[Woo] Dodgers continue to engage on Freddy Peralta: What it says about their rotation
Can’t lose all of your starting pitching in July to injuries if you have a 10 man rotation.
First off through the power of Mark Prior anything is possible so jot that down
Mark might have to come out of retirement to pitch
I was prepared for Koufax coming out of the stands to pitch in G3 of the WS
Hey he’s only a few months older than Rich Hill
“You feel that popping sensation in your rotator cuff? That means it’s getting stronger.”
Mark Prior finally testing out the Saiyan theory of strength and conditioning.
isn’t Prior the poster child for pitcher’s getting injured due to mechanics and arm usage/stress?
Seems like with all the Dodgers pitchers that go down each year, he’s pretty much staying on brand
To be fair to the guy, have you seen the Dodgers lineup and the pitchers they go after? They don’t shy away from pitchers with injuries.
“He got a TJS recently? Good, so he’s good for a bit until his second then.”
Look at their current rotation: Ohtani, Snell, Glasnow, Yamamoto, (Roki?)…
You’d think for all the praises that front office and organization get about pitching focus, player development, scouting, etc…you think they’ll keep employing “poster child for pitcher’s getting injured due to mechanics…”?
I’m sure he doesn’t care being the scapegoat as long as the checks cleared, but putting it on Prior is pretty silly.
Anybody else find it kinda poetic that Prior is their pitching coach?
“Let’s sign all of the best, most injury ridden pitchers on the market. And let’s make their coach a guy that blew out his elbow after 2-3 years in the bigs. Then his shoulder. Repeatedly. Then his oblique. And his groin. And his shoulder again. He can teach great, sustainable mechanics”
Dodgers should be sending out these mega deferral contracts to lab full of conditioning scientists at this point
The major league pitching coach doesn’t do a ton with mechanics. They’re more about figuring about usage patterns, scouting reports/game plans, and pitch design. Their job is also to be an intermediary between the analytics nerds and the pitchers who might need more concrete “do this” type advice worded in ways an athlete would understand it. They might know a pitcher’s cues and be able to notice something is off and tell them shit like “you’re flying open, keep your elbow on target”. But they won’t really be involved in building a pitcher’s mechanics at that level. Half the pros go to private pitching labs in the off-season for stuff like that.
Edit to add: The optics of it, however, I agree are pretty funny.
Exactly. This has long been their strategy. Have enough always injured guys that someone has to be healthy. That was Ryu’s whole career lol
Ryu was so fucking cool
By the All-Star break our starting rotation will be Sheehan, Wrobleski, and bullpen games
River Ryan is going to have a great year I feel it in my bones
For the Tigers
not with that attitude
Tbf if they’re trading for Peralta it’s probably costing them their #6 starter (Sheehan) + their top prospect pitcher (River Ryan)
Dodgers run a 6 man cuz of Ohtani. Peralta would likely become the #5 with Roki becoming the #6.
I know no one wants to hear it from us. but If we have 50 starters and relievers I’d only believe it when I say it.
Challenge accepted
If getting Freddy Peralta (and signing him) hurts their chances of getting Skubal and Skenes then I’m going to be pissed. I don’t see an ideal fan experience if I don’t get to see a rotation of Skubal / Skenes / Ohtani / Yamamoto / Snell / Glasnow / Sasaki. I will be PISSED!
Just replace Glasnow with Peralta, problem solved. Lol
Yes! Now we’re talking!!!
They probably don’t trade their under 20 OF phenoms for Peralta and you have to figure no one is untouchable for Skubal and Skenes :-p
satire aside, you just hope some guys have egos and dont want to be in someone else’s shadow.
they wanna be the game 1 starter and the game 7/clincher emergency pitcher in relief
they dont want to be the game 2 or game 3 starter and sit on their hands
Snell didn’t mind
>some guys have egos
Never said they all do. Just like some just want a ring and some want to be Batman and not Robin (or Batgirl or Bat boy or Alfred or … ah i give up, Dodgers have too many supporting cast to keep listing Batman sidekicks/helpers)
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He’s a 2 time Cy Young winner
Not just that but I wonder if there is an element of staying practiced. If you pitch less often then you might not perform as well. Each game is building experience, and there is no equivalent experience of playing in an mlb game.
