[Highlight] Eric Collins on Luka Doncic: “This guy is a whiner.”
That’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard Eric Collins say about anyone lmao
Now that you mention it I think you’re right, I’ve never heard him actually point out a negative aspect in any player. Always fairly positive and extremely entertaining
He actually does love to talk shit but it’s usually covered by stats he’s rattling off. He was legit hilarious the panthers/dolphins game he called this season, fired from the hip the whole game
I think I remember him trolling Harden for getting a quadruple double with turnovers but it wasn’t anything like the tone conveyed here.
a DUBIOUS quadruple double!
That’s the one! lol I knew that was him
LMAO that was an all time call, it was said in jest but he also hates harden so there was some venom there lol
You got me curious, so I went and found the video for anyone that’s never seen it like me.
I hadn’t seen it, that’s hilarious
Harden’s comedic timing is truly impeccable 💀
GOD I want to hear him do more football. Every time he has it has been 10⁄10
Hell no, I want him with the Hornets forever so the more he does the nfl the more likely they are to pay him big to leave for them.
He’s said it himself, he wants to call the lions share of our games forever. He believes that being a local guy is the peak of being an announcer, watching them grow over the years. He deserves winning hornets basketball
Collins and the Bulls’ announcers, too. We both deserve better than 10th seed basketball.
DOWDLE!!!
He actually does so many times (and sometimes mocks opponent players).
I always thought he did that in a more joking sort of way, this just seemed like a straight up statement and as serious as I’ve ever heard him speak.
It’s like hearing your dad cry, just a weird moment
I mean Luka is pretty much in a tier of his own in terms of whining lol
He gets 12 FTs a game and throws a toddler-style temper tantrum because he doesn’t get 20
People can hate on Harden or SGA or Butler but Luka is basically one-of-a-kind in how he has one of the best whistles in the league but screams and yells like he has one of the worst
toddler-style temper tantrum
https://streamable.com/cxu95i
The ref is giving him the ass spanking motion.
It’s such a blatant foul too like bro is delusional.
No joke, all this hate for Luka lately but I don’t think the whining has been hated on enough. Dude is a HOF level whiner. And the thing I really don’t get is how he gets away with SO much more without getting a tech. I’ve seen this dude scream F bombs in the refs face more times than I can remember and they never T him up. It’s crazy to me because Ant will get T’d up if he so much as uses bad grammar around the ref.
(And yes I know Ant whines to the refs too, I hate it and I wish he didn’t do it so much)
Edit: I remembered I saw him do it again a couple days ago and found the video. After he fouls out he’s screaming at the ref 😂 https://youtu.be/3aiRB-dPgK0?si=FeCRY4OLIfAJBEbK
Whining is just another facet to the flopping foul addicted nba. Its not uncommon to see players crying after every play. Its very off putting to see as a fan.
The Josh Allen of the NBA if you will
What? Luka is 100x worse. The refs give him leeway and still finds a way to be the victim.
But when it’s about Harden I heard it’s about HOW he gets them and not the amount. Luka does it in a more high IQ and classy way
Specifically a 2nd Grade class, I assume.
High IQ… Real classy. The kind of guy you’d like to date your sister.
He honestly deserved to get two techs a lot and thrown out today and I say this as a lakers fan. It was unbearable and I felt bad for refs even tho I disliked some calld
he definitely hates trae too
And harden. He can’t stand guys that foul bait and complain to the refs
Yeah but lets be honest there
Fuck Trae Young
He only spits facts
Naa fr never heard him bad mouth a player lol
Luka was complaining enough there that it was obvious he was getting a tech.
Straight up too lol. Dude’s honest and hyped
Jordan clarkson just came on my lap?
he also has some beef with how skinny chet holmgren is, it’s made me giggle
Tbh if I was a Lakers fan, it would be exhausting to watch him argue with refs, interacting with the opponent bench, or fans every night. This guy cannot just completely shut it off and focus on the game more than 2 minutes.
As a Warriors fan, I feel the same way about watching Draymond Green
Draymond is exponentially more insufferable than Luka
Id argue its worse to watch the hyper talented player bitch than it is the guy who’s never been THE GUY on his team.
