My least favorite reality show spin-off

feeling an increasing eye of distaste from Warriors management and coaches when he’d work on drills to improve his on-ball scoring and playmaking in front of them.

i’d be giving him the side eye of distaste too if the guy who doesn’t have a handle, is lazy on defense, not an offball shooter, 6’7 and cant rebound, has an ungodly near 20% TOV% this season, shoots 70% of his shots within 10 feet yet has a worse TS% than Podz who gets regular grenades, is working on his “on-ball scoring and playmaking” in drills in practice.

motherfucker, you don’t look to pass EVER. you average 2 assists. How about we start working on your motor, your defensive effort, your dribble hand off game, setting a screen thats not complete dogshit, literally anything that might make you a functional player beyond a tank commander wing on a dogshit team.

This guy is Cam Thomas but also a worse player with somehow 2x the attention.

The stuff about Lacob in the article is really interesting too, and I wonder how big a role he played in Kuminga tuning out Kerr, either directly by what he said publicly or indirectly in the general belief that Kerr didn’t want him.

Shout out to Bob Meyers, who knew exactly when to bounce before things turned bad, in part due to decisions he was involved in.

Nobody won

Buddy, Kuminga got 22 million for doing absolutely nothing and will be signed by someone for a multi year deal at the MLE next offseason. The warriors chose the worst possible outcome but Kuminga did fine considering his former coach hated him

The hit pieces are here

Sure im sure Kuminga has his share of blame, but to still sign him in restricted free agency was just a pointless move and extended the bad situation. GSW tried to hold the position that Kuminga was valuable but unplayable. Just let him go & save us all the headache.

This relationship feels so much like a couple of the bad marriages I’ve seen of those around me. It’s obvious to every outsider that the relationship has run it’s course. There’s a clear path to splitting apart that would make sense from an outsider’s perspective. Yet no matter what other people say, both sides opt to stay in the bad relationship, until one day 911 gets called and restraining order is given and you just shake your head wondering why it’s allowed to get to this point.

How dare he and his family take too much free food from the family room? Who does he think he is? Giannis?

This guy might be the most talked about bench warmer of all time.  Like I have never seen a bench warmer have these many articles, postings and commentary on this guy. lol call me a hater 

I think Kuminga needs a new agent. They were complaining about playing time to the media in the middle of the 2023 playoffs and losing trust in Kerr, which is kinda crazy to create this type of discord while the playoffs are happening.

His agent didn’t recognize the market when extension talk first came up and they declined thinking they could do better. This was the same time that Jalen Green got a 3 year extension and I remember Draymond even commenting on his podcast that he was surprised they didn’t try to work out a similar deal.

The agent should want to push for more money, but should alao be able to recognize what the market is.

Reading this article, I come away surprised at the types of minor things Kuminga thought were digs at him. It comes across to me as very self-centered.

In the lead-up to free agency last July, nobody from the organization visited Kuminga, a restricted free agent, in Cleveland during a month of two-a-day workouts, which only reinforced his lack of belief in Kerr, Dunleavy and the organization’s desire to prioritize and develop him.

He choose a remote location far away from the team to spend his summer and then was insulted they didn’t visit?

Kerr was questioned about his choice to again remove Kuminga entirely from his rotation. Kuminga wanted to see the clip. “Happens to everyone in the league,” Kerr said. “Other than the stars.” Kuminga viewed that last quip as another subtle dig, sending the public another unnecessary reminder that Kuminga isn’t who he believes himself to be. “See,” Kuminga said. “That’s the s— I’m talking about. Why’s he gotta say that?”

The “quip” that Kuminga is insulted by here is a totally inoffensive clause that is necessary to make the statement true. Without it, the statement is ridiculously false.

If neither Butler nor Curry was on the court, they didn’t really have much creation, so get the ball up top to Pat Spencer and run some pick-and-roll. There was no mention of Kuminga. He steamed about it. “Those are all triggers,” Turner told ESPN. “Pokes.”

At some point if every mention is a trigger and every non mention is a poke, then there’s nothing anyone can say or not say without somehow insulting Kuminga cause he and his agent are just perpetually aggrieved.

Within that stretch, sources said Kuminga was asked to go onto the court four times, but he declined three mop-up duty opportunities and ruled himself out of the Thunder game on Jan. 2 because of back soreness after Kerr said he’d get a chunk of minutes with Curry, Butler and Green out. Kuminga, sources said, felt that they’d already quit on him and viewed the sudden request to go from ice cold and rotting on the end of the bench to a national TV date with the defending champions as a recipe to shame him. He was sore from weight work and declined their latest request to be the in-case-of-emergency option.

