Mark Williams on the Lakers trade being rescinded after a failed physical: “Honestly, like, fu*k y’all.”
I still want to know why he failed his physical. Did they find a fckin Xenomorph in his stomach?
He’s had multiple back/foot issues, probably just didn’t like what they saw out of scans or medical documents as for how that will progress down the line
We already have a guy on our team with lifelong foot issues in Vando
Probably scarred the front office from signing him
more than likely the Lakers thought they overpayed
Yeah, the precedent for rescinding a trade for medical concerns would typically mean some new diagnosis, but he was playing and has kept playing without anything new being reported. I guess whatever catastrophic injury LAL discovered wasn’t shared with Williams/Charlotte/Phoenix.
There seems to be an implication that you don’t do it unless there’s some new, big discovery, because you severely diminish a guy’s trade value and reduce the capital of the trading team. There was also reporting that the Hornets withheld information and there’s been nothing to suggest that’s true. “Mark Williams has back and foot problems” wasn’t exactly headline news. If he didn’t have those issues, he’d fetch a lot more than DK and a 2030 24th pick.
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if some combination of cold feet and “Sorry, Luka, we tried to get the guy you asked for but it just wasn’t meant to be” were at play. Maybe it’s wrong to be suspicious of Pelinka and the Lakers without more information, but that certainly didn’t stop the entire NBA community here from accusing Charlotte at the time.
Dam the back of your foots a tough spot for issues too
Technically it would be in his chest 😉🤓
First thing I thought of when I saw his comment. Because I’m a nerd.
Had to be preemptive with my “well ackshually”🤣
How would the egg go down his throat and incubate in the chest cavity? Doesn’t it have to incubate in the stomach or intestines, then burst out of the chest after it comes out of the egg?
I think you are right but I’m afraid to correct the other nerds
Yeah that’s why he failed. Wrong Xenomorph Placement
Is it that bizarre the Lakers didn’t like the result of the physical of a guy who plays half a season every year?
They knew of his availability issues before doing a whole trade for him…. then going back on their agreement after the physical. Players with injury histories are traded all the time yet trades being canceled is super rare.
Especially when they didn’t have a legit center until Ayton. Something spooked Lakers enough to cancel the trade.
You sir are correct
they had buyers remorse
Honestly that was it, they wanted to keep the pick and Dalton looked like a younger bigger Reeves before the trade
Dalton had already been pretty bad for a bit before the trade iirc
Dalton was dog shit when the trade went in and he hasn’t gotten any better either.
It was two picks was it not?
x-rays showed he had that dog in him, can’t be having that in Laker colours these days. Hoes or pass.
I wonder if they knew they’d get Ayton
He’s got a kuato
Get your ass to mars.
This shit is why the internet thrives lmfao
LeBron vetoed the Knecht trade lol.
I’d argue that would increase his trade value. Xeno’s got some height and some crazy wing spans.
You know how fucked the physical had to be for them to go “Yeah we straight with Jaxson Hayes.”
i think it was a sudden pang of FOMO on Knecht from someone high up and high
I think it was the pick, not Knecht.
Yep. Either way it was buyers remorse for whatever reason. People clowned on the hornets fans for saying this, but it doesn’t make sense that he was able to play for us but supposedly couldn’t pass their physical for a trade.
it doesn’t make sense that he was able to play for us but supposedly couldn’t pass their physical for a trade
His career high for played games in a season was 44, last season. That’s barely over half a season. The year before he played 19 games of 82. Him being fit and healthy at the moment of the trade doesn’t mean he’s magically not injury prone.
I was with you guys. I don’t think Mark Williams physical could be that bad. Like, players get picked all the time with questionable medical stuff. Mark was actively playing at the time, I fail to see why could’ve been so bad that they rescinded the trade while he was actively playing and not looking fucked up or hobbled on the court. They let Embiid play with his knees blown out.
Lakers definitely regretted the trade and pulled a fast one to back out.
entirely possible they found a chronic issue of some kind, or something degenerative in one of his joints, something that was known by Charlotte but not declared. that would, in horrible dehumanising nba terms, be a rapidly depreciating asset.
Yea i mean it sounds kinda conspiracy theory like but the rozie4 deal tells us Charlotte is more than willing to operate without disclosing all available information
I keep seeing this presented as a binary but it think it was both. They probably saw something that made them worry he would never stay healthy or have a short career but I do agree it was mostly last second regret over how much we paid for him. Like they were already divided on if they overpaid for him and what they saw on the physical just pushed it over the line.
