[Stark] We have two new Hall of Famers. Carlos Beltran and Andruw Jones have been elected by the BBWAA. We’d had 2 center fielders elected in the previous 45 years … and now 2 in one night!
Didn’t realize Centerfielder was that spare.
They threw Lofton off the first ballot CF has a crazy high bar
yes but also look at the ballot that year….
That ballot is insane. Give or take 20 hall of fame caliber players on at once.
Absolutely the nadir of HoF voting. That list of candidates and nobody gets in, Lofton (who should be in) and Wells (who at least deserved to stick around a couple years) drop off on their first year. I pray the BBWA never gets that far up its ass again.
It was also the first year that the main roid guys got on the ballot and the writers were still trying to figure out what to do with them.
That’s fair it was a crazy good ballot but CF the average is very very high compared to other positions
Lofton was robbed.
And Edmonds
John Fogerty may have exaggerated things.
I’d imagine not many primary CFs with both power and defence.
Edit: that is deemed good enough for Cooperstown.
Probably harder to stick at CF for a career too.
Yeah most move towards the end
Beltran and Jones no exception to this
Beltran cheated
You’re right. Keep Mookie out the hall!
Well, he’s not in it. Beltran is. Hope this helps.
Good! We have to keep him out. I don’t know where in my comment it appeared I needed help, but I didn’t. Thanks though! Hope you end up helping someone one day!
The blatant deflection and whataboutism about a hypothetical that hasn’t come to pass. That’s the part where you seemed to have an egregious disconnect from reality. Again, hope that helps.
Oh, you don’t see the correlation? I’m sorry these concepts and ideas are too complex for you. Have you considered paying attention in school? Hope this helps!
The correlation between a hypothetical you invented and brought up in response to something that actually just happened. I hope you keep this sort of enthusiastically intellectually dishonest sort of thinking to harmless stuff like sports, honestly.
I’m not intellectually dishonest because you couldn’t grasp it. However, no, my sports opinion actually shows you who I am as a person! If you have a different sports opinion than me, it’s because you’re obviously a better person than me.
Lmfao imagine being this offended by a comment regarding a player who cheated being enshrined in the Hall of Fame. Even funnier that he’s going in with a Mets Cap and not the Trashtros.
You don’t care about cheaters, your star player is one
Jim Edmonds was snubbed
Kenny Lofton too.
Griffey and Richie Ashburn?
I think they count Dawson as a CF.
Ashburn was inducted 30 years ago, though.
Actually I think he’s both not counting Dawson and not counting Vet’s Committee guys (like Ashburn), because Kirby Puckett was elected in 2001 and he’s for sure a CF.
Ahhh, discounted him because he had more games in right
White Sox legend Andruw Jones.
He’ll be enshrined along fellow White Sox legends Ken Griffey Jr., Jim Thome, Roberto Alomar, Steve Carlton, Ron Santo and Chief Bender
Tom Seaver too!
Never respected Thome as a member of the White Sox. I know I’m in the minority here. But fuck him, he beat the shit out of us for too long. I’d rather have Rowand and Big Hurt in 2006 than Erstad and Thome.
Excuse me, that’s Dodger legend
Finally, Andruw is in!
Took long enough to vote in the center fielder with the most dWAR in MLB history.
Kenny Lofton should be there too.
Well, sure, cuz hardly anyone plays CF past like 30.
Yeah only cause they fucked Lofton and Edmonds
I mean Andruw Jones is a HOFer because of 1996 World Series Game 1. Like he really only gave a shit before he got paid.
I wish there was a way to honor players who owned a chunk of a time - players of a decade, perhaps - but who don’t make the cut for the Hall. Then Lofton, Andrew Jones (sorry - the fall-off and a guilty plea to domestic violence knock him out for me) and more get the recognition they deserve. They were the story, the most feared for a few years but not long enough to get the ultimate honor.
I love David Wright (Mets fan) but as unfair as it is, injuries keep him out of the Hall. What (should) make HOFers different is that they did it over the long haul.
Also - if the character clause means nothing - take it out.
One HOFer and also Andruw Jones.
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A cheater and domestic abuser. Bravo BBWA.