Draymond is an asshole yes but the way Luka cries is just even more irritating considering he gets every whistle and still manages to butch about something.
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Draymond stomping on someone’s chest and Luka complaining to refs are such different conversations
Right, the fuck am I reading right now?
The Warriors aren’t victims when it comes to Draymond’s antics. The rest of the league is
Luka is more annoying when you watch a neutral game, Draymond is more annoying when he’s against your team because you’re scared he’s going to injure your best player
not really. It’s worse with Luka because the ball is in hands so much
be fr rn, that guy goes around assaulting people
My least favorite player ever, modern day Bill Laimbeer.
I respect what he brought to the Warriors as a team defender but god damn would you SHUT UP sometimes.
Laimbeer wasnt soft and whiney like draymond
And Laimbeer could actually ball too, in addition to being a tough guy on the court.
I mean, Dray career FG% is .449%, Laimbeer at .498%
Dray career 109 offensive rating, Laimbeer at 115
Dray at 104 defensive rating, Laimbeer at 104
Dray at .120 win share per 48 mins, Laimbeer at .149
Get this, Laimbeer career .326% from 3, which sucks, but it’s better than Dray’s .321% from 3 pt range.
Laimbeer was much better from the foul line too, .837% to just .709% for Dray.
Laimbeer has more career defensive win shares than Dray too.
Laimbeer was an ass, a tough guy, bitched too much etc. but he actually could ball.
And did he ever grab boards too. Laimbeer grabbed 11.0 boards per 36 mins of court time. Dray grabs 8.6 boards per 36 mins of court time.
Nice cherry picked stats lmao
Nah draymond is def the better player goofy dumbass lmao don’t let the hate and completely out of context stats that really don’t say anything cloud your judgement…
You can hate on dray for his personality but you know damn well his impact /= his stats
Wtf?
Did you just start watching Luka?
Or have you never watched a season of Dray?
Luka is worse whining wise
Draymond actually gets thrown out - Luka will never get the second tech and thrown out - despite that he is same or higher then Dray on techs . Draymond plays a very physical aggressive style of defense where I think setting the tone etc makes more sense for his archetype to complain- luka meanwhile should be thrown out but isn’t due to status and it’s hard to stomach
I am a lakers fan, and it is indeed, exhausting watching him whine after every PLAY. Every single. Play.
As a Kings fan, I felt the same about Demarcus Cousins… there’s a reason they called him an emotional lesbian.
Yeah, it’s much easier to hide the shit defense on a player like Luka than your starting center.
Bro. This comment made me fart I chuckled so hard
Kings fan here, he is basically an elevated/better guard version of Demarcus Cousins.
Crazy talent, whiny, overweight, lazy on defense
This is their identity though. The refs give the Lakers the golden whistle where any amount of adversity causes these players to cry. Look at LeBron and even the coach Reddick. The first 20 games in the season when Reaves was getting “hot”, half his points came from the line. Also look at Luka’s fts too. If Bron, Luka or Reaves do not get half their points from fts, they are most likely not winning the game.
As Dallas fan, i can confirm
This sht is embarassing
He’s been doing this for so long, who knows if he’ll ever change
I remember a few years back he said before the season that he matured and wouldn’t go after refs anymore because it meant he was slow to get back on D and it set a bad example for teammates.
I think that phase lasted 2 weeks
Been a lakers fan for 30 years and this is the first time i don’t care if they win or lose. Watching Luka play is not fun. His defense is other worldly bad
His heliocentric offense is not a great watch, and overstates his offensive impact by just pumping up his volume stats. Thinking Basketball did the math and showed Luka only improves his teammates’ true shooting by 3.5%, while Kobe, who had an incredibly underrated off-ball game, was at 5%. Luka stans are also just incredibly annoying and frankly do not care about the Lakers being successful
You just checked every box for me. 100% accurate here
I mean, Kobe turned Smush into a half-decent player, and when Smush went to Heat, he became ultra trash, even with, you know, Wade there. So yeah, Kobe had that impact.
