini run to close.

cookomputer | Spurs

175 | 13 hours ago

Still can’t understand why Pistons didn’t get a shooter at the deadline

PoonGo0n | Spurs

100 | 13 hours ago

They got Huerter

cookomputer | Spurs

50 | 13 hours ago

Oh the Ivey trade 😭

They should play him if he isn’t injured

Lost-Umpire7553

30 | 12 hours ago

He LITERALLY played himself out of the rotation within 2 games lol

GeneralTheSurvivor | Bulls

18 | 13 hours ago

Bro is not a shooter anymore…

shangalang69 | Raptors

12 | 13 hours ago

Huerter hasn’t been a real shooter since the beam team

OrganicMechanicTTV | Pistons

80 | 13 hours ago

Yeah, a lot of us are wondering the same thing.

To me, it feels like we’re 1 year ahead of where our GM expected us to be and is content to “see what happens” in the playoffs and get another year of experience before preparing depth for a secondary scorer/shooter.

AchtCocainAchtBier | Spurs

26 | 13 hours ago

Never change a running system. You still are the 1 seed with the best record.

Christron | Spurs

18 | 13 hours ago

Exact same scenario for the Spurs too though they seem to be ahead of schedule and are missing shooters.

darren_meier

18 | 12 hours ago

I can appreciate that thinking, but sometimes you gotta strike when the iron’s hot. Not trying to slander the Pistons– they’re a heck of a team– but I’m not sure there is a better time to go than in a season where the Knicks have looked real lost at times, Boston’s missing Tatum (at least so far), Cleveland started off the season a right mess and still have a bunch of injuries, and Indiana’s out for the season. Ahead of development or not, you’re not likely to see another single season when almost all of your primary competitors are all damaged. Fees like a missed opportunity, if Duncan Robinson can’t hit at a high clip there’s a pretty discernible plan to attack the Pistons.

helpilostmynarwhal

28 | 13 hours ago

The got Red Velvet but they’re not giving him any minutes.

Worldly_Wind_4663

25 | 13 hours ago

They kinda did, they traded for Huerter who was having the worst 3s percentage of his career and now isnt even seeing the floor.

Headlesshorsman02 | Thunder

14 | 13 hours ago

Yeah it will likely be their demise as shooters can be the difference in a series

DirtAndShovels | Spurs

160 | 13 hours ago

Fans of other Central division teams have my sympathies bro. If I had to play the Pistons 4 times a year I’d be bald.

96Mute96 | Spurs

64 | 13 hours ago

Fr they are so physical I feel banged up just from watching

Kwanzaa-Bot | Pelicans

150 | 13 hours ago

Even when he isn’t efficiently scoring Wemby is a DPOY level defender.

If Jokic and SGA don’t play 65 games and Wemby does, does he have an MVP case based on both sides of the ball?

yesimforeign | Spurs

93 | 13 hours ago

If MVP was an award that valued defense and offense equally, Wemby would win it.

He’s literally galaxies ahead of the other candidates on defense.

DifferentRun8534

17 | 13 hours ago

Offense and defense shouldn’t be valued equally for individual awards. Because the offense has more control over who has the ball, it can concentrate more responsibility, and therefore impact, onto a single player.

But what exactly is the difference between the best offense and the best defense? Almost certainly less than casual fans believe. EPM this year says the highest OEPM is ~2x the highest DEPM, but this is a departure from past seasons where it’s typically closer to ~1.5x. Also, I can’t help but feel like EPM is pretty severely underrating Wemby’s defense considering it only has him 4th in the league.

EmbarrassedRing7806 | Lakers

10 | 13 hours ago

d-lebron has generally lined up better with my eye test. my preferences are o-epm and d-lebron personally.

https://www.bball-index.com/lebron-application/

has wemby at 1.

even then his impact isnt as outlierish as it seems. wonder if the metrics arent capturing it or if we’re overrating it.

jdd32

62 | 13 hours ago

100%

Doesn’t matter cause I’m sure SGA will play enough, but if Wemby actually makes it and they don’t he’s easily the MVP imo. I think he’s clearly better than Cade/Brown, and I think the optics with Luka aren’t great right now with the Lakers getting blown out in big games and his truly horrible to watch level of complaining.

inefekt | Australia

12 | 13 hours ago

Spurs have lost just two more games than OKC, it might not matter if Shai plays enough games, if Spurs take the top seed, especially after how they beat them several times in succession, Wemby still might win.

