“He stuck his entire hand through the rim…honestly, that’s a great way to defend floaters”
-JJ Redick on grabbing the net after no-call
Touching the rim isn’t an instant goaltend, it’s only if it causes the ball to take an unnatural bounce. The same thing happened at the end of GSW vs OKC on 11/3/2023 and they explained it pretty well there.
leaving it up to humans to judge in real time at that point, is kinda dumb. the smallest imperfection can completely change the bounce. maybe it should be instant goaltend
Kind of reminds me of how the NFL used to let refs judge if a wideout would have been able to get both feet in bounds if they were shoved out of bounds when catching the ball in the air. You don’t want refs to have too much room for judgement
That plus slapping backboards should be auto goal tends.
Lebron always does this
Rule 11 Basket interference - goaltending
H. Vibrate the rim, net or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce, or bend or move the rim to an off-center position when the ball is touching the ring or passing through.
The goal definitely moved when he touched the rim, this should’ve been basket interference
It looks a bit short but the rim is drfinitely moving as the ball hits it
Making the rim move slightly by touching it or the net is 100000% a violation. If it doesn’t move, then yeah it’s good.
So, by precedence, would you want floaters or any shots around the rim to be defended like this? If so, then I agree no basket interference.
Are you dumb? It only wasn’t a goaltend because he did nothing to affect the trajectory of the ball. Sometimes the refs make awful calls but this is not one of them. I’m sure it would’ve been a goaltend if his hand was in the net much later than it already was. Luckily for him, he jumped way too early.
Seriously what are these replies, his hand goes nowhere near the ball
It’s also like, that ball was never going in, it was always going to hit front rim and bounce away from the hoop.
Goaltends are still goaltends even if they weren’t going to make it in.
This doesn’t seem to be a goaltend for a different reason.
You’d think it would be common sense lol
Good point of reference for where the hoop knowledge is for a good number of the people regularly here. And apparently JJ too
So you can stick your hand through rim now huh? That makes for an interesting defense strategy
How would it change defensive strategy? You still can’t touch the ball or alter the rim so there’s zero benefit
It’s up to the interpretation of the ref on whether or not it affects the bounce of the ball. That’s a horrible way to officiate. I would do this against bron, Steph, and anyone else who you believe it’s automatic at that range if the only penalty is maybe a goaltend
Let us know when you’re suiting up, curious to watch
Now making his NBA DEBUT HAILING FROM REDDIT.COM BIG-WORM.
If you did that you would let the opponent score more points than they would if you didn’t. You think the refs wouldn’t blow their whistle every time against a guy doing this over and over? No one shoots 100%.
Can you read, my child?
It hasn’t been used much yet but it certainly could be an efficient way to defend and I think the Celtics should implement it more
Yeah you right you guys only lost by 20 then not 22.
Buddy just accept that your coach is a moron hired only because the GOAT of morons had him on his podcast
After seeing JJs pretentious podcasts Lakers fans think he’s a savant 😂 tbf anyone loss like a genius after Ham, but Reddick trick yall
Idk why people are still on this. Game wasn’t close, the call was correct, and there’s a much more terrible goal tend they could be complaining about.
Because Laker fans need excuses for why they lost to a better team
Laker fans are desperate to deflect attention from the fact that a 6 ft. point guard dominated their entire team, told court side fans to stfu, and embarrassed the franchise on “Pat Riley” day with so many Lakers vets in attendance. It was glorious to watch!
It’s all they got at this point, let em have it.
SGA missing a few games preventing them from clip farming him created a rift in the ecosystem
Meh game was close for three quarters but even if we were ahead I can still see smart missing that string of threes and losing it for us in the fourth so I’m not sour about the loss as a Lakers fan.
As an NBA fan with the other goal tend, two clear push offs and more subtle ones, fouls on Jake on his dunk, punch to AR’s nuts, elbow to Smart’s face, it’s difficult to watch and not get frustrated. It’s exactly this sort of calling that has ended up with the recent fights on the court and surely we don’t actually want that?
It was close at the time. Minus 2 points due to no call, then a plus-one on the other end and a tech. So it would have been a 5 point game with a goal-tending call, but instead went to double digits.
Whether he touched the rim or not, that floater didn’t have a chance of going in. Btw a missed goal-tend call doesn’t justify getting dogwalked for the remainder of the game.
If, if, if…
I hear you, Ser Eustace.
Nobody force him to get a tech,
And this is only a problem because your team gives up the second they go down by double digits lmao.
You’re insufferable. Lakers were never in this.
it doesn’t matter if is close or not. just blow the whistle. follow the rules. if it’s becoming too complicated, simplify it. in any part of the world is a goaltend
Imagine being this troubled
It wouldn’t be a goaltend anywhere in the world because the shot wasn’t altered
Typical r/nba. Games should be officiated consistently regardless of score.
