[OldManAndTheThree] Cam Johnson on the ICE murders in MN: “These people were friends. They were family members. They were parents … their lives are just taken from them. It’s sad and it hurts”
everyone who speaks up is a real one
Like the only league thats said anything
There’s dead silence from the NFL. I’m not super surprised, the organization and fanbase for the NFL has always been a lot more conservative than the NBA.
Nba is the only left leaning sports league in America even college basketball leans more right
I definitely know conservatives who only watch college basketball because, “they play the right way.”
I suspect their interest may wane now that the players are no longer playing for free.
And because “Go school!”
Which is just “heritage” shit
Women’s soccer would like a word
As would WNBA
I think you’ll find that the WNBA players are going to be 50 times moee outspoken on most political topics than the NBA.
It’s probably further left than the NFL, MLB, and NHL, but I wouldn’t call it left. These dudes are all super rich and while there are outspoken progressive voices, there are just as many NFT bros etc. As others have mentioned, the women’s leagues actually lean left.
I will never forget that they had a moment of silence for a podcaster
An agitprop artist. Fuck the NFL
Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s been some sort of secret memo so as to not distract away from the Super Bowl coming up.
Broadcasts during the Seahawks-Rams game bleeped out people saying fuck ice. Maybe because it’s in the West Coast, but I’d hope people in the NBA care
Tbf the broadcast would bleep “fuck” regardless of context.
Maybe people could start saying “Down with ICE” or something like that instead so it gets through.
Haha true. Just wishful thinking though
I can see Seattle fans being pretty vocal.
Colin Kaepernick was the example. The real ones are not even tolerated in that league, let alone able to use their power to make a collective statement.
The NFL literally colluded to never sign someone again for saying police brutality is bad. They were holding private ownership only meetings specifically about the man. So many morons always reply he wasn’t blackballed, he was simply not signed because of the controversy caused by his political activism. Thats what blackballing is lol.
The league will punish those who speak.
Technically it’s not the exact same thing. If the controversy was such that his commercial value to ANY team was negative in spite of what he can bring on and off the court, that’d not be blackballing.
The thing is, that’s likely not the case, or there wouldn’t have been these meetings. That was a consious decision league-wide to enforce a ban on this man, even though individually many teams would have benefitted from signing him. They acted as a cartel, which didn’t take too much efforts since these leagues already operate like cartels.
There’s always silence from them, unless someone is “disrespecting da veterans” (Kaepernick).
Or a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk.
Saw some NHL players say stuff but it was mainly “damn whatever happened out there sucks, hope watching hockey makes you feel better”.
In hockey guy language that’s basically as close as you’re gonna get to them saying fuck ICE
Hockey players are some blandest least expressive guys I’ve ever met
also a ton of them are or were trump supporters
some MLB players have spoken up too
NBA usually seems the most vocal imo, but I’ve seen MLB players make posts
Here’s an interesting study on players’ political party registration across NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA, and WNBA.
Here’s a chart showing a breakdown for NFL by position.
Seriously. The people who aren’t speaking out and using their platform are helping Trump normalize this. I’ve already unfollowed accounts of people who “won’t get bullied into making a political statement because it’s bad for their mental health”. Which is coded for closeted Trump supporter.
If you have a platform and you aren’t speaking out, you’re complicit. This has gone too far.
Wow, part of first amendment is you don’t have to speak right.
First Amendment protects you from government persecution. It has nothing to do with me choosing to unfollow people on social media platforms or boycotting their business.
Would be nice if any Timberwolves player besides Clark would speak up given they live here, bunch of cowards
It’s sad that it’s only NBA players so far. Fucking cowards in the NFL and MLB won’t say jackshit.
And I don’t even consider the NHL, it’s full of eastern European dickbags who probably miss the USSR.
lmao its 2026, the USSR collapsed nearly 40 years ago. from what I’ve generally seen, the European NHL players are more left than their American counterparts, relatively speaking. Even if they’re right leaning by their standard, they’ve grown up with a different spectrum.
There’s also the fact that European NHLers are generally more Nordic than eastern European and, I mean, the Swedes and Finns aren’t exactly champing at the bit to make America great again.
any league comprised mostly of rich white guys is going to lean right overall though
Yes, but Putin is a USSR apologist/advocate who has kept the idea alive.