Christron | Spurs

8 | 12 hours ago

Shais offense output is pretty crazy though and he’s great on d still (compared to Luka and Jokic other MVP level players)

SunKing210 | Spurs

145 | 13 hours ago

Pistons are physical as hell! That was a dogfight of a game and even on a Wemby offensive off night he still stuffed the stat sheet, DPOY!

Bard_Wannabe_ | Pistons

17 | 12 hours ago

GG’s. Wemby is a tough matchup: Pistons get so much of their offense in the paint. Vassell was killing us meanwhile. Hard to beat a team this good when you’re shooting 45% from 3

GGezpzMuppy | Spurs

142 | 13 hours ago

The Wemdynasty era has begun.

Secondary92 | Australia

80 | 13 hours ago

I’m a truther, low-key think you can win the title this season. His 2-way impact is just off the charts, esp defense. Feels like the opponent needs to be hot from 3 or they’re cooked.

TomatoBuster01 | Warriors

33 | 13 hours ago

I highkey believe in Wemby

mioraka | Raptors

28 | 13 hours ago

Not enough playoff experience, hard to go really far, don’t think there has ever been a NBA champion with their best player being a playoffs rookie.

On the other hand, I am all for Wemby playing as much playoff basketball as possible. These intense games really make him go 120% and show us something we’ve never seen before.

Next year though….this team gonna be like the Thunder in 2025.

superdrone | Mavericks

22 | 13 hours ago

we’ve also never seen such a game breaking player before. this is one of the worst games i’ve see wemby play and he still completely neutralized the pistons in the paint.

giving wemby 4+ looks at your offense is probably giving the west coaches nightmares.

J-man3000

12 | 13 hours ago

Magic was a literal rookie and playoff rookie.

mioraka | Raptors

15 | 13 hours ago

Bruh, That was Kareem’s team, he was still in his prime with a team full of veteran all stars.

Magic was like the third option on that team, not the same.

wombatpup55 | Spurs

8 | 13 hours ago

I think this too but I can be delusional and think we can go all the way so idk. This team has already outperformed my expectations and other fans expectations this season so who knows what they can do

Wynona_Judd | Pistons

14 | 13 hours ago

I don’t know how the Spurs lose if he’s playing, seriously. It takes a peak Warriors level shooting from 3 to counteract his presence in the paint.

Scoobersteve321 | James Harden

140 | 13 hours ago

Man I love how Wemby never complains to the refs, so refreshing compared to other stars.

greatGoD67 | Spurs

54 | 13 hours ago

I appreciate Castle because he seems very cool headed

averagejoeag | Spurs

13 | 11 hours ago

The joker clap after Cade shoved him down was the most emotion I’ve seen from him in a long time. He’s so level headed.

Competitive_Soft6547 | Spurs

44 | 13 hours ago

I feel like the last time wemby really bitched at the refs was against the nuggets in the tail end of his rookie year, then he proceeded to score 17 points in 3 minutes and probably ruined the nuggets repeat hopes by messing up their seeding

NFL-GoodellEvilKing | Spurs

130 | 13 hours ago

Oh we’re sooooo back

buttsoup_barnes | DET

30 | 13 hours ago

more than back, Cade got cooked. GGs

Latchedlungs | Hornets

98 | 13 hours ago

There are numerous rosters that have a greater depth of talent but I really respect the pure hustle that Detroit play with. One of the things I hate the most is when it looks like a player isn’t giving absolute effort or doesn’t care. Yeah they need another shooter, but at least they have an identity.

SystemPeanut

37 | 13 hours ago

Ron Holland II is an inspiration

PoonGo0n | Spurs

93 | 13 hours ago

GG Detroit! Beat tf out of OKC this Wednesday!

Bonesawisready5 | Spurs

22 | 13 hours ago

Gonna be sobering if OKC minus SGA beats them

PoonGo0n | Spurs

22 | 13 hours ago

They’ll probably find a way to rest Chet. He doesn’t any part of that Duren smoke lol

heat_fan_ | Raptors

66 | 13 hours ago

Vassell legacy game wasn’t on my bingo card

Wemby is just damn unfair

soudlasantos

28 | 13 hours ago

Julian Champagnie and Keldon Johnson have also massive positive impacts on that game (especially Keldon’s one 3pt shot that kept Pistons at 10pts behind when pistons were trailing by 7 points at 3rd quarter).

Man I know Keldon johnson is impressive but Julian Champagnie’s improvement is a surprise this year.

Malemansam | Spurs

66 | 13 hours ago

A defensive masterclass by Steph Castle and Wemby.

Idc what anyone says, Steph is legit one of the best defensive guards in the league if not THE best.

What a night for Vassell man, at any time it could be anyones night with this team.