Call want correct an it was one of many missed calls against Lakers
So if a dude dunks and touches the rim, does he get a goaltend when the teams switch sides? Because that would have about as much effect on the ball as Queta did. You’re just salty the Lakers are trash and need to make excuses about it.
Wow, if a couple of those goes your way you only lose by 17!
blah blah, lakers got hammered by the celtics. cry about it.
On Pat Riley night, in front of the showtime Laker greats in their home court no less. Last night was chef’s kiss
& we all thank you for your service
FUCK LA
FUCK ME
please
anyone
It’s always the same story! LeBron breaks another milestone record but the lakers are in the gutter!
What record? 43000 points wasn’t a record held by anyone. He “broke” Kareem scoring record some years back and that’s that.
More points in a quarter with son and dad on the court! Hahaha
I think they lost to okc when he beat Kareem’s record lol
And it’s extra embarrassing when you factor in how unusually bad Boston normally is on big nights.
Like a jersey retirement game is basically a scheduled loss for us.
There were a few years that if Pierce showed up to support them, they would get absolutely demolished.
Damn gotta suck if ur coach doesnt know the rules
Especially after spending 20 years in the league.
Tbf, I don’t think JJ was ever to concerned about the specifics of goaltending rules.
I wonder how many lifetime career dunks he has
seems only 1 in the nba
Although people were claiming he had a couple in college in the comments.
Especially when he pretends he’s gods gift to basketball
And acting like he’s a basketball sophont.
Savant* and that title is held exclusively for Brad Stevens.
“A sophont is a creature with human or higher-level intelligence, capable of complex reasoning, self-awareness, and abstract thought. Often used in sci-fi to describe aliens, advanced AI, or uplifted animals.”
Maybe not what he meant but it’s technically correct.
Well he can’t exactly rip into his players the way he’d like so he needs to find his outlet somewhere
Well we all know he doesn’t respect the history of the game so
Why is it so hard for Lakers fans to understand that a 4 foot floater that was FRONT RIMMED was never going in. His hand going into the net, not touching the ball and not moving the rim in any significant way had no effect on the miss.
You should be angry that your center is garbage and can’t make a shot that most HS varsity centers make.
PS. Pritchard wants to know how his ass tastes, Lakers Nation.
players slapping the backboard has more effect than that did.
Nv understood how you can slap the backboard and not be called goaltending, especially on bank shots
It is one of the most common goaltending calls and does get called all the time.
Incidental contact with the backboard is not a goaltend, and you see people get away with that sometimes because it doesn’t stop the ball from going in, but slapping the backboard in a way that could affect the bounce of the ball or shake the backboard/basket is always a goaltend.
This is what happens when you spoil kids and give them everything they want. As soon as 1 thing doesn’t go their way they throw a temper tantrum
I love watching lakers games. This happens alll the time.
Luka cries then gets a tech, then someone defends Luka and gets tech then in 5 mins JJ gets a tech.
Then lakers fans be like “REFS HATE US”
Weak mental team
It’s so wild for a team like the Lakers , that has most definitely received the most help from the league/refs over the last 30+ years, to have their fans blaming the refs. They’d be somewhere around a 9-10 seed currently if they were officiated like everyone else.
JJ probably has like 5 techs total as a head coach lol you don’t watch the Lakers very much
He’s got 4 this season, but it’s just an example, replace him w Austin or smart or anyone else. Y’all get plenty of crying techs
Lol that dude just made things up just to force his narrative.
Lakers are becoming the cry babies of the league between Bron, Luka and Reddick they always crying about something
Don’t forget about Austin Reaves
They don’t have to worry about Ayton crying. Guy does not care what happens on the court. Probably forgot about the loss already.
Becoming?
Loved the play where Luka hits a 3 and falls down and starts complaining on the ground while the Celtics run and get an easy layup. Wish there were replays because it really didn’t even look like he got fouled at all but he fell
Oh the same thing Jaylen Brown did on that one drive in the 2nd half but you won’t mention it?
Good thing DeAndre Ayton is just a chill guy who lowkey doesnt give af
Glad to see antiwork is alive and well.
Seriously, idk how anyone can stand to watch that team, they’re like the big 3 of cry babies
Lost by 22 btw. 10 goaltends wouldn’t save you.
It was a 10 point game at halftime, actually it would have
Garbage time is irrelevant
Well lakers were down 22 when they emptied the bench which is when garbage time starts.
The way the Lakers played it felt like garbage time from tip off low key
Was the whole third quarter garbage time?
