Yeah, which means an ‘irresponsible price’ is either conjecture or hindsight, not counting cases like this years Pelicans trade to the hawks, where you can reasonably say that that was stupid immediately unless queen was rookie shaq.

I think if a team in a similar spot with a better reputation made the Rudy trade the reaction would have been “steep price but makes sense”. I know I thought it would be terrible but mostly because I thought the TWolves would inevitably crater because they’re the TWolves. Props to Connelly for doing a lot to turn them around

Drafting based on college is a good approach when Calipari was the coach from 2010 until 2024. Calipari recruited and coached the following guards who went on to the nba for a decent stretch from Kentucky: John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight, Devin Booker, Jamal Murray, SGA, Tyler Herro, De’aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Tyrese Maxey, Immanuel Quickley, Reed Sheppard, and Rob Dillingham.

That list alone is plenty of reason for folks to have just had faith in Kentucky guards when drafting in the lottery most years.

Succeed long term? None. Succeed for a while? Trae young and Ja Morant. While they both may be cones defensively, what better way to shore up that defense than with the Stifle Tower himself? Get yourself a Trae young/Ja morant with less durability issues and a more pass-first style then that solves the wolves biggest problem. The move makes sense

And I say the Kentucky guard thing because that school is traditionally very good at developing them+ he was coming off of a 6MOTY college season.

He’s not even that small, like hell Conley is smaller than him and he had a pretty successful career.

You’re absolutely correct Rob is a bucket and not a dime.

Edit: Dillingham has a slighter frame than the players he’s being compared to, and for everyone saying “he’s not that small for a point guard”… It seems really important to note that he’s never played like a point guard. He’s always played like an off-ball scorer. He’s never been able to pass like Conley, Trae, or Ja.

I’ve tried making this pound on r/timberwolves but they don’t get it. Casuals think all 6 foot guard are the same as if we’re playing 2K. It’s about your frame, musculature, how you move, etc. Rob is not built like Van Fleet or Chris Paul, or even younger prime Mike Conley. He’s tiny. Also, great point about Rob essentially being a shoot first 2 guard. He’s like the epitome of undersized AAU/mixtape HOF’er.

It was a bad pick and bad move by Connelly no matter how we slice it.

he isnt even abnormal size for a point guard

No they didn’t.

hundred percent agreed, Jamal was ramping up to late season all star form, the offense was clicking, they were like 7-2 in that 3 week stretch

I think he’s a very good pobo. Joan does look promising and I was being reactionary. He has a great draft history in Denver, just think he’s left a lot to be desired in terms of finding and selecting talent in Minnesota.

I dunno about rotten luck, picking an undersized guard was questionable from day 1. When dilly was in college still it was a talking point even.

Did you see my other comment?

the immortal Garrett Temple

Gulius Randle

I’d do it for McDaniels

Ant is a way more valuable player still coming into his prime at 24 though

your guy is also 31 while ant is 24 and still improving, he could very well end up being better than giannis still

You’d win the draft lottery this year

because Cooper was also in the deal and a nice $50m envelope to Nico

He did negotiate him out. Rob framed it as luka being injury and high risk, and they were equal value

Tell me who is the injury prone player, again? Don’t think it’s Ant tho

Shit, even one of our picks back + whoever you like the least out of Sharpe/Scoot/Camara/Yang might get it over the line. Our own picks are by far the most valuable thing we could possibly get out of a Giannis trade. They’re more valuable to us than they are to you.

Ik im just a salty wolves fan who loves jaden

Malik Beasley?…. whatever happened to that guy?

I said this when the trade happened, and I’ll say it again we have no idea what other teams were offering for Gobert. We also wanted another player (can’t remember who) and they wanted an insane haul before Gobert.

Yeh i mean even then it was RJ Hampton and a first, for Gordon who at the time had a contract extension of ⁸⁶⁄₄. Even eating that contract wasn’t that bad with the cap then.

Most of his trades have some logic and look pretty decent afterwards

The irresponsible price would be the Gobert trade

It would likely be Randle I would guess

It would be laughable and insane to trade those picks for Jaden. Hes good and all but he’ll never be a star and we actually have a decent amount of big defensive wings so.. why? We need draft assets so much more.

Yep nobody ever improves as they age into their primes.

Yeah that’s not far off from where I’m at, but a little higher for the Heat due to personal bias of course.

I mean, it’s pretty bad. If Giannis goes west who is the best player in the conference while Tatum and Haliburton are hurt?

It’s always these flairless bozos with the worst takes.

I’m not saying Jaden is capable of doing it right now, I’m saying this could be an environment that turns him into a much better scorer with more opportunity. I don’t think Jaden will ever be a championship first option but he could definitely be a 2nd option

I would argue Dillingham and Gobert were irresponsible overpays. AG I agree with you, but it isn’t crazy to have the opinion that it was an overpay. Let’s be honest, AG was far from what he is now when he got traded. He did not have a 3 pt shot.

Convince the bucks getting our players for giannis would be genius