People need to understand how valuable Fox is for us, he’s delegating his own to get into the paint and spread it to get it for others. He’ll ramp up his as the rotation shortens heading into the playoffs.

Fucking great game. Can’t wait to see DDDDEEETROOOIIIITT BASSKEEETTBALLLL again with Beef Stew and his steel chair.

GabrPG

14 | 13 hours ago

Look, Fox shot like crap in this game. BUT, I absolutely agree with your take. He’s more important for the team than the stats can show or than people actually think. His only problem is his contract for the mid/long term. He’s showing he has no ego and is a team player, which sounds like nothing, but it’s not that easy for players with the AS tag. Mitch’s gameplan is obviously not for him to play like a star but to help Castle and Harper to develop while competing (and winning), and it’s working perfectly. I’m not sure he imagined that kind of role for himself since the trade, but he’s embracing it pretty well. We’ll see in the playoffs whether the gameplan changes when the moment demands it. He obviously can give more offensively than we’ve been seeing for now.

FatalTortoise

62 | 13 hours ago

I speak for everyone when I say, what the fuck were those last two and a half minutes in the third

mathird | Spurs

15 | 13 hours ago

A test of your patience.

tdsas97 | SAS

64 | 13 hours ago

spurs with the ethical defensive win

ifuckwithit | Spurs

59 | 13 hours ago

Shout out to Cade man. His shooting made sure to erase any advantage Detroit was getting from the refs

acciopizza_ | Spurs

30 | 13 hours ago

Castle wasn’t having any of it. He really bothered him. Love to see it

Bonesawisready5 | Spurs

14 | 13 hours ago

Dude was like ¹⁄₁₅ on 2nd half and seemed flustered after Castle didn’t take the bait after that flagrant push

No-Meringue5867 | Spurs

11 | 13 hours ago

His intentional push off against Castle and Wemby were dumb AF. Put him in foul trouble all of 4th quarter.

Castle was brilliant. Bothered him all night.

MLGLies | Pistons

53 | 13 hours ago

Doomers and memers will say the Pistons aren’t for real based on one game, but the reality is that the Spurs are just a terrible matchup for us on the offensive end.

Pistons have one real shooter and rely on bullying teams in the paint and Cade getting to the rim (with the kick-out to open shooters when help D comes inside). Wemby is a one-man paint eater on defense, which neutralizes our entire identity.

I wish we had more outside shooting, but I like our chances against 28 other teams in the league this season as is.

Luckily, for everyone’s sake, there is only one Wemby.

cookomputer | Spurs

18 | 13 hours ago

Pistons are legit, that game felt more physical than the 5 games against OKC ngl

bwehx

12 | 13 hours ago

The Spurs are a terrible matchup for everybody in the league. Shit is gonna be really scary in the playoffs. A fully healthy Nuggets might match-up okay, but it’s tough

Southern_sky | Spurs

45 | 13 hours ago

I’m fudgin exhausted

titoxtian | Spurs

15 | 13 hours ago

Me too lol… we need to load manage next game…

MLGLies | Pistons

48 | 13 hours ago

Someone please keep Austin Rivers away from any more broadcasts… NBC has done so well with broadcasts this year, but he was so incredibly annoying.

Even the other commentators didn’t want him sitting by them…

doughnut-dinner | Spurs

11 | 13 hours ago

Yeah he was cheeks. He couldn’t make up his mind on what teams nuts he was on.

SorbetSea8711

39 | 13 hours ago

insane game, even when Wemby has an off night offensively he’s still capable of being a game changer somehow.

it’s like a glitch in the game

Bubble-Jimmy-Monster | Knicks

37 | 13 hours ago

Absolute cinema

WEMBY_F4N | Spurs

22 | 13 hours ago

Best defensive game of the season imo. Both teams locked down but luckily our shooters made their open shots

warriors_of_hope | Warriors

37 | 13 hours ago

The gap between Wemby and the 2nd best defender is the same gap as 2nd and Luka.

d11dd11d | Pistons

35 | 13 hours ago

Since we rely on getting a lot of pts in the paint, I always knew we’d have trouble against wemby. If we had a better 3pt shooting night, it might have been a bit better of a game. Unfortunately, we dont have too many good 3pt shooting nights. GG spurs.

Ill stan Ron Holland for the rest of my life

AdDouble1617 | Hornets

30 | 13 hours ago

I love the spurs for winning against the pistons

Bonesawisready5 | Spurs

17 | 13 hours ago

We love when yall win (except vs us!!) to push the hawks down the standings for that sweet 2026 pick

Mac_N_Cheese01 | Spurs

29 | 13 hours ago

Wemby the block god fr fr!