That really could have helped! 111-91 is much better
In the extended version of this clip JJ’s goes into say the Lakers would’ve shot/played better after this call, if not for the tears in their eyes
He’s got a point. Doesn’t change the fact that the shot wasn’t going in and they got blown out by 22. Lol.
I’m assuming he answered a specific question by a reporter though, so what was he supposed to do? Not explain how he felt about it?
But if that basket is scored at the time it should have been… it would have been a 5 point game. Instead, Boston got a 5 point swing out of that call because Brown completed an And-1 on the other end. I don’t care what anyone says about it not effecting the shot. If a man of Quetta’s strength grabs the mesh the way he did, the rim would consequently move as well, which it did while the ball was in the air. This has been called so many times previously so this was an occasion where the refs just wanted to save their ass.
the shot wasn’t even close dog it wasn’t a goaltend it was just an ugly brick in an ugly blowout lakers loss
doesn’t matter how his shot was… if that’s a call where Queta does that while Sengun is throwing up his short ass floaters, then you would want that call too. Context of the game matters and I am not blaming our loss on this blown call at all but stuff like this set horrible precedence as to what defenders can do.
the context of the game is you got your ass whooped by 22 points to a team missing their best player.
the rule is “you can’t Vibrate the rim, net or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce, or bend or move the rim to an off-center position when the ball is touching the ring or passing through.”
his hand doesn’t cause the dogshit brick of a shot to bounce unnaturally, & the rim isn’t moving.
If you want to play that game😂 This same Celtics team did the same thing to the Rockets on their home floor and guess what…. they didn’t have Brown or Tatum playing that game as well. All I am saying is that’s not how you want teams to defend any sort of shots around the rim but you wanna come with that sort of energy😭 At least the Lakers still have a championship window as long as Luka is on our roster… Houston got bigger problems to fry right now like GetOffMyDickerson. Stupid Rockets fan stay in your place
This is the 2nd time lakers got shitted on by the celtics this season. You got 2 L’s to the Celtics by a combined -43 points.
Rockets are 1-1 against them and +6 in point differential. dont try to lump in rockets with the dogshit lakers who, if they had average free throw differential, would be on their 4th straight season at the bottom of the lottery. definition of fraud team. entire western conference wants an easy lakers matchup in round 1, if lakers don’t fall off into play in game.
Garbage time doesn’t matter.
It was a close game before the refs took over
Lakers fans complaining about the refs will always be hilarious.
Lakers suck. Move on
Even with this missed call, the lakers wouldn’t have won. The Celtics are the superior team
Who’s going to win? The Celtics. Do you want to know why? Because the Celtics are the BALLS.
Because there’s no other reason why.
Disagree, that call was game changing. I think there is a good chance the league overturns the victory.
Yeah and fouling players during multiple instances helped. Celtics can complain about not getting calls but it’s pretty clear that worked out for them pretty well this time.
Oh did the poor Lakers not get their typical whistle last night? LeBron looked LeCooked. Lukas fat ass still planted on the ground complaining to refs.
The lakers got cooked because reaves can not guard Pritchard. Simple as that. Also the lakers benefit from more corruption than any other sports league on the planet.
And the inverse…Pritchard CAN guard Reaves.
People seem to think being 6’1” makes him a defensive liability but ignore how hard he is to move and how he keeps his hands active to disrupt big man switches.
Many front court players have talked about how much they hate playing against him.
He’s such a pest on defense. Active hands, moves his feet well and is a heck of a lot stronger than he looks
Lakers are trash. And I’m a Kings fan saying that.
Our trash is something you’d pray for
Cry, bitch
The refs messed up a lot during this game.
Ah so that’s why you lost by 20 something right?
u lost by a million dude, stop blaming the refs.
Ok we give you that one, now is 111-91
Damn. They should’ve lost by 20 and not 22
I think the ref looked at the play and deemed, if he did not stick his hand through the rim, the shot would STILL have clanked off.
Poor lakers. Maybe the league will conspire again to send them a top 5 player for a bag of chips like Dallas did
What makes this a great way to defend floaters? I don’t understand what he means by that?
It’s a joke
I wish the NBA would adopt the Euro rules about the rim and goaltending. The NBA game play would improve for fans I believe.
Still a big loss.
Poor Lakers can never catch a break 😭
Damn! He blocked the 25 point floater!?!? If they hit that they could have been in the game!!
Okay let’s give JJ 2 points because someone grabbed the net! Then what about the rest of the game? What’s your excuse to sucking all the time ? You got Bron and Luka and your team sucks!!!! What’s your excuse ? Did someone grab the net again ?