Naw it easy to speak up from the comfort of your mansion. The real ones are like Dame who have actually gone to protests.
It doesn’t have to be black and white. There are gradations of activism. Speaking up is better than not speaking up.
Yep. All of us in MN appreciate any support. Doesn’t matter if it’s some grand act of charity, protesting in your free time, or simply discussing what’s happening here with one of your friends.
Solidarity comes in all shapes and sizes :)
Lol the goal posts are moving too fast on this, two days ago it was “these guys dont care nobody is speaking up” then the first couple guys start saying something and it’s “oh looks like somebody got media training to say the right thing” then more raw statements start coming out and it’s “oh these guys aren’t real, it’s only the ones that show up at protests who are real” cmon
I don’t fault anyone for any level of action (or inaction) they take. Some people are exhausted. Some people don’t have the emotional/mental bandwidth. In the last 25 years we’ve had 9⁄11, endless wars, multiple market crashes, BLM, immigration crackdowns, multiple impeachments, an attack on the Capitol followed by the pardon of over 1500 people involved, and more.
I can’t fault people who grew up in the midst of everything for being just. so. tired. I know I am.
Being “in the comfort of your mansion” does not mean you have the emotional capacity for ALWAYS doing the most.
I understand
I say this as someone who lives comfortably but has depression. I’ve been dragged to protests by my spouse on a couple occasions and a couple others I’ve resisted because I’ve been so tired. I’m also a gov employee and sometimes I choose my battle as simply showing up to work rather than taking a buyout option, even while the President sitting just a few blocks away from me says I’m lazy and worthless and sucking the taxpayer dry.
May I ask if you on medication? It’s helped me.
It’s not just that they were murdered. It’s the fact that are being called domestic terrorists. Please fast forward to Nuremberg pt 2 for these Nazis.
Stephen Miller’s eventual trial and sentencing will bring me immense amounts of satisfaction.
I don’t trust democrats to punish this administration adequately
100%. They’ll sweep it under the rug and say we need unity
It’s not the Democrats that are an issue. It’s voters. Voters turned on the Democrats for impeaching Trump. The investigations of his admin were portrayed and perceived as a purely political move. They prosecuted January 6th insurrectionists and people were fine with Trump promising to pardon them. People reacted by re-electing Trump. I don’t know why anyone thinks voters wouldn’t turn on Dems if they try to hold him accountable.
Unfortunately, I’m not sure we’ll get better Dems until we get better voters who actually WANT accountability.
No the democrats are definitely the issue. Everyone knows they have no bite. Just complain about everything but can’t rally support or anything. They don’t stand on anything but grandstanding and opposing trump. Who is the leader of the party? Some moderate I bet. You can’t masquerade as a less evil republican and think that’ll be enough to sway people. Until they radicalize themselves it’s going to be the same grandstanding
Everyone knows they have no bite.
The Republicans want to cut programs, gut systems, eliminated budgets, etc. It’s much easier to have “bite” when you are destroying than when you are trying to build.
Who is the leader of the party?
It really shows how far American politics has fallen and how weird voters are that it is portrayed as a BAD thing that they don’t have a single leader. Politics parties should never be built around a cult of personality. I don’t want a party with an individual leader.
Some moderate I bet.
The best known Dems right now are probably Schumer (near retirement), Pelosi (stepping away from leadership), AOC, Bernie (he’s a Dem), and Mamdani. So old Dems on their way out and progressives.
Until they radicalize themselves
No, Dems shouldn’t pick singular positions or politics. They need to be more things in more places. They should be the party that can represent the values of their local voters. That’s how a Democracy is supposed to work AND it’s smart politics.
In case you haven’t notice, democracy is dead
Ok.
No seriously bro, all the Democrats gotta do is double down on mealy mouthed centrism and fascism will be defeated!
Straight up. If they were serious Trump and his cronies would’ve been in jail after the first time. This is what happens when you allow Nazis to get away with anything
Because they are all a part of the same system, democrats are not some saviours or anything.
No but they could at least pretend to be the opposition instead of completely rolling over
It’s by design. They’re on the same team. We live in a far-right vs center-right one party system.
