Deandre Ayton on JJ Reddick’s comments about next practice session being an uncomfortable one for the team: “And y’all bought into that?”
Ain’t participAYTON
InsubordinAYTON
Now the drama escalAYTON
I love you guys so much for this.
Man, yall believe the coach is really hAYTON
But let’s be real it’s just a tough situAYTON
WHY IS EVERYONE MAKING IT SO FRUSTRayton
Cause yall just regurgitayton the same joke.
Sounds to me like you find all this nauseAyton
What’s up guys? I just finished masturbAYTON
Man, you missed a great conversAYTON
OOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHATS UP WITH THAT!?
WHATS UP WITH THAT!
And churlish!
There it is! Took awhile to get there… but I knew it’d be here! 🤣
It’s winter so he’s hibernAYTON
Don’t be hAYTON
No need for no hAYTONation, Laker Nation in LeDancery
He damn sure ain’t celebrAYTON
Maybe he just upset bc when he walks he overpronAYTON
Nah he’s really upset bc he’s chronically constipAYTON
Needs a little more hydrAYTON
Yeah but the Suns did him dirty, remember?
Does anyone think that? You gave him a bucket of money
It’s a very common part of the nba reddit discourse anytime Ayton plays well.
Ayton’s only a few notches above Ben Simmons.
Ask all of Lakerdumb
Bruh it isn’t even just Lakers fans on here saying we did that. There have been so many people saying we scapegoated him after he started playing well this season.
It was actually everywhere lol
Lol that’s actually the first time I’ve seen that play on his name
That what?! Finish your thought. We’re wAyton!
JJ: Are you guys ready to run some laps
Team: No
JJ: Okay bet
Maybe it’s going to be uncomfortable because of the awkward silence
JJ legit has to have one of the hardest coaching jobs in the league right now. First off, it’s the Lakers, which speaks for itself. Then you have TWO generational players, one at the tail end of their career and the other who has basically never played defense. I know Ayton has a rep for being lazy (earned), but honestly he’s not the main problem here. JJ was a good player and looks like he could be a good coach, but do y’all really think he’s yelling at LeBron or Luka at practice? Whoever Luka is guarding every night basically has a free pass into the paint and he is constantly getting hunted by the rest of the team. LeBron can still d-up if/when the mood strikes him, but not for 30+ minutes a game for a whole season.
Next time you watch a Lakers game, pay attention to Ayton. He’s constantly having to help on defense, which lends to him being out of position a lot and hampers his ability to defend his own assignment and get rebounds.
I think when he tries to he does a satisfactory job. Then he gets gets torched on a possession or two and says fuck this now I need to get a few buckets. Then all his energy is on scoring and he didn’t care about defense anymore.
It’s pretty simple
How else are you going to do your job without getting selfish for a few plays?
He spends most of his time helping and rotating because other players aren’t doing their job on defense.
At some point, you get sick of doing other people’s jobs, especially when they get zero actual blame from management for what they don’t do.
Exactly! It’ll be frustrating lol. Because you’d still get yelled at for not doing your job that well even though you’ve been covering for others, it’s a lose lose situation.
Luka is playing defense like he has been in the league for 22 years and has accomplished all there is to accomplish. Lebron I can understand but someone who is on their prime should not be playing defense like a 42 year old Vince Carter
I guess r/nba failed to inform you that Luka once made the Finals and is therefore immune to all criticism. Shut this hating down. Luka literally made the Finals and won a game. Nobody else in the NBA has done that.
I mean 22 Dubs finished off the Mavs by attacking Luka every possession. Teams have known this for years
Media is just hyping up lakers drama as always he isn’t under real scrutiny. This team is coasting to the playoffs and if something happens great. If not no one is going to be upset about it. They arent expected to actually contend with this roster. They are the 4th seed in the west and 19-10 with the 6th best record in the NBA. You’d think they were a lottery team with the way people have been talking about them this week.
It seems like reddick enjoys the drama and stirring the pot tho. Thats how aytons response comes off to me. Media is eating up what reddick is saying always.
JJ needs to coach a younger team or be in college. LeBron is only 6 months youner than Redick and a lot more accomplished. There’s no barking at him. Maybe he COULD with Luka, but having LeBron there setting the tone of “I do what I want” is only going to fuel star players’ egos.
Redick is a peer in the era of a “players league,” so he isn’t in a position to be a hard-nosed coach. He’s not accomplished as a coach, and certainly not to be the rare exception of coaches who can push on veterans and stars becuase they have their own clout to respect.
