[Windhorst] The Minnesota Timberwolves are actively recruiting third and fourth teams in an attempt to help improve their offer for Giannis Antetokounmpo.
This is getting juicy
Feel like this is all getting hyped up just for the bucks to do absolutely nothing until the off season lol
It’s like every Miami trade rumor ever lol
Tyler Herro is totally getting traded this year though
Half-Life 3 confirmed
Pat is waiting until 2028 to trade for Anthony Edward’s.
This is all just a smokescreen.
Can’t they get better offers in the summer too?
I could see them sitting Giannis until the offseason so he doesn’t get injured again and then reevaluating the market.
Yes and no? The championship looks very, very open at this juncture so you’re betting on a win now with some 30 odd games and playoffs as opposed to next year with 82 games of potential injuries and playoffs. At least that’s how you spin it if you’re the Bucks trying to drive price in the now.
That said teams have some time to flex shit around to create space in the offseason or gather assets to tack on as well. Though if I was the buyer I’d rather pull the trigger now as we’ve seen the Thunder bleed like everyone else
Things seemed much different when okc was like 24-1
I’ve got a lot of thoughts on that 24-1 run, especially when I was calling people out for pretending like the season is over and until I see them get past Denver in the playoffs everyone is overreacting.
If the Wolves somehow land Giannis I don’t know with certainty if that puts them in that Western conference world beater tier (I’d need to see them play and what they lose), but if there was a time a gambler should put their chips on the table I think now is as good as it gets
It’s the last year of his contract next year. They’ll absolutely do something this year it makes no sense otherwise. He’s at his most expensive this year
Stop it
No way is Giannis getting traded in this short amount of time. People forget he’s still injured. He won’t be back until towards the end of the season.
Giannis will be traded this summer when the Bucks have tanked with him recovering from injury.
Giannis current injury status has zero impact on his trade value. Unless he’s secretly out with a torn Achilles no team is gonna get scared off by a calf strain
Watch him get better 1-2 weeks after being traded
“Injury wasnt as serious as initially diagnosed “
I mean doesn’t that lineup with the original diagnosis?
Calf strains are no joke. KD, Tatum Haliburton all had calf strains prior to rupturing their Achilles. Kawhi sat out almost an entire season with one. I imagine Giannis is very aware of the risks, and he’s seeking a longer deal this offseason.
So in the offseason he’ll still be coming off a calf strain. What’s the difference? And the Bucks will have less leverage.
Not necessarily less leverage, I understand that there’s less time on the contract but because of the new CBA and just even some parts of the old ones, it’s always been easier to complete big deals in the offseason
It’s about giannis getting an extension more than anything else. Iirc if he’s traded in season he can get a different extension vs off season.
This is 100% it. If Giannis wants to get the most money he can next extension, he needs to get traded now. The question is how much do the Bucks care about helping that happen.
They aren’t but that’s only if they keep playing on them
Any team trading for giannis isn’t gonna rush him back and risk a major injury
philly might tbh
You had me lol’ing with this one hahaha
if these calf strains are becoming more of an issue, he would want to be traded now. then he can sign the extension before next season starts. if he is traded in offseason, like draft night, he can’t sign until 6 mo. after that. so would be playing without any guarantee at the start of next season. i don’t see that happening at all, especially if there’s injury history that’s becoming more serious.
It matters to the Wolves though, they don’t want to make a huge trade for Giannis and then not have him ready to go, I imagine they would very much still want to be in the playoffs this year.
I mean if it mattered that much to the wolves do u think we’d be getting this report that they’re trying to work out some complex deal to trade for giannis?
Clearly the injury isn’t stopping them from trying to get giannis
While possible Giannis is hurt, its most likely resting and load management to maintain his trade value.
He’s not faking this injury.
People forget he’s still injured
Nobody is forgetting that - it doesn’t matter.
Last year Luka was traded out of nowhere while hurt and injured.
