[Highlight] Julius Randle puts the clamps on Wemby and makes him sit down out of bounds for the turnover
Smart of Norri to put Randle on him, his physicality has wore Wemby out quite a bit.
Julius is vulnerable to guys who are too quick for him but Wemby can’t blow by him
Yeah he really shouldn’t have to, its easier for smalls to slide with him. He should be spinning on guys like Shaq used to but that will (hopefully) come in time when he gets stronger.
Shaq wasn’t getting the ball at the 3pt line. Massive difference in style of play, and it would take a lot more weight before Wemby would be even realistically able to body people like that.
(Unless it’s Chet)
Man. Chet catching some unnecessary strays hahaha. (You’re not wrong though.)
Yea tbh the best move would just be to shoot over him in the middy. Back to the basket, then turn around so the defender has to take their hand off & it’s a free shot.
Wemby did a lazy/panicked version here. He needs to be deeper in & sticking that ass out instead of extending his noodle arm to create space on someone like Randle.
He can also do a decent job of pulling reach in fouls by starting low and wrapping those noodles around guys framing off him like Randle here.
Not exactly ethical though
https://youtu.be/rGezRtHbWvk
I’m thinking more plays like this simple triangle set. I’m not sure why we don’t do anything like it other than the Wemby being pushed off his space easily or trusting that kind of pass. He’s quick enough to turn his hips to get it without needing the strength to hold his position I think. Either way the defender has to foul him to stop it.
The ruleset is different with guarding space now, but Sheed is doing that even back then with hovering around the rim and the corner. I still think Wemby could get this easily even then against small lineups.
Wemby should play nothing like shaq lol.
Shaq wasn’t just some bruiser, he did play with finesse a lot of the time. Hence the suggestion of spinning on his man which they both could do.
Yet
Getting away with Dort/Caruso levels of physicality there. Refs letting crazy hand checking go. Shit varies so much night to night and team to team.
That’s all I could think too. Couldn’t believe how much contact he was able to get away with here.
It’s truly baffling where they will draw the line each night. Hell, each possession
Each possession? Its nuts watching a player get hacked, and then 10 seconds later they’re getting freethrows for a ticky tack foul.
I just throw my hands up anymore. Same game, same situation and a different call depending on who the player is or what the spread is.
This is the worst it makes zero sense, like just call a late foul instead of waiting for the softer one to finally call it
Wouldn’t count on being able to do that through a whole playoff series for sure
As a pacers fan, I’d disagree.
Those rules don’t apply to us lol
That’s fair!
Clearly he bodied him out of bounds, no? I didn’t mind the rest of the defense
Similar to what they let players get away with on KAT
I miss the days when this was considered standard defense league wide.
Yep. Gotta pass, move around, post up. Pretty lame how it’s become taking turns going 1-on-1 with some exceptions.
that was Dennis Rodman type of defense. i love it and i love that it was a no call
It never was. Not on face up guys.
Wolves fan so admittedly biased - but this looked like a lot more of “defending with your chest” vs. OKC’s style of constant hand-checking / holding/ swiping. Multiple times he very deliberately puts his hands down by his sides to make sure he doesn’t give Wemby an opportunity for a rip through (which Wemby was looking for at least once or twice).
Defense looks legal, except the 2 hand push which is usually let go. Wemby needs to get the ball deeper, you cant drive on someone faster and stronger than you. You get the ball inside and shoot over.
Looks to me like he uses his hands to push Wemby’s hips a solid 10 times or so in the clip.
you have to be trolling. OKC is probably the best at using their chests in the league. at least you admit your bias
Caruso literally holds and smacks the hand. i don’t see that here
Legendary wolves whistle 😤
Oh boo hoo
Defenders can be more physical when the dude they are guarding is a 8 inches taller.
most of the physicality here is in the core/hips area, with some pushes. randle is very strong when he keeps his legs down.
dort and caruso just reach out and blatantly grab, hack and slash limbs like crazy, like jaguars lol
Spurs need to dish it out in kind like OKC. Refs wanna put the whistle away vs Wemby to give smaller defenders a chance, so if they’re gonna call the game like that, get ultra physical.
They just need to make hand checking legal again.
The way nba is officiated has forever been so weird to me. The inconsistency, just so weird.
Complain all you want he’s too little✌️
He even thrusted his body forward, leaving Wemby no room which is what caused him to fall out of bounds. Refs called no foul.
This is child’s play compare to how curry is handled every single night.
