105 - 108

Box Scores: NBA - Yahoo

GAME SUMMARY

Location: Little Caesars Arena

Officials: JB DeRosa, Leon Wood, and Brent Barnaky

Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
Phoenix Suns	32	31	27	15	105
Detroit Pistons	23	33	33	19	108

TEAM STATS

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
Phoenix Suns	105	36-87	41.4%	17-46	37.0%	16-25	64.0%	9	55	21	25	14	13	9
Detroit Pistons	108	38-81	46.9%	9-32	28.1%	23-37	62.2%	14	64	25	15	10	17	7

PLAYER STATS


Phoenix Suns	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Royce O’Neale^SF	29:12	11	4-11	3-8	0-2	1	6	7	7	0	0	2	0	-9
Dillon Brooks^PF	28:29	16	4-16	2-6	6-7	0	1	1	1	0	0	2	6	-15
Mark Williams^C	22:24	5	2-4	0-0	1-2	2	4	6	2	1	4	1	3	-9
Grayson Allen^SG	30:34	33	11-25	7-20	4-4	1	4	5	0	0	3	2	4	-10
Collin Gillespie^PG	36:19	18	6-10	4-6	2-3	0	2	2	6	2	0	3	3	0
Jordan Goodwin	31:33	7	3-8	0-2	1-2	2	10	12	3	3	1	1	5	12
Ryan Dunn	19:22	5	2-4	1-3	0-0	1	2	3	1	0	0	1	1	2
Oso Ighodaro	25:37	10	4-8	0-0	2-5	1	2	3	0	6	1	0	3	6
Isaiah Livers	13:49	0	0-1	0-1	0-0	1	1	2	1	2	0	1	0	10
Rasheer Fleming	02:39	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	-2
Nigel Hayes-Davis	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Khaman Maluach	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nick Richards	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Devin Booker	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jamaree Bouyea	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Koby Brea	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jalen Green	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Detroit Pistons	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Ausar Thompson^SF	19:06	5	2-6	0-1	1-2	4	2	6	2	0	0	0	4	1
Tobias Harris^PF	28:30	16	6-11	0-2	4-4	2	5	7	2	5	0	0	0	22
Jalen Duren^C	28:24	16	8-13	0-0	0-1	4	14	18	2	0	2	1	1	21
Duncan Robinson^SG	27:00	19	7-12	4-7	1-3	1	0	1	0	0	1	0	2	12
Cade Cunningham^PG	38:27	10	3-16	0-7	4-9	0	4	4	11	0	1	5	0	9
Isaiah Stewart	22:02	4	0-2	0-2	4-4	1	3	4	0	0	2	2	2	-23
Ronald Holland II	21:23	11	3-6	0-2	5-9	0	9	9	1	1	0	5	3	-14
Jaden Ivey	16:57	15	6-8	3-5	0-0	1	1	2	1	0	0	2	0	-4
Caris LeVert	15:55	2	1-1	0-0	0-0	1	2	3	3	2	0	2	1	-8
Javonte Green	16:02	5	1-5	1-5	2-3	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1	-8
Daniss Jenkins	06:11	5	1-1	1-1	2-2	0	0	0	3	1	1	0	1	7
Wendell Moore Jr.	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Marcus Sasser	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Isaac Jones	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bobi Klintman	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Chaz Lanier	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Paul Reed	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tolu Smith	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Barnyard_Rich | Pistons

167 | 10 hours ago

The biggest takeaway from this game is the Suns played their asses off and pushed the #1 seed in the East to the brink without Devin Booker.