Unfortunately last year proved anything is possible
I thought June of 2008 proved that
The injury has nothing to do with it, but if the Bucks wait until the offseason, other teams will have more picks available to trade, so why bother with an insanely complex trade now when the offers will be more lucrative and less complicated in a few months?
Giannis gains more leverage as to where he wants to go with less months left on deal
because at that point it’s 1 play off run vs 2. Giannis can just pick his destination by saying ‘I am not resigning anywhere else’
I think it comes down to Giannis. I can’t see Milwaukee letting things get toxic with their franchise GOAT and locker room, just to get an extra pick or something in the offseason. If he decides he isn’t willing to miss the playoffs and pushes the issue, he’ll be gone before the deadline.
I just don’t think Giannas is as much of a diva like Jimmy if he was then he could me making more of a noise about it but he hasn’t
They trying to tank lol
He’s injured. Why would things get toxic?
Here’s how I see it: All these teams right now are putting in their offers. If a team like Miami, for example, is saying Kel’el Ware or Jaime Jaquez is off the table, they aren’t going to suddenly come around on their inclusion of one of them in the offseason when Giannis Antetokounmpo will be an expiring contract. The offers from teams trying to “low-ball” will get worse. And maybe Giannis will get more involved in the picking of his future team.
If Minnesota is one of the teams willing to offer everything outside of Edwards to make it happen without a guarantee from Giannis of signing an extension while every other team is trying to be some level of conservative, your best course of action might be to take the Wolves for everything they can offer/get at the deadline.
You are acting like Giannis’ trade discussion is something new. This started in the summer. We have come to the natural conclusion point over the season.
Giannis wants to leave for some time now. Not only that, the Bucks actually have motivation to do the deal now because in the summer Giannis will have more control over where he will go because of the extension implication. Not only that, the Bucks want to tank and get a better pick this season if Giannis is leaving sooner or later.
Did you forget about the Luka AD trade? Literally happened Feb 2nd.
If Giannis comes to the west will Adam silver consider a top 16 playoff bracket? The top 5-7 players in one conference is bad for business I mean this is crazy
They’ve got Gradey Dick in the East
There’s antibiotics that can help with that
Read the Immanuel Quickley so we know how soon it works.
ANT-ibiotics
Get da prescription
Just be sure to sup with probiotics after treatment. Can’t have the microbiome out of balance
This is getting ReDickulous…
This is true. The east really does have dick.
Jokic, shai, Giannis, Luka, ant, Wemby. Who’s the best player in the east? Cade? JB? Maybe Embiid is coming back up too
If he comes back and is the same player, Tatum -> Cade -> Brunson would be my top 3.
Oh right, I forgot Tatum and JB. He’s prob the 5 rn (assuming he’s back the same)
Call me a homer if you want, but Maxey is just as good as Brunson, maybe better. Maxey’s become a legit solid defender and Brunson is legit as bad as Trae Young’s worst seasons. Their offense is very similar
He deserves to be in this convo
Maxey is having a better season for sure, but there’s a reason Knicks fans say “everybody better than Brunson until it’s time to be better than Brunson.” Can’t just ignore playoff history and go by regular season stats when we all know the regular season has a ton of meaningless games and numbers. That being said, I’d take Maxey over Cade, and both slightly behind Brunson until they prove me wrong in the playoffs.
I mean, when they met in the playoffs Maxey averaged 30/5/7 on 60%TS. It’s not like he doesn’t ball out too, and that Maxey wasn’t near the guy he is today
Maxey’s always been a very strong playoff performer
Donovan
Not up to Silver and I can’t imagine the owners of teams in the East go for it
Bulls owner will def object to this. Dude loves making the play in with an off chance of playoff to ensure more home games.
The east would benefit even in this scenario. They would get higher seeds based off of their records from easier schedules.
Giannis has been a 1st round exit in the East 2 years in a row.
How does that change the point, he is still a top 5 player.
