[Highlights] Three instances in the 2nd half where Steph Curry gets fouled, makes the circus shot but does not get the continuation (with replays). He eventually gets a circut shot And-1 to go and points at his wife and kid.
He clearly starts shooting in response to contact. This is how it should be called, but isn’t how the league is typically calling stuff.
I’m totally okay with that if that’s actually how it’s usually called. But night after night I see every other star in the league get the continuation calls on more questionable plays than these while Steph straight up NEVER does.
You haven’t watched many Suns games I take it. Booker gets mauled just like this just about every game and the refs ignore it.
Exactly, it’s the lack of consistency that is killer. Plus I’ve always thought it was a bit dumb how you could get continuation for 3+ steps after contact on a layup/dunk but on shots like this continuation is nonexistent.
That has been in for at least 20+ years if you’re fouled after a gather.
What should happen is consistency throughout the league. The Lakers are the 5th seed, and we’re the 8th seed, with them having 3 more wins than us. I can make a good argument that that difference is because Luka and AR get these calls and Steph doesn’t. To be clear, I’m NOT saying Steph is denied these calls that often. But Luka and AR live and die on these calls. Luka is averaging about 12 FT a game, and AR about 9. Steph is averaging under 6.
I hate the flopping from all parties involved, and it’s getting harder and harder for me to watch the sport I used to love much, but let’s not act like Luka and AR have similar play styles to Curry
No. But their play styles lean into this foul baiting. I hate when Steph does it too, but at least it’s a minor part of his game. I actually like Luka and AR but can’t stand this part of their game. Or when Luka doesn’t get the call and decides that arguing is better than playing defense. The Lakers are so used to getting these calls that they get mad when they don’t. Like you, I’d prefer if nobody did. But I do think the Lakers would take a huge hit. It’s just too easy to get points when you can get these calls.
The entire league would take a hit scoring wise, but that’s exactly what needs to happen. I’m sick of it, and close to just not tuning in as much
Something else I realized recently, and it was while watching James Harden. Imagine if he didn’t get calls. He would have to run up and down the court for 36+ minutes. He can’t do that. Luka can’t do that. Not sure Steph can either. So these foul baiting antics also give them a free time-out to breathe. LOL
The increase in viewership indicates you are on the minority
Go check last years playoffs and report back with your indications
Absolutely crazy talk. If you want to pick a player from gsw it should be butler who actually averages more fta on less shots.
Curry also falls every time he goes for a layup and currently averages more fta than lbj. It’s currently the 3rd highest fta he’s averaged in his career.
I would be 100% fine with the first call if it was remotely close to the norms of the way this foul is called. But it’s not.
But it’s not. It’s not close. These are continuation fouls and have been at least since Harden was traded to Houston.
The third one, I think, is just a late whistle. Should have been called much sooner, so shouldn’t have been a shooting foul. It’s just kind of absurd how Steph gets doesn’t get that whistle until he forces them to call it. (There’s a real cost in terms of wearing down Steph to plays like that over the course of the game.)
And the second one? I mean, that’s been a continuation call for at least 40 years.
(There’s a real cost in terms of wearing down Steph to plays like that over the course of the game.)
And we know that defenses play Steph a lot rougher physically (some have openly admitted it) because they know the refs won’t whistle it.
Only if you’re SGA, Jokic, Luka, and a few others that are playing this stupid way 🤷♂️
It’s been a problem for a long time. Saw Kobe and Wade doing the same shit.
True, and the loop closed with Hardem, Steph, Lebron, and others, when the league established the offensive-foul for unnatural moves to get fouls, which no refs ever remember.
And now this BS with shooting the ball when feeling contact needs to go away. The rule of shooting foul should be something around “having a clear intent of scoring”, sort of when a QB passes where no one is there and is an intentional grounding call.
Completely agree. I’d rather them call all “continuation” attempts like this. But they don’t.
they do keep saying it before the pre-season starts tho… and then go back to all the shitty ass, blind calls just to boost points.
fuck this league.
Totally agree. Just wish they would it call it like this for everyone. NBA continuation is right up there with the gather step as far as NBA rules that have most bastardized how the game was meant to be played.