I will easily vote for a candidate that runs on a platform of punishing this administration
And you have every reason to believe that
Yeah Miller is going to be the next Kissinger, I think, unfortunately. Around politics for a long time despite war crimes and crimes against humanity
My personal regret in 2021 was being too relieved to have some sense of normalcy that I let my drive for change fade.
Like, had I stayed even half as vigilant as I was in 2017, I’d have more tools/resources to effect change now.
I know a lot of people did the same thing, which allowed democrats to just throw in cruise control. Maybe there will/won’t be another chance, but I know for damn sure I’m not letting it slip again.
The nuremberg trials were all in all pretty unsuccessful at punishing the vast majority of nazis
Most of them escaped to North America
Wasnt it Argentina
Some did but it’s overstated. Vast majority of surviving Nazis either stayed in Germany, or got funneled to the US or the Soviet Union.
Dog there’s not going to be any trial of Stephen Miller or anyone else in this administration. They will get away with all the fucked up shit they did
facts!!!!!
Democrats are pussies and if they win will go back to status quo as they try and pretend none of this ever happened
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GO NUGS FUCK ICE
#FUCK ICE GO NUGS
Fuck ice fuck nugs
Acceptable
respect
Fair
you are so brave
Thank you!
Spurs fan here - but we’re all Nuggets fans when Cam Johnson speaks truth. FUCK ICE
you got a real one in San Antonio too
PROUD OF MY BOY CAM
Hell yeah 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Every player that speaks up gets a new fan as far as I’m concerned.
Not you, Jonathan Isaac
As a Magic fan, Isaac has always been a moron. Im not surprised by anything he says but did he say anything regarding this subject?
Waiting for him to do an Ice ride along
Same. I’m stanning anyone who speaks up.
KAT and Doc Rivers too
Doc Rivers
woah now let’s not be hasty
Doc is consistently on the right side of history and on the wrong side of basketball history
look of course i know this, just let us bucks fans be angry :(
Doc the coach isn’t the best, Doc the person is solid
YABU!
Kareem’s been on the right side of things since the 70s.
Yabusele
Davion or Donovan?
Donovan
Did Bron say anything yet
He’s checking in with Nike first
Idc if you’re a republican, democrat or whatever in-between or outside, but the fact that we’re seeing constitutional rights being denied should have a lot more players and people speaking up.
Republicans were silent after Sandy Hook, so I’m not sure what you’re really expecting from them here.
I completely agree. But even after Sandy Hook, the president didn’t come out and say we shouldn’t posses guns. Trump saying that you can’t have or walk with guns today should finally raise some Republican eyebrows.
If your eyebrows haven’t been raised yet that’s not gonna do it
People that follow him are cultists. Trump could shoot their family dead and they’d say thank you
The Republicans and the “BoTh SiDeS aRe baD” edgy centrists caused this stupid shit, constitutional rights have been denied for years, this shit isn’t new.
“He WaSn’T tHaT bAd HiS fIrSt TeRm”
People were honestly asleep for 4 years during his term.
Using your voice to raise awareness to this is much appreciated, Cam. Thank you
Meanwhile most NFL players are silent and the Minnesota Wild still played their home game, even after the T-Wolves postponed theirs.
The NBA certainly has its flaws, but they’re generally on the right side of domestic social issues and it makes me pretty damn proud to be a fan. Hockey and football can fuck right off with their conservative bootlicking.
Yea pro athletes have never been the brightest people, but as an NHL fan hockey players might be the worst of the lot. The literal captain of Minnesota’s team hasn’t said anything and the second leader on the team told the media to pray “for everyone involved”.
Brad Marchand is Canadian and has a gay sister, yet he was at the White House with his panthers teammates while Trump had the nerve to take a dig at Canada. That alone should have him off the Olympic team.
It doesn’t surprise me that a sport full of mostly white males who grew up comfortably would be out of touch, but it’s pretty unreal how bad it is amongst the fanbase and leadership, too.