Correct. This is a great Rusty Buckets video on him.
https://youtu.be/hWmMFpxdCfY?si=umpmy02bTu_vw3at
would love a link/source for that. In kobe’s all nba seasons (excluding 1999-00) the lakers had a +2.8% increase in ts% when he was on the floor. While for Luka’s all nba season the mavs had a +2.8% increase in ts%. Its hard to find data on the 2024-25 season since luka split time between 2 teams, but this season the lakers experience +4.4% increase in ts% when luka is on the floor. Obviously the data i linked in the team in general and doesn’t focus on luka/kobe’s effect on just their teammates but it illustrates that luka/kobe have boosted their teams efficiency by the same amount.
Edit: probably should of just used efg% instead of ts%.
*2019-24 luka +2.9%
*2026 luka +5.4%
*2000-13 kobe +2.3%
Listen to the Greatest Peaks of the 21st Century series by Thinking Basketball. The stats I cited were from their episode on Wade and Giannis
Curious what those numbers would look like for players such as Jokic and Curry. I’ve been told that Luka “passed” Steph at some point, but my sincere homer opinion is that Curry is and always has been much more valuable on the court. I wonder what these stats have looked like for him in recent seasons, because he seems like the easiest guy in the world to play with. Anyone with a functional brain is going to get a lot of good looks.
Same here. Haven’t even watched a game in like a month.
Good for you man. I’m trending that direction as well. Giving up so many easy baskets game after game just gets boring and annoying
He is a terrible watch
why do u think he is that bad on defense?
Casual fans typically point to Luka’s blow by rate, but late 2000s Kobe was also famous for that as well yet was still a positive defender by being a cerebral defender who understood defensive scheme and was very vocal in communicating with his teammates to prevent breakdowns. Luka just doesn’t bring this sort of intensity and purpose on the defensive end
“but he is an offensive genius, he needs better teammates”
Honestly, this isn’t a good excuse, but having the worst bench give up leads the second you or Bron takes a second or has an off night has got to be demoralizing. I’ve watched every single minute of every game this season.
It’s just rough out there. And Luka has been rough to watch some games, too. And not just in his shooting slump games, but with the refs, too. It’s wild that Lebron has been the best all around player this month.
exhausting to watch him argue with refs? YES
interacting with the opponent bench, or fans every night? - No. Fans get more than what they pay for and you might get a FUCK YOU game from Luka if poked right.
He is who is that this point. If he didn’t realize he needs to change all of his bad habits this offseason when his old org and new coach basically bullied him to get into shape, then it’s never going to happen.
It’s never going to happen. And he is gonna be fat and injured next year.
Watching him do 5 pushups in front of Nico and get up with his face looking like a cherry tomato was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
Interacting with fans and bench: no. Refs? Absolutely. It’s after every play. I’ve been watching basketball for 25 plus years and I’ve never seen someone complain so much. Not even Rasheed Wallace
If his defense was just bad it’d be one thing, he’s basically their entire offense, but it’s the fact that he bitches at the refs over getting back on defense that makes it much worse
I’m a Luka fan and I’m tired of it. I liked watching him a lot in Dallas and he went too far at times with the ref whining, but he’s been on another level with it since the trade it’s so unfun to watch I’ve been skipping watching them play
I’m tired of it already.
Mavs fans have been saying this for years
“just go back to defense fatass”
I am more exhausted by Luka stans gaslighting anyone who tries to point out Luka’s faults. To them he is faultless. Laker fans love Luka, and celebrates his performance, but let’s call it when we see it, and we see a lot from him.
Yep. I cannot stand the guy, it’s unfortunate he is not going anywhere.
I really loved Luka when he came into the league. If the thunder weren’t playing, the Mavs would be near the top of my list of teams to throw on league pass. But as time has gone on it’s really just become more and more difficult to watch him play. I don’t really care when players argue a call, but it’s actually incessant with Luka. It’s damn near every single possession and it gets so bad at times that he opts to argue with officials instead of getting back on defense. It’s just an agonizing watch
It is exhausting. I remember in the World Cup against Italy I think, I went to watch the game and this dude was just having the biggest sook all game until he got ejected, in one of the elimination games and I said he’s just young he will mature, Then he did it all through the finals and I said the same. I’ll say it again though, he is still a young man but I can’t see his game maturing until he locks in to his mindset and stops acting like a brat. It just dictates half his game and he’s so talented he doesn’t need any of it
Luka makes Bron’s complaints look reasonable, and even Bron’s had possessions where he just doesn’t hustle back on D because he’s jawing at a ref for a missed call.