I get why this team is causing a problem in the West

ifuckwithit | Spurs

41 | 10 hours ago

Yeah until we see otherwise in our next matchups with PHX, I would like to avoid them in the playoffs lol

Odoaiden | Timberwolves

-7 | 10 hours ago

I don’t know I think anybody would still rather see the Suns than Rockets Wolves Spurs Nuggets Rockets and even the Lakers

Strict-Amoeba1791 | Suns

27 | 10 hours ago

Can’t sleep on a scrappy defensive team that’ll be allowed to be MORE physical in the playoffs.

shaad20 | Suns

12 | 10 hours ago

The counter is that the suns are try harding the regular season because they have to, in the playoffs (and typically the month leading into them) everyone will be playing harder

Obviously we’re hoping that can be a super power for us though in the same way it was for the pacers

Expensive-Caramel537

5 | 9 hours ago

Well you can say “you merely adopted the try harding. I was born in it, molded by it”.

Odoaiden | Timberwolves

-9 | 10 hours ago

Ya but just as big is that is the link to star players and playoff success look at the 2 seed rockets last year stars are needed for playoff games and Book is good but he’s not on the tier of these other first options

shaad20 | Suns

9 | 9 hours ago

Yeah we’ll see lol. I’m not expecting a deep run this year by any means, but it has nothing to do with the guy I’ve seen be the first option on a finals team and string together other memorable playoff series.

TheVision_13 | Suns

4 | 7 hours ago

How quickly these people forget lmao

Sikkly290 | Suns

4 | 9 hours ago

Green is really going to dictate how far we can go in the playoffs. If he can be even just a tad bit more reliable as a #2 for the Suns than he was as the go to for the Rockets then we are a team people will not want to face. If he is the same as he was for the Rockets then we aren’t an easy out but the top of the west will beat us in 6.

And hey, in a world where Green figures it out properly we are a fucking terrifying team. Extremely low odds of that happening but its still possible haha.

Apprehensive-Use-981 | Suns

2 | 5 hours ago

Nonsense. We had KD for years and didn’t go anywhere in the playoffs. Not saying this team is gonna make a deep run, but I think we’re actually trying to build a cohesive roster for once instead of chasing star talent.

llamagish | Suns

10 | 9 hours ago

The fuckin Lakers???

AroundNdowN | Pistons

16 | 10 hours ago

Sure but Cade didn’t play either. Though he was technically on the floor.

Hovi_Bryant | Pistons

8 | 10 hours ago

This. That rematch is going to be a game.

Pristine_Purpose_230

4 | 10 hours ago

They feel like Pistons West, but with worse centers and better shooters.

PhoenixBloodline

2 | 9 hours ago

Don’t forget that Jalen Green has played all of 5 quarters this season.

sloBrodanChillosevic | Supersonics

117 | 10 hours ago

Suns: take and miss an ugly three in crunch time, give up rebound that seemingly ices the game

Pistons: out of the goodness of my heart, I will miss two free throws to keep you around. Magnanimous, I know.

No-Rise2743 | Suns

51 | 10 hours ago

No green and Booker just to go down in the clutch again two agonising losses man

FutureGrassToucher | Suns

14 | 10 hours ago

Hope they both come back saturday

Bard_Wannabe_ | Pistons

3 | 7 hours ago

So Green’s close to returning? I’d be really curious how he fits onto this new Suns team.

FutureGrassToucher | Suns

4 | 7 hours ago

Rumor is both booker and green will be back vs knicks on saturday but ott is gonna see how they look pregame.

Bard_Wannabe_ | Pistons

53 | 10 hours ago

Tobias Harris +22 in an extremely close game (and he looked like it). Hopefully the Detroit fanbase stops taking him for granted. Major game from Duren too.

nugentismycenter | Pistons

22 | 10 hours ago

5 steals for Tobi tonight.

SomeAntha90 | Pistons

17 | 10 hours ago

I never want to see tobias traded idc he’s always been a baller and the dude loves Detroit

Relo_bate

1 | 5 hours ago

It’s just you can trade him for a better player and get him back on a minimum next season

PistonWingedLion | Pistons

48 | 10 hours ago

This is one of the worst Pistons games I have ever watched.