Same with batting. But maybe im wrong and it’s no big deal for experienced guys but I think it would have an impact at some point.
You read my mind.
That’s what I’m sayin
I am so mad that it really looks like the Tigers won’t be keeping Skubal, but honestly that is par for the course with us..
If the Dodgers wanted Skubal they would have him, they have alot of cheap expendable high upside young pitching, I don’t think they want to move those young guys without an extension and giving Skoobs 400m when he has 2 TJs under his belt doesn’t seem like a good idea. Skenes on the other hand im sure Friedman absolutely wants.
They did pay 700 million for someone with 2 TJs though so who knows
Some guy in AA is gonna get promoted this season full of excitement only to realize his first game is against a 30 WAR pitcher, not because they’re injured but because there was no more room on the 40 man roster.
This comment is snarky and fun until you realize there is a significant chance this will literally happen.
The best snark is that which has truth to it.
They will just move guys to the pen right? Just say fuck middle relief and carry starters for middle relief and setup
For a while the Brewers were so bad against left handed pitching that teams would just promote a left-hander from AA to face them.
or just, you kow, emmet sheehan. dude is a stud and would be a top 2-3 starter on any other team.
Yeah I can’t be mad if they get him by trade. That’s on the people who traded him.
And the people who didn’t. This team is really frustrating but they’re a monster in part because other big money market teams have decided to pretend they’re poor franchises who need to play like Tampa. LA bullies folks with their wallet but they’ve pulled off several frustratingly good trades while other squads are hanging out with their thumbs up their ass.
Yeah, the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Braves, tier of teams wildly underspending hurts the competitive balance of the sport in a serious way, and they don’t get nearly as much heat as small market teams doing just standard arbitration stuff
https://twinstrivia.com/2025/04/05/mlb-teams-revenue-versus-payroll/
this speaks to your point. The teams you mention all had revenue of 500M+ yet are only using 50% or less of that on payroll.
The serious teams (Dodgers, BlueJays and a few others) are up at 60%+
Yankees are at over 700M revenue, but were at similar spending %age as the orioles
Right now, MLB landscape is the rich teams willing to spend get richer (both monetary and talent) while the rich teams unwilling to spend keep acting like welfare franchises trying to penny pinch their way to mediocrity, the middling teams and the actual welfare teams being exactly what they are both in revenue and performance
Reading this just reignites the rage about these teams getting stadiums built exclusively funded by people working regular lives.
Edit for spelling lol
…these what?
Lmaooo thanks for pointing it out I edited it lol
And these revenue figures are without even taking fixed costs into account. If you assume every team has about $170 million in fixed costs per year, the Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs are all in the bottom 5 for % of revenue spent on payroll
I blame the D backs from a few years back. Everyone now is like LOOK THEY DID IT WITH THIS LOW PAYROLL! Like sure ok but that was more of a one off not a model to fucking follow
At least it’s theoretically value out / value in.
And it would be their young outfielders going out who seemingly have no pathway to a major league career now.
I don’t think they deal de Paula, Hope, Sirota or Quintero. I’m assuming Dalton rushing would be gone cause they have no room for him and maybe one one of Davalan, Thibbs or Harlan.
I actually think the OF has to be major league ready. So de Paula would probably be involved. Ot’s not like the Dodgers are afraid of losing talent
De Paula is not major league ready, or at least the least of the big OF prospects
Possible starter for any other team has to while away their career in the minors on the back end of the Dodgers 40 man roster.
I would expect it to be young pitchers + maybe one of the position players
Emmett Sheehan + River Ryan seem like guys the Brewers would want so they can replace Peralta with young controllable arms who can start in the Majors now
You make a good point. But the Brewers will need an OF at some point to replace Yelich.