We’re talking about overall teams not just individual players. The bucks getting worse due to Giannis leaving to the west doesn’t ultimately change much in the East playoff landscape
You mean he’s been injured and his team has lost those two years
Maybe Adam will rig a draft with a generational/star talent at the top to go East for once?
You can’t complain I know he sucks but you still jumped up like 10 spots for risacher
10 spots in the most worthless draft
They said the 2020 draft was horrible and it ended up being the best draft in wolves history when we got the first pick. (Also got McDaniels later in round 1)
Just the hawks luck to finally make that jump only for it to be the worst draft of all time 😂😂😂
I doubt a trade will happen. But these trade rumors have at least motivated the Wolves into playing better. Tim Connelly playing 4D chess.
Lol it’s actually true. Jaden, Naz, and Randle have been cooking since this rumor popped up.
For the record, I don’t buy that the Wolves will actually trade for Giannis. I don’t even think he gets traded until the offseason.
im a wolves fan.. what do we give up? i dont wanna give up JM or Naz.
You’re going to have to give up Jaden McDaniels (at least to another team to get trade assets). He’s the most valuable being a 2 way big wing
You don’t want to give up either of them for a legit MVP candidate. Very good players but brother they aren’t so good that either doesn’t go out the door in this deal.
Of course i think Giannis is going to disappoint wherever he goes, but you’re being unreasonable. Unless you’re good with the Wolves peaking out with the coference finals
I don’t think we have a good enough package for Giannis without completely gutting our team. But I would say Julius, one of Jaden or Naz, and Beringer. Anything more and I don’t want to do it, so I’m basically saying I hope we don’t do it because my offer isn’t near enough.
Man wants to have for a top 3 player while losing nothing of value lol
You’re a contender with an elite option 1, a constant DPoY candidate, and some great players to trade. It might hurt, but trading 2 of McDaniels/Naz/Randle/Dante with picks/bench players for Giannis might be great for yall long term. Your right though I’m not trading more than 3 of them, 2 might have to be done
I honestly dont see the endgame here for MIN. They would have to gut their rotation to add Giannis. an injury to any of their starters would totally blow up their team.
Ant and Giannis on the floor together would be must-see tv, but at what cost
I’m with you, dude.
Kind of how every mentioned team feels. Maybe except Miami
Feels that way for GSW, but we’re in such a bad position after Jimmy’s injury that no body cares.
The team isn’t doing anything rn so why not show us the most exciting 2 man game of all time??
Unless the Wolves fleece the Bucks, I’m with you. The Wolves just don’t have the assets without gutting their team.
The entire Wolves-Giannis trade possibility hinges on two points:
Whether or not league execs see Jaden as a Mikal Bridges/Desmond Bane level trade piece
Can the Wolves find a way to include Rudy in the trade as a means of getting more value to the Bucks
There is ZERO chance the Wolves would make a Giannis trade and keep Rudy. That pairing makes no sense at all and it would ruin all leverage to trade Rudy later once that fact gets exposed. Losing Rudy would decimate the Wolves defense but the backcourt depth could survive if it ends up being Giannis-Randle-Naz. The entire dynamic of the team is going to have to change if they add Giannis anyways. There is no chance to keep Jaden, he’s clearly the most desirable piece the Bucks would want as he is versatile and a value contract that could be kept or flipped for more assets later.
I think 1 is a definite yes. His year on year improved ment and age help his cause.
I think 2 isn’t too hard given his play. That said it’s hard to see how three of Randle Jaden naz and Rudy aren’t gone if they make the deal.
I wholly disagree with your Rudy not fitting thing given he’s worked with kat and Randle when everyone said the same thing. Rudy will play in the dunker or set screens like usual. It’s not that much different than Randle cause teams sag off him.
Rudy is a good enough player on defense that a team with him and Giannis would “work” in that it would be above average.
To win a championship though you need elite team synergy and I think it’s self evident that Giannis’s playstyle couples much better with another big who can shoot corner 3s than it does with a big who needs to be spoon fed or rely on easy putback opportunities to have any offensive impact at all.
