This narrative that admonishes Paul’s career because he never won a ring is exactly why Durant went to the Warriors for the easy rings. The sports media’s championship obsession is out of hand.

Clearly factual.

Paul spent 10 seasons of his career in the top 5 for EPM. Even Lebron “only” has 9, although more seasons as number 1 than anyone else and clearly took regular seasons off after 2015.

His Clippers between 2013-2017 peaked between the 10th-20th best offense ever via relative offensive rating. Virtually only behind dynasties, Lebron teams and Nash teams. Didn’t fall off virtually at all in the post season, but their defense did, arguably a result of roster construction.

Of course the Clippers sometimes had bad backup point guards, as did the Hornets. But he was very impactful on winning for longer than the vast majority of players in NBA history.

It’s a shame he didn’t win, but still one of the best players of his era. Bron, Steph, KD, CP3, Harden the best guys of their time.

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point

Damn straight. One of the best point guards to ever play the game. A lot of greats have passed through this game without winning.

Whichever team CP3 was on, It was playoff bound. It’s crazy what he was able to do.

What CP3 did for OKC and Phoenix alone is a testament to him as a winner, especially because he did it past his prime. Took over young teams and made them better than they ever should have been.

I think it’s more important what CP3 thinks about himself. Does he consider himself a winner?

I get Draymond praising CP3 for his career and ability but an actual championship is the true validation where you don’t even need this discussion.

Wait, is Draymond… complimenting someone? Giving them their flowers? Other than Steph I mean?

It was cold in Phoenix this morning but I didn’t think the entire planet was reversed

Full intended title (it was too long for title restriction - 300 characters):

Draymond Green talking about Chris Paul retirement “A lot of people say because CP3 didn’t win a championship, he is not a winner. When you compete against him what he did with teams, was one of the ultimate winners you just need so much luck and things to go your way in order to win a championship. But man CP3 is one of the ultimate winners, incredible to compete against him, incredible to call him a friend, just to play a part of his career and not that I played a part of making his career, but being a competitor in his career and helping as he built his story. Was incredible to watch”

Injuries during the Playoffs held him back, 2015 and 2018 were his best chances to win

Hey, at least something I can agree with Draymond.

Winning a championship requires so many things to go your way, a lot of people just don’t realize that.

CP3 made every team he was on better. It’s why Laker fans were devastated when the trade didn’t go through. Him and Kobe would’ve won rings together. A damn shame.

Chris Paul is one of the best point guards of all time, who also happened to have some of the worst injury luck of all time - especially in terms of timing of injuries

Two NBA players famous for punching people in the nuts.

One of the biggest “what could have been in recent years” was the last time the Rockets lost to the Dubs in the WCF. Seemed like the Rockets had them on the ropes, and then both Harden and CP3 got injured…..

It does help playing your whole career with a generational talent that perfectly suits your strenghts and weaknesses.

Who is saying CP3 isn’t a winner?

The Clippers are the most embarrassing organization in the league. Cp3 has always been an asshole. You don’t dangle that carrot and then reneg.

But I’m not surprised, they’ve screwed over both of their franchise GOATs Black Griffin and CP3. I bet they woulda did DAJ dirty too but he’s too jovial and wholesome to care.

I remembered rooting for Rockets during their clash with GSW. He went down due to injury. Rockets was totally collapsed in Game 7. What a big if ?

The goat debate caused this

Chris Paul was 100% a winning player. Everywhere he went aside from maybe the Clippers at the very end were made better by him as a player.

Gotta agree. CP3 is one of very few players in NBA history who could make a bad team good. He did it over and over even way past his prime. Clippers, OKC, Suns all immediately got better.

