Ohtani plays defense

Ohtani is so much better at baseball than Luka is at basketball it’s not even funny

Nah. Ohtani plays multiple positions, Luka only plays offense. There is no comparison in the NBA, but if there was, they’d have to play both sides of the court.

Thanks for the response.

So in theory, if a team drafted super well over two years and somehow picked an all nba team.

They could keep retaining all those players at maximums despite incurring a heavy financial penalty on top of that?

“Salary cap” is not in his vocabulary

Mark Walter announces new prediction market company - Only L’s.

“Oh darn, someone completely wiped out my position on how much Luka’s contract would be, vet minimum was totally unexpected. Someone is walking around $100M richer!”

They really aspiring to do better huh?

Different franchise. The Lakers organization isn’t desperate enough for a banner to risk getting peepee slapped for cheating. Remember that when Kawhi first signed with the Clippers, they were still playing at Staples Center and hiding all the other teams’ banners, down to covering Taylor Swift’s banners for selling out the most concerts. They even had to hide Sparks banners (that’s our WNBA team) because unlike the Clippers, the Sparks had gotten to a championship, and won.

The Dodgers were also an insanely well-run and successful organization before they decided to just blatantly outspend everyone. They’ve won the NL West like every year except for one in the past 10+ years. That should (hopefully) carry over to the Lakers as well. Then it’s just about luck and things tilting your way.

Fully depends on what the next CBA is. Not saying there won’t be a salary cap but the current apron system is essentially a hard cap with how front offices operate. If they were to go back to just the incremental luxury tax and minimal effect on player movement then I can see them try a lot of the same principles from the Dodgers

The Dodgers’ success comes from having money and having a genius helming the front office (Andrew Friedman, who was able to make the low-budget Rays a perennial contender). NBA has a salary cap but it is not a hard one. If Lakers hire smart people and are willing to spend like the Warriors, then they could become as successful as them.

The NBA equivalent of the Dodgers is Sam Presti with the Warriors willingness to go over the second apron.

Sure, but in some sense, that makes organizational competence even more important. And while money can’t just straight up buy competence, it can definitely help. It’s no secret that the Buss family ran the Lakers like a mom and pop store (on a fairly tight budget at that) — like in what world would a competent organization involve the Rambis’s in decision making? the FO was filled with family members and people that the family had other relationships with. The idea that someone could come in and spend money to retool and get something better is not particularly far fetched.

This is where a lot of you always fuck up.

The dodgers are big spenders yes, but we also have one of the best development programs in all of sports.

I think the Celtics are an example of how you can still get dividends from being smart in a capped league.

People like to think that they just get the best free agents - the dodgers also have some of the best scouting and player development. They currently have the highest odds of winning the World Series and arguably the best farm system in the MLB.

There is no salary cap after what the clippers did

The way the aprons work, there doesn’t seem to be a way to just spend your way to winning.

Drafting and scouting seem to be the only way to build a reliable team. And that’s fairly meritocratic.

There’s no cap on front office spending and that is where the Lakers are currently cheaping out.

Salary cap only applies to the roster. There is no salary cap for the front office and scouting department. Mark Walter can quite literally buy any front office team he wants.

Lmfao Bulls like that too. m It was either our scouting or analytics dept. was (is?)just like 1 fckin dude hahaha

FUCK JERRY REISENDORF.

The Dodgers payroll in 2016 was 253 million dollars. The only other team spending over 200 million was the Yankees, and they were only at 227 million. The next highest in the NL West was the Giants at 171 million, 82 million dollars less.

One of the first moves the new ownership did was absorbing the contracts of David Price and Josh Beckett as the tax to acquire Adrian Gonzalez who would appeal to Mexican fans. The idea was spend heavily on existing players to be competitive now and hopefully they can be supplanted by home grown players who are cost controlled to bring payroll down later while still being good.

We just gave up on the bring payroll down part.

The dodgers have a massive advantage tho

They make 300m+ on their regional TV deal while most teams are Lucky to get 70m.

Yes, and since there’s no salary cap on Staff spending, you can basically assume that they’re gonna be spending top dollar for that

That’s wild tbh. Just operating a multibillion dollar championship franchise on basically vibes and star power. And I guess it worked actually so they got away with it for years.

You’re living 20 years in the past. The Dodgers are not only a richer front office than the Yankees but they spend far more than the Yankees too. The Yankees are still big spenders but they aren’t the biggest anymore hell they aren’t the biggest in New York with the Mets or even the biggest in their own division as Toronto spends more than them.

The salary rules for European football mean nothing and are a joke. The leagues cannot afford to have their best clubs struggling so there is no financial rules when it matters. The big difference is spending all the money in the world doesn’t make a better football team. In baseball it much easier to spend money because the positions don’t rely on each other as much. City also has to compete with other teams who play in better weather with easier domestic competition.

It doesn’t insulate you from incompetence, it just makes it way easier to win

Um, there is punishment. Second apron penalties are massively crippling. Forcing future 1st rounders to the end of the 1st, no matter where you end up. No combining salaries for trades. Can’t sign anyone except vet mins. There is a reason why most 2nd apron teams did everything they could to duck under the tax this deadline.

It’s wild that people don’t understand the Dodgers success runs MUCH deeper than MLB player spending.

It’s not, the biggest advantage was Andrew Friedman and our farm system.

We had money before all that and we still choked every playoffs

No, the report does not suggest that.

They are wise ass spenders and are elite at maximizing/developing fringe players into productive players like Justin Turner, Max Muncy, and Chris Taylor, which is probably one of the most important skills as a basketball GM. That being said Fuck the Dodgers and Lakers though.