Harden refused being a replacement a couple years back after being snubbed.

Harden is an absolutely enormous snub. League must hate him cause ain’t no way lol.

Harden been better then fox and ingram hasn’t made it

Wonder how they determined BI over those two. Harden/Randle have better stats. BI has a better record than Harden but not Randle:

• Brandon Ingram 21.⁸⁄₅.⁷⁄₃.7 (47.⁴⁄₃₆.⁵⁄₈₃.7) 31 wins/22 losses
• James Harden: 25.⁴⁄₄.⁸⁄₈.1 (42.0/35.0/90.2) 24 wins/23 losses
• Julius Randle: 22.³⁄₇.0/5.4 (49.²⁄₃₂.⁵⁄₈₂.3) 32 wins/22 losses

ok but Ingram got that swag

also I’m like 90% sure that Adam Silver just looks at which remaining player had the most coach votes from the same voting sample.

No shit. Randle and Harden are much better.

Lmao of course he would include his favorite player Bam Adebayo. He’s not close this year!

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Raps fan, Homer bias of course, but it’s important to recognize Raptors are a winning team with Ingram playing a key role.

They weren’t without him. He’s not the only reason of course, but he plays a major role in the Raptors improvement this year.

Interesting to call out Bam as a “winning player” when the Raptors have a better record with him as 2nd best player than the Heat with Bam as their 2nd best player (on the season; Powell’s an all-star) not playing his best depite having the best coach in the league.

Toronto went from bottom of the east to top 4 in the conference with the only significant addition beng BI, while also dealing with injuries of their two starters. If you watch Raptor games you’d know their offence is cooked without him

Winning & team success is rewarded in All Star selections

How good is Harden, if his team was bottom of the West/hugely underperforming most of pre-allstar break?

The Spurs are 2nd in an unbelievably hard West, in large part due to Fox, & the Raptors are hugely exceeding expectations - in large part due to Ingram. Deserved selections

Harden is obviously fair. But his reasoning for other guys being “he’s a winner” is just weak lol.

BI the leading scorer on the 4 seed. Raps would not be there without him. Not crazy at all for him to be an all star

gmafb with this “just a winning player” logic.

Raptors have already won more games than last year, and there’s really one reason for that.

“Has Ingram contributed more in his 400 extra minutes - maybe”???? He’s basically played 10 additional games, and it’s “maybe”?

I think you can make good arguments that the raptors aren’t really good enough to get two all stars, or maybe those players are marginally better (maybe not). But Zach is twisting himself into a pretzel with this nonsense.

Well Pascal Siakam shouldn’t be over any of these guys.

I got no issue with Randle and Harden over him, but its clear there’s no consistent process

It’s just no way to make everybody happy so I think all of these conversations are pointless

Many players deserved it. INCLUDING Ingram. The entire offence is predicated on his gravity as a scorer. He deserved it. As well as a few others

bi gets double more than randle. his shots are harder. scottie doesnt draw attention like ant does especially when scottie is a non shooter.

i’ll give you harden but pretty sure he refused being a replacement in the past.

What’s with all this hatin’? BI’s game is soooo smooooth

Harden and Randle absolutely. Every other name there is a stretch to say the least

i’ll listen to zach’s takes on toronto basketball once he says one single neutral or positive thing about them this entire season in which they have surprised people

bi “not being a winning player” but is 90% of the reason we have already passed last season’s win total is hilarious

Zach Lowe fell off since he joined the ringer

Julius Randle

Weird arguments, imo.

Ingram is the leading scorer on a team that’s having a great year.

Randle is a #2 option. Very good player, but Ingram deserves the selection this year.

Bam is a #3 offensive option this year. And he’s a center who only averages 0.7 blocks per game. I’m starting to think that he gets more credit than he deserves.

MPJ, really? The same analyst who likes Bam because he’s a “winner”, chooses MPJ and his 15-38 Nets? And, picking an injured MPJ - does that really make sense?

Mobley? He’ll have plenty of chances throughout his career, but it’s fine to miss one all star game during an injury-plagued season.

Derrick White? Come on.

Knueppel? Nah. Ingram has better overall stats, a better record, and is more impactful on both ends of the floor. But I fully expect Knueppel to be an all-star in another year or two.

Randle should have been the choice.

It’s about entertainment value. His boo is going to the celeb game and him being there just gonna generate more content for the influencers to post. Women eat that up and that’s the market the league always wants to tap. Should invite Coco Jones to perform too.

There are some other questionable choices, like the one that got in likely because of the fanatics link (good player mid season can’t convince me that coaches actually vote him in).

Lmao bro threw in Bam and thought we wouldn’t notice

Yeah was a very odd choice

…does anyone care at this point?

Randle should’ve gotten in over him

I know the Jazz are the Jazz, but how is Lauri not being mentioned with nearly 27 PPG?

Are we being serious Julius Randle come on now

I respect Lowe for naming players that he thinks should have been put over Ingram.

Yo guys, how come no new pods are on Zachs Youtube channel? Is the pod spotify exclusive?

Should’ve been Shedeur

Ingram is better than half the all stars . Should’ve been elected with Barnes in the first place…

Brandon Ingram deserves it. Sorry

all this nonsense around Harden being ‘snubbed’ shows me that commentators don’t care about defense. They just want flashy offense. They (and commenters here) are dumb.

being an all star and being a winner are not the exact same thing Zach

Ugh. I like Zach Lowe but he’s wrong on this one. Bam? Really?

If we’re taking minutes and games played out, Embiid should absolutely be on there

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Probably helped beings over 0.500

It’s under the radar because nobody cares about the ASG anymore.

Michael porter jr?

Im more pissed with Fox over Randle

This isn’t quite shedeur to the pro bowl levels of idiocy, but the nba couldn’t even bother to get someone from the same conference?

Zach Lowe on borderline provocative take tour.

“Kawhi has been the best player in the wildest for the last 2.5 months.”

“Brandon Ingram for All-star injury replacement is a shocking choice.”

I think when they made the original selections the new format played a huge part in who they chose, they probably have that in mind as the pick replacements

BI has been playing arguably the best ball of his career on a team that turned it around in a big way. There are guys they couldve chosen over him but I’m not mad at this pick

You can’t say he doesn’t deserve to be there, he’s an all star, people always get snubbed 

Kon over BI is wild I love it

It’s ok to be wrong.

Let my guy have this, Zach.

He’s inviting the wrath of… what does he call us? The Raptors soccer moms?

Now tell how Segun also dont deserve it¹

Y’all need to check out the fiasco that is the NFL and shedeur fucking sanders. Dude is t even the best backup QB on his own team and got the nod.

Nobody cares. Not even Ingram.

Reaves another one

I mean they want players to try to win and the clippers went on a great run and then Harden demanded a trade. It’s probably because of the PR of that but even if it’s not Harden Ingram was a surprising choice

Ingrams stats pretty consistent and he can’t rebound.

Ya a head scratcher for sure. Must be one of those things they felt like rewarding raps for being a really good team this year.

Obviously.

Brandon Ingram is basically a 6’9 Cam Thomas but a better teammate

How is Jalen Johnson not an all star? Not enough game played?

He’s a bigger star than the guys who named right now besides Harden because he’s dating Glorilla. It makes sense to put him in the all-star game for the girlies who know his name because of their relationship. And he’s not totally undeserved stats-wise, Lowe is talking more “who he’d rather have” instead of who have been the biggest stars in the league this particular season. BI’s been a big part of the season.