So he felt shamed when he didn’t get playing time and shamed when it was offered.

I don’t view other parties as blameless but I come away thinking that Kuminga is very unlikely to get along with his next coach. Unless the team is tanking as that’s the only situation where a team might give him what he wants in a huge role and unlimited runway but even that will be temporary.

I doubt very many others here will read it because people are over this story and understandably so. But it’s interesting to think about why this gets so much coverage. The same basic thing happened with Cam Thomas and the Nets and it received a fraction of the attention. But the Warriors are an organization that’s very open with the media, Kuminga’s agent was clearly happy to go on the record, and there’s enough audience appetite for news about the Warriors that it all the details and everybody’s side of the story end up being published.

so much noise on borderline NBA player Kuminga. The guy does not excel on anything particular, except put his name on the news as if he is some kind of ‘game changer’ player.

Tl;dr: Two toxic parties refusing to admit they’re wrong and intentionally making eachother’s lives worse

Kuminga should’ve worked on his handles and rebounding, would’ve done wonders for him. Hope he’s successful in ATL, but his attitude and character is on trial for the time being, like it or not.

Kuminga has low basketball IQ the Warriors had no choice but to move on

This saga bores me.

Nobody watched him play I feel like he was dumba s fuck wouldn’t pass would just drive set poor screens. It’s not that he didn’t fit the system I don’t think he could run the base flex offense at all at any point . Also defensively he had some presence but would be late sliding or on rotation at times I felt he could have been a better defender with his athleticism and length

That does not seem like a player that would last in the NBA.

Dont heavily follow the warriors but there is a world where he worked on the things the team wanted him to do while in the background working on the things he wanted to work on (iso scorer). Your coach could be right or wrong, but as a player you need to do what the team thinks they need from you.

What’s his role on the Hawks going forward?

If bro had gui santos motor and effort… he will be having the keys to the warriors future but yet here we are..

Kuminga might have one maybe two good years in another organization, then disappear without leaving anything memorable.

This would be way more entertaining if Kuminga was good

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Seems like the Warriors did Kuminga a solid in overpaying him. At least he has the extra $48m. I don’t think there is much disrespect like people are making it seem.

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Shit I would hate the court too if I saw Draymond falcon punch a teammate and then get full support of the team for it.

Well, he probably figured this front office would let him leave years ago.

Not interested. Skip

Between a teenager (now young 20 something) and a front office/coaching staff full of adults, I expect the adults to figure out a way to make it work. The kid clearly has talent.

Kuminga is so overrated . He thought he was kawhi Leonard .

I’ll come back to this when he continues to stink in Atlanta since pretty sure he’s still a bench player there, and he’ll be mad about minutes again.

This team is going to stink for a long time post curry. It’s already happening with curry on the team

And we still get the post break up articles lmaoooo

 Above them, team owner Joe Lacob had bonded with Kuminga at a Miami dinner during the 2021 predraft process and gripped onto the idea that Kuminga could still become a face of the franchise’s next era at several forks in the road. But Lacob was too unwilling to move off a dream that didn’t fit the roster or system, one his coaching staff didn’t desire to execute, team sources said.

Lacob looks like he’s interfering in good basketball choices, here. 

Kerr has repeatedly shown he’ll play anybody who fits the system, even if they suck. Kuminga couldn’t bring himself to fit; what did he think would happen?

I’ve never really understood this saga except as Lacob’s love vs Kerr’s approach to coaching. Kuminga is just the unfortunate soul who appealed to one, but not the other. 

Never has a more mid player been talked about so much.

No surprise here. If you look at how Kerr handled the numerous instances of Draymond going off the rails, one can see that Stevie K is ill equiped to handle complex interpersonal situations.

His default is to ignore situations rather than confront in an effort to reach a mutual accomodation. He’ll ignore until the situation becomes toxic, and at that point he’s forced to deal with it. 

The only thing more toxic than the situation with JK was Draymonds physical assault of his own teammate…and Stevie did nothing in both situations until he was forced to by events. 

This make me a lot more sympathetic to Kuminga. Not sure if it is strue, but the article makes it seem like he became the victim of a coach who didnt want him and managemenr who wouldnt trade him.

They should have just traded him earlier once Kerr wasnt going to play him, but too late now.

I actually thought Kuminga handled the situation really well