They somehow survived Cade disasterclass and horrible FT shooting. They have to improve their FT shooting, they simply can’t make them during clutch moments

Teeshirtandshortsguy | Pistons

16 | 10 hours ago

Pistons bringing back the 00s mentality.

We were lucky to escape with a win here. If they had Booker, we probably lose.

CheapTale9824 | Pistons

17 | 9 hours ago

I disagree. If the pistons had booker they win this game by even more

Low-Conflict9366

3 | 10 hours ago

Was it Cade/Pistons having an off night or the Suns defense that made it look like an off night?

PistonWingedLion | Pistons

17 | 10 hours ago

Cade has been dealing with wrist injury and it looked like he has been struggling with his shot all night. But I also have to give credit to this Suns team, they are playing some solid defense this year.

Jukyla

1 | 8 hours ago

Look at cade’s FT percentage today.

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

33 | 10 hours ago

Diabolical, nasty basketball all around

buttsoup_barnes | DET

35 | 10 hours ago

Good thing we have great defense because this team’s offense sucked balls today. Even the free throws, which were already horrendous, found another layer of hell. JB you better lock these players in the gym tonight and don’t open it until all of them hit 80% from the line. Also nice from Cade to show solidarity with Booker to also not suit up for this game.

shaad20 | Suns

28 | 10 hours ago

Pistons FO needs to be on the phone with the league office every day trying to find a way to get Beasley cleared

Was actually kinda hilarious watch Stew (lightly) push a suns player after every single play in the first half. Really just wondering how long that could go on, but all the Ts and flagrant put an end to all the after the play stuff.

Grayson on a heater is still one of the funnest guys to watch. Dillon with no Book this season is still a very frustrating watch, I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say every suns run tonight started the moment he sat down.

Oso and Goody were lockin shit up

Feels like Ott hasn’t quite gotten to the point where he recognizes when to get on the officials for his guys, even if it means getting a T. No foul calls on the pistons until 1:51 left in 4th is hard to reconcile. Being in or near the bonus like the pistons were the majority of that quarter would’ve made a big difference.

Another fun spider man meme game though even if we lost. Both these teams want to beat you up and it makes it very fun to watch two teams go at it like this. And I’d still argue that the refs were really good tonight keeping that in mind, they let them play for the most part and then got the game under control before someone got killed without really changing how they were calling the game. Long second quarter but the rest breezed by.

EightFortyDaysOf

5 | 10 hours ago

I don’t understand why Beasley isn’t back in the league yet if he’s been cleared by the fbi?? Even if he comes back at 60% of his level last year that’s a valuable addition on so many teams

shaad20 | Suns

2 | 10 hours ago

I mean I get it, especially as someone that has picked up the degenerate sports gambling bug. But I’d still be doing everything I could to get him cleared if I was Gores

Sarkin | Pistons

25 | 10 hours ago

CADE SHOT 19%, MISSED MOST OF HIS FREE THROWS, AND BRICKED EVERY THREE.

AND THAT SHIT DIDN’T MATTER AT ALL.

YKTPWA

heat_fan_ | Raptors

17 | 10 hours ago

Jalen Duren had a monster game

Rough shooting night for Cade still got a double double

sloBrodanChillosevic | Supersonics

13 | 10 hours ago

That block he had on Ighodaro in transition with like 2 minutes left should have ended the game but the Pistons missed 8 fucking free throws after that. Holy cow. Missed 8 FTA in the final 2:15 and won the game.

Edit: wrote dunk instead of block for some reason. Also had to spellcheck Ighodaro

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

8 | 10 hours ago

If you don’t like that you don’t like Pistons basketball

nugentismycenter | Pistons

14 | 10 hours ago

Cade just played the worst game I ever seen a star player play besides Reggie Millers 1-16 game 1 vs. the Lakers in the 2000 Finals

DavramLocke | Pistons

13 | 10 hours ago

I was shocked the entire game. I just kept thinking, he will turn this around. Nah.