Dont get me started with the Panthers and Tkachuk… bunch of cowards. Hockey has always been right leaning, but I gave the players the benefit of the doubt when it came to supporting fascism. Its clear now that they don’t care
But the NHL also has a lower domestic violence rates compared to the NFL & NBA
The Minnesota wild held a “Thin Blue Line Night” after George Floyd was murdered, fuck them
The NBA certainly has its flaws, but they’re generally on the right side of domestic social issues
It’s funny because just a few days ago, r/NBA ran to their keyboards the moment the tragedy happened & tried to argue NBA players were fascists for not having readymade statements. All that backlash aged like milk with quotes from different players popping up every hour
i understand why some people don’t, but these celebs need to start sending out actions for people to take. When Katy Perry’s one of the only ones to do that its a rough look. Thoughts and prayers do nothing
i respectfully disagree about this doing nothing
speaking up makes it easier for others to speak up. speaking up helps bring attention to Sincerely Fucked Up Shit and doesn’t let the media try to move on
You’re right and i guess I didn’t mean actually nothing because speaking up does matter. Sorry for my bad phrasing lol
I said the same thing yesterday. These dudes have so much money that could affect real change. They have direct lines to billionaires (owners) who have influence. Getting on the internet saying the same thing the rest of us are just feels like a missed opportunity to do more.
yeah that’s what i was more getting at. A lot of these people speaking out, including NBA players, have millions upon millions of dollars. More money than the average person could even fathom, and they don’t do anything with it to help or point anyone in the right direction with their influence/power. They just say “Thoughts and prayers” on instagram and move on. It’s a little ridiculous
Huh? Lots of celebrities have been speaking out. Katy Perry isn’t the exception.
that’s not what i said. Kary Perry gave a call to action when she spoke out which told people what they can do. Its different than just saying “thoughts and prayers thas fucked up 😭” like some Celebs did lol.
Cam is one of the realest ones
Tommy gave a shockingly non mealy mouthed and pretty unequivocal statement too. Like not mincing words at all- straight up said it was unamerican, violated people’s first and second amendment rights. Was genuinely shocked in the best way.
Who?
The other guy in the video, his name is Tommy Alter.
Ahhhh thanks, was racking my brain for Nets players named Tommy because of the first person’s flair lmao
Haha, no worries bro.
Tommy gets too much hate than he deserves tbh. Sure he’s a nepo baby but he’s decent enough at his job - not like he’s the worst podcast host in the world. Plus the players seem to like to go on the show.
Love Cam Johnson, always been a real one
Love Cam. Brings an ever so slightly different vibe in his public statements than MPJ did
Can’t wait for MPJs response
Love that we are seeing more players speaking out. Shout out to Hali and KAT who led the charge and shout out to all these guys following their example.
Fuck ice
If these guys wanna sit in front of a mic, do as Cam. Be informed and use your platform.
Don’t be silent about this stuff or say that “I don’t get involved in politics” bullshit. It’s beyond that.
Good on Cam. He’s got another fan in me
I’m glad more and more players are speaking up now.
The silence of all our favourite podcasters is deafening. Zach, Bill?? They both give the general impression of being people who might care to speak up but the $ seems to be winning at the moment. Republicans can fuck up their lives with sports gambling too! Don’t want to alienate anyone.
But what does Ja Rule think?
Dean Smith never met you Cam. But I promise he would be very proud of you.
Respect! Love players defending our city
W Cam
Every sport should strike until this bullshit stops. Shut the NBA down. Postpone the super bowl. It’s going to take something major.
Speak the truth my boy
SUNS GOAT
Forever a Suns Twin
It’s not senseless though. The government knows exactly what it’s doing.
Good on cam. If wemby can say something, an international player who risks being deported, then there’s pretty much no excuse for people now.
Im on your side, but there is a 0% chance wemby gets deported for this.
I love how woke he is!
Who cares? Can we stop with the political posts in here?
No.
And fuck off.
Athletes speaking up ain’t going to change shit. Athletes don’t speak for the normal people. They aren’t the harbingers of change in 2020 and aren’t that in 2026. Reddit isn’t reality
You sound scared to be against all this bullshit
Why would I be scared? Reddit is acting like this is 1940s Germany when it isn’t.