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youre definitely not the one im talking about who i think may have made the decision
I was actually the one who made the decision. Mark Williams felt like a future Suns player, so I threw y’all a bone.
hey, you dont know, that could be Pelinkas reddit
they DID report me to Reddit Cares INSTANTLY after i made that comment. is that on brand for Pelinka?
No, you’re just making up bullshit
Why where are people getting this idea that the Lakers valued Knecht. He sucked at the time of the trade.
He was an older rookie who could only shoot. And when he sucked at that he literally couldn’t do anything else.
It’s never really added up on either side unless his physical really was not what they were expecting. I can’t see them having buyers remorse when they didn’t have a real center.
Look at how many games he’s played. Thats all you have to know when he was supposed to get starter minutes if traded
Yeah like who were they trading/sending away again?
Dalton Knecht and cam reddish for Williams?
If the lakers run those 2 for Williams again the team with Williams say fuck no.
Lakers were offloading two bench players with minimal impact for someone who might make an impact.
I’m gonna live my life by “honestly, like, fuck y’all”
Best way to live
Happy New Year everybody 🎉
Its not
IDGAF is a great mentality for most things. Lots of peace.
I think it’s childish and makes you an unlikeable person.
Spite is one of the greatest motivators.
Sprite, not so much. Sorry Anta Claus.
Sprite is great when your stomach flips
You’re not wrong, but so is 7-Up, Ginger Ale, hell, even Starry has a second to shine there.
BUT, y’know what goes harder? Feeling your stomach flip, puking on your enemy’s rug (bonus points if it’s a Lakers rug and you’re Mark Williams), nodding at them like “What.” and walking away.
Bro hates us haha. Can’t blame him.
He outplayed Ayton last game.
To be fair, hating the Lakers is like, super easy to do.
It happens without trying really
what beef do Raptors fans have with the Lakers?
LeBronto
That’s more for Bron stans/Lebron rather than the Lakers/Lakers fans
Is that not more a Cleveland/Miami thing
why limit yourself geographically, when hate is eternal?
Kobe’s greatest hits often involved fucking the Raptors.
He did us bad, search up Kobe 2003 to find out more
81 point game comes to mind
Maybe the World Series?
I have learned we are like the Brady-era Patriots- hated by default without needing a “personal” reason. Plenty of the hate is for general reasons. We are basically always the evil empire. So I’m no longer shocked by it, just shrug my shoulders and move on.
And after the Luka-AD thing I know it’s only (justifiably) been inflamed.
Almost as easy as outplaying Ayton
C- can I, outplay ayton? 🥺👉👈
I have no doubt.
It is a way of life here. Behind all NLW animosity we unite under our hatred of the Dodgers too.
Not really a high bar to clear.
Mark has been really solid for us, super glad we ended up with him. The dude just turned 24 too.
That’s like saying someone beat me in a foot race.
Honestly anybody in his shoes would be pissed at the lakers
They actually really negatively impacted his career and potential future earnings. Not just for the trade not going through in and of itself
Yeah I’m gonna say his injury history of never playing more then 44 games in a season is the reason for his career being negatively impacted and potential future earnings.
It’s not like his injury history was a surprise tho lol
That information was very available before your FO agreed to the trade.
Which means the physical was even worse than expected
The FO knew that before they traded for him. Where do you think they get information from lmao
wait why? I don’t get what the Lakers did wrong. Didn’t he fail the physical
Just another conspiracy theory this sub believes because it goes against the Lakers.
They really negatively impacted his career so much he got traded to a team 2 games below the 6th seed in the west? He’s doing great imo, vibes are great in Phoenix, they’re looking to make the playoffs, and he’s the starting center. Also a lot less drama with the Suns than the Lakers this year.
Getting to play with Luka and bron would definitely boost his numbers a good bit
True, but who knows what Rob does. He probably still peruses Ayton knowing Williams isn’t always healthy. He’s having the best season he’s ever been in from a team standpoint, so I think that’s a good thing!
They actually really negatively impacted his career and potential future earnings
for Knecht too. Dalton was playing like a 6th man before the trade. then suddenly forgot how to play
Do you guys who say this think other teams just take the Lakers word for it and don’t run their own physicals?
Nothing will ever make me hate Mark lol
Not even if he was on the list?