It feels like Luka’s been way worse at this since he moved from Dallas. Like, I know he’s always kinda been heavy on the complaining, but it feels so much worse with LA.
Lmao if he said that you know it’s true
Yeah not even up to debate really. I think everybody wishes Luka would just shut up and play ball instead of complaining about literally every single drive he makes.
Especially when he is already the leader in FTA per game and per 36 minutes.
He’s having one of the highest FTA/GP ever for a guard - 5th highest all time, 2nd highest since the 60s, highest since the 80s. The list for guards (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fta_per_g_season.html):
He’s not even driving that much, he’s as perimeter oriented as he’s ever been. He’s 8th-11th among NBA guards in drives per game (depending on who you consider a guard - it goes SGA, Jaylen Brown, Cade, Giddey, Booker, Kevin Porter Jr., Ja, Brunson, JDub, Harden, then Luka, source: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/drives?dir=D&sort=DRIVES).
I get why guys foul bait/flop, the league/refs reward it, the whole league is abusing it for good reason. But the amount he complains when he doesn’t get the call on his blatant foul baiting/flop attempts is crazy. He’s got the best whistle in the league this year but acts like he’s getting fucked over every play.
What makes you think it’s not cause and effect? He probably figures his whining is why he has such a good whistle.
It was easily the most frustrating thing about watching him play in Dallas. After 21 years of consummate professionalism from Dirk, watching Luka foulbait constantly and cry to the refs instead of getting back on defense got really old sometimes.
when I close my eyes and think of luka he is doing this exact pose. half the game is asking refs for fouls
where’s the lie lol
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Eric Collins knows ball
Watching this guy play, has made me really appreciate the guys who just put their heads down and get back to it when calls don’t go their way. Great player but the simple truth is he acts like a bitch.
SGA is a hoe with the foul baiting, but I love that he never whines and just gets back to basketball
You know its bad if Eric Collins says this lol
Correct. I have Luka on my fantasy squad and his numbers are incredible, but he whines/complains/bitches on every play. He even whines when he actually gets the whistle, which is just crazy.
That’s what I hate the most. Guys will get a call and then still complain about a call that was “missed” 3 plays ago. It’s like Luka wants to get a foul call every. single. play.
He’s literally the only NBA player I can think of who I have seen whining while shooting free throws it’s truly incredible stuff.
Guys like him and harden are just playing to the rules that exist (and the NBA should fix that) so I get it.
But that doesn’t mean I have to respect them. It’s genuinely painful watching guys like this play.
I despised Harden and his play style but he is not a whiner like Luka.
True even during his peak drawing fouls I don’t ever remember Harden going off on the refs. He’s lot more like SGA with his etiquette than Luka
Fan: Nobody wants to see a free throw shooting contest
Harden: Nobody wants to see fouls either
https://youtube.com/shorts/GIs-JeU2EZc
Luka needs a coach like Joe Mazzula. An absolute psychopath to just yell “PLAY BALL. SHUT THE FUCK UP.” from the sidelines in the same way he yelled at Tatum.
He had a mild version of that with Carlisle.
If Eric Collins calls you a whiner you must be one because he is usually respectful to all players lol
Lol imagine Eric saying a bad thing about you.
Free him and send him back to his rightful home.
I don’t think the Lakers will take backsies on this one.
Anthony Davis is quiet quitting as I speak
And Luka is just better, availability alone
Availability alone.
You make it sound like Davis is voluntarily getting hurt
Yup, he never whined to the refs on the Mavericks. This is totally out of character!
I remember back in 2019 I thought for sure this kid would win an MVP.
I don’t see it anymore.
They can’t all be great like Peyton Watson
He should’ve never signed that extension with LA
Acting like he isn’t playing poorly. 8 assist to 4 turnover, shooting splits all down and TS is only carried by his whistle
He had 39 on 57% with 1 turnover.
