[Windhorst] NBA executives believe the substantial return for Jaren Jackson Jr. could reshape the Memphis Grizzlies’ approach, making them more willing to absorb undesirable contracts alongside draft capital in a potential Ja Morant deal.
Poeltl time
RJ Barrett fits into that record exception real nice.
I would definitely take Barrett are Toronto fans down on him?
He’s up for an extension soon and we can’t really pay him without the team plateauing. Most fans love him and don’t want to lose him
Sounds familiar lol
Hell no! He is beloved in Toronto. We want him to stay. He’s playing the best basketball of his career and has a big impact every game.
Toronto gms are rhe worst.
Signing IQ to some supermax level pricing. And then resigning Poeltl to Shai money.
And now ripping out the roster.
What an exaggeration, IQ and Yak aren’t even making max.
IQ is overpaid by $10M and Yak was worth his deal before his back got toast. They banked on them improving/not getting a career changing injury and it didn’t work out.
In contrast, getting Ingram worked out pretty well for them.
They aren’t trying to tear it apart either. RJ is the odd man out and if Yak is not playing for a while, might as well get Sabonis who can actually play and has a shorter deal even if it is a larger amount annually.
They definitely shoot themselves in the foot with those extensions but it’s not beyond hope either.
Iq is a 20m player at best. Yak isn’t worth 25m. There are only a handful of centers worth that range and he isn’t one of them..
Ingram improved your floor but closed your window too..
This team is already having to break it up when it should be still rebuilding. Colosall failures
There is 30 centers worth 20mil plus. It’s literally one of the most important roles that has very little flexibility in terms of who can actually slot in and play that role. Every team in an ideal situation would be paying premiums for someone to fill that spot.
mfw the poltl contract is 80mil (last year 5mil guaranteed), and every year barring the penultimate and final* year is under 20mil
this is just misinformation correct information
edit: current contract is under 20mil next 2 years is 27mil, 29mil last is 5mil guaranteed, depends on minutes played thru extension to earn the full amount
Maybe a stretch but I concur, Masai should still be here.
I love him but this is the opportunity
Teenage Mutant Ninja Poeltl time!
Terry Rozier time
that’s an expiring contract. completely fine
jakob poetl time?
Draft capital for Ja? No thanks.
Ok but what do we get and what third team takes Morant?
Ja Morant is the undesirable contract.
Was going to say Ja is definitely a negative contract just based off play. Add in being a massive locker room cancer I don’t see why anyone would touch that contract.
Because there might be some GMs who think “we can fix him”.
“Alongside draft capital” part had me chuckling
Boi stop!🛑
Tanking team to employ tanking strategy. Incredible insight
Would be funny if this is all tied to Pablo’s discovery of ubiquiti drone strikes
trade Ja to Iran for oil
ya, I mean it’s obviously a full tear down now. before after dealing bane we wondered was it a soft reset around JJJ and Ja?
the answer is no, they’re hoarding picks, and should def use cap space to take on bad money for assets
fwiw I love what they did here, it’s like… hm maybe the inside-out tear down? trade your 2nd and 3rd men first while it’s unexpected and their value is high. they got more for bane and JJJ individually than a lot of teams get for superstars. I’m quite impressed by all the grizz got here
Trade Ja to Toronto for RJ and poeltl
Fuck it, make it a 3 team deal and give us Sabonis too idc
Ja, BI, and Sabonis in ur starting 5 lol
What a weird lineup
Kings 2.0 lol
Disrespectful to the Kangz. Lavine, DeRozan, and Westbrook is much worse.
Blows me away they didn’t even try to improve the 2023 roster.
GM was a bozo and Vivek is eternal
This is them trying, they make everything worse when they try stuff.
And Scottie
The least amount of spacing of any starting lineup in the last decade lol
Ja/BI/Scottie/CMB/Sabonis starting 5 lmao
Would definitely be Walter or Dick
why would toronto want to make their shooting even worse?
Many are asking but somehow we always do
ok do u want yabusele then
Nah Quickley over RJ
IQ is better at the 2 and Raps need shooters
I agree but IQ ain’t a good player man, dude can be a good 6th man but he a ball stopping PG and inconsistent shooter, his contract is the real problem
Quick is fine if he plays off ball. Not worth the contract he can play fine when he’s not the main ball handler.
I’m just sayin we can upgrade easily now that his value is high, we can get cheaper assets for him
That just straight up isnt true lol he’s not a pure PG but hes not a bad player or a ball stopper
i could’ve told you that Windy
Youre not their target audience for this information
makes sense. espn is catered to people with learning disabilities
you tell them u/Lakeersfan69
What an incredible username
So Americans? 😃
Oh so Windy is just talking to himself
I’ll refer you to espn for their next opening
Yes, but can you do this? ☝️🤨☝️
I just don’t see a future for Ja in Memphis
Tank commander. I don’t think anyone wants Ja’s contract. Grizz would prob need to give up assets or wait until he’s an expiring.
