moby323 | 76ers

177 | 6 hours ago

What an incredible rookie class. I think the 4th best rookie this year could have won ROTY some seasons.

What’s great also is how tough mentally they all are. Flagg, Kon, VJ, these dudes are killers.

Trevhaar | Kings

58 | 6 hours ago

Malcolm Brogdon got nothing on these cats

MahomesMccaffrey | Slovenia

48 | 6 hours ago

That was such a weak year.

The 3 finalists were

Technically 3rd year rookie Joel Embiid who played 30 games

Dario Saric who was drafted 2 years ago.

24 year old rookie who averaged 10 points and won ROY

revisioncloud | Thunder

4 | 5 hours ago

or the most memorable forgettable Zaccharie Risacher

Logical-World-1030 | San Diego Clippers

44 | 6 hours ago

I feel bad for the hawks, getting a #1 overall between 2 years with generational talents lmao

IllustriousEnd2211 | Mavericks

9 | 6 hours ago

They could have maybe picked a little luckier

Thisislopes | Jazz

7 | 6 hours ago

Brutal

MostlyMellow123 | Kings

7 | 6 hours ago

Well the kings gifted them a pick for Kevin huerter. Which they traded to the Pelicans for unprotected first lol

joe4553

1 | 6 hours ago

They just got McCollum and Krispy they’ll be fine.

traebucketsfor3 | Hawks

1 | 6 hours ago

As a play-in team… we’ll take it

LuckyStax | Trail Blazers

1 | 6 hours ago

Caleb Love wasn’t even drafted and he balling!

The_Fucklerr | China

-1 | 6 hours ago

Yang Hansen mogs a lot of y’alls sorry ahh ROTY

heat_fan_ | Raptors

84 | 6 hours ago

This years ROTY gonna be a dawg fight

MaskedBirder | 76ers

-31 | 6 hours ago

Coop clears

DwyaneWade305 | Heat

34 | 6 hours ago

Kon is literally flittering with a 50/40/90 season as a rookie lol.

Ok-Map4381 | Kings

14 | 5 hours ago

And directly contributing to the Hornets being one of the best offenses in the league and actually winning games.

sycamotree | Mavericks

6 | 5 hours ago

… they have like 2 games on the Mavericks. 2 points away from having the same number of wins lol

swizznastic

2 | 5 hours ago

Yeah coop is tank commanding right now which is great for his development but not as impressive as Kons contribution to the offense

faudcmkitnhse

5 | 5 hours ago

Nah, Kon is shooting at a level of efficiency unheard of for rookies and might well be the top scoring rookie by the end of the year. Cooper will almost certainly end up being the better player in the long run but right now they’re neck and neck.

Jacob_toasted | Timberwolves

64 | 6 hours ago

Them Duke boys are at it again

Ok-Door-3664 | Hornets

13 | 6 hours ago

Someday the mountain might get em, but the law never will

armandocalvinisius | Mavericks

31 | 6 hours ago

just giving them co-roty

MahomesMccaffrey | Slovenia

19 | 6 hours ago

Grant Hill/Jason Kidd

Elton Brand/Steve Francis

Cooper Flagg/Kon Knueppel 👀

goosu | Cavaliers

14 | 6 hours ago

Honestly, that’s fair so far. They’re neck and neck a little over halfway through the season.

Their instant NBA translation makes that Duke team even crazier. I can’t believe they choked against Houston.

Zunoth | Mavericks

-23 | 6 hours ago

I don’t get how its neck and neck, Coop is far and away the better defender, they don’t call him Traffic Kon for no reason

u2nloth | Hornets

44 | 6 hours ago

Literally no one has ever called him that.

YaPhetsEz

32 | 6 hours ago

I do like the creativity though

u2nloth | Hornets

17 | 6 hours ago

Props to that. But who is they? Are they in the in the room right now?

MixExpress6634

4 | 6 hours ago

That mavs fan is not slick🤣

Thongthong4 | Trail Blazers

9 | 6 hours ago

you just made that up

Zunoth | Mavericks

-1 | 5 hours ago

It’s good though right? This sub can’t take a joke for shit lmao

Thongthong4 | Trail Blazers

1 | 5 hours ago

i laughed

Ok_Angle_5995

1 | 5 hours ago

I mean yeah it’s good LMAO so I’ll give you that

though yeah I don’t think I’ve heard anyone call him that lol

goosu | Cavaliers

2 | 6 hours ago

Kon supporters would probably argue his incredible offensive efficiency and perimeter shooting, but I agree with you in that I think Cooper’s defensive game makes him more impactful overall. I think Cooper’s all-around production gets him the ROTY by year’s end.

IllustriousEnd2211 | Mavericks

6 | 6 hours ago

They also say it’s that coop is the focal point of the offense so that’s why he gets his numbers. And doesn’t have a three

goosu | Cavaliers

2 | 6 hours ago

I actually think that’s a point in his favor, while guys like Kon and especially VJ benefit a ton from teammates assisting them to create good looks. Cooper has to generate everything he gets, but it’s all based on your POV.