Those outfielders (at least the very top names) are NOT major league ready, and would only be available in a Skenes/Skubal potential trade.
de Paula is real close.
Not really. Trade value takes into account how much you need to pay a guy. If the dodgers don’t care about money, they can pay more value for trades and still come out on top.
Yes, you’re right of course.
It’s only equal in/out if both sides are similarly constrained financially (as the cash savings/additional cost would result in changes elsewhere in the rosters) but that’s clearly not the case.
It’s frustrating to see how well functioning of a franchise the Dodgers have become. They obviously have deep wallets but people forget their farm system is always so good.
Living through the Fox/McCourt/payroll loan days gives me hope that other teams with rotten owners (looking st YOU Fisher) will have better days ahead
Divine punishment for Bud Selig wanting to sell the Dodgers to the lowest bidder
They obviously have deep wallets but people forget their farm system is always so good.
those 2 things are related
Because their invest ungodly amounts there too. Its just money at every level.
I was encouraged watching this video that there seem to maybe be a few teams who are looking at what the Dodgers have been doing for years now and are beginning to follow in their footsteps, and seeing it as a blueprint rather than just something to complain about. Because the truth is that the solution to any perceived imbalance in baseball is not to nerf the Dodgers or ask them to not try so hard, but for other teams to raise their game and effort to match what the Dodgers are doing.
Their farm system is incredibly overrated and has been since around Covid.
So scouts have a Dodgers bias?
Hype has a Dodgers bias.
You get things on here, for instance, (I think coming from MLB Pipleline, which is part of the entertainment industry) claiming that the Dodgers have the #1 farm system–and yet the top of the system especially is pretty average at best. BA, which is a much more professional source has finally dropped the farm ranking somewhat but still rank it much higher than is warranted by what they agree is a lack of top end talent. There was a huge gap between the tail end of when the Dodgers system was really productive (basically ending with Will Smith) and when there finally were some genuine MLBers that were produced (at least in part) from the Dodgers system in 2025. Hope is the most comical example of Dodger hype since he really wasn’t that highly regarded until he was traded to the Dodgers and then all of a sudden he’s the next James Outman.
Everything the Dodgers do is just because they spend significantly so, so much more than everyone else in the league.
Their farm is great and can keep producing and retaining talents because they hardly ever have to move pieces from it to make a big addition because they add so many marquee free agents.
Regardless of their needing to be two to make a deal, how they are able to position themselves to trade for almost anyone and sign almost anyone is just not good for the sport.
They also can keep guys down there longer and let them develop, no need to rush. Also plenty of guys are AAAA or in between AA and AAA throughout the league, the dodgers could be sitting on a pile of fools gold but other teams will trade for it hoping it’s real
When they traded for Glasnow they immediately extended him so just give it a couple days.
Part of those trade negotiations was Glasnow agreeing to an extension before they traded for him, wasn’t it?
It was.
Which seems silly considering the contract we gave him and his injury history
When you have the assets the Dodgers have, do those people even have a reasonable choice?
Having seen my team come short at the expense of Milwaukee many times over the last decade…I am confident the Brewers would work some magic out where they get a good return as well.
Think it’s more about the opportunity cost than anything. When’s the next time you can get a no 1⁄2 pitcher for $8 million?
Especially when you have one of the top farm systems in baseball? Such a good farm that you’re giving away Michael Busch because you have Freddy Freeman blocking him? And when you trade him you get good prospects back like Hope?
when the new ownership took over a decade plus ago they didn’t spend big on major league talent. They put millions into scouting and development. The Dodgers draft last and often lose draft picks when they sign free agents. And they still have the #1 farm system.
Meanwhile the Pirates owner takes profits every year and they have a handful of scouts on the payroll.
They did actually spend pretty big to keep us competitive until the farm was running.
They didn’t become cheap or anything but I think it was pretty clear they understood that the way back to becoming dominant was to build from the bottom up. So you saw massive investment into scouting, development, stadium improvements, fan experience etc.