The team won’t be good for years and his ass in street clothes on the bench sells tickets, purely from a financial standpoint they stand to gain from keeping him if the alternative costs them even a little bit.
Ja doesnt even want to be there. Problem is no one wants to pay what Memphis is asking.
This trade makes it significantly more likely that he gets traded now.
Grizzlies are absolutely going to be the third team in deals the next few years. Clearly prioritizing picks for bad contracts, have a huge trade exception, and plenty of mid sized contracts (KCP, Clarke, Aldama, Jerome) to get deals done.
Wouldnt be surprised if we’re the 3rd team in a Giannis trade so he ends up on the Raptors, Heat, or Knicks.
Jak for ja?
WE WANT ALL THE PICKS. GIVE.
Wait, trading away a 35 million dollar player for picks could reshape Grizzlies’ approach?? They might be willing to absorb undesirable contracts?? I couldn’t have imagined. Thought this was a win now trade for Memphis. Thank you Windhorst
Having a bad day? Windy writes for the more casual fans who often times aren’t up on the nuances of a trade exception.
Heck they probably don’t even know that JJJ made 35 million and the DEFINITELY dont know the contracts of sny of the other players
Dalton Knecht and Gabe Vincent, c’mon down!
honestly, those 2 + 1 pick for KCP…. would the lakers say no?
Not for a first round pick (our only one), no thanks
Only if they throw in TT, Shump, and the Nets pick
What about a 3 way with Toronto and Sacremento?
Sabonis to Toronto, Barrett and Poetl to Memphis, and Ja to Sacramento works contract wise. As a kings fan though I hope we don’t do this. There’s a lot of players I’d rather have than Ja
Yeah but sacremento is tanking anyways. If anything they will probably trade him again in a few years while you guys rake up draft value
So basically he’s another Trae young trade package
Trae got swapped straight up for expiring money. Clean, but the fact that you’re not taking on any bad money means you don’t get any picks back, which enrages all your fans who don’t understand the salary cap (which is most of them).
If the Grizzlies go into tank mode they can trade Ja for something like one of Toronto’s bad contracts plus a pick, and then their fans will be happy, because they’ll think that they got the pick for Ja instead of for taking on the bad contract. Everyone is much happier.
Miami
Not doing a trade for Ja if we have to include picks
I always thought JJJ was extremely overrated. Most undeserving DPOY I’ve seen
Deleted my rage comment, but the gist was he had the counting stats and advanced stats that year. Not fraudulent at all. And your hair looks nice.
marcus camby was worse
So was Marcus Smart
Music to Sacramento’s ears……….
I’m listening
Ja for Monk+Derozan do anything for you? Salaries are close, might be an opportunity for a swap of unwanted things…..
Anything at this point
That’s cold man, you referring to them like toys.
That sounds a lot like Rozier and one or two of the Miami youngsters with picks.
We made one good trade so now we can make a worse trade so the net outcome will be only OK
Draft capital? we talking 3rd round draft picks now?
Where is the best for even for Ja? Miami if they don’t get Giannis?
Substantial?
Quantity over quality
Is 3 picks a quantity?
Zach Levine for Ja? He would be a great tank commander.
Of course they are
Ugh if Memphis really wants Gabe Vincent and Jarred Vanderbilt…
“Substantial return”? It was one possible lottery pick and a couple picks probably in the mid-20s
Zach lavine to grizzlies?
Hopefully Aldama Pippen and Jerome are on the block, let’s bottom this shit out. Spencer is prolly too old, put him out there too
Windy fingers (images not allowed smh)
Krispap Porzingus and Luke Kennard are coming home!
Ja to the clippers for james harden. Who says no? lol /s
Paul George you are a Memphis grizzlie
The substantial return lmao
Memphis Grizzlies have discovered tanking
This was the right move, burn it down and rebuild
No one gave up picks for Young no is giving up picks for JA
Jimmy Butler?
I mean duh. Take on 2-3 bad contracts and get a solid first rounder and then a couple other picks. Doesn’t matter if they’re FRP or SRP. Just keep acquiring picks for the rebuild.
Bro you ain’t getting picks for Morant just be happy you can get rid of him at all.
Ja Morant for Darius Garland, who says no.
Both on the same contract.
Both are 26 yo
Both often injured.
Both have been all-star calibers players when healthy.
Ja to Kings Sabonis to Raptors Barrett/Poetl and picks to Grizz
It’s a smart move for Memphis to fully embrace the tank, take on contracts like Poeltl (let him rest, tank more) - let IQ tank command and be done with Ja. Especially if the West adds Giannis - just rebuild the next 2-4 years and hope Toronto’s picks hit, with us being the team gambling with our roster construction.
Memphis the home of the undesirables
Why hasn’t the wolves-bulls-pistons trade been posted on here lol
It has…
A_MASSIVE_PERVERT has you blocked if you aren’t seeing the post.
I have him blocked so that makes sense lol
It has
It… Has?
Memphis will move to Nashville next
This is just an ignorant and stupid take.