Yeah sure it work better with spacing. I think it’s just over stated that it can’t be good enough. You can dominate the paint on both ends with those two and that’ll do a lot to win games. There’s just less five out than people imagine in the nba.
+ you have to find teams willing to trade for those players that don’t immediately become top 7/ 8 teams in the league, since that would make their picks not really that valuable.
I don’t think they should trade Rudy. Even if it means adding Giannis. Your defense revolves around Rudy. Giannis is an all NBA defender but he’s not Rudy. Who else is going to defend the paint?
You have to try to get him if, for no other reason, than so that another team in the west doesn’t.
Pretty much where I’m at with it. I don’t want to see our young core be broken up for a win-now move that hasn’t panned out well historically for any team long term.
They won’t win a title with this iteration. Why not try?
I don’t think people realize how good Ant and Giannis would be. Not only can they both drop 30+ they both can play great defense. Put some decent role players with them and they are winning a championship.
they’d have to trade away their role players, and their picks to get role players, in order to get him
fuck them picks
^(but not mcdaniels)
shit I mean, a trio of Giannis, Ant, and Gobert would be stupid
There’s spacing concerns, but that interior defense would be disgusting. It’d basically become a game of who can hit their threes because the paint is closed on both sides lol.
Naz and ant will hit the 3s. Point guard would be the weakness, because it already is lol
Ain’t no way you guys are keeping Naz Reid if you trade for Giannis
I dont think Wolves would be willing to move Jaden, Naz, Beringer and Randle all at the same time for just Giannis.
I’m doing everything to keep Jaden if I’m the Wolves.
You’d be getting a top 3 player in the NBA. I think it’s crazy to think Minnesota wouldn’t happily move all 3 for the chance to bring in Giannis.
I should clarify I don’t expect it to just be a straight up swap. I’d imagine the Wolves will flip Naz, Randle, and/or McDaniels to these 3rd or 4th teams for other draft capital/young assets to keep or offer Milwaukee.
A trio of Giannis, Ant, and McDaniels would be even better. Much more adaptable, too.
Not when the rest of the players are bums. NBA offenses are very good at picking out the weak links in defenses and offenses.
Jaylen Clark better learn startanese then
That 21 team won because the defense was incredible.
McDaniels has to be part of any Giannis deal if I’m the Bucks.
100%. Outside of ant, who clearly isn’t going to be involved here, Mcdanials is clearly our best asset. He could average over 20 ppg on a bad team easily right now and he hasn’t peaked yet
Yeah, it doesn’t get done without McDaniels IMO. Probably still not anyway.
We don’t have any picks to trade. This is a pipe dream
luckily when you have 2 top 5(?) players on your team, you typically do pretty well in the buyout market
I think the new apron rules limit what we can do in the buyout market
This is what people said about the Gobert trade btw
But the Wolves did trade all their picks hence why they can’t offer them for Giannis. The players they traded always were a nothing burger. I think the Gobert trade was still a good trade by the way.
I forgot which players we even got– Vando and Beasley? That didn’t last long at all, lol.
Edit: Pat Bev and Bolmaro too, I forgot about those dudes– Kessler is the only player we got worth anything, but I feel like he doesn’t even count, since he never played for the Wolves.
The players they traded away were 2 starters and a bench player all of whom played 25+ minutes a game and lead them to the playoffs the year before. People definitely felt they game up a lot of depth
Also this era of the nba is less about super stars and more about not having the weakest link and having depth.
that’s the thing tho ur kinda gonna be gutting their role players trading for someone like giannis. which is why they are probably looking for another couple teams to help
That’s not really the hang up lol. It’s how in the world r the wolves getting a deal done for giannis
McDaniels is the hang up. Wolves do NOT want to trade him but likely must for Giannis.
I mean that’s the only way and it would require like a team giving up a bane package for him. Who’s doing that?