Ever since Luka came to the Lakers only his bad stats are brought up, good ones ignored
And if they don’t have enough bad stats they make up new shit
Well that’s called playing for the Lakers
it’s a lot harder to put up good stats when the only other person who can contribute on offense is LeBron. The Lakers roster is fucking destitute besides Luka, LeBron, and Reaves - and Reaves has been hurt for a long time.
The Lakers roster has been Lebron, AD/Luka, and Reeves for 2 years and have barely made any good roster additions
I mean I just don’t buy that since most of his offense is step back 3s at a bad percentage.
He just needs to stop shooting so many step back threes. It’s not a teammate thing. He’s that good
I wish he didn’t. Ive never seen someone play such consistent bad defense. He’s never gonna win anything
Found nicos burner
Crazy talk
he should never go back to the Mavs
he shouldnt pick up his player option in 1.5 years then
Maybe its a mis-type of winner and he just didnt fact check
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t calling him a winner considering the Lakers were down 13 at that point
I was saying whine-urns.
He’s either doing this stupid pose 🤷🏼♂️ or the stupid finger twirl telling his coach to challenge whatever (likely correct) call went against him. It’s so exhausting
OP on a roll collecting hate karma, the okc backcourt now this? Lmao
generational whiner
As a lakers fan, I can say… Luka is a little bitch. He’s damn good at basketball, but he’s a little bitch.
“Your own worst enemy” doesnt even do Luka justice. He has the worst mentality i’ve ever seen in sports.
Anyone who watched this game, saw him beefing with a nobody on the hornets while being super moody after Hornets took the lead. Story of his career.
Super whiny and shitty body language. He used to be my favorite player. Extremely talented in his younger years but wasted on a horrible mentality and today.. He is genuinely a lesser talent than he was. His body hasnt aged well. League has also gotten more talented. Dude is closer to Dame today than he is to Jokic.
I gave up on him ever growing up like 3-4 seasons ago. Rick Carlisle not getting to him was the clearest of signs. In fact there were rumors that Luka had a disdain for him. Which very likely grew from Luka having problems with Rick calling him out. Worst mentality in sports history.
A pro athlete (superstar) with that much money, resources, and coddling that STILL refuses to lose 20 lbs and return to the shape he was in 2018-2021 is a serious red flag. People can hate all they want, but Nico and the Mavs saw this and that’s why they traded him. Hell, Luka gets to be teammates with LeBron, arguably the most health-obsessed superstar we’ve ever seen in the NBA. You’d think some of that would rub off on him or that he’d take a hint, but nope.
Luka looked healthy and slimmer for a few weeks this summer and everyone thought he was back. He’s not. Wake me up when he actually looks like 2020 Luka.
Also, I remember when the anecdote came out that the Mavs had to remove unhealthy drinks from their practice facility because Luka would only drink like super sugary iced tea. People laughed but that’s just ridiculous.
His weight is a symptom of his poor mentality but i’d be cool with him at 500 pounds if he just stopped behaving like a moody brat on the court. He behaves like the absolute opposite of a winner. He becomes more moody in tough games. Another symptom of a loser.
Even though i gave up on him 4 seasons ago.. I can’t lie. I thought getting traded to LA would maybe force him to grow up. Acting like a brat under the brightest of lights? Surely he won’t keep humiliating himself. First couple of weeks.. Basically no whining. Things looked good.
But he got comfortable after those weeks and the shitty brat came and has only grew. He has already matched his peak brat levels in Dallas. He’s the biggest joke in basketball and he has absolute no intention of changing that.
Been saying that he’s on a Ronaldinho/Rooney/Fabregas career trajectory. Went pro young, burnt out young, declined young. On the one hand, I respect the effort he put forth for Slovenia in some of the international tournaments. On the other hand, dude never took a break. Add in suspect conditioning habits and it’s not looking like a recipe for longevity.
You’ll get people trying to curve fit his career over MJ/LeBron/Curry because he did X, Y, Z at a certain age. He was undeniably a phenomenon in his early years, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to age like an MJ or a Steph. He is visibly less athletic than he was in his early seasons. You couldn’t really say that about LeBron or Steph at 27.