Yeah I’m watching these clips losing my mind and being confused asf to what OP and the commentators are talking about lmao
It’s how it should be called, but that’s also not what the rule is.
Are you allowed to just put your hand on his shoulder like that when hes dribbling?
Ref: The foul began before you were in the shooting motion.
Steph: So, it’s a foul for them to grab and push me when I’m dribbling. Why didn’t you call it until I went to shoot?
Ref: Because it is incidental contact until you go to shoot.
Steph: Then, if it is incidental contact before the shot, it should be a shooting foul.
Ref: No, because the foul began before you were shooting.
100% and so dumb.
When something seems continously idiotic, it’s on purpose.
It’s unfortunately been our experience when watching Steph get reffed. League doesn’t deserve a superstar like him.
LOL
Hot stove contact
Those 3 words trigger me till this day. Till this day!
Bruh. Every time curry get hosed on whistle calls. Its these exact terminology used to not give him anything that benefits him.
HOT STOVE CONTACT
This reminds me of that scene with Patrick and Ray man with the wallet
literally the “it’s not my wallet” spongebob meme
Nah this is crazy haha
Ahahahahah fuck
he needs to be the one initiating contact like sga then he’ll get the whistle /s
I ain’t gonna lie. As a laker fan Luka gets the whistle here everytime. Steph is one of the all time super star that have a worse whistle. These refs sometimes are just watching him play and forget to blow them whistle lol
I’d also add, people on this sub constantly parrot that handchecking needs to be allowed again, and that it’s why defense is non-existant.
If you actually watch games, handchecking is basically allowed (especially on stars), up until a player goes up for a shot and your hand inhibits their shot from going up.
Clip 3 here is exactly that. Look how long Wolf literally has a hand on Curry’s shoulder which clearly slows down his laterally quickness. The foul is only called like 5 seconds later, when Curry actually attempts the shot.
I watch warriors games and understand constant hand checking is completely legal against curry
Yup, never seen a player experience it more than Steph
It’s amazing how the NBA treats Curry. I honestly don’t think they know what to do with him. Which is wild because he’s the closest thing we’ve seen to Jordan in the sense that he changed how the game is played.
Shooting Steph with a shotgun is completely legal. Especially if he doesn’t have the ball in his hands.
Why you leaking the Udoka defensive plan?
30 is, unequivocally, the star with the worst whistle in the nba.
Could be the worst whistle ever in any sport.
Worst whistle of all time, maybe ever
Some of y’all are wild. Shaq got fouled practically every time he went up for a shot. He just happened to be so big and strong that it had little effect on him. Dude was getting beat up in the paint.
Thank you at least for admitting this. Luka gets this ALL the time and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills watching it. Him and Steph both are so insanely coordinated that they can make it after the contact but the refs hate Curry for some reason
All time All-NBA shit whistle first team
The refs saw the little girl doing the “and one” and were like, okay.
“on replay, offensive foul on Karl-Anthony Towns.”
“Uhhh they’re playing New Orleans.”
“I stand by my call.”
I get that these calls are probably correct, but Luka and Austin get that and-1 every time. There needs to be some consistency. Also, I think they reviewed the out-of-bounds corner three and gave it back to him later.
SGA would get these and-1s 10⁄10 times.
It’s insane going from watching Steph to watching other guards in the league. The continuation they get can be like a full two steps after contact and meanwhile Steph gets absolutely demolished with a clothesline close out and the refs put their whistles away.
He not only doesn’t get basic calls, he gets the worst continuation whistle I’ve ever seen. Idk why they tryna nerf one of their biggest stars ever. This is like Under Armor accidentally walking into Steph and then failing to market him for a decade.
AR and Luka benefit from the refs the most out of any duo in the league and so do the lakers as a whole but SGA bad
Curry is beating treated like a rookie
Odd times
100⁄100
Austin Reaves has the greatest whistle in the league.
Sga Luka hardwn might be close there.
Brunson Booker are barely in the conversation anymore.
To me the first and last were shooting fouls, the second and third were not.
No what abouts… the calls are correct…stop.
