I feel like so many people nowadays have such an entitled attitude, and don’t understand how a positive and good personality can get you so far.

How do you write this and that? Maybe follow your own advice.

I’m sure the ring was a fine consolation 😭

The skyfucker is still doing it too at 37. Man’s been averaging his highest ppg at 27.2 since 2022-2023. 63.6% TS lol. It’s actually even more impressive when you also add his injury history. 

He and LeBron really are space aliens. 

He basically came into radar for the average fan cause of the elevator door play and how it was unstoppable because of his shooting.

Totally but he was unanimously the best PG in the league for a long time even through his 2nd/3rd team finishes until Luka peaked around 2022 (if you consider him a PG). For instance, he missed 1st team in ²⁰¹⁶⁄₂₀₁₇ because Westbrook averaged a trip dub for the first time since Oscar Robertson - even though Steph was clearly the better + more impactful to winning player that year too

That’s why context matters, rather than just looking at a single accolade.

Harden has six 1st team selections yet no one puts him anywhere close to the pantheon discussion.

Steph lost out on a few first teams because other guys had amazing regular seasons (Westbrook averaging a triple double in 2017, Booker leading the Suns to 64 wins in 2022, SGA emerging as an MVP caliber player in 2023), he missed a good chunk of 2018 and only got third team, and missed almost all of 2020. It’s not really that crazy that he “only” has four.

Between 2015 and 2023, even in years where Steph wasn’t on the first team, if you needed to win a playoff game I don’t think anyone would pick any other guard over him.

Only four 1st teams is really low for where most of this sub wants to rank him.

For reference, the group with exactly 4 first team and more than 8 all NBA teams overall is Steph, Dirk, KG, Chris Paul, John Havlicek, David Robinson and Moses Malone.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/all_league_by_player.html

The two comments below it, excuse it. But it is the thing that hurts Curry. It’s that after 16, his regular season efforts haven’t been as impactful.

His 21 season is the only absolute best guard in the league season he’s had since 16 sadly.

In a hypothetical world where shai hits eligibility and wins the chip+fmvp again (big if but bear with me) this year

Shai: 4x first team, 2x MVP, 2x champion, 2x FMVP

Curry: 4x first team, 2x MVP, 4x champion, 1x FMVP

Kinda insane place for Shai to possibly be at entering his age 28 season if he makes it happen this year. Conversations will be had

Curry, Harden, CP3, Lilliard, Westbrook, Kobe, Klay, Parker… Those are the perennial west guards that come to mind taking up AS or All-NBA slots.

Then there was DeAndre Jordan as an All-NBA first teamer with the C position so lackluster lol

Mike Conley isn’t a multi-time all-star in any generation 

That’s a bit disingenuous given that Magic had 9 straight All NBA first team (and top 3 MVP voting in all of those years) before having to retire with HIV. And the only seasons he wasn’t All NBA was his rookie year (All star) and his sophomore year where he was 11th in MVP voting and there was no 3rd team.

Magic played in just 12 seasons. His career was cut short. He was still in his prime in 91.

I think he’s actually similar to Reggie in that regard. Nobody would debate that Reggie is an easy HOFer, but he has way less accolades than you’d expect

Most people dont rly do influence rankings that often. Like ye it’s cool lol but we talking basketball

Deni has actually missed more games than I thought looking at it, but the point still stands

I think that’d be a great change. MVP and 1st team should be strict and others less

Removing it or lowering it significantly for the 3rd team would be a good change, it would allow the NBA to acknowledge that a player still made an impact despite missing significant time

Or..

Just..

Let the voters..

Vote!

It’s tough. Availability matters for sure, but Steph for example, even with the games he’s missed, is at least 3rd team All-NBA for me. He’s putting that Warriors squad on his back when he’s active.

This rule is dumb as shit lmfao. It what world would it make sense to omit Jokic from All-NBA if he plays 64 games? Unbelievable that a thinking person would believe that makes sense.

The game is different than it was back then lol.

Doubt that, I think at most they’d just set different parameters for the 3 teams.

Maybe they can stagger them or something, or you get a single season “exception” 

Like one season you play, I dunno, 55 games and you’re still eligible for the awards, but the next season has a higher minimum, like back to 65. Might be too dumb or complicated, I dunno, just spitballing. 

what will it be lowered to when that inevitably isn’t enough?

With Giannis and Curry out you would have literally the 6 best players ineligible for awards lol

Yes but mandatory positions also led to that. So one step forward and one back. Shout out Deandre Jordan.

I don’t think so. Even without the hard floor voters were considering games played a real mark against players. It’s not that drastic a difference from before.

Not at all. The amount of talent this season is overflowing. There’s 7-8 guys with legit case for first all-nba

Someone did a post about players who made All-NBA without playing 65 games and there was like 2-3 max every year and nearly all of them had forgettable seasons anyway.

IIRC the only player who won MVP playing less than 65 games in the modern era was Embiid.

The media (who decides the awards) has no say in what the NBA does in terms of ruling. Silver is a guy who isn’t shy about scraping stuff if there’s blowback.

He has exactly the mvps he should have

THA BEASTTT

The reason was combating unnecessary load management but the vast majority of superstars don’t do that but had real and unfortunate injuries.

Not only is it a band aid it’s a shitty band aid because players who are genuinely hurt miss the threshold by a bit.

Adam Silver will do everything except reduce the number of games.

You’ve gotta be an idiot to think it makes sense to omit Jokic or SGA off the All-NBA teams entirely if they play 64 games. Just mind numbing stupidity. That’s still the signficant majority of the season. The rule is dumb, if he plays 45 games he probably isn’t making a team anyways. It’s totally unnecessary.

It’s a terrible rule that only appeals to Reddit circlejerkers.

Totally missing the point.