TeamRAF19

3 | 10 hours ago

He has a wrist injury.

nugentismycenter | Pistons

9 | 10 hours ago

I’m well aware, he should have sat out. Hope he rests vs. Indy.

TeamRAF19

2 | 9 hours ago

I thought people like that old school mentality of players toughing out injuries to try to help us win as many games as possible? He contributed to winning this game despite the bad individual numbers.

Lmao1903 | NBA

2 | 5 hours ago

For some reason no one cares about guys playing through injuries in the NBA, its weird, its like fans lack the ability to do some critical thinking. JDub and Lebron came back from big injuries and they were clowned this season for not immediately being great, MPJ last playoffs was clearly playing with something he shouldn’t even play with, still clowned, Luka in 24 playoffs was hobbling and bleeding the entire playoffs yet no one cared and he has been injured this season quite a bit as well including the Detroit game I think, Celtics had some guys like that last playoffs.

But I feel like in football (soccer), fans actually understand like ok the guy is clearly injured, lets give them some time and not make big statements

Desertsprinter | Raptors

14 | 10 hours ago

Horrific free throw shooting this game

According_One811 | Suns

14 | 10 hours ago

Having him or Green certainly would’ve helped. Or even if Brooks wasn’t ⁴⁄₁₆. These super winnable games are starting to make me mad

kingofnick | Suns

17 | 10 hours ago

Lmao chill buddy, that’s basketball.

Suns had a very lucky win earlier this season against Minnesota. We got a Steph Curry type performance from Jordan Goodwin to beat OKC.

As much as we’ve lost very winnable games, we’ve also had some very improbable victories.

EightFortyDaysOf

10 | 10 hours ago

No matter what though, it must be like the sun is shining in Phoenix again. The improvement in the fight the team shows from last year to this is just amazing. Idk how someone can still complain lol bc they’re exceeding expectations by so much rn

kingofnick | Suns

3 | 10 hours ago

Oh for sure.

My expectations are still very much the same as they were at the beginning of the season, which is that if they can be a competitive team that plays with heart, I’ll be happy. I’d probably be disappointed with a play in exit, but if they make the playoffs and get booted in the first round, I’d still consider it a massive success.

There are many Suns fans whose expectations have shifted dramatically, hence why there’s quite a vocal portion of the Reddit fan base who act like the world is ending when ever the team loses.

BigBabyBurrito | Suns

1 | 9 hours ago

I feel the exact same way, I thought we’d either squeak into the play-in or just miss it before the season started, so this is all sunshine and roses by comparison.

DrPupupipi | Suns

4 | 9 hours ago

Great perspective here my man

According_One811 | Suns

-1 | 10 hours ago

Doesn’t really change my point. Still gotta win these type of games

Barnyard_Rich | Pistons

5 | 10 hours ago

gotta win these type of games

In the playoffs.

It’s a long season. These losses happen.

Organic-City-6947 | Lakers

-4 | 10 hours ago

The weight of expectations starting to creep in.

Exotic_Pension_9993 | Suns

9 | 10 hours ago

the weight of missing your best 2 scorers against a really really really good defense lol

sanitycheck2001

12 | 10 hours ago

Worst game Cade has played in like 2 years

Dude doesn’t do well off of long breaks

AshamedTechnology262

1 | 8 hours ago

He actually did though this year , I think it was after the nba cup break

DavramLocke | Pistons

8 | 10 hours ago

My boy, what happened to my boy. He could not put the ball in that basket for anything. RIP Cade (until next game).

Available_Finger_513

10 | 10 hours ago

Did they accidently paint the free throw line 3 inches too far back?

Ive never seen so many completely bricked free throws from normally good free throw shooters.

kingofnick | Suns

9 | 10 hours ago

Second quarter took almost an hour of real time. Tough watch.

