LoudCityDub

157 | 5 hours ago

Consistently has bad games against OKC but nobody likes to admit it.

Old_Supermarket_7575 | Thunder

36 | 5 hours ago

Chet help with a body on him and then perimeter defenders to iso shooters is the best you can ever do against him

ColoradoMenace24

20 | 5 hours ago

Playing 2 bigs against a center that can’t defend does that

yeahright17 | Thunder

4 | 4 hours ago

I feel like that’s underrating Jokic’s defense. I’ve alway thought he was fine on defense. Much better than the vast majority of players who carry the offensive load he does.

Decent-Yak-4696

19 | 5 hours ago

Ditto Chet vs Denver - including tonight. Hart plays much better vs the Nuggets.

thuggyt | OKC

8 | 5 hours ago

Ehhh that was a pretty average Chet game. Couple threes, couple blocks, nothing crazy

Ready-Constant-7124

-1 | 5 hours ago

Jokic plays significantly worse against top teams in general to an extent that no other player in contention for the “best offensive player ever” label does

If you need someone to give you ³⁵⁄₁₀ on 90% TS against a 40-45 win team sure give me Jokic over everyone but he doesn’t scale up to elite completion in the same way LeBron MJ or Curry do

Coke_ButNotTheDrug | Nuggets

24 | 5 hours ago

Bro is just talking out of his ass

mrjones10

20 | 5 hours ago

Does he really?

rbmotoring

50 | 5 hours ago

Considering he almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs last year and had ⁴⁴⁄₁₆ and ⁴²⁄₂₂ games against the thunder last playoffs, no. This guy is just a dumbass.

LoudCityDub

33 | 5 hours ago

He also had 17, and 2x 20 point games in that series shooting ⁸⁄₂₅, ⁶⁄₁₆, ⁷⁄₂₂, ⁵⁄₉ in game 7

He has had some serious playoff disappearances against OKC

rbmotoring

-12 | 5 hours ago

Kind of? In one of those 20 point games he had 16 rebounds and in only one was his TS% lower than SGAs worst game that series.

This was probably his worst game this year and it’s better than the season averages for Peyton Watson who might win MIP.

NOT_H1M

25 | 4 hours ago

And he had 3 game stretch of averaging 33% from the field and 16% from 3 and had more turnovers than assist in games 2 3 and 4

Don’t leave out that part

But I guess that guys just a dumbass

Jokic was ass for 40% of the games in that series

rbmotoring

-2 | 4 hours ago

He is and so are you.

His worst game against OKC is better than SGAs worst game against the nuggets, Memphis, timberwolves, and the pacers that years playoffs. His worst game in that series was better than: Luka, KD, Halliburton, curry and Edward’s worst games of their last series.

I guess I would say if you want to describe someone as disappearing I would expect him to have worse averages or a worse game than virtually anyone else in the NBA lol

NOT_H1M

17 | 4 hours ago

Game 2 37.5% FG 6 turnovers

Game 3 32% FG 8 turnovers

Game 3 31.8% FG 2 turnovers

He’s was buns in damn near half the games vs OKC in the playoffs

KnowledgeUseful6731 | Thunder

6 | 4 hours ago

Also 9 shot attempts in game 7 😭

k0ala_

-1 | 4 hours ago

Well yeah that tends to happen when your team has no spacing

Top-boy-og

2 | 3 hours ago

Spacing had nothing to do with 9 shot attempts, he has his will and spirit broken by Caruso and was mentally checked out by the 2nd quarter lol

Big_Advertising1632 | Thunder

1 | 4 hours ago

Not an excuse for the so called bitw to take 9 shots in a win or go home game

Vicentesteb | Timberwolves

1 | 32 minutes ago

Was the spacing bad when the Nuggets blew a 20 point lead in game 7 vs the Wolves?

RepresentativeAge444

1 | 3 hours ago

Yeah these Jokic guys don’t like the lens of criticism pointed his way. But sometimes things are what they are.

mrjones10

9 | 5 hours ago

Right I was about to say

sentripetal | Nuggets

14 | 4 hours ago

Dumbest take of the night, ladies and gentlemen

Neatojuancheeto | Warriors

7 | 5 hours ago

I really like Jokic but dude is so insanely hyped. Arguments about him being in the top 10 all time… GOAT offensive player etc.

He’s insane but he’s got 1 title and didn’t face a single 50 win team in route to it.

