Nuggets now have a better winning percentage WITHOUT Jokic than with him
Nuggets are now 7-3 without Jokic good for .700, while with him are 22-10 at .688. Has Jokic’s impact to his team been vastly exaggerated?
Source: I counted manually
We must trade Jokic away </3
AD, Christie & Lakers 2029 1st?
Throw in Pickett to make it fair
We’ll throw in Nnaji as well.
Can you guys take DLo too?
Drawing the line there
I read this as Pickens at first and thought hell naw. Then I was like actually yeah.
fat and cant play defense duh
Nah ive got health concerns about Jokic, let’s keep Christie out
You think Luka will come back if we get him 🥲
You think the Nuggets would take Ous and a Clippers FRP for him?
This is the type of greed they talk about in the bible
Well, it’s the Spurs fault… Thunder need Jokic to have a chance against you guys
Presti can still nuke the NBA by pressing the red button and getting Giannis.
i know the thunder have a shit ton of picks but i’ve never seen them laid out in terms of what’s most valuable etc
Clippers pick is literally one albatross injury away from being lottery again, they been balling like maniacs and still are barely at the 10th seed, could crash down to 13th again real quick.
they have like ten different first round picks over the years but i forget which teams they come from- save for the clippers bc everyone remembers the massive trade for PG
We still have Clippers pick for next year and the 2028 Mavs pick.
Always knew he was a bum. Never understood why he was playing over Nnaji
How do you pronounce two nn’s?
Jokic is a system center
Ayton, Rui and a first round pick.
We have a package for you!
Only if includes CJ McCollum
Legacy points subtracted.
Yall interested in some draft picks with a side of Ous?
Rights to Poku?
Ill give you Denis Schroeder and a 2nd,would be a first if Jokic wasn’t fat.
Damn they should probably shop him & see what they could get
AD and Christie are available?
I’d rather have Gafford than AD tbh
You drive a hard bargain!!!
Makes sense. I’ve seen enough already to know the plan going forward should be to build around Tim Always Hard Jnr.
KAT’s a winner. I think he’ll fit well on the Nuggets. We can bite the bullet and facilitate the trade, I’m in a giving mood
Yeah how many NBA cup titles Jokic got? Zero? Pathetic.
Just another overrated, fat European like Luka. Trade him to the Lakers for a work horse like Ayton
10 FRP
Shump, TT, Nets pick
This is a great shitpost but coming from a Bucks fan it might actually be sincere…
Edit: holy fuck it is sincere, OP’s post history is Jokic obsessed.
Idk if it’s just me but I find people like this quite scary. That level of obsession never bodes well
Need to solicit their synopsis of Catcher in the Rye
Sports subs have some of the most randomly smart posts in them.
Lot of people will jockingly said “elite hater” when they see a post like that but in reality it’s quite scary and sad. It’s even sadder when you think there is a good chance OP is an adult.
I saw someone on Twitter say they would ‘skin Jokic alive’ so yeah it’s getting really weird. People can dislike whoever they want but there’s a point where it crosses a line and just becomes insanity
These guys that obsessively post about a player they like is one thing, but to post about a player they hate is unhinged and unhealthy.
Idk if it’s a symptom of the world just not providing good ways to join communities and so they latch onto this for interaction or they are just deranged
Elite hater
bucks fans are weird as shit
This Bucks fan in particular
Obvious false flag account with another successful rage bait post
320 comments in an hour is crazy lmao he struck while the iron was hot
Mf got Wemby name with a bucks flair on a burner dedicated to hatin one person for 2yrs. he ain’t no bucks fan he a fraud 😭
I checked his history too and he’s genuinely been hating for a year straight, how’s he so consistent omg😭😭
You can always count on OP for Jokic slander
Elite hating with ur post history
At a first glance, this looks like an A+ quality shitpost.
…Then you look at OPs post history and realize he’s dead serious
OP is deranged
OP should be on a list lmao
Imagine hating Jokic so much that now he is rooting for the Nuggets to win more…
Meanwhile Bucks is 14-13 even with Giannis on the court lol.
Going to tell my kids how powerful the hate got between MVP candidate fans in the 2020s.
He’s a Giannis fan he’s watching from the corner
Ha. You weren’t lying. This man hates the joker.
Possibly the greatest I’ve ever seen. I wonder if Skip is hiring
I’m gonna be real I did not sub for the basketball
lol you aren’t joking. What a fucking loser
David Adelman COTY
Also /u/Webanyama2029mvp Mathlete OTY for manually counting to 0.688
Best Long Division performance of the year so far.
nah he has to learn how to count first Nuggets are 7-4 without Jokic as he left at half time vs Miami and scores were tied… and then Nuggets got blown out ….
