No-Ranger3356

309 | 9 hours ago

gotta be the most remarkable franchise turnaround in NBA history.

2 years ago they were like 8-46 at the allstar break and had lost 28 games in a row.

last year they added 30 wins

now theyre on pace for 60+

confused-koala | Pistons

84 | 9 hours ago

It’s a great turnaround, but really a complete indictment of Monty Williams. That team should never have been 8-46 bad. A lot of those guys are still here

supes1 | Celtics

12 | 4 hours ago

Monty made debatable decisions and had a terrible season obviously, but you can’t overlook all the stuff he was dealing with:

Extremely young roster
Lots of injuries
Awful floor spacing
Confidence collapse of young players (a massive losing streak will do this)
Likely front-office development mandates

Pistons today and Pistons during Monty’s tenure were very different teams. Even the players on both squads have seen a ton of development since then.

That’s not to say Monty did a good job (he very clearly did not), but it would have been a challenging situation for any coach.

MasterpieceNo8477

2 | 34 minutes ago

Monty is the only coach who thinks killian hayes is a starter.

MLGLies | Pistons

6 | 5 hours ago

A complete con artist. Money aside, it’s such an indictment of his morals to potentially tank the careers of players just to get out of a job, which is what he did in my personal opinion.

Didn’t want the job - got offered the bag - took it and did his best to get fired, damn everyone else.

Cudizonedefense | Heat

6 | 5 hours ago

Didn’t his wife get cancer right after getting hired

Sauce4243 | Thunder

2 | 4 hours ago

There was something just before the got hired aswell he didn’t originally want the job but they offered a stupid amount of money to turn down

TeamRAF19

1 | 3 hours ago

No. His wife had cancer which is why he did not want to take the job. But Gores offered even his wife’s hospitalization as a perk aside from the boatload of money.

PJCR1916 | Bulls

1 | 4 hours ago

Cade was right about that team not being 2-28 bad

buttsoup_barnes | DET

49 | 9 hours ago

I’d be happy for a 55 win season. Our March and April sched is brutal.

Barnyard_Rich | Pistons

34 | 9 hours ago

Fun fact, the top seven teams in remaining strength of schedule are:

Denver
OKC
Minnesota
Chicago
Boston
Brooklyn
Detroit

So, while we are in for a tough haul, both OKC and Boston have harder schedules.

BurstPanther | Nuggets

26 | 9 hours ago

Denver, OKC & Wolves being in the same division is rough

spraypaint23 | Lakers

2 | 2 hours ago

The team with the most conference finals in the last 3 seasons among that group is not who anyone thinks it is to give a sense of how hard this group is.

nomitycs | Warriors

4 | 8 hours ago

Found it amusing you singled out Boston alongside OKC

They have Tatum returning to the 4th best team in the league???

actually-potato | Pistons

3 | 5 hours ago

OKC is notable for being the #1 team in the league while Boston is our most immediate competitor for the Eastern Conference 1 seed

nomitycs | Warriors

1 | 5 hours ago

and Denver has the best player in the world

You’re 6 games free of Boston

buttsoup_barnes | DET

1 | 8 hours ago

Does it consider back to backs too? I remember we have a handful to close out the season

KuyaJohnny | SAS

1 | 4 hours ago

no, it only considers the records of the teams you have to play

see here: https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

Kaizerchief17 | Pistons

19 | 9 hours ago

JB Bickerstaff deserves way more noise for COTY with the way this man turned us around (but at the same time I also don’t want that curse on us so…)

UnkleGiovanni | Pistons

14 | 9 hours ago

He’s by far the favorite in every sportsbook

tarunpopo

15 | 9 hours ago

Without stew and Duren going into a hard stretch it won’t be good. I think with Duren back and Paul this team can hold on because Paul reed is fucking good.

MrBhyn | Celtics

12 | 9 hours ago

I’ve been saying this. Those 28 loses weren’t bad losses. People laughed at Cade that year when he said they weren’t as bad as the record shows but it was true. They were losing those games because of the lack in experience and leadership. They just couldn’t close games.

OddToba

-19 | 9 hours ago

I feel like that doesn’t even compare to what OKC did the last 3ish years.

No-Ranger3356

27 | 9 hours ago

it’s similar, but their low point was not even close to as bad as the Pistons.

OKC went from 24 wins, to 40 wins, to 57 wins.

the Pistons went from 14 wins (and the worst losing streak ever), to 44 wins, and now on pace for 60+wins.

much more impressive.

Barnyard_Rich | Pistons

11 | 9 hours ago

JB COTY

I have nothing to add other than that.

Jukyla

8 | 9 hours ago

What did you forget about the historical losing season by the Pistons 2 years ago?

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

79 | 9 hours ago

What starting Paul Reed does to a mf

mcolwander90 | Pistons

29 | 8 hours ago

Pistons in 2021-22: 17-65

Pistons since signing Paul Reed: 84-51

Chessh2036 | Hawks

53 | 9 hours ago

There were people in the media who picked the Hawks to finish above the Pistons this year lol.