McDaniels isn’t the hang up for a deal being made. He’s what we least want to part with, absolutely, but he’s definitely been offered by our FO already; the Bucks would have laughed us off the phone if he wasn’t in talks from the start. The hang up is that McDaniels + Randle + filler isn’t enough for the Bucks and we don’t have good picks to offer. We are presumably trying to involve multiple other teams in order to find a way to get Randle somewhere else in exchange for FRPs and/or young people with potential to give to the Bucks. Possibly trying to reroute McDaniels too if they want to fully super tank and get their picks back from Portland.
We’re offering Jaden Mcdaniels it’s as simple as that I don’t think we get him but Mcdaniels is by far the best price the bucks could get
They CAN play great defense. Night to night they don’t though.
That team would also be extremely thin with zero depth
The problem is that “decent role players” come at a premium. The suns surrounded KD, Book and Beal with “decent role players” but then you realize it takes a team to win
Yeah just need to get some decent roleplayers, just a couple of athletic two-way spacers who can also hold down the fort in case either star gets injured during the regular season. Just any decent player, really.
MIN should head over to the G-League and find some guys right now and prepare to send off McDaniels, Randle, DDV, Naz, because you don’t need good roleplayers, just some decent ones.
“The Giannis + Dame PnR will be unstoppable” type comment
I agree, the issue is you’d have to build the supporting cast from the ground up basically. Depth was an issue already even before this deal, and this would make that issue even worse
Do the third and fourth teams get to share Giannis?
They’ll have Giannis at home (Julius Randle)
Best we can do is Thanasis..
The real Finals MVP.
They have to meet in an Arby’s parking lot to pick him up every other weekend.
MIN gets: Giannis
MIL gets: Julius Randle, Naz Reid, Rob Dillingham, Jaylen Clark, 3 1sts
LAL gets: Anthony Davis
DAL gets: Luka Doncic
Who would trade Luka for AD? You’d have to be the worst GM of all time to do that.
Please
unfortunately we don’t have Garza to give away
Timberwolves don’t have the assets for a 2-team trade, that much we all know. Whether they could land Giannis depends on how much value the Wolves’ guys have to other teams, but my guess is— at a minimum— you’re talking about shipping out Randle, Jaden, Naz, Beringer, and any other of the young guys that other teams covet. And this might not even be enough.
The idea of finding 2-3+ teams out there who not only have interest in those guys, but are willing to give up substantial fraft capital and young guys for them, have the salary matching capabilities to bring them in, AND are also willing to sign off on facilitating Giannis being traded, seems highly unlikely.
But, even if by some miracle all of that consensus and coordination is pulled off, then you’re looking at Minnesota with Donte, Ant, Giannis, Gobert, Bones, Leonard Miller, and whatever garbage they get back for salary matching purposes?
That doesn’t even feel like a team that you can even guarantee makes it out of the conference semis, let alone a championship.
We’ve seen time and time again in recent seasons that the homerun plays for superstars that strip teams of their depth fall short, while the teams with depth and versatility are who are winning championships. I just don’t know how much better Minnesota’s championship odds get with Giannis, given the opportunity cost implicit in getting him. Maybe I’m overthinking it and if you have the opportunity to pair two top-5 guys, you do it and worry about team building later.
For what it’s worth Vecenie brought it up multiple times that a team like Portland would be interested in doing it for a guy like McDaniels
If Portland would give us bucks firsts for McDaniels that would be huge because Randle+a young player+the bucks firsts back is a really good offer
There’s no way they’re trading those picks.
