Derrick Rose says he doesn’t want the Bulls to give him a statue after seeing Dwyane Wade’s statue
Pretty sure that abomination has put everyone off of statues lol
The Dwade statue is the most famous statue in sports… for all the wrong reasons.
Edit: you know what the ronaldo one clears. But Dwade is coming in at a very respectable #2
Ronaldo statue
The one where he looks like porzingis? 😂🤣
I was there when they revealed the Ronaldo statue. His immediate reaction was “WHO DA FUCK IS DIS TINGUS PINGUS!?”
The Wade statue and Ronaldo statue have been catastrophic for the statue industry.
The milkmen and plumber era of statue building, Michelangelo isn’t walking through that door.
The issue that architects have, is sometimes if they do too good, they get their eyes and hands removed(St. Peter’s Basilica)
My son wants to be a sculptor… I’m like… bro, read the room. Industry is dead.
Kid could be the next Gian Lorenzo Bernini and it doesn’t matter because derpy Ronaldo company killed the industry.
I heard sculpting influencers are on the rise, streaming sculptures and stuff.
Ronaldo statue walked so Wade statue could run
At least that one got fixed
No it’s not, Ronaldo’s statue was even worse and 1000x more popular, actually that’s too little more like 10000000000x more popular
Let’s us not forget Sean Taylor’s statue.
It’s actually somehow worse than the Ronaldo statue at Madeira airport
Wade’s and Ronaldo’s are both made by the same company. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to just, you know, hire someone who actually gives a shit.
Which is rough because it’s not like the statue industry was really poppin’ anyways. Big statue is gonna hate this.
Maybe I can get a statue of myself outside of my house at a good rate then
Not a bad idea while prices are low
Only problem is, nobody would be able to tell it’s you depicted in the statue
Millennials killing another industry. RIP statues
I don’t know, I still want a Kevon Looney statue
A statue would probably make Looney look better lol
But does Kevin Looney want a Kevon Looney statue?
Big risk to become an instant meme
Dirk’s statue early on included anal beads. I tried to link to a pic and automod deleted it.
Still can’t believe they put that shit on tv
The Tom Brady statue is actually quite good. The guy who did that one is exactly who teams should be engaging with from here on out.
Lots of terrible statues since the 2010s. It’s kinda shocking.
You would think after the renaissance era that we would’ve had it figured out by now.
most of them made by one company. Rotblatt Amrany
LeBron probably order one from China at this point
Jason Tatum seems to want his statue …
He’d have one if he had the same career on the grizzlies
Wade won three titles for Miami. Let’s settle down on the statue talk for Rose.
For real. His jersey will and should be retired but statue is too far lol
*Is
Fair enough!
Seriously, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during the conversation:
Rose: I don’t want a statue guys
The Bulls: Um, yeah, don’t worry about it
It just was
lol fair I don’t pay attention clearly
But what about renaming the franchise to the Chicago Derrick Roses?
Wade is also the greatest Heat in history. LeBron is the greatest to have played for the Heat, but in terms of Heat career nobody beats Wade. E.g. his WS for the Heat is 116, LeBron “only” 65.
D-Rose isn’t even top 12 for the Bulls (BBallRef only shows top 12) and 12 has Kukoc at 41. MJ at 1 with a casual 204 for full reference.
D rose is about the most notable dude to play for the bulls who didn’t play with MJ.
Yeah Rose was emblematic of an era and what could have been. Idk if that makes him statue worthy but I don’t think it’s too crazy to talk about.
People who aren’t from Chicago just don’t understand the cultural impact Rose had on the city and team
Hometown kid coming from super rough and poor neighborhood, less than 2% chance of Bulls winning the lottery, youngest ever MVP in his 3rd season, and single-handedly made the team relevant again for the first time post Jordan
Combine that with the injury what if’s and the insane amount of community work he’s done in the city and he’s literally untouchable
That’s a pretty low bar
The difference between teams like the Grizzlies and Bulls is MJ and that 2011 season. They are not a great overall franchise
I’d argue that’s the case for most teams. 27 teams have fewer than 10 Finals appearances, 19 of those have fewer than 5. 18 teams have won either 1 or 0 rings. Outside of the Celtics and Lakers, no other teams have been year in and year out contenders. The Warriors had a 40 year gap between titles. All of the Spurs wins came in a 16 year period. Chicago’s were within 8. Sustained success is hard in this league.