IllustriousEnd2211 | Mavericks

1 | 6 hours ago

I agree as well. Coop has to do literally everything right now which is a lot of pressure not even counting the pressure he’s under to be the guy because of the trade. And he’s doing it. But I’m biased

sycamotree | Mavericks

0 | 4 hours ago

I don’t understand why being the guy makes you less worthy of an ROTY. Being the best player on your (obviously injured) team as a rookie isn’t exactly a knock

IllustriousEnd2211 | Mavericks

1 | 4 hours ago

To me it makes it that much more pressure. You have to be able to step up and be that guy. Kon is great but could he be that guy or is he more a product of the environment. We know coop can be the number one

u2nloth | Hornets

2 | 6 hours ago

Could say If you look at their stats like they’re net rating

Coop definitely has a great defensive rating but not offensive and it’s about a -3ish last time I checked

But if you look at Kon his defensive rating isn’t as impressive he has a net rating of +.2 (nba.com) or about +3 (statmuse)

So you could say while coop is a better defender kons overall impact is high from a statistical standpoint

goosu | Cavaliers

0 | 6 hours ago

I think that’s a leftover from Cooper’s struggles at the start of the season. In recent games, he’s been a high +/- guy nearly ever game, while he was pretty terrible early on due to his inability to shoot or handle the ball under NBA pressure.

But of course, either guy could be argued like I said earlier.

RoscoeSantangelo | 76ers

-6 | 6 hours ago

The problem there is that VJ is a better defensive player than both of them and a better offensive player in the clutch.

The truth is there are tough arguments for all 3 and each fanbase is obviously gonna be a homer for their guy

CarpenterFormal5555

4 | 5 hours ago

Not the night to defend VJ…

kapesaumaga | Mavericks

2 | 6 hours ago

I think Flagg edges Kon. It’s close but not that close. But I’m biased but Flagg is a more complete player.

Ok-Map4381 | Kings

3 | 5 hours ago

They were roommates in college …

kapesaumaga | Mavericks

1 | 4 hours ago

Lmao.

cosmo_hornet | Hornets

22 | 6 hours ago

too bad we have to watch this fucking jersey retirement instead of the game

30 minute (!!) halftime so far

goosu | Cavaliers

7 | 6 hours ago

Yeah, I hyped this up only for this long ass halftime ice them out lol. If anyone switched it on, they’re probably wondering where the hell the game is at this point.

DiscoLemonade1995

0 | 6 hours ago

Whose jersey is being retired? Dell?

cosmo_hornet | Hornets

14 | 6 hours ago

Mark Aguirre for the mavs

Michael_bubble | Charlotte Bobcats

11 | 6 hours ago

They made fun of us for retiring Dell Curry but we didn’t waste 40 minutes for mark fucking aguirre

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

-2 | 6 hours ago

Unfortunate the hornets rarely ever get to retire a jersey

cosmo_hornet | Hornets

8 | 6 hours ago

can you not admit this is absurd?

I wanted to watch the 2nd half but I have to be up for an early meeting. shit pisses me off this is a joke its allowed to go on during halftime

ktpkchu | Mavericks

-8 | 6 hours ago

lmao beefing at a jersey retirement

cosmo_hornet | Hornets

8 | 6 hours ago

its been an hour long halftime I mean cmon man

ejabno | Hornets

1 | 5 hours ago

bruh some of us have to go to bed or stuff to do after

MaskedBirder | 76ers

20 | 6 hours ago

I’m not watching. Are they clearly trying to make statement performances?

Ok-Caterpillar-9524 | Hornets

18 | 6 hours ago

Yep Coop has been Dallas’s whole offense for big stretches and the Hornets are trying to feed Kon. Both are definitely trying to prove something tonight. They’ve been guarding each other a lot as well.

goosu | Cavaliers

9 | 6 hours ago

The sideline reporter made it seem like they made no indication of treating these games differently beyond Cooper saying he “circles every game featuring a former Duke teammate.”

On court, it does feel like they’re putting some extra emotion in, especially Cooper. He was super aggressive in that 2nd quarter, especially whenever he got that one on one versus Kon.

banieI | Hornets

13 | 6 hours ago

I pretty much only watch the Hornets, so this is my first time seeing Cooper Flagg play. Man, he is legit. Obviously I want Kon to win ROTY and I think he has done an amazing job so far, but Flagg is awesome as well. I think Dell said it best in the commentary: “These guys are 19 and 20 and they both look like they have been in the league for five years.”

hyzer_berg | Rockets

10 | 6 hours ago

Kon is now ⁸⁄₉ from beyond the arc??

goosu | Cavaliers

8 | 5 hours ago

Going into the 4th, Kon has 28 pts and 8 (!) 3pters, while Cooper has 40 (!) pts. The game is tied too! Anybody who isn’t watching this is missing out.

goosu | Cavaliers

2 | 5 hours ago

Yes. Cooper has also scored ANOTHER 11 pts just a bit over halfway through the third. They’re both still going crazy.

craftyclavin | Clippers

6 | 6 hours ago

hell yeah

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

6 | 5 hours ago

I just dont see how both these guys dont get co ROTY unless an injury happens. Both deserves it.

captaing1 | Celtics

2 | 6 hours ago

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

NathanFielderFriend | Canada

1 | 5 hours ago

Good post OP I almost forgot to turn this game on

goosu | Cavaliers

1 | 5 hours ago

No problem. You’re catching a bit of the downside where they’re both tired, but this has been some incredible stuff so far.

Fun_Mind1494

-5 | 6 hours ago

Nah, I’m watching MIN/OKC.

Rookie Duel Alert! Cooper Flagg with 25 1st half points (9 of 13 shooting and 2 of 3 on 3pters) to nudge in front of Kon Knueppel’s own hot scoring half of 19 points (6 of 7 shooting and 5 of 6 on 3pters).