The Wolves have always been an extremely physical team. It’s one of the reasons I just laugh when their fans cry about OKCs physicality in our matchups.
We’d love a physical game as long as SGA isn’t falling all over the place drawing nothing fouls.
Nah you’d cry about that too rofl
Hasn’t happened yet b/c sga is sga
Yeah nothing like watching ant Randle and anyone else look like a punching bag for people to practice their karate chopping on causing a missed shot or a strip because their entire arm was chopped off the ball, and then 10 seconds later watching SGA trip himself with his own foot and he’s shooting free throws.
Then some OKC fan talks about how it’s actually a fair whistle because SGA creating fouls by falling over and not even taking a real shot and getting the softest whistle ever is somehow balanced out because OKCs hackathon called defense gets called for fouls like 10% of the time and then try to point to the fact the other team shot more FTs.
Aw
Why was wemby rubbing his head on Randle lol
To prove his hair is real and not painted on.
JB out here catching strays
I now have a phobia of getting my shirt stained playing pick up.
Haven’t happened to me yet, but my god if it happens to me, I’m throwing hands.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=StrAy4c_VRw&pp=ygUWa2V5IGFuZCBwZWVsZSBhaXJwbGFuZQ%3D%3D
That’s his thing.
He’s trying to use his shoulders/body to create space but Randle is too strong
He don’t need to. He 7’6? Just turn and shoot. Wasting all that energy to turn it over lol.
I think that’s it tho. He wants to square his body to the hoop so he can shoot like it’s practice (which it will always be for the giant) but Randle isn’t letting him set two feet comfortably
He’s bringing the ball down low to his defender and bending over to his defender height. I get what you’re saying but if he turn with the ball up and his elbows out he gon make him back up. He could get so many easier shots that way. Then get into his bag if needed.
He should turn and face more often and Dirk is probably a good inspiration for him. Although, I don’t see how it makes the defender back up. If anything, they’ll be forced to come out more and play taller to honor his jumper which will set up his drives/post up better.
Wemby doesnt have any strength or leverage. He is constantly getting bullied by everyone. He needs an elevated flop game.
Because what is he supposed to do? If he uses his arm, defenders flop and he gets called for offensive foul. It had happened multiple times before so he uses his head to create separation lol.
I wish the refs would allow this type of defense consistently every night.
OKC did it for a long time and people only complained
Lol not even ‘they consistently allowed it in OKC games’, just ‘they consistently allowed OKC to do it’.
But it’s not consistent there are some refs that love to call everything and some that don’t, it’s just that OKC have a lot of plus defenders that actually stay infront thus it’ll appear as if they get away with more. I’ve seen the Nuggets fanbase complain about the 2024 Wolves and then the 2025 Thunder so I don’t think any team is actually being favoured other than the Lakers at the charity stripe
Oh and also bigs get a lot less grace than smalls in terms of contact by defenders
Yeah because that wasn’t consistent. One team isn’t the same as all teams. We want consistency, not preferential treatment.
Would’ve been an amazing moment to hit him with the “too small” if Jules were the type of guy to do that
Ant did it to Castle later in the game. He is the type of guy to do that lol
I still love you Julius!
Turned our team around. That’s my PF man.
Might be the best defense I’ve ever seen Julius play
There was a stretch on the lakers where he was locking up all the best guards. 2018-19 harden
I remember he was giving lebron nightmares once
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You’re right, but you commented on the wrong one
Players can play amazing defense when the refs swallow their whistles. gg though
Where was the foul? His arms are down the whole time wemby being a featherweight doesn’t make it a foul😂
Yeah I’m not seeing a foul here, maybe some hand checking after he lost his dribble, but if Wemby is that weak that’s on him.
How dare the defender position himself between the offensive player and the basket using his body to impede the drive to the rim.
Everyone gets outraged when guys play physical defense while simultaneously screaming into the void about how nobody can defend anymore because offensive players get such a ridiculous whistle.
Something is very wrong with r/nba.
More so players can play amazing defense when they actually try to. Most of the bad to average defenders in the league just don’t give af. They just there to shoot and get paid
Come on, man. That was just good defense.
Yall were trashing Celtics fans when they were complaining about only getting 4 free throws against you last night.
Cmon, let’s not do this.
I think that was great defence by Randle. I think on another day he could have been called for a foul multiple times there, but I’m glad to see this physical type of defence where there was no obvious holds, reach ins or significant shoves. If I was a Spurs fan I would probably not be happy though.