Whats WS?
And in general agreed. LBJ doesnt deserve a Heat statue, Rose doesnt deserve a bulls statue.
Jersey retirement sure, statue is reserved for more than that.
win shares
I assume win shares
D-Rose isn’t even top 12
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Y’all don’t understand Chicago. We fucking love that man and if we want him to get a statue he gets a statue.
I live in Chicago man, I think I was at the game where he re-injured his knee. I know we love Rose he’s just not good enough for a statue. You gotta have standards.
The culture impact he had on the city is different. Fucking Josh Giddy could win a ring with us and he still wouldn’t be on the level of Drose
Harsh reminder that the majority of people in this thread were no alive or don’t remember the 2011 season.
Most people in this sub only remember John Wall at the end of his career and don’t how fun it was to see AD have an emotional lesbian as a teammate
Cousins not getting injured that season really would have changed the landscape of the league.
there is probably more than that really. Crazy what if for one injury.
I’ve seen D Rose start of his career, but even then I reserve statues for players who brought championship trophies to their franchise. However, if the organization and fans want DRose statue then give the statue simple lol.
I, for one, look forward to “does this player deserve a statue” as the new flavor of dumb sports discussion. Counting to ten was getting really challenging for my brain.
Ya but it’s not like there has ever been a Bull that’s accomplished more than D-Rose. He is the franchise
The fact he got a jersey retirement for only a couple years of production is crazy too.
But if Rose played for the Memphis Grizzlies. He’d have a statue
He did play for the Grizzlies
He was dope, but let’s face it his prime was very short due to injury. He gets more hype because before and after they’re just a bad franchise.
If he won 4, he gets a statue thats nice.
I’m sorry but do people actually feel he reached the level of play/impact on the city that would warrant a statue? In my mind statues are for the best of the best
He deserved the jersey retirement, not a statue IMO. like you said that’s reserved for the best of the best players, especially in a city like chicago
If he won us another chip then yes.
So no
One title gets you a statue?
No.
And this is coming from a person who roots for a franchise that retires numbers like they’re Wal-Mart greeters.
I mean besides the Jordan era the bulls have been kind of useless so if someone did get them one title then yeah probably deserves a statute. They haven’t won anything in 30 (I guess technically 28) years.
Pippen and Rodman should get theirs first though
That’s what I’m saying though… If Jordan is the only guy to have one now, and they aren’t gonna give one to Pippen, rose doesn’t deserve one.
I guess if they won 1 with him, on top of everything else he meant to the city, that they could justify a statue… But I don’t know.
Dirk has a statue. And I think it’s deserved. I also think it’s ugly as shit.
That’s a great example of a guy that deserves a statue after only one title.
Dallas isn’t Chicago though, and Dirk wasn’t hurt for most of his career.
i think jerseys should only be retired if you won rings or you were somebody at the top top of the game for over a decade for the team (an unproblematic karl malone and stockton come to mind). statues are for players in the goat conversation (lebron, kobe, jordan, magic, kareem, bird, shaq as far as players in the last 30 years).
a ring of honor (or whatever they call it, not the wrestling promotion) is for players that contributed a lot but aren’t the above. i’d put d. rose in my ring of honor.
part of this is because i’m a steelers fan… them mfs got 6 chips and only 3 retired players. no harrison, roethlisberger, bettis. make that shit feel like something. dan marino having his number retired by the heat is crazy to me.
I don’t feel like it’s crazy for an MVP winner to have their jersey retired, honestly. It feels weirder with Rose because he had such a truncated peak, but he was trending towards face of the league there for a minute.
A statue without a title is absolutely wild, though.
A 1-time MVP getting a jersey retired is crazy to me. Ring of Honor, sure. 2-tmes, 3-times… that’s a different discussion. I’d also have to look at the playoff performance in those mvp years.
There would only be like 15 people that have a jersey retired if you use your criteria
i think jerseys should only be retired if you won rings or you were somebody at the top top of the game for over a decade for the team (an unproblematic karl malone and stockton come to mind).
there are more than 15 people who fit this criteria, don’t play stupid and follow the conversation lol. He just said this.