RepresentativeAge444

5 | 3 hours ago

Not to mention he’s in an era of stat inflation, is not a great defender which has typically been a trait of all time centers and doesn’t have to face the likes of Ewing, Olajuwon, Mourning, Mutumbo, Shaq, Robinson multiple times a year. Plus in the playoffs. The only challenge he had was Embiid who has been oft injured.

k0ala_

0 | 4 hours ago

What a stupid ass take

Far_Dragonfruit9382 | Knicks

-2 | 4 hours ago

He averaged 28 13 and 8 in the playoffs last year what are you yapping about

LeopardRoyal2450

1 | 3 hours ago

It’s only his second game coming back.

DNCN_LUL

0 | 5 hours ago

It’s kinda funny cuz he played like his best ever playoff game against OKC too

libertydabbing | OKC

21 | 5 hours ago

Tbf, he also dropped three absolute stinkers.

In response, the offense opened up for AG, and he took advantage of it

NebulaCartographer | Thunder

0 | 3 hours ago

It’s because Caruso was fouling him all game again.

Correct-Type-8221 | Thunder

63 | 5 hours ago

Get Peyton Watson some help

boybraden | Thunder

53 | 5 hours ago

Despite OKC’s Jokic-stopper not playing too

orangekingo | Spurs

46 | 5 hours ago

There’s stuff you can criticize jokic for but “he’s trying to protect his FG%” is insanity. I can’t think of a player who probably gives less of a shit about that

Dude was just passive tonight, probably hasn’t fully ramped back up the conditioning yet

Lmao1903 | NBA

4 | an hour ago

Yeah we are gonna say that about a guy that took 22 heaves last year, the next highest being Mikal Bridges with 12? Especially when guys like KD I believe took 1 or 2 heaves in their entire careers, when SGA had 1 attempt last season. I am sure Jokic is checking his box scores every night and crying about why he took that bad shot lol

jamarcusaristotle

1 | 3 hours ago

One of the things he’s been most energetic about has been getting up end-of-quarter heaves (before the rule change to not count them as FGA’s)

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

35 | 5 hours ago

Way too passive game from Jokic this game. Frankly he should’ve driven in and tried to score more, he trusted an ice cold Murray and Hardaway way too many times. Not just his fault we lost, it was honestly Murray and Tim shooting us into a hole. Energy just wasn’t there after half.

EnderTheTrender | Thunder

22 | 5 hours ago

Shai has been that way last couple of games. It’s the “correct” play, that being said, sometimes we need you to be selfish.

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

10 | 5 hours ago

Everything just clicked for y’all tonight. Shai was great and unlike the wolves game, the guys he kicked it out to actually fucking made shots. If only a certain first time all star and certain three point specialist could do the same for us… 😭

EnderTheTrender | Thunder

1 | 5 hours ago

lol I get that man, hope yall get healthy

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

3 | 5 hours ago

Yeah, neither team showed their full potential tonight. With any luck next game we’ll both have some more starters back.

ExpressionAlone5204 | Thunder

1 | 5 hours ago

Brother, not your fault that Wallace, who’s been terrible shooting all year, randomly dropped 27 on almost 70% from 3 lol

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

2 | 5 hours ago

Legit. I actually watch Thunder games and was confident I knew how things would go tonight. Frankly, everyone on your team played like I expected except this mf who single-handedly slaughtered us out of nowhere. Shai was excellent but everyone knew he would be. How can one be ready for Cason Wallace making like 6 straight 3’s 😭gotta put some blame on Murray tho who kept leaving him open and didn’t believe he’d keep making them.

ExpressionAlone5204 | Thunder

3 | 5 hours ago

Bro, Murray got all star… and then took that personally. Cason “watch me I can be a starter” Wallace just decided to become prime Steph and I was like oh yeah this is a wrap then lol

Get Gordon back man, he’s my favorite player not on our team. One of the most important pieces anyone could have, I’d kill for him to play for us

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

3 | 4 hours ago

Hey man if you know a surgeon that can replace Gordon’s hamstrings with mine I’ll make that sacrifice any day 🙏🏻

FormalDisastrous2467 | Thunder

11 | 5 hours ago

Jokic seems to forget that if he tries he can and will demolish us on the offensive glass.

He is a mismatch for 13 out of the 15 guys on the opposing team and just doesn’t force the issue sometimes.

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

2 | 5 hours ago

When he went in it looked good, which is why I didn’t get why he didn’t do it more.

Western-Election-997 | Lakers

-5 | 5 hours ago

Or maybe he doesn’t want to take a beating on his 2nd game back whe refs aren’t calling fouls

FormalDisastrous2467 | Thunder

15 | 5 hours ago

Everytime he decides to assert himself in the paint against the thunder he gets hella fts?

He averaged like 9 fts per game in last years playoffs against them.

