darkenmoonz

132 | 2 hours ago

Granted Kawhi and Marc were all stars before being Raptors – but the point still stands. Roster was stacked with talent. Even more so when you consider Serge and OG being all defense guys.

Edit: and yes… Danny Green… /sigh

PhoenixU786

1 | an hour ago

the post said current and former lol

darkenmoonz

21 | an hour ago

/facepalm that’s not what I meant at all.

I just don’t think you can say Kawhi or Marc were “produced” by the Raptors, but fine…

So you’re saying Toronto produced Kawhi’s 2018-19 all star? Then fair enough, but take Norm and Marc off the list since they weren’t all stars while in Toronto. Want to say Norm still counts because Toronto drafted and developed him? Ok, but then definitely take Marc off the list.

Regardless, my comment had nothing to do with the wording of the original post. Just pointing out that Kawhi and Marc were both already established before being Raptors as opposed to being homegrown talent.

PhoenixU786

-9 | an hour ago

not what I meant if that clarifies it im saying the team has this many ex all stars

silentstealth1 | Raptors

107 | 2 hours ago

Kawhi actually dumped the baddest bitch alive bro.

NoxMollari

32 | an hour ago

but it was cold in Toronto. he had no choice

SloshaPacana

16 | 2 hours ago

He was forced by his parents to go out with that bad bitch

fignewtonattack | Knicks

1 | 21 minutes ago

Better to have love and lost then to have never loved at all

Lolyoucannotbanme

2 | 34 minutes ago

Would a been an absolute A1 Toronto legend

Funny-Transition7869 | Pacers

22 | an hour ago

and rhis isnt even including og, insane

Chief_White_Halfoat | Raptors

14 | an hour ago

Or Serge who both made all defensive teams (and Danny Green who made one as well but not as good a player as those two) .

lufufurot | Lakers

16 | an hour ago

marianas bench

RealCanadianDragon

9 | an hour ago

Combined 21 appearances isn’t really a lot, but 6 different players on that team being all stars is impressive. I wonder how many title teams did that? I imagine most were ones like the Heat or Lakers when their bench consisted of vet min guys

ACAussie

1 | 15 minutes ago

The 2018 Cavs had 6 or 7 all star players iirc.

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

1 | 8 minutes ago

At the same time or was it over the season with their various trades?

Motor-Platform-200

8 | an hour ago

should have been clear that it wasn’t kawhi alone that lead them to a championship. they had the talent and depth.

UTRAnoPunchline | Spurs

0 | an hour ago

21 combined all star games is probably pretty low relative to other championship winning teams

Most of the Lakers, Celtics, Heat, Spurs, Warriors championship teams all have more than that, some way more.

2011 Mavs have 34 combined all star appearances for one example.

Chief_White_Halfoat | Raptors

4 | an hour ago

That’s often because 1 player on those teams has double digit all star games who is basically an all time level talent. On this team that guy would be Kawhi except he has spent way too many years injured (and also just got snubbed this year).

Kawhi and Kyle (as much as I love him) being to the same number of ASGs is pretty crazy and no one would guess that.

Kyle has a reasonable number of all star games for the second guy and Siakam as well for your number 3. The non Durant Warriors had Klay who’s been to 5 and Dray with 4 which these Raptors match up fine with. Even with Steph included they’re at par. Definitely more than the Bucks, Nuggets, Cavs who won recently as well.

Tony Parker and Manu (!) only made 6 and 2 respectively. But Timmy has 15 lol.

If Kawhi made as many as his talent level than the Raptors would probably have more than most.

UTRAnoPunchline | Spurs

1 | an hour ago

2016 Cavs have 36 combined All star appearances…

2015 Warriors have 23, as do the 2005 Spurs.

Outside of the recent champions you mentioned (Cs, Nuggets, Bucks, Thunder). The 2019 Raptors only appear to have more combined all star appearances than the 2004 Pistons since 2000.