A 1-time MVP getting a jersey retired is crazy to me.
Do you not think AI should have had his jersey retired in Philly? Barkley is a 0-time MVP and his number is also retired…
edit: since you’re a knicks fan, what about Ewing?
I’d assume they’d put Ewing in the “top top of the game for over a decade”
Ewing being the only Knick with a retired jersey WITHOUT a ring kind of gives some weight to their argument.
is reading comprehension really so bad nowadays that people lose track of a conversation entirely after one response
I don’t think an MVP automatically gets you a jersey retirement, but consider that Derrick Rose will probably be the only MVP winner not in the HoF.
The career of an MVP usually just.. gets you there with a franchise.
You could argue an MVP fits that criteria
Why did he deserve the jersey retirement? 1 MVP and a handful of good seasons?
Not everything is just statistical.
He sacrificed his body for the team to the extent that they felt he deserved it. Pretty simple.
Because Bulls fans wanted his jersey to get retired. Jersey retirements should be about how much they mean for the fanbase, not about pure statistics, and to be honest, any non Bulls fans opinions are completely worthless in this discussion. Nobody is making other teams retire Rose’s jersey, but he meant a lot to Chicago and the fanbase (although he was before my time watching the sport), so he deserved a jersey retirement.
For what he means/meant to that fanbase I don’t think Bulls fans would complain, but also I don’t think they’d do it for him.
Just sucks in this case because it wasn’t a what if. It’s what was, and it got cut short.
Derrick Henry and D rose got some of the sickest amateur mixtapes in the land
Agreed. Think of all the great, impactful Lakers players that have ever played for us. Only 7 have statues. It could be argued, rightly so, that the Lakers have higher standards than most teams, but the point stands
West, Baylor, Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe would’ve all gotten statues if they played for any other franchise and had their careers play out the same.
Controversial take, but I think LeBron will end up getting one as well with the Lakers. His GOAT case will only become stronger over the years, and he single-handedly turned around the franchise and delivered a championship. Not to mention he made 7 all-NBA teams and broke a million records in a Lakers uniform.
IMO yes, the impact that he had in the nba at the time and in Chicago especially was a major impact. Youngest to win mvp first player, and first star since MJ. Chicago native’s absolutely love Drose
Take a look around the nba and see how rare statues actually are. Rose is not on that level but ultimately it’s up the franchise lol
Derrick Rose? The man who got 1 of LeBron’s MVPs and doesn’t understand consent? No, he doesn’t
EDIT:
Rose: I said we men. You can assume. Like we leaving to go over to someone’s house at 1:00 [a.m.], there’s nothing to talk about.
Q: Do you have an understanding as to the word consent?
Rose: No but can you tell me?
Q: I just wanted to know if you had any understanding.
Rose: No.
I know no one cares but he understood the concept of consent, just the word itself he didn’t know
Doesn’t change the fact tons of people still think he’s a rapist even though he was found innocent
ALL OF THIS
but he dribbled the ball really good for a lil bit
The man who got 1 of LeBron’s MVPs
At least Rose understands consent more than you do basketball.
Tbh there’s two types of players that gets statues IMO, using the Raptors as an example it’s guys like Lowry or Vince. I think DRose does fall into the Vince category where it may be more for cultural reasons then just rings.
Though having said that I don’t think he deserves a statue lol
Vince doesn’t deserve a statue in any capacity, I can live with him getting a jersey retirement but bro completely quit on the team and left the team in the dumpster in his wake. and I don’t care for the “raptors would’ve been moved without Vince” argument because I just don’t think that’s true.
There is no world where Vince gets a statue. Even his jersey retirement was kind of controversial amongst fans
I could see them easily doing that for marketing in like 10 years lol
Yeah, personally I feel like you have to have at least won a championship for the team to get a statue. I love D Rose, loved watching him play, doesn’t get a statue in my book, but others may feel different and I can respect their opinion if so.
A local kid who won MVP for them, a few playoff series wins and the only time they’ve been a contender (IN THE FUCKING LAST 25 YEARS) and had incredible fame due to his style of play, he had big impact Rose was a huge name
Obviously didn’t last long but it’s more of a big what if and when you consider their last 25 years that’s by far their best success
its truly crazy how far like 1.5 years of really good play takes someone
Chicago born humble kid who brought the Bulls back to relevancy for the first time since Jordan (which hasn’t been reached since) and became the youngest MVP of all time.