504090 | Thunder

1 | 2 hours ago

I doubt Jokic is weakminded enough to use that as an excuse

ImpressiveSeaweed734

9 | 5 hours ago

Bro was to busy fishing for fouls should’ve known the refs wasn’t going to call anything tonight when jwill and jokic got tangled up during the first play of the game

Old_Supermarket_7575 | Thunder

-4 | 5 hours ago

Drive into what? Chet’s arguably the best rim protector in the league

There’s just not gonna be high volume good quality shots there

ilikekittens2018 | Nuggets

6 | 5 hours ago

I trust Jokic getting crafty in the paint even against Chet much more than I do Tim Hardaway Jr. shooting another three after missing 5 in a row lol.

Old_Supermarket_7575 | Thunder

0 | 5 hours ago

It’s just gonna drain him and then he’ll get picked on the other side

He can’t just spam post moves for 18 seconds trying to get a shot every possession he’ll be cooked by the half

Renegadeforever2024 | Raptors

28 | 5 hours ago

Okc figured him out

Glove_Upset

20 | 5 hours ago

Jokic does not care about FG%. That’s why he always heaved before the rule change.

RandoCo17 | Nuggets

18 | 5 hours ago

You said it yourself 2nd game back. Take it with a grain of salt.

libertydabbing | OKC

2 | 5 hours ago

Exactly. Not much in this since we have a handful of playoff statlines against OKC to shit on Jokic

RandoCo17 | Nuggets

10 | 5 hours ago

What’s so hard about watching good basketball and enjoying your teams win and not having to shit on other teams and players? Just enjoy the game. OKC brought their A game BECAUSE it was Denver. Nuggets shit the bed it happens.

libertydabbing | OKC

1 | 5 hours ago

It’s just banter my guy. I acknowledge that Jokic is an all-time great. It’s fun to have stupid internet discourse

RandoCo17 | Nuggets

5 | 5 hours ago

I understand but it’s gotten to a point where no one even cares to watch good basketball, it’s all about propping up your guy and tearing down the other guy

libertydabbing | OKC

-1 | 4 hours ago

Yeah, that’s fair. I instinctively feel the need to do this when it’s against Denver because of some of the Jokic stans, but at the end of the day, you’re right. It’s fucking stupid to have all discourse like this

RandoCo17 | Nuggets

2 | 4 hours ago

I love my guy, you love your guy but yeah the stans really ruin it. It’s going to be a good battle all season and hopefully I good rivalry going forward. I can sit here and make excuses for this lose but I won’t, OKC played better and wanted the win more plan and simple. That doesn’t mean Denver is a shit team the had no chance against them but I’m not a blind Homer that just thinks OKC got lucky. Let’s have a fun rivalry not a toxic one.

Not_A_Bot_Am_Human | Spurs

0 | 4 hours ago

It’s every thread involving OKC. The toxicity is endless and it’s with every team they play.

libertydabbing | OKC

3 | 4 hours ago

Say what you want about me and other OKC flairs, but what the fuck is the Denver Nugget/Jokic stan erasure? If thunder fans are toxic, Denver fans are an endless void of shit slinging and trolling

Lmao1903 | NBA

1 | an hour ago

I say this everytime after a guy comes back from a long term injury, Luka last year, JDub, Bron, Jokic this year and a number of other examples, someone who criticizes players after long term injuries are braindead. Genuinely gotta be the dumbest collection of individuals that can’t put 1 and 2 together and think like “shit maybe we gotta give these guys more time”.

Old_Supermarket_7575 | Thunder

10 | 5 hours ago

Jokic without allstar teammate 30-14-10

Jokic with allstar teammate 16-8-7

chef_iblocka | Thunder

9 | 5 hours ago

Poor game but better than his collapse in game seven. He actually attempted more than one field goal in the second half.

Just_Advance8926

8 | 5 hours ago

Fake ass demon

Decent-Yak-4696

6 | 5 hours ago

That’s a pretty good stat line for his second game back. First world problems.

Ok_Pomegranate1820

5 | 5 hours ago

Where are all the clips of Jokic flopping?

Lmao1903 | NBA

-3 | an hour ago

Watch the game back, get yourself a screen recorder or whatever, get an editing app, record every possesion that fits that criteria and put them together, and post it here. Hope that helps

Riiken | Supersonics

1 | 5 hours ago

Lackluster Joker game but id say THJ and Murray the reason for the loss

NotMarkDaigneault | Thunder

2 | 4 hours ago

Jokic is super physical and I notice that everyone we constantly rotate onto him are super physical as well with him. I’m assuming that eventually breaks down even his insane strength and stamina over the course of an entire game.

Like yeah he’ll bully tf outta us for 3 Quarters, but by the 4th he’s usually gassed af. That’s just my opinion though man.

Marsupial_Last | Thunder

-1 | 5 hours ago

I mean he should make the right read if he can instead of forcing bad shots. He had a lot of turnovers tonight though so I guess those can’t exactly be called the right read.