Okay one thing can make me hate Mark
Bro would be a victim😂
GOATed reply lmao
God damn
Watching the surge of Lakers fans who definitely watched Mark Williams play games be ecstatic they got him to calling him an injured bum was hilarious to watch in real time tbh.
The trade must’ve been vetoed last minute by someone in the lakers org, I don’t believe it was a physical
I’ll never be convinced it wasn’t a cold feet higher up veto after they started getting slated for getting fleeced by the fuckin Hornets. The fact that they got away with it was just another punch down on the little man.
E/ Miss me with the ‘public opinions can’t sway business decisions’ bit, Lakers fans. That’s a clown position and you know it.
promise you nobody in the lakers front office said “they’re saying on the internet we got fleeced, cancel the trade”
“Guys, you wouldn’t believe what they’re saying on Reddit!”
For real. Teams constantly get mocked for getting fleeced, and yet somehow the Lakers are the ones who get cold feet?
Hahah people really think otherwise 😭
dawg that rescinded trade locked us into a season of Jaxson Hayes as a starting center I promise it wasn’t cold feet
I feel like the cold feet thing would’ve made sense if they made a better move at center in the offseason, aytons solid for his value but he’s only a stop gap as well which they couldn’t have known they’d get. Thought the trade was reasonable as well sell high on knect and one first for a solid center to cover up a massive glaring weakness. maybe they didn’t want to trade a first but at like the same time they shelled out a first for a dfs rental.
DFS was 3 seconds.
They only shelled out seconds for DFS, not first.
Hornets demanded an unprotected FRP and a first round swap for a soon-to-be RFA with multi-year injury history. Cold feet was understandable, that was expensive.
The whole sub can convince themselves of any conspiracy theory if it goes against the Lakers. They literally have believed at least 4 off the top of my head.
How would that have even been a fleece by the hornets? Also wasn’t Williams missing half of his rookie year with injuries?
He did not.
He spent about a third of his rookie year in the G league. That accounts for a lot of his “missed games” that year. He had a thumb or finger injury late in the season. The season was already over so there was no point.
It was his second year where he had the major back injury that caused him to miss almost the entire year
If the Lakers backed out of trades because people online complained they were getting fleeced, they never would have completed the Westbrook trade (among other trades probably, that’s just the most notable one).
Two teams have different stories, let’s all choose to believe the one that traded away a player for a first round pick despite knowing he was involved in a federal gambling investigation.
It’s crazy they want us to believe social media opinions changed a FO’s mind over a FO that withheld information previously did it in another trade.
I fucking hate the Lakers, and it’s absolutely not a clown position.
Is that really possible? If something like that happened in baseball it would be a huge scandal, players union would probably immediately go after the team for tanking a players future contract value.
Yeah sure, he cannot play back-to-backs as 24 years old and his minutes being managed all season but it is surely not the physicals. He is fine.
His point per possesion is off the charts, 1.41 point per possesion. That’s if you shot 70% on two pointers without any turnovers. Draymond Green is at .98 point per possesion this year. Bronny is at .90 points per possesion. Austin Reaves is at 1.27 ppp.
The quadfecta of elite scorers
I would hope a guy who doesn’t handle the ball and gets fed buckets at the rim has a high PPP lol
What’s Ayton at?
He is still scrolling down..
His fg% and points are higher than Williams’
Says it’s around 1.0-1.1
Gotcha ty!
Whats his usage ?
Yeah, at the time I was pretty excited for the trade, his health concerns aside he was looking like a massive offensive upgrade at C and always topped charts and graded really well on offensive aspects of the game. The defense had some questions but the fit was good overall.
Was pretty sad when the trade was rescinded but I think it’s pretty easy to justify that given how unhealthy he’s been before this season.
Lakers woulda been better with Williams than ayton bum
Probably, but they got ayton for free. The assets were the problem with the trade for the Lakers. 1 first 1 swap and DK (who at that time was playing well and worth a first.) So 3 firsts for Williams, that’s steep even if they were trading DK at a high.
Lakers don’t have many assets so I get why they did it, but I will never fault Williams for being upset about it
Dalton had been in a terrible slumo for a fair while leading up to the trade.
People think his play collapsed after the trade, but he greatly improved as a contributor throughout the rest of that regular season.
He was benched in the playoffs because he’s unplayable on that stage due to his abysmal defense and lack of offensive output to outweigh it.
This. Not to mention he missed more games than Embiid in the last 3 years.