Think the first was incorrect, but the other three were right.
it’s a 50⁄50 call usually when Luka/Austin gets the call the defender is moving into them then they go into their gather. The defender here is standing still and curry pushes into him. It’s a good no call. The 2nd and 3rd one probably should have been and ones though but again it’s a 50⁄50 call sometimes Luka and Reaves gets it sometimes they don’t.
I do think players should get rewarded for actually trying to make the shot rather than the opposite being true. With a lot of the Reaves ones he’s not even trying to make the shot, it’s just a jump into contact and then flailing the ball up in the air.
Tbh Luka and Reaves both hit those “fake gather” shots enough that it could be an actual shot for them
Reaves makes all sorts of and-1’s out of the contact, do you even watch?
He clearly doesn’t watch the games.
Yeah no I’ll be the first to criticize ARs foul baiting but he definitely will still try to make the shot. It’s honestly pretty impressive that he does make the shots as often as he does (despite me thinking no foul should have been called)
We can argue this being a non calls. The problem is other stars get those calls. Inconsistency is what makes this a problem.
Yup, if the refs never gave free throws for continuation in these situations, I’d be good with that.
Agree, and conversely the consistency with which Steph doesn’t get these calls, as exemplified by this clip. It doesn’t even show the one where he was fouled going to the basket with no call. It all happened within 5 minutes of the 4th quarter!
It was especially egregious this game
The problem is other stars players get those calls
This is accurate
If he’s brilliant enough that calling it that way gives him even more of an advantage, then, that’s the idea. I assume it’s not a directive from the league but a subconscious ref response to brilliance. Like it would be unfair if he got that call. Brilliance is meant to be unfair.
Refs won’t allow these types of shots, even with the whistle being blown clearly after the shot attempt, but will watch a player miss a shot and call a foul a whole 2 seconds after the fact.
Rightfully so. It was to nerf Dame, Trae and others infamously abusing this call off of screens.
A foul is a foul. You just named two players that at points in their careers have been some of the best floor stretchers in the league. Guys have to play them tight to stifle the shot, but they’re quick enough to make them pay. Like Steph, those guys often ran around screens, stopped on a dime for a pull-up 3, and got crashed into by the defender trying to fight around the screen. It’s dumb to “nerf” that. This isn’t a video game, it’s a skill and quickness issue. Quick good shooters shouldn’t be punished for being quick good shooters. Fouls should be called as fouls.
Man…. this is straight hate towards Steph
somebody else gets it 3 out of 3
Yeah that was kinda ridiculous. I could maybe see the one where Egor wrapped his arm around before he entered a shooting motion, but Steph’s bad whistle is just undeniable at this point.
I don’t even mind that he gets a bad whistle. I can’t stand the friendly whistle that Luka and AR get. It’s exhausting. They can just get free throws whenever they want.
That’s bullshit honestly
That’s 3 flagrants if it’s SGA.
You meant trips to federal prison, I think.
Check the prop bets.
This has been happening since before betting was legalized
Refs have nerfed steph his entire career. It’s embarrassing
I think the 2nd one was more of a continuation than the 3rd one but I figured they already called the first two against his way earlier in the game so they gave him the 3rd one
It’s because when jump shots and drives “start” differently and the 3rd one was considered a drive. Drives are on the gather so as long as you get fouled on the gather, it’s pretty much always continuation. Jump shots are when you go up and you can see clearly, Curry is normally taking the contact first then going up. It’s hard to get continuations on jumpers.
I appreciate non-Warrior fans fighting for Steph to get a whistle, but it’s year 16, it’s joever
As a warriors fan. I’m fine with these calls. The 2nd one was maybe a shooting foul/continuation. The other two he’s clearly fouled before attempting a shot and trying to bait a shooting foul call.
Agree but what kills me is the average NBA star gets these calls almost all of the time. No one should get these calls
The first, third and fourth I like the calls.
First one, he sees the defender coming and chooses to move into the contact - that should not be a defensive foul.
Third, the fouling starts way before any shot attempt, non-shooting foul is fine here.
Fourth, shooting foul called a shooting foul.
