Mike Brown seems like a coach that players tune out pretty quickly after his teams start losing more games than expected.

On the outside, he’s got an impressive resume, but it doesn’t seem like he has the cache to maintain buy-in among star NBA players.

NBA Cup Champs curse is the new Madden curse.

Firing Thibodeau was so hard because on one hand, I think they had reached their ceiling with him, but on the other hand there were no good replacements for him and they were left stuck with Brown. I genuinely am not sure who else they should’ve hired this offseason. 

Damn, almost like Thibs was actually a really good coach who got his guys to play hard and believe

This is on their FO. They fired Thib and hired Brown, paid way too much for Mikal, and I’m not sure Randle/Donte for KAT was a good trade either

I think people fail to mention that Mikal made it clear he wouldn’t sign an extension if he was playing under Thibs so they panic fired him and signed a players coach

The Kings were terrible against the 3 under Mike Brown… This might be a trend in his system that relies on constant switching.

The defense is a big issue right now, but our next-biggest issue is this entire rotation of great shooters simultaneously forgetting how to shoot threes for a sustained month. Idk if it’s fatigue or vibes or what, but they could fix the defense and still lose a lot of these games.

On the FO front… Bridges generally looks better and more active/versatile than last year, OG was playing the best ball of his career before the injury, and Clarkson was better than expected until this teamwide slump. I don’t think anyone could have predicted Yabusele falling off like this, so I won’t blame the FO there.

Towns is the one piece where I think time has run out. He’s never quite fit here and it’s gotten worse this season. Maybe you see what he looks like under a different coach one more time, but really he needs to be traded or reduced to a spot-up shooter + roll man.

I hope Mikal got what he wanted. Thibs fired and now we’re in this shit.

Wonder if they kept wanting Kidd cause that is who Brunson wanted? Say whatever about Kidd as a coach, but getting players to buy into their roles has been his biggest strength in Dallas.

Getting rid of Thibs was fine but moving off him only to get Mike Brown is diabolical. Man’s been fired off 4 teams already

That odd space where they didn’t want to play for Thibs but they also don’t want to play for Brown.

Can we bring back player coaches?

remember when people shit on the Kings for firing brown lol

he has a TON of flaws as a coach and it’s crazy it’s taking a big market team such as the knicks for people to acknowledge it.

Tom Thibiodeau to Mike Brown was a completely lateral move

What these guys are bitching about? Talent wise they are a roster with a good fit and a lot of talent

So last year it was the coaches fault too right

We just have a poorly constructed roster Mike Brown doesn’t know how to manage. Thibs hid our lack of depth and talent by playing only guys he trusted for 40mins a night.

How dare they slander Clarkson like that. He’s actually exceeded my expectations. Everything else is awful. I hate sports.

Said this when the Knicks hired him. Mike Brown has never once in his career elevated a roster. He either gets them to perform at exactly what the talent level on the team would lead you to expect or he underperforms brutally.

He’s too nice. He has no fight to him and he lost the respect of the locker room. It’s clear he has talent with offensive schemes. There have been stretches of the Knicks’ offense looking great, but it seems like once a Brown teams hits some adversity, he does not know how to motivate the team over the hump.

Also, Brown seems to have thrown Kat under the bus and didn’t have his back. For example, Draymond tripped Kat, risking an injury, then mocked Kat for being flamboyant as he skipped around. Brown’s response? Hugging Draymond and saying “ah, that’s just how he is”. Couple that type of nonsense with the constant trade rumors, I get why Kat is checking out.

Bottom line, if Brown can’t regain the respect of the locker room quick, his tenure is gonna end before the season ends.

Looks like they didn’t turn on the fucking jets

Speaking of Knicks coaches thibs looks very young for his age, he just turned 68

Certainly would help if they didn’t blow 5 firsts on Bridges.

here come the fucking hit pieces lmao. sports media is so predictably unsavory.

A team with KAT will never be a serious contender. He’s too busy commiting offensive fouls and stupid turnovers in crunch time. He single handedly lost a ton of games for the wolves. NY has to rely on Brunson in the clutch. They were hoping they could rely on their 7 footer instead of their 6 footer but kat is just not that guy.