No Ayton would mean Lakers could’ve used their tax-MLE on a perimeter defender aside from Smart.
DK was never worth a first
He went 2/9/2 in 24 minutes tonight 😅
7 rebounds more than Ayton
8 less points, with those points only coming off free throws.
Huh? Ayton’s been fine without even considering they got him for free. Williams would’ve cost real assets, they essentially got someone as good as him without spending anything.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he get injured afterwards or something? I’m probably wrong though
He was already injured, then the lakers said due to his history rescinded the trade. He came back and then got hurt again and didn’t play the rest of the season. So you’re correct lol
Nah he missed time in April from an injury I’m pretty sure
2025 mindset summed up
Kinda crazy this year went by so fast with all the dumb shit that happened
I want to know why Charlotte, a team of young players with potential, would constantly try to trade their young, promising center so badly. It’s almost like they knew something was wrong with him
They traded him the first time because they thought it was good value. They traded him the second time because like Mark said in the video, he didn’t wanna be there anymore after that
Because he was injury prone. That was never a secret.
Oh, please remind me is this the same franchise that withheld information about their player being under federal investigation for gambling and traded him for a pick?
I don’t get why he’s upset. No team would go through with a trade if a player failed a physical.
He thought he was going to live in LA. packed up his house. spent time thinking about the move, etc, all for nought
Exactly. They believed in him enough to trade for him.
Failing the physical was the highlight of his career
They see him rollin
They Ayton
Good for him. I’d be pissed too
Mark Williams had only played 85 games since his career started at the point of the trade. He isn’t exactly a paragon of good health.
A complete nobody center who can’t stay on the court and it’s “fuck y’all” to the Lakers?
Ok go continue to be irrelevant I guess
I’m sure the Lakers are regretting it now. Dalton hasn’t played much this season.
the Lakers made the right call most games he played in a season is only 44
Failed physical or not they decided to hold onto Knecht instead 😭
And 2 picks
A True Sun. FTL
What did I do
Glad Mark is thriving down in Phoenix after that fiasco.
Ayton ain’t the answer. We need a bigger dog on D, maybe we get something for that draft pick and knect though
I’d like to make a big offer for Kessler in RFA
Nobody wants Knecht
They should fail whoever sitting in the middle for those shorts lmao wtf you doing dude
Ayton is more available than Mark Williams, has anyone seen how little the suns play him? Something is definitely off
He plays every game except back to backs
Yes, he does, but his minutes are more sporadic
Ayton is better.
Nice try DeAndre Ayton
I wish we got more interviews like this. We will eventually once the PR trained shit canned answers get old.
Isn’t he having his worst statistical season and is still hurt a lot? I don’t think he was worth 2 firsts
He hasn’t been hurt this year at all and has been fantastic.
This is just objectively false. He’s been great for us.
Just because ppg is less doesn’t mean he’s worse. He went from being considered a non defender to one of the best in the league this year
That’s true. If you can get 50+ games a year out of him that would be great
Reasonable response
They couldn’t’ find any smaller shorts.
This thread lacks critical thinking. Charlottes traded Terry Rozier to Miami knowing that he had a fed investigation on him, and every1s talking about how the lakers got “cold feet”. Charlottes a shady af org, and they lied about mark’s physicals
Meanwhile the Suns: thank you
Should have gone through with the trade since Knecht has been really bad since.
I was really excited to see that Luka and Mark Williams pairing. The defense still would’ve been horrendous and Minnesota still bouncing them but it would’ve been a much more fun watch than Jaxson Hayes
I bet mark williams was laughing when he saw Ayton had 2 rebounds the other night
Is he laughing at the 2 points he just put up?
He just had a worse game 😂
Nice nuthuggers!
Ok but why are they all manspreading? Lmao.
Where can I watch this full episode
Why bros balls about to pop out of those shorts? That’s what is really crazy.
Think that says more about you.
Can’t blame the Lakers for realizing they overpaid. Just because he has managed to stay healthy doesn’t mean he wasn’t a health risk at the time. Doubt the Lakers would’ve managed to do anything in the playoffs if they had kept him, but nice to see him doing well with the Suns.
This is how you should handle breakups
It’s ok to hate a little
i feel him .. they flew him out, then reneged on him
this is real life, it’s not spades.
Good to see goodwin getting media time. Bro always played his heart out on defense coming up through the Lakers G league.
Fuck you too, big overpay for his ass anyway. Palinka is a bum.