We also got outbid for Seager and Trea Turner. I think they made the calculation that Seager wasn’t worth a long term deal because of injury history. The profits from the Ohtani deal certainly changed things.
All I am saying is they did a good job spending on the Major Leagues roster to keep us competitive while fixing things. They didn’t just focus on the minors.
Agreed.
I think they made the calculation that Seager wasn’t worth a long term deal because of injury history. The profits from the Ohtani deal certainly changed things.
It was more about “saving” money to go after Ohtani and Yamamoto. Post-Ohtani that doesn’t seem a problem anymore as you rightfully point out, but there was a time when we did not have literal unlimited money (insert woody_harrelson_crying_money.gif)
not in terms of free agents because they traded for all those players on the 2013 team other than Puig. Obviously they still have to pay the contracts and had to eat a few bad contracts to get those trades done but it was very different from now.
They acquired a lot of payroll via trades though. Hanley Ramirez, Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett. Then they signed Grenke to a big deal.
My point is only that they did invest significantly in the Major League roster while rebuilding.
And flip him at the deadline for a silly prospect haul to maintain your prospect dominance.
No way Dodgers would flip him at the deadline if he’s performing. It’s just as important to keep him away from the competition as it is to have him in their portfolio.
It says that when you’re willing to spend whatever it takes - prospects don’t matter
Andrew Friedman is on the fuck them picks star of his career.
Dodgers are gonna be like those franchise teams in the show that have like 8 starters and 5 relievers on the roster
Pretty sure that’s literally what their split was in the world series last year lol. But obviously only a 7 game series roster but still tons of starters very few relievers
genuinely why
We all remember that dodgers rotation gets injured by mid July
The poor hitters in aaa facing snell, glasnow, and peralta
The combination of Mark Prior plus unlimited money is a dangerous one
Last season you burned through pitchers like you were smoking Cuban cigars, that’s why
Depth depth depth. Really think Glasnow or even the entire rotation lasts all season? I don’t.
Dodgers have a lot of guys coming back from injury. But probably going to get eased back in. But a bunch of dudes are also out the entire year. They just need to scotch tape like 15 different guys into a 5-6 man rotation lol. And yea some pitchers are probably going to end their season early due to injury. Just trying to have 5 solid guys at all times.
The dodgers will be getting a more from Ohtani-Roki-Sheehan who came back rom injury and were limited and also are going to have River Ryan and Gavin Stone working their way back. Sure other starters will get hurt but that’s 5 guys who gave us a combined 150 innings last year that we will have this year that we didn’t really have in 2024.
Because he’s an absolute stud who’s only making 8M.
I mean stud is going a bit far but yes he’s good lol
To make the Brewers worse
The funny thing is I think its in the Dodgers best interest to keep the Brewers as good as possible so they win the division since the Dodgers legit own them in the postseason.
Meh, we took you to 7 games in 2018, lost in 2020*, & got smoked by the most expensive team ever assembled in 2025. All while being the smallest market in baseball. I hope the lockout is worth it.
Opportunity cost, nothing more. If the Brewers wana move him and nobody is blowing them away why not dangle Wroblo and some lottery ticket and see if they bite?
feel like bs to raise interest up to me.
This shit is getting boring
Already?
Just send every player to the Dodgers, fuck it. Major League Dodgers.
MLB needs a modern dynasty run like the Patriots and the Warriors to grab public interest. Casuals love winners, and it is the right time to bandwagon for the potential 3-4peats, and say you were there.
This is the truth everyone’s too angry to admit. So many people will complain about Ohtani and the Dodgers now, but dynasties and megastars are what grow sports. It’s part of why the most recent baseball player most Americans even remember is Derek Jeter
Very true but when said team is beating you constantly its hard to stomach people telling you “its good for baseball”
I don’t think a salary cap will help Milwaukee if they don’t want to pay their NLCS ace $8m
It’s his last season of club control. They’re listening on offers, to see if it’s worth getting something for him now - especially after the season he had last year.