PooTossMonke

-1 | 5 hours ago

Just wasn’t in the right positions today. Sitting on the perimeter a majority of plays when he should be in the paint using that big body. I don’t know if OKC have just figured him out or what, as this is the 3rd game in a row where he’s not had the stuff against them.

I mean 3 rebounds is pretty criminal for the big fella. He gets more than that in a quarter most nights!

Brutal!

Genericthrowaw4y | Thunder

-4 | 5 hours ago

I can’t wait when OKC embarrasses the hell out of denver in the playoffs. We can finally stop seeing ridiculous Jokic statements.

HomicEYEd

16 | 5 hours ago

Aaron Gordon was a major factor last playoffs.

libertydabbing | OKC

12 | 5 hours ago

Hundred percent. No disrespect to Denver, but Denver lose in 5 without AG last year. He’s an awesome player.

k0ala_

6 | 4 hours ago

Team which is incredibly top heavy would lose in 5 if they removed their 2nd/3rd best player to the deepest team in the league, wasn’t ready for these scorching hot takes today

libertydabbing | OKC

1 | 3 hours ago

I made a rational claim that many fans, including Denver fans, would agree to about AG’s importance, and you mock me for making a “hot take.” Maybe, don’t assume that everything said in a reddit thread is making a “scorching hot take” or commenting with malice.

Edit: the fact of the matter is that AG is more or less what wins Denver Games 1 and 3. Those games were pivotal. He deserves respect for his heroics

Genericthrowaw4y | Thunder

2 | 5 hours ago

This

Genericthrowaw4y | Thunder

1 | 5 hours ago

Aaron Gordon is made of Glass and won’t last a full playoff run no more

Western-Election-997 | Lakers

6 | 5 hours ago

What ridiculous statements? He’s flat out better than FTA

ConorOblast | Thunder

-3 | 5 hours ago

So his stream of games with at least 20 is…0?

dabomtitan

-5 | 5 hours ago

Pack it up guys. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

SAVEYOURBREAD300

-4 | 5 hours ago

Shai outplayed him in the playoffs and still is in 2026 someone tell me how Jokic is better

K19I53

-4 | 5 hours ago

Jokic hasn’t looked the same since the injury. He’s washed.

Vitex1988 | Thunder

-4 | 5 hours ago

Gamescore of 14.4 (his 4th worst in two years) compared to Shai’s 35.3

GarryShinobi

-4 | 5 hours ago

Once again SGA was head and shoulders above jokic in this match up. At some point, if OKC wins thr championship again with a back to back mvp run by Sga there is no basis for arguing jokic as the best player in the league. Sga was head and shoulders above

brnccnt7

3 | 5 hours ago

No argument?

He still has the better team, that plays a part

E_boiii | Thunder

-1 | 4 hours ago

Denver was winning games without him, okc lost to the pacers when SGA scored an efficient 47 points. Stop

brnccnt7

5 | 3 hours ago

Schedule matters

SurvivorPostingAcc | Thunder

-6 | 5 hours ago

Is this your MVP?

SlimmySlinky | Thunder

-6 | 5 hours ago

Free throw merchant

Western-Election-997 | Lakers

-13 | 5 hours ago

6-9 is fine for his 2nd game back

The problem is how OKC is allowed to defend him vs how they can defend SGA

You can’t beat a top team and refs as well

libertydabbing | OKC

8 | 5 hours ago

That’s what I’m saying. Imagine how good Shai would be if he could just elbow and shove guys when setting screens.

Seriously though, let’s not act like Jokic is innocent. He’s a really physical player.

Western-Election-997 | Lakers

-2 | 5 hours ago

You missed the point as usual.

The few times SGA is allowed to be guarded physical he gets shut down, Spurs as an example

libertydabbing | OKC

8 | 5 hours ago

Ok, let’s do the same thing. The times Jokic is allowed to be guarded physical, he gets shut down, tonight as an example.

Minny beating them in the playoffs two years ago.

Guys play worse when the defense is more physical. Take SGA last playoffs, his numbers dropped because the playoffs allowed more contact. For all the hate he gets on this sub, you can’t tell me Nembhard/Nesmith didn’t play him physical.

Western-Election-997 | Lakers

-4 | 5 hours ago

Jokic is guarded physical constantly he leaves games when deep cuts down his arms

SGA leaves games untouched because no one is allowed to play physical wit him

libertydabbing | OKC

5 | 4 hours ago

I guess if you’re blind and have selective memory of the playoffs. Did you not see the last game against Minny where Dante maulrd Shai and got away with it?

Jokic 16 Points 6-9 FG, 6 turnovers, 7 Rebounds, 8 assists in the Loss to OKC