The second is a bit of a maybe - Steph steps into the contact, but the defender keeps his arm there when Steph disengages and goes into his shooting motion. I’d be okay with a shooting foul for that, but it’s nowhere near the craziest to not call.
The real problem is that other players are getting these sorts of things called for FTs.
Agreed. I’m fine with Steph getting none of these if Luka and AR don’t either. They literally win games with these.
The defender’s arm stays because Steph hooks it, looks like. Which we’ve seen called an offensive foul and a defensive foul, seems like it depends on the whim of the officials. One called as an offensive foul literally ended the game earlier this season but I’m blanking on who was playing.
The one warriors commentator speaks with the exact cadence of Tucker Carlson
lmao
Same laugh too 😵💫
Wiped off a whole 10 points had these counted.
This is actually how it should be called for all players. He doesn’t shoot until he feels contact.
Agree except it’s not called like this for most other stars
He should join OKC or the Lakers to get a whistle 😔
Steph with the Lakers whistle would be the greatest rim protector of all time since Austin Reaves
The sad part about this game is how the crowd made it feel like a Warriors home game. Refs didn’t get the memo for the second half. lol
I’m fine with not in the act of shooting. Steph is reacting to contact and then chucking it up.
What’s egregious is the act of shooting standard is so high for Steph but so low for all the grifters out there. Call the game this way for EVERYONE.
Exactly this. It actually would be great if the whole league was called like this
No swoosh = no continuation
Today I learned being the greatest shooter of all time isn’t enough to be rewarded continuation calls
The first one i can see not being a shooting foul.
The second one is awful.
It’s not about if it’s a right call, it’s about if it’s the same call as others
If the guy with the fastest release in the world doesn’t get continuation for this then nobody else should either.
Know the work rules but for foul baiting
I’ve seen more egregious acts get called for continuation. What are these refs smoking?
Check their families betting accounts.
I’ve lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money… Or ratings in not sure which. I won’t be silent . Just saw it live sry.
Top 10 all time
Hands down Goat of this generation. Always in highlights for right reasons and good dude.
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A no call makes a lot more sense than a foul before the shot.
They would never have called these fouls if he didn’t shoot the ball, so it should be a no call.
If they’re only calling the fouls because he shot the ball, then it should be a shooting foul.
Starting the shot to beat the whistle (example 1) does not mean he was in the act of shooting when fouled.
The second one, looked like the ref wasn’t going to call the arm around Steph until he shot it, and then only call it because Steph shot it. Pretty bogus in that case to not give the continuation.
I like the no call
damn it, forgot to watch the whole thing on mute
Continuation calls will never cease to confuse me.
Has LeBron ever had one of these called like this? Lol
By the actual rules, none of these should be shooting fouls. He’s feeling contact from a foul then going into the shot to get an and 1 opportunity. Thats not how it is supposed to work. The problem is that they call that continuation in the current NBA so why is this different?
I think steph doesn’t bribe the refs but Draymond does
Didn’t the league say (a couple years back now) that they were going to stop calling this “throw up a shot when you feel contact/get a whistle” and reward that as continuation?
I mean everyone knows Steph wasn’t going to step right inside the three point line to deliberately take some off balance leaning deep 2 point shot. In other words he’s only throwing up a shot because he feels a hand on his hip. Which is the exact type of plays they claimed they wanted to stop rewarding as continuation.
The first foul Steph was not in the act of shooting.
Just give the continuation buckets already! It’s impressive getting those shots in while being fouled! Make the NBA better!
The real FTA
god damn man i know the warriors broadcast sucks, but everytime i listen to them they somehow have gotten worse
When the Warriors are bad, Fitz is absolutely brutal. He whines and complains and goes on about how role players on the other team “can’t miss a shot!” or “is having the game of his life!” (which, you know, tends to happen to bad teams). He’s been like that for over 20 years and Warrior fans have generally never liked him.
I do think he’s a little bit more tolerable when the Warriors have been contenders because with the Warriors winning a lot more he’s much more comfortable complimenting the opponents when they do well.
I think they got these calls right - they just usually don’t get them right like this. He starts shooting after contact on all except the last.
So they get them correct on Steph, and incorrect on literally every other player?