There’s also a logjam of RHP’s wanting a spot in the rotation (Henderson, Patrick, Miz, Priester, Myers….); plus you have Woody, after he accepted the QO. They’ll want to add a lefty or two in there, somewhere; they’re not going to use an opener every two or three games.
It’s not that Milwaukee doesn’t want to pay him $8m. It’s that they’d be dumb not to at least see what they could get for him. “Listening to offers” is not the same as “Wants to trade him.”
Exactly.
Big pitching contracts are super risky and Peralta’s numbers look a lot better than they actually should’ve been. As frustrating as it is to watch guys go every year, I wouldn’t be as torn up about this one.
Freddy brings a lot of value as a leader, and as a great clubhouse presence. That’s where I’d hate to see him go.
Oh for sure, but even with a cap they can’t sign everyone. I’d rather be putting money towards Contreras than Peralta.
Yall know there IS more to this than money. Fucking dodger fans man
Anytime you can get .50 on the dollar you have to take it
cheaper in prospect haul compared to skubal. all 29 other clubs should be engaging on peralta tbh. how often does an ace / number 2 starter making 8M become available anyway ?
He was too good to be true last year. I mean he’s really good, but probably not 2.70 ERA good.
In 2025 he ran a low BABIP, xERA of 3.47, FIP of 3.64, and xFIP of 3.87. No ‘26 projection has him under a 3.50 ERA.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a fantastic pitcher who supplies innings. I wish we had him too. But his 2026 stats will likely be closer to his career stats than his 2025, and the Brewers would be right to ask for an absolute haul in return in this situation.
Yeah, I like Freddy and I think he’s a good clubhouse presence. But really he’s closer to a #2/#3 pitcher than an ace. I think the Brewers are trying to sell high here.
and also bc he’s a FA after the season.
Yes that too
Is this Rotation A, Rotation B, or contingency Rotation C?
He’s the leader around which we will build Auxiliary Rotation D
At this point, the Dodgers are just making sure no other team gets these guys.
I think it’s really funny that the Dodgers aren’t only one of the richest teams, but also have the best farm system for players. They can literally just get any player they want.
It’s like a death blow to read that your team is interested in a player only for a later report to read that the Dodgers are as well. That’s the case right here, rumored interest in Peralta from Yanks, and the package would probably be a trade of Gil or Warren plus prospects, their best possible offer, and it 100% loses out on even the mid tier package the Dodgers have.
All this is to say that the Dodgers are really good at what they do, congrats to them on getting Freddy lmao
That’s because when the new ownership took over a decade plus ago they put millions into scouting and development. They didn’t sign any big free agents.
Meanwhile you have clubs like the Twins doing this
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/09/twins-make-cuts-to-scouting-department.html
The Twins have one pro scout.
Not even trying.
That’s what we always hear, but when you ask them who they’ve developed since Will Smith debuted 7 years ago you don’t get very clear answers. I guess Busch, a strong side platoon 1B, Pepiot, and Pages who they eventually benched in the World Series are the most obvious answers.
Pages who they eventually benched in the World Series
Pages had a really good year, was awful with the bat in the playoffs then casually made a championship saving play in game 7 of the World Series.
Sheehan, Stone, Miller (💀), Wrobleski, Casparius, Ryan, and Graterol, and probably a few more I’m forgetting. Problem is they’re all pitchers …
It doesn’t matter when it comes to value the prospect hold. They could not work out but that’s true for any prospect in any minor league system the important part is other teams also value the dodgers farm system very high and did so when they traded a lot of the guys the past few years whether they panned out or not you can’t predict what’s going to happen with these young guys in general.
I mean, I agree, but who am I to argue that the reported rankings are wrong?
I’m on board with anything the Dodgers do that takes them further away from pitching Yamamoto for all 9 innings of every single game.
“As a reward for demolishing our best season ever in the NLCS, here’s our best pitcher!”
Not gonna stop until every single member of the 40 man roster is an ace, closer, or mvp.