The explained why it wasn’t a goal tend. Maybe JJ didn’t hear it yet
Final score 111-89. Im sure the “goal trending” wasn’t the problem
That would have swung the score 23 points and the Lakers would have won. He had every right to be pissed
It is embarrassing that the entire franchise doesn’t know the goaltending rules. I’m not going to pretend that I knew this exact rule the whole time, but I’ve watched enough games to see this scenario before. How is there nobody on the Lakers who knows this? This is their job. It’s a hobby for me and I know it.
Does bro know the rules? Doesn’t seem like it
My god what a baby, him and Luka…
Ball would.not have gone in so no goaltending
Still talking about this? They lost by 20
Whether it’s the rule or not (FIBA states ball must be in cylinder also, unless I’m missing another rule), I feel like that’s gotta be an instant goal tend in the future. The idea defender can just hit a rim and make the net go from under to over and it be legal is funny to me, that’s absurd. You can get techs for hanging on the ring after coming out from a time out, but it’s okay to hit it? Interesting.
It’s so absurd even people who have been in the league for decades think it’s dumb.
JJ gotta go check the rule book again. That ain’t a goaltend, coach
You can’t rattle the rim before a shot
Watching Reddick jump was the highlight of the game
LeBron forgot to fall like he’d been shot after this.
Not a Lakers fan but this obviously is a goaltend regardless of the game context
Maybe worry about your center sleepwalking through games and your ‘wunderkind’ scorer complaining on defense so hard that he gives up transition buckets
Son, your team could not reach 90 fucking points against us. At home, with the ghost of pat Riley in attendance….
Lol Pritchard trashed the Lakers, just accept it and move in
That shot had no chance of going in. Unless you are a Lakers fan you are completely delusional. It’s amazing how armchair referees have no idea what they are talking about. It has to have affected the shot.
The “goaltend” is overlooking the fact that this was absolutely disgusting effort by Ayton. He got the rebound with no one near him, looked to pass for a couple seconds, before halfheartedly backing Brown down before settling for a disgusting half hook. If the dude had an ounce of motor or passion he’d take it to the rim for a layup or dunk. I’m so happy I don’t have to watch this guy on the regular, he’s the definition of unserious.
Maybe if he went to a team with a competent organization he might do something but I’m not sure what is left to even work with at this point.
That ball was never going in to begin with
The shot wasn’t going regardless and it wouldn’t have made a difference if it did.
Classic lakers.
anyone else just fucking hate jj redick?
Redick used to dunk (somewhat, barely, but still). crazy how much lower he got in that demonstration than his playing days, wow
Well, in his defense he was standing still, on street clothes and no warm up.
Also, he is 41. He probably only dunked when he was in his prime…
To be fair I’m 40, 6 inches shorter, was never a professional athlete, and can still grab the rim.
Doesn’t JJ have 1 career NBA dunk?
And 0 in college.
Obviously he could dunk in practice/warm-up.
This is false
Yep rules say you cannot vibrate the rim or net to cause an unnatural bounce. You can clearly see that queta vibrates the rim by hitting it and then yanks the net vibrating the rim even more causing the very unnatural bounce I would even call it supernatural.👻
Wasn’t just this. There were another 2 goaltends that were obvious. The one Lebron didn’t have was egregious
For the morons saying it’s one play, no it’s not.
That wasn’t the only goaltend and each time the Celtics scored on other end after the missed call
That’s a 10 point swing right there
Guess what the Celtics lead was at halftime? 10 points.
What happened in garbage time when game was over was irrelevant it was close game that refs swung
That’s not even counting the push offs, hacks and other missed calls they got away with
Aight fine call the goaltend. Dang it, we only won by 20 now instead of 22, boo hoo😞
Don’t you read? It was a 10 point swing!
/S
Do you guys think the play stops when goaltend isn’t called? It leads to a fast break, and there was 2 missed goaltends not 1
Sure but this is a hell of an extrapolation. Too many people really expect the refs to get every damn call right. Y’all need more zen in your life. Some calls go your way, some go the other way. In the end it probably evens out
That’s not how basketball works
I wish I could cope with my failures as well as you cope with this L
Laker fans may truly have brain damage it might be cruel and unusual to make fun of you guys if you are all this stupid.
Man i didnt know lakers fans didnt know math
I knew your fans were stupid but the play doesn’t stop when a goaltend isn’t called
Call the goaltends and pushoffs Brown likes to do and it’s an even game at halftime
Yall are bad ok. PP smoked u guys
well the officiating of celtics vs lakers are always bad it always favored the celtics well thats how it is you gonna move on and play better in next game than complaining well frustation is thier but you need to move on and play better in the remaining game
Lol. No, wait, lmao