Yes
Worth pointing out that Luka gets multiple instances of this called for him EVERY game.
I think those are the right call.
Problem is, they seem to only make this right call for certain players. Other guys get the super lenient continuation calls.
NBA has a consistency problem. I get that stars will always get a certain whistle, but we don’t even know what a travel or a carry is anymore.
Should be a no call, this league raises wooses for players
I don’t care if the calls are right or not, listening to these warriors announcers complain is sucking the life out of me. There is so much bitch in their voice.
I actually agree with the first call.
1st and 3rd are very minimal contact so in my opinion really should not be called fouls but if they are fouls then should be continuation calls. 2nd, Curry is holding the defender with his right hand so in my opinion should have been an offensive foul if a foul is called at all.
None of these should’ve been continuations btw
All of these he didn’t gather before the shot and honestly the last 2 are soft as fuck calls to begin with
You are missing the point. If you think they are soft, fine. But the point is every other guard, let alone superstar, in the league gets the continuation on these 10 out of 10 times
Settle down
First one was soft. All 3 were on the floor before the gather.
GS has the whiniest announcers in the league and it ain’t close.
All 3 called incorrectly.
How do ppl watch Warriors games with these broadcasters?
I usually sit on my couch
Good stuff. I got a leather chair or I lay in bed when my back is backing
I sync up the radio guy with my tv. He is really good.
Tim Roye is amazing.
What if the radio is a couple seconds ahead e: okay thought about pausing a radio stream online. Butttt what if you’re watching a stream and can’t pause like DVR
Simple
I turn on my tv and press start stream
How do you watch Laker’s games with your broadcasters? I promise you, it’s a bias. I’m rooting against the Laker’s so hard and your guys are miserable.
Volume very low. Just like with most national broadcasts, especially Doris and espn.
Funny coming from a Lakers fan
Lakers broadcast is fine
They’re one of the better broadcasting duos out there, actually.
If you glaze LeBron.
LA’s crew is really good
i watch both teams fairly religiously and la blows gsw’s crew out of the water. stu, in particular, is a legend and very fair.
kelenna is okay but fitz is godawful.
Was there a point to this comment or are you just circlejerking about Lakers fans?
Lakers fan complaining about bias lmfao
Are you implying the Lakers broadcast is biased?
Had to watch the warriors broadcast for our game against against them on Sunday, it was absolutely terrible. Was really fun to hear them so sad when their team choked though lmao
All you hear is mumbling because they can’t get Curry’s dick out of their mouths
get help
14 year olds think comments like these on the internet make them “not soft.”
These didn’t seem that bad, there’s a lot of Steph stealth flopping actually, the way he’s throwing himself into the defender, etc.
Curry is the greatest shooter in the history of basketball, but these kinds of plays are garbage. They are correct calls and probably shouldn’t even be called fouls in the first place in some instances.
Love it. The refs call shooting fouls way too often. Steph isn’t “in the act of shooting” in any of these plays. I wish this was never called. Luka tries the same thing and it’s called an and-1 the majority of the time, call it the same for everyone or don’t call it at all.
I agree with you that the shots start after the foul, but everyone besides Steph is getting continuation on those.
We need consistency on calls, and right now the only consistency I see is them screwing over Steph on both ends of the floor.
so why is it different for Steph than it is for Luka??
I don’t want it to be. Anytime someone draws contact and then subsequently throws up a shot it should be on the floor.
he was in the 2nd one for sure.
When he moves to the right into Dëmin then shoots? He clearly draws the contact and then goes into his shooting motion.
looks to me like the push occurred at the start of the shooting motion in the replay.
“Clearly” lol
Mr.BuckBuck is a gennoacide apologist and should be banned from this sub
If I ever get to a point where I care about the political opinions of a guy who posts highlights on NBA Reddit then just fucking end me
Shut up you nonce
It seems woke up from 3 years of coma just to spit propaganda in different subs
Easy block.
I don’t know what a gennoacide is, but I do know that someone needs to take their meds.
Really? Evidence? Those are very harsh claims
Lmao look at his comment history. Dude defends the IDF and claims its a moral army who did nothing wrong
Also his new obsession with Deni lol