I’d rather Adelman not win COTY. I don’t want him to be fired 1-2 years from now.
we’re going to need to have some conversations about some conversations
Take a look at that schedule bud
The fact that we just beat your team makes the comment so much funnier
I was worried we might win for a bit there but khris had my back
Wizard fans hating on middy makes me wanna puke, give em back then please
Ngl when the wizards and my bulls swept the nuggets in the regular season last year i knew that year was a wash for yall. This season feels different
He’s also counting the Heat loss when Jokic got injured against Jokic for some reason
Because this post isn’t a shitpost, he’s genuinely trying to make the case that the team is better without Jok 😭😭
For the sake of his argument!
I guess a win in toronto, in boston, in Philly isn’t that good ig
the Boston win was a good one for sure.
The reffing was…interesting. At first fucking you guys over then at the end of the game it was just incomprehensible garbage. JB shoulders someone, offensive foul. Does the same thing again, shoots free throws.
Boston win was good but lets not act like refs had nothing to do with it.
I legit feel bad for JB near the end of the game…
In my opinion all East teams suck yes even the Pistons and Knicks
Boston played like a college ball team when we played against them. There were periods of 6+ minutes where neither team hit the rim or the backboard.
the philly game was glorious.
That’s how it goes
Finally beat our rival in the east ✊
Its good that the Wizards clearly didn’t want to win. We got swept last year thought we losing this one for sure.
Who has 5 FRP and multiple young stars they are trying to shop? We building around Watson now.
Jokic and Wemby. Let’s go!
That would just be unfair
Incidentally, the spurs also have a better record without wemby than with him too. Team addition by substraction would go so hard lol.
Would genuinely require a good coach to get the most out of it, but the ceiling would be ridiculous when it’s clicking.
It’s only natural. They have the best Canadian point guard in the league after all.
This, but without the irony.
I mean look at Murray’s numbers this season
Jokic just a Murray merchant
Read the title and instantly knew who posted ts
Bro i just checked his post history, professional hater
OP scares me or makes me sad idk which. Either way he should spend his time doing something else, yikes
That’s that Aaron Gordon difference, give AG the MVP.
Gordon be like prime Draymond here
Game winning dunk, never forget that
Buzzer beating dunk at that
Brother, they were struggling against us. I doubt this game would’ve been close if Jokic was healthy
Honestly, beating the Wizards regardless of who is healthy has been a massive struggle for the Nugs.
Wizards are Jokic’s father. Good thing he’s out. I’d crash out if he dropped another 50 pt TD only to lose.
Its nothing man its just a joke. Also you guys played so well during the 2nd and 3rd quarters so dont downplay yourselves
Unfortunately if you look at OP’s post history, it’s not a joke. They’re actually unhinged
Didn’t the wizards beat them in both matchups last season?
Yup. One ended a 16 game losing streak too. I’ve literally never seen our subreddit in such shambles than it was after that game. It was BAD
Only PGT ever people were saying to rebuild and trade Jokic and getting actual upvotes
What’s the winning % of the teams we’ve beaten? It’s a tough schedule in terms of how many games we’re playing but the opponents aren’t that great (sorry wizards bros)
It is lower than .500, but there were some good teams from the east that they have won against.
Good teams from the East?
It’s a relative term. Like a skinny person in Oklahoma.
Lol
Oxymoron
We beat Boston in this stretch, Philly is decent as well. These are not all games against scrubs.
Nuggets without Jokic just like the Celtics without Tatum would be a top 3 seed in the East
That conference is absolutely rancid
If it were rancid, bucks wouldn’t be the 11th seed
or maybe the bucks are especially rancid
The Bucks are absolutely horrible lmao why are you talking like they’re a good team
One great player (who has missed like 15 games) does not make a great team
Nah, it’s just the Bucks without Giannis are actually as bad as people pretend the Nuggets without Jokic are.
this is the only year that the nuggets are steady without jokic cause we finally have depth. their combined record in all other years without jokic is like 20-36
You realize jokic took a team with a dude that was out of the league the very next year as the 2nd option to the 6th seed right? I’d argue until last year giannis always had a better supporting cast than jokic. This year the bucks are terrible, no doubt about that.
Winning a playoff series with Facundo Campazzo and Austin Rivers starting. 🤣
Spurs are 13-2 vs East…two losses were to Cavs after blowing leads (every game involves a Spurs blown lead)
we are pretty much middle of the pack in the last stretch (ignoring the horrendous 2nd half after jokic went down cause the vibes were terrible and we got blown out), around 18th net rating, just pulling buckets out of the hat over and over again to take the clutch wins
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My guess with THJ is Nuggets have probably simplified his role so he’s able to just shoot the fuck out of the ball.
Nah that was his role with the mavericks as well he just couldn’t shoot the broad side of the barn after he came back from injury
JB Bickerstaff
Front runner when Bickerstaff has the Pistons at number 1 is insane
Havent seen this guy for a while. Man hows bucks doing?
you’re about to find out what the Bucks record will be without Giannis. in perpetuity.
Ironic post coming from Wemabyama2029mvp considering the same thing applies to his guy.
He’s a fraud and a Bucks fan don’t let him represent us
Q: Has Jokic’s impact on this team been greatly exaggerated?
A: No.