He’s had much more than 1.5 years of really good play and the excitement DRose brought to Chicago those years is unlike anything we’ve seen in this city other than the 2016 Cubs.
It’s hard to understand the impact on the city he had had without actually living in Chicago before, during, and after this time period.
Yeah there is statue of Jordan. To get one you need to reach those heights. Even pipen doesn’t have one.
loving this suit jacket/turtleneck combo
D always dresses fly
He was always the best dressed guy on every team. Always wearing a suit when other players were sitting around in shorts.
The TV static look is so sick
With the ice
Classy af
Turtle neck and chain
Sippin on a light beer
Anyone know where his glasses are from or the brand?
I think Walmart
elegant as fuck
Dawg 😭
How is this a question? In what world does Derrick Rose deserve a statue?
I don’t think it needs to be a Bulls statue. Rose has meant a lot to the city of Chicago. He’s like the Rocky of Chicago. Maybe a mural then if not a statue.
Mural would be a lot better
Not sure if you’re Chicagoan, is there a mural/public art scene in Chicago? I’ve not visited in almost a decade and the last I remember, the architecture was pristine and not marked up everywhere like in NYC or LA.
In the neighborhoods yeah. A ton in the west loop which is near the UC
Everyone outside of Chicago would complain about it. Chicago however would not be mad. But Rose already said he doesn’t want one. Case closed.
Why does it matter for fans outside of the Bulls fanbase?
No kidding, do what you want for your own players and city icons.
This…I’m one of the biggest Rose fan boys but he objectively didn’t do nearly enough to earn a damn statue. RIP his knees.
Yeah well I’m from Cicero right outside of Chicago I think he does. I watched his rose that grew from the concrete commercial a million times. If sports are about anything, it’s that. Inspiring kids that they can be more than their situation seemingly allows them. No other Chicago athlete means as much to me as d rose does
His Adidas Ads were amazing.
Wish we never rushed his comeback. He probably could’ve stayed out longer and got healthier
I don’t know man maybe everything happened as it was supposed to. I don’t believe in god really but something loul deng said in one of the retirement video that made me tear up. D rose was exactly who he was supposed to be. It’s a story of perseverance and never giving up
https://youtu.be/hWed0nLu6Sc?si=xx0KDeHycCBX4R8l
The last 4 minutes make me cry everytime
People from outside the Chicago metro area genuinely have no idea what he meant to us, and it’s only getting worse
Right? It’s really hard to explain. Maybe Cav fans get it with LeBron but even then that feels different . I’m bias though cause I know where Derrick came from and relate to it a lot
Derrick was a home grown talent and the youngest mvp ever before injuries took away his prime. I’d usually agree not deserving of any statues, but given what Derrick means to the city and the symbol of hope he is for the people… I could see them potentially wanting to make a statue of him.
If Pippen doesn’t have one, no way Rose should
Pippen has a statue in the United Center concourse. I’m not advocating for a Rose statue, but Scottie does have one.
Theknikally it’s a “bust” not a statue
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I know you’re joking, however, it is technically a “half statue” as it’s more than bust as it’s down to his waist.
Im sorry but in what world did he do enough to earn a statue?
Be the most popular bull not named Michael Jordan.
Denzel Valentine erasure. His airball lives in infamy lmao
The level of joy that airball brings me can not be overstated. Denzel went to my high school’s cross town rival the same time as me, I used to see his goofy ass at Outback Steakhouse every Christmas Eve too.
It’s deeper than nba stats with D Rose. Chicago kid wins MVP, gives us all hope, then reinvested time and energy back in the city like no sports star ever did.
in my world lmfao.
I’m absorber completely by the NBA and that does not happen without DRose, I never g.a.f about any pro sport til I seen what he could do, been hooked since ofc.
ha, love DRose, he is right!
Rose doesn’t deserve a statue.
Not on accolades, but it’s a bit different here. Rose means more than probably any modern athlete in Chicago because he’s from there and he’s authentically from the culture.He’s probably the biggest inspiration for people to the city that are from the city.
If it’s something the people of Chicago want, I don’t think it’s an outsider’s place to say if he’s not deserving, because it’s for them.