Firsts is hard, a first + something else and I’m intrigued
Edit: Bucks picks is what I’m referring to, + something else just means something else intriguing from the Blazers, and obviously salary filler goes without saying
I know “something else” is vague here… but by your tone , i don’t think you’re valuing Jaden the same way us wolves fans do
A guy that scores 16 ppg on 51% shooting, almost 45% from 3, along with insane length and elite perimeter defense while consistently guarding the top perimeter scorers … on a sub 30 million aav
A lot of wolves fans don’t want anything to do with a trade, even for Giannis, if Jaden is part of the package (I’m not there but I do think if he’s included- we shouldn’t have to completely gut every other valuable trade asset we have on top of him)
McDaniels is worth at least two firsts
Two firsts and I’d even say more is justifiable. But Bucks picks are probably viewed differently than run of the mill picks with what their situation is looking like so I could see why the Blazers wouldn’t consider two of those for McDaniels.
I wouldn’t even think about it personally.
I’d love to have McDaniels on the Blazers not shot in hell I’m giving up both swaps and the bucks 2029 pick for him though
Bane went for more, come on. McDaniels is worth at least 3 unprotected picks and a couple of swaps. Amazing contract + durable + 2-way + improving each year + super versatile on defense + playoff riser.
You realize Bane went for firsts that will likely be in the 20’s right? Not even comparable to post-Giannis Bucks picks
Most people don’t think Bane was worth the 5 firsts
None of those firsts are close to the value that the three bucks firsts are
Biggest issue is Rudy IMO
Can you reasonably play Giannis and Gobert at the same time? I dont think that really works out offensively. Who is worried about Rudy on the perimeter?
I trust in Giannis and Gobert to figure it out. Hopefully this season but certainly by the next. There were concerns about Gobert’s fit with us when we traded for him and then he and Finch basically reinvented the way our team plays basketball.
If nothing else they can get Ant the freest looks he’s ever had in his life lol
That reinvention has always had a 4 that was a threat to shoot with Rudy though, no? KAT was obviously elite at it, but Naz and to a lesser extent Randle help space the floor. Giannis is shockingly at 40% for 3 this season by on a little over 1 attempt per game, and was at 22%, 27%, and 28% the past three seasons.
I think pairing the best rim protector and the best help defender of the past 10 years would easily offset whatever offensive woes Giannis and Gobert would have.
I don’t think you’re overthinking it. Unless somehow you only have to give up 2 of McDaniels, DiVincenzo, Reid, and Randle, I don’t think you improve much, if at all. And then you’re relying on Giannis for 42 minutes a game in the playoffs.
Maybe I’m crazy but I’d say especially in today’s NBA the value of having those excellent role players is more valuable than just having the two top 5 players and low level role players (unless there are some gems that can be found)
It wont be both Jaden and Naz for sure
The fact that Minnesota is just west of Wisconsin and is in the western conference just seems off. Also I think Giannis would want to be traded further away from Milwaukee and would probably want to stay in the eastern conference if he wants to try and get to the nba finals
I’ve always been annoyed we’re not in the same division as Milwaukee, not even the same conference is crazy.
Swap Memphis and Milwaukee, move Portland to the Pacific and Milwaukee can be in the northwest.
We are West of the Mississippi. It may only be like 6 blocks, but it is West!
Not worth the gutting.
Don’t think he’s getting traded by Thursday guess we’ll see
he 100% is. even people who were playing the offseason card are convinced about the legit offers. there’s a cleveland case being reported to. all it boils down is that big markets like knicks and lakers aren’t involved so it seems cold
If the Knicks can get involved and somehow get Donte back, I would certainly be happy with that deadline acquisition.
I highly doubt the Knicks would want to help another team get Giannis
I suppose if it means Giannis goes West they might want to help if they can get something out of it
If its to send him West we’re all for it.
The advanced stats have Donte as one of the most important players in the league relative to team success and the Wolves have no depth even before the deal, I can’t imagine Donte being moved under any circumstances tbh
Yup. Giving up McDaniels and Randle is already a high risk proposition for us—if our bench were better it’d be an easy decision, as it stands we risk repeating the story arc of the Suns or how the Lakers have been looking the last couple years or etc. Give up those two and Donte and I don’t even know what our starting lineup looks like lol let alone our bench
Welcome back to the starting 5 Joe Ingles
I don’t think any team will have much depth if they meet the Bucks trade demands.