EightFortyDaysOf

5 | 10 hours ago

And the last 30 seconds felt like 20 minutes lol

blueclown562000 | Suns

8 | 10 hours ago

We tried our best 😔

vJoeyyyyy | DET

7 | 10 hours ago

A playoff series between these teams would be mental, too bad

BigBabyBurrito | Suns

3 | 9 hours ago

see you in the finals, babyyyyy

_19911118 | Raptors

6 | 9 hours ago

Booker better be an all star

EightFortyDaysOf

5 | 10 hours ago

Despite the pistons very best efforts to donate the game from the charity stripe, they manage to pull off a win! The spirit of the pacers in the playoffs last year lives in the suns though, the dawgiest of dawgs

Chandler_Bings | Pistons

5 | 10 hours ago

Yuck. Cade what was that?

YKTPWA

DeanwinchesterI979 | Pistons

5 | 10 hours ago

Glad everyone else stepped up.

Cades gotta still be injured. I seen him with the brace on his right hand.

Bard_Wannabe_ | Pistons

5 | 10 hours ago

Very creative officiating in the second quarter. Even the referees knew they messed up, and gave the Pistons a relaxed whistle in the second half.

IloveOnePiece119205

2 | 10 hours ago

Ugly win, but the Pistons Won Again!

bigquad35

2 | 10 hours ago

Very ugly game. My goodness, Dillon Brooks…

Renegadeforever2024 | Raptors

2 | 10 hours ago

win is a win

rusty512 | Pistons

2 | 10 hours ago

Said it on the Pistons sub but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a good team win so many games while looking absolutely horrific. I think a lot of it comes down to the opponents just not matching the Pistons intensity which will likely be different come playoff time.

Motor-Platform-200

4 | 10 hours ago

you’re probably not old enough to have watched the going to work pistons then lol. we would win games with scores of like 70-60.

VolumeValuable3537 | Suns

4 | 10 hours ago

I’d say the suns definitely matched or even outmatched their intensity but their offense was putrid in the second half and got too aggressive on defense.

Low_Income4405 | Knicks

1 | 10 hours ago

Yuck

Kinarkun | Pistons

1 | 8 hours ago

YKTPWA

Minimum_Anxiety_3000 | Australia

1 | 5 hours ago

The Suns are dawgs.

BWSmith777 | Hawks

0 | 10 hours ago

Three pointers have ruined basketball. More than half of the Suns attempted shots were threes. They shot 14 more threes than Detroit did and lost by 3. If half of those missed threes were from close range, they would have won. As usual, the team with more 3PAs lost. A three pointer is a lottery ticket. You aren’t going to hit it most of the time, and then you cost yourself more points trying to chase it. I blame the three point line for lack of strategy in the NBA. Teams don’t run plays or have offensive concepts anymore. It’s just sprint down the court and heave the ball at the basket as quickly as possible. They don’t even need a shot clock anymore, because none of these players would dare use a second more than necessary to get a shot off.

magic_spam

7 | 10 hours ago

When you’re out your two best players against the best team in the east you gotta tip the scales somewhere. Suns decided to live and die by the three

VolumeValuable3537 | Suns

3 | 10 hours ago

Many suns players can only shoot 3’s cause when you think about it it’s a team full of misfits. Unwanted players traded away, waived players, g-league players.

Apprehensive-Use-981 | Suns

1 | 5 hours ago

I wouldn’t use this game as an example of “3s ruined the game.” Suns were shorthanded and have a roster full of above-average 3pt shooters (Royce O’Neal, Grayson Allen, Collin Gillespie) and respectable shooters (Jordan Goodwin & Dillon Brooks). It’s a strength and you gotta play to your strengths.

dudewithchronicpain | Pistons

-11 | 10 hours ago

Brooks is dirty and sucks at ball

DavramLocke | Pistons

-7 | 10 hours ago

He fucking sucks. I’m not sure I’ve disliked a modern player more than him.

The Detroit Pistons (29-10) defeat the Phoenix Suns (24-17), 108-105, despite trying their very best to lose in Devin Booker’s absence