Potential Man Justin Herbert has some steep competition!

Herro been a potential star for the last 100 years

He’s a grizzled vet now

Your Broken Hero is a legendary pull

Had a back and forth with some people saying Herro has similar value as Jaden McDaniels…

Ware had so much potential that one of the best coaches in the league doesn’t even play him. 

i don’t understand why ware isn’t playing 30min every night. he’s such a baller

There’s good consistency and there’s mediocrity.

Miami has had good consistency. Though they haven’t been able to draft or trade for that superstar they’ve done really well all things considered.

Maybe they’ll get Giannis maybe not. But they’re not in the worst place. So long as they don’t overpay mediocre players it’ll be alright

Sure, but the flip side of that is after a decade you don’t really have shit to show for it other than a couple deep dickings in the finals lol. Would I take it? Absolutely. Would I also be tired of the near false bravado at this point? Also true. They’ve been propped up by Spo forever now with middling rosters and limited REAL success.

Yes, exactly. I listened to the pod earlier today and when Dakhil was whining about the heat never actually landing a big player (of which he used Bradley fucking Beal as a recent example), all I could think about was how little that actually matters for the team long term. The franchise has a well documented history of not only being a destination for big names, but also running their org incredibly well from a player development standpoint. How are you seriously complaining about this?

Lowe brought that up, and Mo started to apologize to Miami before Lowe told him not to and to double down, lol. 

Miami has Spo, a big difference. He can turn shit into gold and has since LeBron left. Jimmy going MJ mode also helped

💯💯. Also the heat front office doesn’t leak, and so every time a star player goes on the market agents and teams use Miami to build a market

They went hard after Giannis, they made a lowball offer for KD because they were honest about where the team was, and they didn’t wanna go all in for dame because they were afraid of his age and defense and so they made lowball offer again.

Miami does not think everyone wants Herro.

I agree, but he’s arguably been the best “piece” Miami has been willing to offer in every speculative superstar trade, and it put many Heat pundits in the position of defending his value.

I still remember Le Batard claiming the only reason Maxey could be considered better than Herro was anti-white racism.

He’s improved a lot since when he came in, but he’s still going to get pushed around by the Jaylen Browns of the world. There’s nothing you can do about that. The only thing that matters is that he tries which is all that Spo asks.

His defensive difficulties were always massively over stated here.  Despite Herro I completely agree with the sentiment if this.  I don’t think they want to trade him.

Curry was an absolute twig when he started, maybe Herro can get some definition in his later years like him. I think that’s reasonable. 

All that you really ask for is effort at bare minimum, and hopefully some coaching improves it

I don’t know what this guy is talking about. The Heat do not think everyone wants Herro. But they’re also not gonna trade him for free.

Cone. In our December Pistons game Cade spent the entire second half switch hunting him and torched us. Boston and JB + Simons did the same thing to him last month.

Pretty much this.

Net rating means much less in the era of 3 point variance we are in. Blowouts happen and teams like sixers/raptors who have a smaller number of elite shooters are probably less likely to blow teams out. Meanwhile a team like charlotte who has a lot of good high volume shooters in the lineup probably can blow people out a lot more. All that really matters is are you winning

Previously worked for the Spurs and Clippers (film room), writes for the Athletic, and is often on a lot of the big name podcasts. (Not sure if he’s got his own?)

I don’t know how close his ties are to teams, but I often find him interesting, and he’s not some no-name idiot or guy who just makes dumb takes.

If the reason is called teams were not willing to give up a 1st I would say valid

Ware is that you?

Lazy, tired, completely inaccurate take.

His defense isn’t the problem anymore. He just can’t stay on the court. At this point, all the Heat can do is hope he comes back, plays well for a stretch, then try to strike while the iron is hot.

..we’ve been to the finals twice in the past 5 years?