CurrentRoster

1 | 29 minutes ago

look what kawhi left smh💔people forget raptors had a better record (in terms of percentage) the year after, proving that kawhi wasn’t the only factor their success (and does look not all that great on Demar)

JoJonesy | Celtics

1 | 25 minutes ago

Kawhi only being a six-time All-Star just feels wrong

--solitude--

1 | 32 minutes ago

Still wouldn’t have won that ring had the warriors not lost Klay and KD.

DeltaEnergy | Raptors

1 | 11 minutes ago

you literally play the team that’s in front of you… every championship team has played teams not at full strength

jk67200 | Supersonics

1 | 8 minutes ago

but they did win a ring so what’s the point of the what if

PhoenixU786

1 | 28 minutes ago

So the KD Warriors is ur standard now

papa_commie

-3 | 2 hours ago

So Lamelo last year was a better player than Siakam but couldn’t make the all-star team because his team was too bad but Siakam can make the all-star team as a 14th seed? Both were on injury riddled team with the difference that Lamelo was averaging 30, had a 50 ball against the Bucks and embarassed Luka and the Lakers in LA

Youngflexxxer | Raptors

8 | an hour ago

Lamelo was like the most inefficient player itl while having the highest usg% of all time and being a terrible defender all while missing a big amount of games. Not comparable at all.

papa_commie

0 | an hour ago

inefficient

How is 42/34/82 inefficent

and being a terrible defender

Ill let you in on a crazy secret, Lamelo last season and Pascal Siakam this season have the same defensive rating

while missing a big amount of games

When all-star time was around he had missed around 10 games, making him more than eligible to play

FeltIOwedItToHim | GSW

6 | 35 minutes ago

ummm. 42/34/82 is almost the definition of inefficient

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

1 | 6 minutes ago

Individual D rating is a terrible measure of a player’s defense. YDKB

InspectionBig9062

4 | an hour ago

I love P but yeah he’s not Kobe/Wade/Melo on a bad team situation

OverallMistake8198 | Raptors

3 | an hour ago

LaMelo had one of the worst shot diets ever & was averaging 30 purely off volume.

Totally different situations LMAO.

papa_commie

0 | an hour ago

When all-star time was around Lamelo was averaging 29/8/5 on 42/34/82 splits and litterally had more ppg/apg AND rpg than any other all-star reserve from his conference. Totally different situations because Lamelo should have been a starter in the all-star game💀

SabraShifter

-5 | 2 hours ago

They were an amazing flash in the pan

NitroXYZ | UTA

52 | 2 hours ago

Flash in the pan my ass! The won damn near 60 games the next season with no Kawhi. That team was incredible.

hickok3 | Raptors

23 | an hour ago

It also ignores the fact that they were a consistent top seed in the east and just couldn’t get over the Lebron hump for 3 years before the trade.

Broad_Eye_5027 | Raptors

5 | an hour ago

more like Demar and Lowry were ass in the playoffs

it wasnt just LeBron.

hickok3 | Raptors

2 | an hour ago

It was a lot more than just Lowry and Demar. They were not great, but the whole team folded in 2018. CJ was ass, and Casey refused to switch him out and let Love abuse him in the post. Val forgot how to make a layup, and it cost us at least one game when he had multiple attempts to win the game and missed them all.

Lebron also spent an entire game stunting on them hitting ridiculous shots in g3 right after his infamous “2 points isn’t 2 points” response to a reporter.

Broad_Eye_5027 | Raptors

-4 | an hour ago

they got lucky with a KD and Klay injury

PhoenixU786

13 | 2 hours ago

Kawhi should’ve stayed on a 1+1 man that 2020 team went 53-19 (72 game season) 60 game win pace without him all they needed was a go to shot creator they had everything else supplementary

jansy1646 | TOR

6 | an hour ago

Barely lost to the Celtics in the bubble with Pascal playing truly terrible. ( I can’t believe he didn’t touch a basketball during the COVID break….)

YSLAnunoby | Raptors

1 | 7 minutes ago

I mean it’s easy to understand when it’s not like he had a mansion with a court inside since he was still on his rookie deal and all the gyms were closed. Even kids who went to the park to shoot around were getting turned away by police

The 2019 Raptors have now produced 6 All Stars