Dude had a terrible game offensively and still got 21 while playing otherworldly defense. People shitting on Cade but those who watched can tell that he had to bail on a lot of potential points in the paint cuz wemby was lurking…

Oh, and castle is a GROWN MAN

WembanYamin | Spurs

26 | 13 hours ago

Wemby at his worst is waaay better than Prime Gobert

Julesbaby22

24 | 13 hours ago

This game showed me how the 2 superstars of both teams can operate without a good shooting night. Both Wemby and Cade were missing even bricking at times, yet they play great defense and still get their team involved. True Superstars, they will have better days. Spurs are so balanced, they move the ball and play stifling defense with Castle while being fresh and young enough to push the pace

twotonkatrucks | Spurs

21 | 13 hours ago

Off shooting night for victor but boy did he have an impact in the game in all other manners possible.

SirTacoMaster

19 | 13 hours ago

Ok I’m a Wemby believer now

Low_Beyond8134 | Lakers

21 | 13 hours ago

That game was such a grind the end of the 3rd quarter took 5 years

Ibo21 | Pistons

21 | 13 hours ago

Spurs defense with Wemby roaming is elite! Never seen Cade blocked so much in his life 😂

dwrek24 | Spurs

18 | 13 hours ago

You might have to see about the Spurs come playoff time – young team or not.

Embarrassed_Bee6799

17 | 13 hours ago

The Spurs will run the league for years if these young guys continue to develop even at a moderate pace. They could easily run the league by next season tbh.

Lucid-Day

17 | 13 hours ago

Castle really set the tone when it looked like the Spurs were going to be taken out of the game by the Pistons’ physicality. Just stepped up.

That plus Vassell and Champagnie knocking down 3s really just sealed the deal

_Chicken_Chaser_ | Spurs

20 | 13 hours ago

That was a bloodbath

BoneDollars | Spurs

16 | 13 hours ago

Castle dominated Cunningham

FatalTortoise

15 | 13 hours ago

I’m convinced Detroits scout guy scouted the games vassell was out due to injury. The defense they played would have beat the spurs in early January

deandiggity | Pistons

12 | 13 hours ago

Castle is damn good. Not sure I’ve seen Cade that rattled ever. Doesn’t help that Wemby being there affects his game, but Castle had him working for literally anything all game.

Layolee | Spurs

13 | 13 hours ago

Shades of The Beautiful Game

Zachattackxd

11 | 13 hours ago

Somehow, Spurs got called on more fouls than the Pistons.

Titronnica | SAS

11 | 13 hours ago

GET THE VASSELL APOLOGY FORM OUT, FOLKS

KyWy75 | Celtics

10 | 13 hours ago

Pistons are a really good team, Cade is awesome, but it feels like over a 7 game series they’re easier to defend because they don’t really have a secondary option for crunch time offense, it’s just “hey Cade do something.”

Rairu21 | Spurs

9 | 13 hours ago

Dylan Harper is a cheat code. He instantly adapted to the physical game and used his skill to get Vassell open 3’s which fueled our run to start taking the lead. Castle with his magnum opus on both ends of the floor. I love this team

zgamer200 | Celtics

9 | 13 hours ago

Jenkins not securing the board because he took his eyes off the ball to see where he was gonna run with it & the possession instead ending up as a Spurs’ 3 was the nail in the coffin for Detroit imo.

Never managed to create any real momentum after that play.

EarthWarping | NBA

10 | 13 hours ago

I think the Spurs are a contender.

wemby was meh before the 4th and vassel/castle helped.

cade was bad tonight, however pistons lack of shooting is a problem again

cs-shitposter | Celtics

9 | 13 hours ago

Skill prevailed over whatever the fuck the Pistons were doing out there

Aussie_Spur | Spurs

9 | 13 hours ago

Wemby going at about 60% of his usual impact on offense and he’s still the most impactful player on the court.

That’s why he is the leagues MVP.

And that’s all that needs to be said.

kanyeguisada | Spurs

8 | 13 hours ago

None of us Spurs fans thought we’d be here at this point. Preseason in our sub, we thought we’d be lucky to be like 7-8 seed at this point.

This is a young team playing like the 2014 “Beautiful Game” established Spurs and I love it.

Wemby is a beast but wasn’t shooting well from the floor and the team just won it and you have to appreciate the team effort y’all.

The San Antonio Spurs (41-16) defeat the Detroit Pistons (42-14) behind Devin Vassell’s 28 PTS, 114-103.