Clippers were thought of as the clear cut worst franchise in the NBA before CP3. Now they get made fun of for playoff chokes but that reputation is still way better than what they were pre-Paul. Like it’s honestly hard to explain to newer NBA fans but the pre-CP3 Clippers (Blake Griffin deserves credit too) were the worst parts of the modern New Orleans Pelicans, Sacramento Kings, the James Dolan Knicks, and the Michael Jordan Bobcats combined. They were a place with horrendous ownership where it was unthinkable to win. Also they shared an arena with the most popular and successful franchise of the last 50 years.

Monty Chris and Phoenix was his best bet.

Imagine winning 50 to 60 games your entire career losing in the playoffs and someone call you not a winner lmao

Rings discussion can be made when you’re talking about top 10-12 guys?

But it shouldn’t disqualify your all time greatness.

I hate CP3 but he made pretty much every team that he was on better, and you can’t do that if you’re just some bum

The problem is fans don’t understand how hard it is to win at a professional level. It takes a good front office that puts the right players on the team, health, luck amongst other things. Thinking on player can be the sole reason a team wins rings is nuts. KD gets that same type of hate when he moves teams. CP had a great career and he’s a high IQ player. It’s unfortunate how the end of his career went.

Draymond with a good take? Against a long time rival no less? Is it April already?

This after he called Kenyon Martin an underachiever for trolling Nick Young on his championship. I need a break bruh.

Best winner that never won

Idk man, I understand that CP3’s career is kinda complicated, but dude spent 20 damn years in the league and played for several teams that were capable of winning a championship, at what point can we say that maybe the reason you didn’t win is because you are in fact not the “ultimate winner”?

CP3’s whole career was taking teams further than they had any right to go and receiving all the blame when they finally got bounced. Even though they overperformed all the way there.

He’d prob have a ring or 2 if it wasn’t for Draymond’s warriors lol

I think CP3 is different than most ringless greats because his game rose in the playoffs. Guys like Russ or Harden are much more regular season accolades where CP3 was just as good if not better in the postseason.

So I think it’s less about rings and more about regular season vs postseason and CP3 was a postseason great.

He’s our Sir Charles, not the worst outcome truly

Idc 

He’s right. Sometimes it’s just about getting drafted to the right place.

Draymond probably doesn’t have a ring if he’s drafted by the Pelicans/Hornets either.

Same as John Stockton but they are both still pos’s

Like, there are two main points here. Both can be true at the the same time. CP3 made teams better, but not enough to win…basically anything. That, by definition, is not a winner. He just isn’t. The second point is Draymond having any opinion on this whatsoever. That dude got carried so fucking hard by Steph for so fucking long he basically owns a summer cottage in that dude’s colon he lives in year round. The mere idea Draymond had anything to do with winning those championships is idiotic. He’s Darko who didn’t get traded.

Fellow dick punchers unite!

I’m a simple man: I see a Draymon Green post, I downvote it.

I’m a simple man, I see Draymond talking, I downvote.

Nah dray dudes hella overrated, old heads like him cos he pass the ball

That’s why Draymond never liked to play when Steph didn’t. Not enough luck

Curry’s backpack has spoken

Lowry better

Cp3 was a dirty player and seemingly was dispensable as he played on how many teams and got traded how many times?

Cool and all but nobody talks about these people in a decade. CP3 will be placed lower than he should be because he didnt win

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Misquoted the title. At least take the time to write out all of the words in their entirety

So Draymond is saying he himself was just really lucky

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

draymonds sub has more rings tho

Is anyone surprised that Draymond is a fan of nut puncher Chris Paul?

That luck? Kevin Durant

Eh hes still a solid tier below guys like lebron kd russ harden etc.

Obligatory Draymond is a bitch.

Stop paying attention to this clown. Y’all are putting him in a position where is going to be the face of the NBA show when either Chuck, Shaq, or Kenny finally retire. We will be stuck listening to the piece of shit for decades to come… 🤦🏻‍♂️

Yea, Draymond certainly knows about having a ton of surrounding luck to win championships.

Is Draymond right? 100%.

Am i down voting every post of him talking? 100%

Fuck Draymond.