Yeah I was calling Randle an idiot for being so aggressive and thought that was getting a foul for sure out of bounds
Nah i need wemby to have reps from this kind of defense, he needs to figure this out if he wants to be the best player in the world.
You telling me he didn’t push him? Genuinely curious. The way he fell it looked like he was Def pushed
It’s hard to tell when wemby is on the sidelines, but the rest of the play look at randles feet and body, he is only holding ground not encroaching into wembys space.
It’s hard to say if he bumped wemby out of bounds vs him losing balance tho, we just don’t have the angle to tell.
He is still fouling since he handchecking but the league only cares sometimes about that so who cares.
Happens literally every possession of every nba game we not gonna start complaining about that shit now
offense doesnt have enough of an advantage yet
It deserves complaint because this is how Caruso guards Jokic, but how other teams aren’t allowed to guard guards that flail their arms if they get touched. You can’t have it both ways on a nightly basis
Nah we should. Being able to hand check 30% of the time means the game itself is different from possession to possession and not in a good way. But in all honesty you right the refs are so shit that I don’t even know.
Should it be brought up as an issue? Yes maybe. Is it reasonable to only bring it up when it happens while your favorite player is getting clamped and you’re scrambling for an excuse? Nope
I ain’t live San Antonio, I like him but why would he be my favourite player? Do I only complain about Wemby not getting calls? Why you acting like you know me in this comment?
I get what you’re saying, he is. Definetly handchecking n contact with the hands. But idc about that. Refs are to loose with the whistle n it makes the game tough to watch. but all you need is a light push when someone is in that kind of motion.
Ya I’m getting downvoted but my point isn’t that they should call it (shit it should be fully legal) my point is that calling it inconsistently basically ruins the flow of the game and leaves players playing a guessing game of what they can and can’t do.
I mean come on, way too many people acting like Julius was hacking him. Was he playing physical defense, yes, was wemby also playing physical, yes.
He literally didn’t have a hand on him during the time derby fell out of bounds. He pushed I ut with his chest but you’re allowed to do that while your feet are planted.
I’m surprised the refs let the rest of this play out. It all looked fine to me but there’s definitely moments they’ve called at other times. But I think the moment he fell out is more clear cut than the rest.
My biggest problem with nba refs is the inconsistency. That shi pmo
No he literally did. Slow the video down. His hands are on Wemby’s back as it appears that Wemby is being pushed (based on Wemby’s body/laws of physics), and then Randle whips his hands behind his back SUPER QUICK.
I have no issue with this more physical defense (as long as it’s consistently called by refs), but please don’t deceive yourself into thinking there wasn’t a push here.
His hands are literally on him the entire video until he falls and his arms instantly go into the “I didn’t touch him” position lmao
Wemby falls down a lot, tbh.
Randle would be suspended if he tried that level of physical defense on Shai
and Luka would get two free throws, and he’ll turn them over
Nuh uh Luka would go cry to ref
And if this clip was Dort instead of Julius Randle everybody would be bitching that we‘re the only team allowed to play physical defense and this was just obvious fouling
Nah Dort would have tried to grab his balls
I don’t see Randle diving into anyone’s knees here
Can Thunder fans try any other personality trait besides victim mentality?
He’s so strong
Fire hydrant vs. broomstick
This was amazing ngl
Randle is strong as fuck, no wonder Wemby couldn’t get past him
Wemby might be the only star to not complain about a no whistle here.
ethical hooper
TAKE A SEAT MONSIEUR
Kudos for Randle, this was awesome to watch.
Why is Wemby dribbling in halfcourt play lol
Wemby tends to take things personally when he’s challenged. Most times it leads to a highlight, but other times……
I feel like we proved that being on his ass with physicality is how you take him out of the game. Not sure why more teams arent doing this. His handles are ass and hes a twig
I think this is why Chet does so badly against Wemby. He can’t outrange Wemby, out speed Wemby, and he’s a fellow twig.
He’s poor’s guy Wemby 😭
With a ring
Yup. And unless Wemby get his, it’s better to be Chet lol
Definitely some people can do it but not that many players realistically. Most are either too slow, not used to guarding in the perimeter, or too small.
It’s clips like these that make you wonder how amazing he would be if he didn’t mess up his leg his rookie season
He won me over during his Knicks tenure and it is nice to see him thriving elsewhere!