So things went to shit when Dolan spoke to the media classic

This is my fault for my hubris. Thinking one of my teams turned a corner. Never. I am cursed.

Thats pure bs.
The Knicks have issues like every other team. Brunson probably isnt healthy and forced his way back early against us imo.
The only glaring lost they had against a good team the last 10-ish games was against the Hawks and they arent even bad.

People need to look back at their schedule the past remaining teams they faced were all good, the Blazers arent chumps , Pelicans are a tough out and even the Kings who get clowned can beat your fav team lol.

The alarming issue i see is the chemistry with Kat and Brunson, i wanted to see some improvement but it stays the same for whatever reason in most cases, Brunson and Kat play better when the other isnt on the floor.

Feels like the Dame & Giannis experiment it just doesnt work.

After a short hiatus “lolknicks” is back on the menu.

That damn cup is poison.

L. L

The Knicks need a Doctor to cure their ills.

Can’t remember who brought it up but apparently during a job interview Mike Brown once brought out two huge binders, one labelled “offense” and one labelled “defense”. Like he’s too smart and intricate to be effective as a coach because his systems are too in depth and complicated for players to implement effectively, leading to them getting lost and checking out

Hasn’t every IST Champion fallen off after winning the trophy. Maybe the Knicks have been worse but I remember this happening with Milwaukee and the Lakers the years they won.

sigh….

Ya Think?

Who are we talking about?

It’s not Jalen and it’s not Hart.

KAT has been a scapegoat for the fans, but where are OG and Bridges? Clarkson?

It was nice to see Jalen try to motivate the team from the bench on Monday but the only players that seemed to be locked in to what he was saying were guys that never play.

has any Mike Brown coached team?

Yeah a trade seems way less likely. Peace out Brown

I think Mike probably demands a lot of guys (in a nice way) but he never played at this level, so it falls on deaf ears after it feels like too much.

It’s not as though Mike keeps himself fit either. I think that’s one thing that undermines him

You don’t say

The solution is in plain sight. Fire Mike Brown and replace him with Brunson’s dad.

I don’t think Mike brown has got a single team to buy in throughout his entire career

The only team that bought into Mike Brown was the Cavs because the buy in as basically give LeBron the ball

hes a trash coach get him outta here they should never have hired him

While I think Brown is a decent coach, I’ve always felt he has almost a complete lack of any charisma during his post game media appearances. Not what I would expect from a leader of men.

You get paid multiple millions a year to play ball, WTF do you need to convinced of?

This has to be Brown’s last head coaching gig right????!! How many times are FOs going to overlook his extensive history of being a problematic coach and underdelivering?

This is the article that drops before the firing. Should be done tomorrow before we play the Nets.

1. Thibs needed to go. Only playing 6 guys and refusing to adjust are a great way to win regular season games and lose playoff ones. It’s also a great way to end up with injuries.

2. Players are off base. KAT is pouty. Bridges has been better, but hasn’t played Phoenix-level defense for more than a handful of possessions in the last few years and he’s not an option 1a. Trading five firsts probably doesn’t convince him he needs to change. Brunson has done better getting off ball, but it’s hard to give that up.

3a) Mike Brown is a good coach. The Kings are an unassailable example. It’s not his fault Vivek threw the DeRozan grenade into the team.

3b) Mike Brown is bad with people. Players always seem to dislike him.

1. Unreasonable expectations. You can’t win with two terrible defensive players playing that many minutes. This Knicks team was NEVER going to be good enough to win a title without absurd injury luck. The conference finals should have been a highlight, the Cup should have been a proud moment. Instead, they act like these successes aren’t worth anything and the only thing is a title. Why are we surprised when they fail or fall flat nobody is pulling together?

Unreasonable expectations, players with roles they don’t want to change, an irritating coach who is likely right. This isn’t a recipe for success.

Trading all that for Mikal and then letting thibs go cause of him is certainly a choice.

Bring Thibs back

Dolan is a super-toxic owner and can’t stop himself from sabotaging the team.

Despite his flaws, I still think the Thibs firing was a big mistake.