Bad DWade statue but perfect Laurence Fishburne statue
You can’t have a statue without bringing a championship to your city
Not to be a hater but there’s only like 20 statues total at nba arenas. Rose not even close to that level.
Rose was awesome.
He is not deserving of a statue. He had essentially 3.5 seasons of peak play as a Bull.
Didn’t Wade say he was heavily involved in making that statue lol
D-Rose starting to become one of the most overrated players in this era.
I get it, he had talent, showed so much in his younger years and injury took it away, but damn, you would think he’s one of the greats of the game the way people talk about him
Shit, I had no idea D Rose gets knowledge.
This isn’t hating on Rose but he definitely didn’t do enough for a statue anyways and that’s not his fault injuries are just unpredictable
Wtf…he shouldn’t even be considered for a statue anywhere 😂😂
Hey I know that MVP season is great but does D Rose really deserve a statue?
D. Rose a true Iconoclast
Rose didn’t even win a title… Why would he get a statue?
Sorry dude, no one’s building a statue of you.
We maybe retire your jersey, but if we give out statues for people who didn’t win a ring and were “only” a player for 8 years (with half of them injured)… No matter what you mean for the City. You must bring some banners to the franchise for a statue. He never even made the Finals. We should chill on ultimate recognitions like a statue.
Great stuff DR. 💯💰💰💰💰
People that never won anything don’t get statues though drose was a bad man in his yoot
Laughs in Ronaldo statue
He deserves the jersey retirement because what that #1 Bulls player did needs to be remembered. I don’t think he did enough to have a statue tho, that would put the bar too low for anyone coming next.
The bar is being the youngest MVP ever, leading the team to multiple #1 seeds on the back of his offense, and home-grown kid who has invested so much into the city of Chicago well after leaving the team.
I’d say that’s a high bar. I wish his knees never broke down and this wouldn’t need to be a debate.
Yes, statues for athletes or anybody are dumb as hell. They look terrible.
That’s a fire blazer + turtleneck combo
In terms of Jerry statues, the Mark Buehrle one last year wasn’t bad. Not amazing. I would imagine a Jerry team would use the company they have always used.
Dwayne Wade statue is awful especially with his mouth wide opened like that. Looks like you can fit a giant banana in his mouth.
Don’t get me wrong. D Rose was a baller. But why would you put a statue of a guy who never won a ring outside your stadium?
I’d say get me the guy that did Tom Brady and we can do a statue lol
Olajuwon rejected a statue because it’s forbidden in Muslim religion i think. Instead there’s a statue of his jersey outside Toyota center. It’s cool.
Thankfully we didn’t go with the anal beads dirk statue
Dwyane apparently OKed his statue…that’s on him. DRose just needs to make sure the artist didn’t screw it up.
That’s funny
it could be something that’s not a statue of him - like a sculpture of a rose coming out of the concrete. they can’t mess up a flower can they???
Honestly I agree with his point, we have statues to symbolize historical milestones, it feels so weird to have statues of athletes.
Statue for what? No Finals appearance even. Like what are we doing here?
I’m not necessarily saying he should get a statue, but non-bulls fans in this thread making arguments about stats or rings clearly don’t realize what D Rose means to Chicagoans and should prolly sit this convo out
But the question is that does he even deserve a statue for stuff he achieved there?
The hell. They would give Pippen a statue before rose. Hell maybe even rodman
funny seein everyone but bulls fans arguethat he wouldn’t deserve a statue after already saying he wouldnt deserve a jersey retirement lol, it’s like forcing a raptor fan to care more about kawhi than demar
Now we’re giving statues to flash-in-the-pan players? What was the ceiling of those Bulls teams? Second round exits? 😅
Why is there even a discussion about a Rose statue?
He had one great season. Yes, it wasn’t his fault he didn’t have more, but it’s still one season.
Sorry Rose fans, but if he gets a statue, that actually devalues the concept.
lmaoo
Damn 💀
There’s only one place a statue in Chicago and we all know who that is
D rose is the man but he doesnt deserve a statue
The fact that they didn’t remake it speaks volumes, that statue is awful and literally looks nothing like d wade
He didn’t do enough to have a statue next to MJ.
FOH 😂
A statue? Lol…. Nah
Rose doesn’t deserve it