Doc Rivers is team killer.

We were winning in spite of Griffin and anyone who watched us that half season knew that. Hiring Doc was the only mistake. 

The stupid decision was hiring Griffin in the first place, no one liked that dude and the team’s talent was carrying that record heavily.

Griffin wasn’t that great of a coach

The team pulled some wins out of their asses by even going against some of his coaching

The consensus in media/online was that Bud was a bad coach carried by Giannis, basically got 0 credit for winning a championship.

Turns out it’s not that easy to just win in the NBA.

Remember everyone though he was a dumbass for the “play random” clip

It really seemed like not a single player liked Griffin. Falling out with Stotts so early on didn’t endear him to anyone in the organization as well I’d imagine. The record the Bucks had when Griffin was fired was almost entirely through talent alone. I genuinely could never figure out what his plan was at any given time and the decision to go from Brook playing drop almost exclusively to having Brook push out to the perimeter often was genuinely bonkers.

Bucks fans claim that record was a facade and they would have been even worse with Griffin. I disagree with them but Bucks fans aré convinced that Griffin is one of the worst coaches to ever coach in the NBA

The bigger issue was Hiring Doc when its well documented that he kinda sucks.

The coaches can be replaced, the move that gutted the franchise was going all in on Dame. The roster was constructed in a way that every big contract expired by 2025 except Giannis. It was the perfect plan to genuinely rebuild once the old core ran it’s course.

Giannis didn’t want nick nurse so they hired his top assistant, Griffin, hoping they could get a comparable coach who was hopefully more likeable for the players.

bud would’ve been gone championship season if they didn’t win. the team had stagnated hard and had kind of a fortuitous run. i have no idea why they hired rivers that was bad from day -1

Adrian Griffin also was pissed that Jon Horst hired Terry Stotts as an assistant coach, knowing that if he stumbled, Stotts would be available to replace him. So, Griffin belittled him a couple times, and Stotts quit before the season started. You have to wonder how Stotts might have been able to mesh Antetokounmpo and Lillard on offense together after successfully designing top offenses around Lillard and Aminu (or insert random other nobodies).

Kenny Atkinson helmed a monumental collapse in the playoffs in Cleveland and Nurse has had mixed results in Philly. Now a lot of a coach’s success over a five year period has many variables especially roster makeup but sometimes the grass isn’t always greener.

Budenholzer won a championship and has been a floor raiser with two different franchises if you allow for Phoenix being a dumpster fire of a roster construction. To say he is a bad coach is just absurd.

After watching a full season of Bud in Phoenix, can confirm, he’s fucking ass

A moderate to major upset almost every year.

Great regular season, but with a better coach and GM they have 2+ titles by now.

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Dude had one of the superest of teams of all time

And McHale for trading KG

That’s egregious. Other teams copy Rick’s plays all the time. Doc is just friends with the players and media.

i’d argue they count as a dynasty because that’s how good you have to be to win a single chip behind doc rivers

So true. I’ve heard Paul pierce say he was as good as LeBron. In reality he wasn’t even the best player on his own team.

The funny thing is I think Doc is actually a good team if you’re a rebuilding team and a bad coach if youre a contending team, but contending teams just keep giving him offers.

I wouldn’t turn down a 40 million dollar contract if I was him either.

Celtics didn’t even drop a track as hot as the Super Bowl Shuffle.

Leave us alone :(

At least Da Bears went 18-1 (record for most wins in an NFL season). The 08 Celtics took an NBA record 26 playoff games to win the chip. The max number is 28 lol. The 8th seeded Hawks took them all 7.

Right… And that has never worked to get a team over the hump.

The only reason it worked in Boston is because he had his complete antithesis on the coaching staff in Thibs, and the players themselves were incredibly motivated to win.

“He can fix us”

I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might work for them. But… it might work for us

He consistently makes the playoffs

That would be a great reason for the Pelicans to hire him.

It’s a terrible reason to sack your existing coach and bring him in when you’ve got championship aspirations.

I’ve always said he can make great teams, bad teams, and mediocre teams make it to the second round of the playoffs

He’s a politician

Haslam is a bucks owner?

Sometimes I forget that Haslam is involved with the Bucks. Really puts their dysfunction in perspective. Haslam via his company is a literal fraud.

Fuck Jimmy Haslam seriously

Buggy the Clown of the NBA

The Glenn Special **

Usually though rivers would manage to bring even a mid team to the play-off then crumble, with the bucks he barely can do that although Giannis numbers have never been better (because he is forced too)

True not saying he was alone but OP tried to phrase this like Giannis is at the mercy of the FO

Because he got in a fight with Terry Stotts lol

Exactly.

Firing griffin was not a mistake. Hiring doc absolutely was 

Sometimes you gotta overrule your star player.

You’re talking to the organization that is wasting a roster spot to keep him.

It often goes like this when star players leverage themselves into de facto GM roles. They’re like the really awful GMs we always deride, but worse. (Except for Nico, who is in his own tier.)

What floor does he raise? He doesn’t coach rebuilding teams, he takes existing contending teams and can’t get them over the hump.

Doc will coach every franchise in the NBA before it’s over. I’m convinced he has dirt on everybody in the league.

LeBron gets moved. Lakers fire JJ after next season and Bucks are really bad. Guess who is coming back to LA?

Terrible game planning, rigid schemes on both sides, unable to adapt to what’s happening to the team as the game or series goes on, makes zero adjustments other than expect his stars to dig him out of holes he created with poor lineups (on the clippers this was 3 point guard lineups or double bigs), overlooks young talent for certain players he falls in love with randomly because they fit better in his godawful schemes. I would say he’s overall just outdated, not good with X’s and O’s, gets exposed constantly in the playoffs because he does the same thing every single game and can’t adjust to any changes, and alienates young talent forcing the team into a win now mode

He’s not an x’s and o’s guy and he’s not a player development guy. He’s a man manager who always finds a way to pass the buck when his already competing team can’t get over the hump.

The media and the players like him though because he’s all vibes and good quotes.

I also remember the video of the first intro after coach Griffin was fired and the team was like having a party on the court. He definitely wasn’t liked

I wish I could be so incredibly incompetent at my job that absolutely everyone wants me gone even in spite of apparent great success, effectively ending my career in what should have been its prime, and then comfortably retire with my multi-million savings.

The dream

I’m not sure I would’ve fired my winning coach to hire Doc Rivers because the locker room asked. Hindsight and all that, but look what the locker room did after lol