Great defense by Randle but like,… the OOB is all Castle’s incredibly badly timed cut lol. Had he just stayed in the corner Wemby would’ve just passed it to him, which I don’t know if that’s any better but he at least they’d have had a few seconds to shoot lol
There obviously isn’t a trusted method to stop Wemby (probably never will be), but big strong wings seem to have the most success so far. More than big strong centers or the smaller, more mobile centers. Look at Randles positioning here, it seems he was coached on this. He doesn’t usually guard like that to my memory.
And I bet Randle is in the top 5 for strongest non-centers in the league
There is nothing like a locked in Julius
that’s my boy! gods i miss him on the knicks
Strength vs length.
We’ll trade you Ousmane Dieng and a FRP. Need some beef to throw at Wemby, and that was crazy good defense.
Defense is sexy. And forces better offense. League is improved when defenders are allowed to play basketball
That’s unreal
Great D
Cold
Was at the game. The announcers weren’t playing when they said the crowd loved that. We were playing mostly shart ball until then. Scraping back into the game just to quickly evaporate that progress into a big deficit. This play ignited the fans and I think that fed the team. The rest of the game had 100% effort from everyone defensively. They were locked in and god damn Randle is a man. What a great ending. Props to Ant, Naz, and Donte. Just maximum effort in the fourth quarter. I think the Wolves don’t like losing more than they like winning if that makes sense, especially to teams with a better record. This team just finds a second gear when trailing in the second half.
We was tired
My favorite of the Baby Lakers. Good to see him doing well
Woof Wemby
Randle has always been a great on ball defender.
we here year surrounded by gud defenders he was a rock esp gud point of attack defenders like elf n Gumby with a mobile big like noel n da right situations julez a plus defensively
Wemby too skinny for Randle.
I get it’s not the 90’s anymore and people have said the same thing about Embiid forever but it drives me fucking nuts that Wemby plays like he thinks he’s a guard. Motherfucker can touch the rim without jumping and rarely wants to be near it
Outside of off ball movement or early seals in transition he can’t really park himself in the low block best he can do is Dirk’s spot or the block ~8 feet away which is big man area still for a big who can shoot. Outside of him getting the ball back from being poked that looks like a big man that can shoot.
I also don’t think guards can pass him the ball from the perimeter that well if he’s that low anyways since their defender would likely be trying to cover for that and you don’t want constant bounce passes to the low block all the time.
Looks like a giraffe on skates. Just catch the ball and dunk it my guy. You are 20 feet tall
Kind of crazy the man with the shortest arms clamped the man with the longest arms. I remember that was one of his weakness’ people would bring up when the Lakers drafted him.
I NEVER KNEW THIS. doesn’t look like it at all. I’ve heard more about Bane than Randle
I wasn’t as active on reddit at the time, but it was a huge point of discussion on Lakersground. A quick google shows you some articles as well like this one: https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/2/5258332/julius-randle-nba-draft-prospect-2013
Defender constantly pushing/blocking with his arm is good defense? SGA would get his FT at that point.
Had it been Ant stopping Luka, this post would have 20 awards, 6k likes and 2k comments 🤭
Wemby does not get a superstar whistle. That’s 5 fouls against Shae or Luka.
He fouled wemby about 3 times!
Wemby has 0 offensive basketball IQ. Why is he catching the ball at the 3 point line and putting the ball on the floor at 7’5” instead of catching it and just shooting over his defender. It was cool at first but he trying to hard to dribble and get highlights when he could just turn and shoot. Like him shooting 3s is giving the defense a break. He came out like Giannis opening night but I guess he playing hurt. Either way he needs to be posted up on the elbow AT LEAST. And the fact his coaches letting him do that is even more hilarious
Once again proving how worthless Rudy Garbage really is.
Lol. Look at Twolves D rating with him on the floor vs not. GD causal
I see Randle locking down the Spurs’ best player not the so called “best defender” in the league. Just more proof that he’s worthless ass garbage
Oh and shove that stupid Defensive Rating BS up your ass.
Could’ve called about 5 fouls here lol
fouled wemby*
Playing defense isn’t a foul
To be fair, a Lakers fan isn’t going to have a realistic understanding of what a foul looks like.
Or what defense looks like
shoving someone out of bounds is a foul
Didn’t you read the title? Wemby sat down.
Nah, I don’t see a foul
pushed him
No he didn’t
i mean he clearly did lol
Left foot slipped on the out of bounds floor. No push at all
I disagree
He didn’t. Not only can you not see any push in this clip, the broadcast showed another angle and it was just good defend. Nice try though lol