I can’t wait for this man to grace my television screen again
Same here way more excited for that then I am the Cardinals season lol
Q: “I’m gonna cancel the Dodgers”
If he can do that he is the unanimous 2026 MVP
Trade prospects for Peralta. Trade Glasnow to recoup prospects. Take money saved and sign Skubal to extension after trading the Glasnow prospects + more to the Tigers at the deadline.
and they will try to get Skubal and Skenes too?
2 TJs probably scares them off Skoobz, Skenes absolutely.
Ask Boston about Dodger trades, ask around the league, Milwaukee, find another trade partner
Yordan turned out alright
That was 10 years ago, and pretty sure he never even had a plate appearance with LA’s farm system. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=alvare000yor I can’t seem to find him playing a single game for LA. It’s like talking about a draft pick who didn’t sign as the one who got away. Really demonstrates how people can’t counter this argument, naming a prospect from 10 years ago who never played for you.
You get Peralta, we get Shohei. Who says no?
Decoy
Disgusting FTD
Are other teams aware that they can sign and trade for players too? Holy fuck
Just give him a billion dollars who cares? Can’t win without paying in a pay to win competition.
They experienced bad bullpen for a couple of seasons, saw that acquiring Michael Kopech works, and decide to stack it with starting pitchers.
I mean, it’s the Dodgers, at this time they can do whatever the hell they want
should change 2026 WS format to
Dodgers vs best players of the rest 29 teams combined.
Dodgers’ s 40 man roster rn is already full before the Tucker signing, and they need to get rid of minimum 2 guys for this trade to happen , they could trade players from the main 40 but I cant think of anyone.
if we make any big trades Sheehan is gone for sure
Man, I like that kid, always throw for strike.
Ryan Ward , Mike Siani
I could see the Dodgers DFA’ing Michael Siani to open a spot for Tucker.
IF the Dodgers do trade for Peralta, the Brewers reportedly want a major-league ready pitcher in the deal, which makes me think the Dodgers would need to include someone on the 40-man just for that reason. Casparius, Wrobleski, and Knack jump out as possible players in a trade package (not necessarily the centerpiece).
I thought the standard nowadays is 6-7. Dodgers are about to have 10. The might have starters as long relievers lmao
“Log in or create a free account” I will never log in or create a free account!!!
This is the one guy I realistically saw the giants going in for this offseason, so either this is leverage to get them to pay more or I expected something from a franchise that thrives off going .500
So make a 300-400m salary cap with 100m floor. Dodgers will max out the cap, other teams will hover around 100m. Players salaries will decrease overall and Dodgers can pick up their superstars cheaper. And since there’s a cap, no revenue sharing penalty for going over the CBT allowing the Dodgers to pocket even more.
It says that if a big arm goes down in September they have a good to go replacement.
This isn’t gonna happen so just forget about it.
Anything the Dodgers do at this point is possible. Same team that pried away Scherzer and Trae Turner in a trade at one point.
Just a reminder that the Jays gave up 2 higher prospects for Berrios than what the Dodgers gave up for Scherzer and Turner
austin martin and semien woods richardson aren’t exactly lighting up the baseball world to be fair
Tbf Josiah Gray and Kiebert Ruiz also haven’t done too much so far in their careers. Always trade your prospects kids
prospects are prospects until they proven themselves. banners hang forever. parades over prospects ! ironically enough scherzer and trea turner performed well for us in LA despite not winning a championship here in LA. still would do that trade 100 times out of 100 !
That trade was worth it just for this
They do that trade 100% of the time but Friedman never operates with that mindset. Fans were screaming at him over the deadline last season
thank the baseball gods we won the WS last year otherwise the trade deadline would have been a squandered opportunity !
Berrios had control left. Scherz was a rental and trea was one year.
and berrios was also willing to sign an extension, which he did. scherzer and trea turner were always testing FA.
It’s just a fever dream. The Brewers aren’t that stupid.
If the Dodgers offer surpasses any other team’s offer, is it stupid? At some point the Brewers have to think selfishly
They won’t help their biggest threat in the NL.
Why would any team make a trade to the Dodgers to strengthen their team further?