(Tbf I didn’t think we would finish above them, but I never thought we’d be this bad)

Motor-Platform-200

21 | 9 hours ago

they picked the Magic to be above us too lmao

flaming_burrito_ | Lakers

1 | 17 minutes ago

To be fair, in my mind both the Pistons and the Magic were sleeper teams that would be better than expected this year for similar reasons. Both have a lot of young talent and looked like they were coming into their own more last season, and they were both scrappy defensive teams that just needed a bit more offensive juice to be truly good. Unfortunately the Magic undershot my expectations of them, and as it turns out their coach is kind of ass and they’ve regressed defensively. But the Pistons have done much better than I imagined they would, and I was already expecting them to be pretty good this season.

Straight_Collar_6015 | Pistons

13 | 9 hours ago

Saw a ton of the media projecting orlando, philly, and even the fucking pacers above us

Next-Supermarket9538

47 | 9 hours ago

Does this mean we are finally done with the posts comparing the Thunder’s record through x games to historically great teams? At least until next season?

SomeAntha90 | Pistons

37 | 9 hours ago

We been done for a few weeks now

Alkibiadeezs_Levine | Pistons

12 | 7 hours ago

Now we do it for the pistons

welmoe | Lakers

10 | 6 hours ago

Thunder went from seemingly untouchable to just another above average team.

flaming_burrito_ | Lakers

1 | 16 minutes ago

Injuries are truly the great equalizer in competition

ksn0vaN7

8 | 7 hours ago

That conversation ended when the they lost 3 straight games to the Spurs.

Wolfpac187 | OKC

1 | 4 hours ago

That died in like December

noend313 | Pistons

38 | 9 hours ago

Apparently you can have shit in Detroit?

Rocky-Rocker

30 | 9 hours ago

As we all expected heading into this season.

Alkibiadeezs_Levine | Pistons

3 | 7 hours ago

I did. I happen to actually watch pistons games

itssensei | Cavaliers

15 | 9 hours ago

I feel like a genius saying Pistons would be a top 3 seed in the offseason. 😎

tiorteD_snotsiP | Pistons

12 | 9 hours ago

YKTPWA!!

Serpico2 | 76ers

10 | 9 hours ago

I predict that all this media hype about the East being wide open will end up being a big nothing. DET will walk through the East without ever going to a 7th game.

Teeshirtandshortsguy | Pistons

20 | 8 hours ago

I’d love to see that, but I can’t help but feel like we’re this year’s Cavs. Not that the end result will be the same, but it feels like we’re giving more or less 100% effort out there. I don’t think we’re going to elevate in the playoffs, and other teams probably will.

I’m pretty confident we’ll at least win a series, but I definitely think it’ll be tough after that.

That being said, I also think the hype around a “wide open” east is silly. It seems like one of Boston, NY, or Detroit are gonna win the East, which is about the same amount of contenders that the West has.

OvenAggressive5587

10 | 8 hours ago

I’m far more scared of the Cavs with Harden than I am of the Knicks

aqphs | Pistons

4 | 8 hours ago

I disagree we took the Knicks to the brink without Stew last season

A ton of our guys took a leap this year. We dog walked Toronto yesterday without Stew, Duren, Ron, or Huerter.

Best depth in the league outside OKC. Arguably the best defense. Those go a long way in the playoffs. Not scared of anyone in the east, I think we’ll be competitive as hell.

Aidanator800 | Hornets

7 | 8 hours ago

We’ll have to see. Last year people were saying that Cavs-Celtics were a lock for the Eastern Conference Finals, and then neither team ended up making it past the second round.

nickgev | Celtics

0 | 3 hours ago

Reverse jinxing it early on. I, for one, think the 6ers are playing in the Finals this year. 25-30 mins of Embiid a game seems sustainable and VJ is gonna win you games solely off of being a DOG. Your roster is deep and I’ve zero confidence in Mike Brown taking the Knicks to the Finals.

I can only get so erect over the idea of a 6ers - Nuggets matchup in the Finals.

IncaseAce | Thunder

10 | 9 hours ago

I miss Shai

AnonimousMn471 | Bucks

13 | 9 hours ago

The Ous is loose

Kindly_Letterhead_98

4 | 9 hours ago

50 + team without Shai lol

justFramy | Thunder

4 | 8 hours ago

doubtful

darthnyan39 | DET

7 | 9 hours ago

Insane that bickerstaff brought Detroit from 14 to 44 wins in one year, and likely 44 to 60+ in year two. And he isn’t even on the radar for COTY 🤦‍♂️

UnkleGiovanni | Pistons

15 | 9 hours ago

He’s literally the favorite to win

DismalComparison2625

2 | 8 hours ago

It’s a tossup between him and Mitch.

Both have done an incredible job. If Detroit gets the #1 seed he should get it imo.

righteous4131 | Bucks

3 | 7 hours ago

I hope they win the finals tbh.

MLGLies | Pistons

3 | 5 hours ago

It’s funny, but it feels like all four Detroit sports teams are on almost identical trajectories - albeit on slightly different timelines.

Fun time to be a Detroit fan after a long drought

nahbien | Pistons

1 | 3 hours ago

When Detroit was first in the east after 10 games played, the narrative was that we only beat bad teams. I wonder if those same people think the same still.

SurpriseDonovanMcnab | Pistons

1 | 44 minutes ago

Still a lot of season left, but it feels nice after what we went through a couple of seasons ago.

With the Bucks win over the Thunder, the Pistons enter the All-Star break with the fewest loses in the NBA (with 3 fewer games played)