It sucks what happened but the real working class people move on with our lives
What? They’re killing US citizens who are protesting and standing up for what’s right. It’s that simple. It’s uncomfortable and I understand it doesn’t affect you so you’d like to sit back and look the other way, but a lot of people just can’t do that. When this is over and decency has won and you’re acting like you cared all along, no one will care that you didnt and you’ll have to live with that.
Are you going to stop your daily routine of life for this? Stop working? Stop putting food on the table? Stop paying bills?
All this sounds like you’re using two tragedies to be morally virtuous on the internet to strangers.
I’ll do whatever I can and continue to be a person that lives their life. You don’t have to choose. Actually you do have to choose. It’s your duty as a human being to stand up for injustice done to your human brothers and sisters. If you don’t, someone else will and someone will stand up for you when you need it, regardless of what you do because there will always be people who care. There is no other side to this that makes it look good and allows you to feel ok about going to work and not worrying about it
So nobody should go to work ignoring this and needs to have this on their kids 24⁄7. Is that what you’re saying? It’s NOT okay going to work unless I think about it?
I’m saying you should care that a power thirsty political group sees fit to extrajudiciously execute American citizens when they protest. It should bother you at work at home and everywhere. I’m not saying stop breathing I’m saying it’s laughable that you’re like “but I have work at 730 tomorrow” about the current political climate. Grow up
Look at you gatekeeping how we should feel for morality pats on the back you’re giving yourself. That’s why everything you say falls on deaf ears.
Can no one care about it without you saying “oh you’re just virtue signaling and gate keeping” has the internet just taken all your empathy and made you an uncaring person?
So glad we’re asking basketball players about this
You don’t have to be an expert to bring awareness to a topic. Nobody fucking listens to experts anymore, anyway.
Right? The same group that gets its talking points from podcasters who badmouth actual experts in their fields is awfully indignant when athletes have an opinion on something that isn’t sports.
“Nobody fucking listens to experts anymore, anyway.” True, and sad because instead people will listen to any crap that fits their worldview.
That being said, you don’t need to be an expert to speak out against murder of civilians.
It’s the internet. It’s 2026. You act like people are morons that can’t think for themselves that they need an athlete to tell them what to think
Yeah I just dgaf about what cam johnson thinks about Minnesota lmao
You’re here
And?
Me too. The people that truly matter
lol @ just being in the mix. He just happened to be there. These idiots speak on things like they know a lot about it. Be better
Fuck is your problem?
Pretti was a known agitator. He had broke his rib a week ago in an altercation with law enforcement. He also had been fired or quit his nursing job a few weeks ago.
So he deserved to die? You also don’t know about it or if anything you just said is true. Shocking that people like you exist
I don’t think he deserved to die no. What do you mean, do I know if things are true. As we have gotten further away from it more and more is coming out showing that he wasn’t just some guy walking on tha street, at that time sticking up for someone.
Like I said, shocking that people like you exist. I hope you’re able to heal
What does this have to do with the facts of the shooting? You’re just blatantly smearing him to justify his murder.
Actually when the incident happened I said that agent may get in trouble. As more comes out and we realize what happened, he may still but I could see how what happened, happened.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
Your brain couldn’t come up with any more spin, you’ve resorted to vague, incoherent nonsense.
Good to see you doing god’s work of digging deep with research and finding out Pretti wasn’t a perfect person. We are all now not outraged that he was disarmed, beaten, and repeated shot in the back. As we all know, agents should not get in trouble for murder if that person was not perfect.
Are you dumb?
Yes he is a moron
Is anything I just said inaccurate?
So if you broke your rib, quit your job, and decided to exercise your first and second amendment rights to have your cell phone out, filming an officer, maybe jeering at them, while lawfully possessing a holstered firearm, then I guess it would be okay if that officer pepper sprayed you and then shot you ten times for doing those things. You people are actual fucking idiots
He def deserved to get pepper sprayed for interfering with what was going on. Point is, you incels want to make him out to be some martyr when he isn’t. He played a stupid game. He knew what he intended to do that day and in his infinite wisdom decided to take his loaded gun and extra mags with him to do it.
Lay off the kool-aid, bud. You need to save room for the actual shit sandwich this administration will tell you is caviar, moron.
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Zinger!!!!
The video says enough. It was an execution by racists like you peddling that it’s okay to execute civilians