Nuggets finally win vs Washington without jokic? Coincidence? I THINK NOT (horse man obv good but hilarious how they finally get over Washington owning them without him)
Lol counting that heat game . When the reason we lost was that second half when there was no jokic.
Clown question bro
I thought he was joking til I saw comments about his post history
David Adelman really needs to be in COTY talks. Not only are they doing well without Jokic, but Cam Johnson, Christian Braun, and Jonas Valanchewondznuts are still out.
And Aaron Gordon missed significant time. They’ve even won when Murray was rested. They have literally been the Hospital Nuggets this season.
He is getting so much great play out of the deep bench whereas Malone was on a mission to destroy their development and confidence. Peyton Watson looks like a legitimate future borderline all star two-way player. Jalen Pickett is playing awesome. Even Zeke Nnaji has looked great (best contract in the league fyi, open to offers)!
The Nuggets are a really great team. But Coach David Adelman has really, really made it happen this year.
Malone firing looking extremely clairvoyant with how good Adelman is. Basically gave them first dibs on him as HC.
You are also counting the game where he got hurt then they lost. He was winning that game before the injury.
So the actual record should be 22-9 and 7-4
It was tied actually it shouldn’t be counted in either category. And we just beat the Thunder so we had a chance!
Bro’s obsessed with Jokic.
Just give Jamal MVP
Everyone assumes this post is meant to be sarcastic, but check this dudes history. Bro is dead serious.
Those 7 wins were against: TOR, PHI, BOS, MIL, NOP, DAL, WAS
Loses were against: CLE, BKN, ATL
bruh
Look at the net rating with jokic vs without though, pretty sure we still have negative net rating during this 10 games.
It’s time OP got some professional help, like Jokić got this year.
Trade em
No, Jokic’s impact is not exaggerated — but the Nuggets are genuinely stacked.
Jamal Murray is INSANE this year. Aaron Gordon and Payton Watson man…
Jokic, Murray, and Gordon have all had 50 point games this season.
Watson has had TWO 30 points games since Jokic got hurt.
Hardaway just had a 30 point game.
Bruce, Cam, Braun, and Val are all great role players too. The Nuggets are really stacked.
Their 7th option has been playing like an all nba player for the last couple of weeks. Stacked is an understatement.
Jokic legit has so many professional haters. Racist as hell at times too.
And the best thing about it is that Jokic is so absurdly good that they always end up looking extra stupid.
If only we could play most of our games against the East we would have a chance at the Warriors record!
trade jokic
Its David Adelman and Nuggets depth. THere not blowing anyone out. THey just put in max effort and closeout the games well.
Right now, Calvin Booth is texting Michael Malone and talking so much shit.
Yes his impact is definitely exaggerated. Obviously, they are better with him. But people see the on off numbers and advanced stats and don’t put any context behind them. This team has incredible depth and another all star in Jamal Murray.
His impact is clear from the stats but the team is stacked too. Think about it like this denver is easily the favorite to win title if healthy but are not serious contenders without jokic
I think we have different definitions of what “easily the favorite” means.
I’ve heard enough. Trade him for CJ Mccollum and Corey Kispert
Trade him!! I have a busted ass AD and Max Christie for sale
He was holding them back smh
Trade the fatass away
Take away all his MVPs. They were driven by false narrative.
Jokic for AD trade incoming
Trade him lol , jokes aside they played like 10 straight vs the worst east teams + Boston.
No jokic, Val or cam the whole time with a couple without Gordon and Murray also.
I’m surprised how good they had held up the depth they added + trust from new coach has been a game changer for the Nuggets. At the same time scheduling couldn’t have been better for them
TrAdE hIm FoR AD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take his MVPs away, fraud
They have a great supporting cast Murray,tim and watson.Gordon has the odd 20 piece in him here and there , definitely one of the more stacked rosters in the league even without joker
Murray MVP campaign starts now
Hmmmmm
Is this your league MVP???
Finally Jokic can come to Boston.
Trade that fat bum to the Pelicans
Ship that bum jokic to the warriors for JK.
Trade Jokic away. For their troubles take one KAT and a couple 2nds.
Needs to give back those MVPs.
carried by a superteam
We not doing this.
Classic Ewing Theory
jok is about to have a courtside lazyboy.
I knew he was the problem
thank you for the source
Jokic has no help
Who do the nuggets think they are? The spurs?
Dang that’s crazy
Jokic to the Magic since the Nugz are so good without him
Ewing theory
The Ewing Theory suggests that a team plays better for a short time immediately after its star player leaves (due to trade, injury, etc.), exceeding low expectations because the burden of carrying the team is lifted, forcing others to step up and improving overall balance, famously seen with Patrick Ewing’s Knicks performing well when he was out, and applied to other sports like Peyton Manning’s Tennessee Volunteers winning a championship after he left. This however is not sustainable and the team will be win less in the long run.
Who cares! Lol
You know what that means
Collin Sexton and Josh Green for Jokic. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
Guess he’s not that valuable after all.
So can ppl please stop with saying he’s the mvp this season. The mvp is Jaylen Brown