100% agreed and great comparisons. He should be hitting his physical prime right now (I miss my late 20’s) but he’s slowing down and moves like he’s 54 years old
Yeah Rick is the type of coach that players love because he holds everyone responsible and notices the hard work players out in their game. So to beef with Rick really paints a picture.
I used to really enjoy watching him too, then he got sooooo whiny. When I saw him getting into it with a second round Hornets rookie I just thought back to him getting into it with Dennis Schroder. He’s so talented, he should be above all of this. I haven’t really watched him all that often lately, but man I don’t want to say he’s become unlikable but he seems a lot harder to love now than he was even a couple years ago
Spot on
I am sick of all the whining to the refs in every sport. You ain’t up for an Oscar, not even a Golden Globe, so shut up and get back in your spot. Put everything these dudes say to the refs on the arena PA system and the broadcast feed, let everyone hear what these dudes sound like when they are begging for a favor.
Soccer mentality is infecting the NBA.
Him playing Overwatch explains a lot.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard this man be THIS negative about a player lol, he’s either amped for the Hornets or heartbroken by a loss in the clutch.
Baring the step back 3s does Luka every try to get the ball in the hoop instead of getting the foul call? Every time he is inside the 3pt line is he picking his dribble up 10ft away from the basket and taking a floater so he can get the foul call and when he doesn’t get it he cries to the refs, There must be at least 20 times per game that he puts his arms up at the refs because he doesn’t like a call.
It’s 100% true. He is and it’s getting worse and worse and the guy is hitting 30 lmao.
If you guys ever wanna hear a broadcaster who fucking hates Luka Doncic then listen to Alan Horton sometime
Does he have a brother named Tim?
If he put half the effort he puts into whinging about calls into defense then he’d be the best player in the league.
He’s actually worse if you’re at the game and see how much more he complains off camera. He really is just complaining non stop every single play.
With this attitude and play style he will win exactly 0 rings.
Fair statement tbh.
this post will be referred back to when laker fans mention the luka doncic hate “circlejerk” on r/nba in about a weeks time
or whenever the lakers play well
Facts
Lukais mentally cooked and i can’t see him winning anything significant. No MVP, no rings unless he’s at the end of the bench, and certainly no defense awards
That’s gonna be Luka’s logo.
Nothing new. It just gets amplified because he’s playing for the Lakers.
You would think Luka would wanna stop whining since he’s bad at free throws anw
Ball knower
Eric Collins rules. Loved that video celebrating his career and the story of how his daughter helps (helped) him make his game call sheets. Good dude.
Same thing he did in Dallas, nothing about his behavior has changed…
Love Luka, but yes, he is a whiner
Eric Collins isn’t usually that rude.lol.
Luka stans all over again
Absolutely hate watching that guy whining constantly on the court.
You know what, Luka needs therapy lol. As great as he is now, he will have more focus if he at least minimize that complaining. Every time he bitches to the ref (Lebron too to some extent), you can also see and feel that it’s affecting the morale of the whole team in real time.
They should hire somebody full time, perhaps another special assistant coach, that will bitch to the ref and to whomever instead of Luka. That will be his only job.
Drops 42 against Sacramento they Lose, drops 39 against the Hornets, they lose lol
He is a whiner. All he does is whinge and sook every fucking play.
The perfect Laker
As a former Dallas fan, at least we don’t have to watch this every night anymore.
I mean its true though. This shit gets annoying fast
He is and I can hear the tech being called right now on Jayson Tatum for chuckling at this video. Ask me why I can’t fucking stand Luka.
Nico tried to warn us.
Well he’s not wrong
Lmaooo
Luka and Caitlin Clark are two players I loved watching and it was a joy witnessing their rise, unfortunately both also became incessant whiners.
I still root for both players, but I don’t quite enjoy watching them as much anymore. Seriously I already have to watch Draymond Green, I cant handle any more tantrums.
Spot on. Now someone post the play at the start when Kon got fouled four times on one drive, and didn’t complain.
That’s LeBron’s move!
Ain’t he not wrong