I am not sure Minnesota could pull off a Giannis deal, but I am certain they’d be better off leaving their team more or less intact and just making a small move for a guard. Ship out Dillingham and a pick or whatever, and get someone like Ayo or Collin Sexton in for the playoff push.
100%. Ayo would be great.
We are with you on that. If it happens I’ll buckle my seat belt for the ride, but I think we see more long term success without it.
i would love watching that team so much.
Can we not have Giannis come to the West. Its already a clusterfuck over here already
Ant and Giannis is nasty 🔥🔥.
I want to believe
Please get it done Minnesota I won’t be able to deal with Giannis on the Knicks
Agreed. Either keep him on the Bucks or send him West.
Call us
You’re on our speed dial
The WCF might as well become the Finals if all these stars keep moving to the West
So the Timberwolves want to put the guy who’s very often compared to Magic Shaq (before his size and strength went crazy and he was legitimately an athletic freak), next to a player often compared to a young Kobe?
Yeah sign me the F up.
What team is gonna help give up assets to help the Timberwolves lol??
One that would benefit from having Randle/Mcdaniels/Naz?
So most recently, Windy has been just a say-things-for-clicks analyst for ESPN, and I’m wondering if, at any time in his career, he was seen as a legit source?
he did call the gobert trade
☝️😏☝️
Windy is actually pretty reliable for a talking head. You just have to differentiate when he’s talking from his sources or from his own mouth.
Any and all things LeBron James, especially when he was still with Miami.
He was basically his own personal reporter in the early 2010’s.
Everything else from him has just been clickbait.
As a wolves fan I don’t understand how we can possibly get a package together for Giannis and still be able to put a team on the floor.
Too expensive for me. It would gut half our bench.
Half our bench, meaning Naz Reid, the only bench we have lol.
The two players worth the most other then Ant have to be Naz and Mcdaniel right? I can’t imagine that they will want to give up Mcdaniel but I could see someone like Portland being in for both of those guys.
Probably Randle and McDaniels. Randle has more value than Naz and wouldn’t be comfortable coming off the bench
This trade is pretty hard for me to get work numbers wise.
The one trade I can get done here with the trade machine is:
McDaniels to Portland
Randle. Reid, Donte, and TSJ to the Bucks
Wolves get Jru and Giannis.
But this is gutting the Wolves team. A lineup of Jru, Giannis, Gobert and Ant might be one of the best and fun lineups out there.
I’ve got kind of a convoluted trade that just might work; it just depends on if all parties would agree.
BULLS GET: KAT WOLVES GET: Giannis, some form of draft pick compensation I’m not good at that shit. Maybe some future Bulls swaps. KNICKS GET: Donte, Vucevic expiring, Okoro BUCKS GET: Dillingham, Coby White expiring, Bones expiring, Julius Randle, some (better than the Wolves receive) form of draft pick compensation I’m not good at that shit. Maybe a Bulls pick and a Knicks pick or two.
Bulls turn two expiring contracts and Okoro into KAT. Knicks get off KAT, get Donte back with the boys, still have a serviceable center they could potentially resign who pulls great numbers as a vet, and Okoro is Okoro lol. Bucks get the more ideal draft compensation obviously, a fresh start for Dillingham being buried behind Antman, and Randle can still ball his ass off. Coby is also pretty good at ball, and Bones is a wildcard.
Wolves turn Randle, Donte, Bones, and Rob into Giannis. And they get like a swap or two out of it in the future future league. It says in the Trade Machine all have a net 0 effect besides the Wolves would be -4 Games on Win Total but with Antman and Giannis on the same team as well as Rudy still there I fail to see how that isn’t the best defensive team in the NBA.
Ant and Giannis on the same team would be a literal cheat code
gratuitous announcement that the Blazers own Milwaukee’s future
Celtics are adding 2 2nds just to get him out of the east.