Ayton is also prone to quitting on defense if he doesn’t get enough looks on offense. So you have to feed LeBron and Luka, but also make sure that Ayton is getting the ball enough to keep from quitting on the court.
yea i feel we wont see JJ really get into his coaching bag until he’s with a young/upcoming team. if it doesnt work out in LA him in brooklyn would be perfect
dont need him in brooklyn LMAO jordi is the best coach the nets have had in my lifetime, we good off that
The only problem with Jordi is that he’s a good coach when everyone thinks we should be tanking.
I used to wonder why the Mavs big men were always in foul trouble, then I realized that Luka was a turnstile. He believes “I’ll just score back”.
Thats how I always picture professional athletes responding to coaches lol
It’s really just the NBA. NFL players actually respect their coaches (the good ones)
While I MOSTLY agree, I feel the need to point out that’s at least partially in large part due to the NFL having less guaranteed contracts and larger rosters. NBA players have far more security.
And it’s not as if elite NFL players can’t get away with more:
Bill Belichick told then-head coach Bill Parcells that Lawrence “LT” Taylor was late to a defensive meeting, and Parcells’ classic response was, “Why the hell did you start without him?”.
Can’t find it written but it’s here
Parcells asked a good question 😅
Coaches in the EU have authority too. Its Really just the nba that Lets the players treat their Coaches like that. If you make comments like that in the youth League here youre getting straight Belt next practice lmao
It definitely depends on the coach too. What someone would get away with with Jj wouldn’t fly with pop or spo.
With Spo they know Riley has his back and will cut or trade their ass if they don’t get in line. Most coaches don’t have that authority with stars.
100% well said. If the front office has the coaches back, then you will see a different attitude. JJ being a recent player doesn’t help either.
Do they treat jj like he’s the Bronny of coaches? I mean he’s way better at his job (relatively speaking) but does his sudden rise to NBA coach affect how the rest of the team thinks about him?
I was thinking that since many of his players played against him not too long ago then that could be a very real factor.
The NBA is a star driven league
That’s such bullshit. NBA players also respect the “good” coaches. I can find you a dozen stories of NFL, MLB, EURO or whatever where players acted the same way to their coaches.
NFL players don’t get fully guaranteed contracts. Coaches do even if they are fired. It’s hard taking orders from someone who means less to the team than you do according to the people who write our checks
Nah good luck doing that to coaches in Europe, you’d probably hear all sorts of insults and get kicked out of the team the next day
In the US we care more for the money than the sport
You’re fooling yourself if you think that’s a US thing only lol. Top 5 football leagues in Europe 100% care more about the money than the sport.
Vini threw tantrum when he got subbed. No serious reprimand from Xabi whatsoever. There was also that time when Madrid’s focus during first Galacticos was making money via Beckham and friendly tour, despite some of their best like R9 being injury prone.
Redditors need to realize US isn’t the only capitalistic country.
While that’s absolutely true, I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. I think it’s a result of coaches being perceived as more replaceable than star players, both in terms of value and because of the CBA (coaches can be fired at any time without salary cap implications).
Its just a basketball thing here. The players have so much more power than in any other sports because they matter more than they system and a single great player can totally make a team and even a single very good player can take that team from good to legit contenders.
You put a mic in Aytons face and he’s nearly guaranteed to say the wrong thing
G:
F: MPJ
F:
C: Ayton
Who else is on this NBA All-Microphone team
Kyrie
The Allied Powers would have to stop a MPJ + Kyrie podcast
If mpj’s a globe guy we can at least sow a lot of discord into their attack routes
The term “globe guy” is fucking hilarious.
Definitely the lead guard on the team. Might have to Jaylen Brown as the other guard
I’m not sure his views have changed but he seems to have figured out what to keep to himself lol. When he started streaming I was ready for weekly statements that would get him in some hot water lol
Ant for sure.
Ant sort of, he says the wrong thing but it’s usually funny and has some semblance of the right idea. Ayton out here in his bathroom mirror practicing how to make his org look as stupid as possible.
Lamelo Ball
Brown over LaMelo IMO
Gotta have Rudy Gobert for his Covid moment
I know it’s been said by many, many other people… and many, many other times…
But that idiotic move followed by him actually getting the Rona probably helped to save thousands of lives by proving it was a real thing.
Extremely rare Adam Silver W.
people think it’s just that but he actually is strong anti-vax pro RFK pro elmo. KOC used to have signed rudy jersey on podcast bg because of that
6 man dillon brooks
Nah I don’t think they’re the same. Dillon knows what he’s doing and plays into the controversial comments about other players and teams. He’s at least aware of what he should say but just likes to troll.
Draymond
Draymond is usually fine during interviews at least, it’s on the court or sometimes on his podcast where he goes off the rails
not enough people saying Jaylen Brown
Jaylen is way more calculated with his answers
Kuzma
Kinda sort of. He’s terrible. But he was constantly propping dudes up when he was on the Blazers.
He’s no accountability Ayton.
Interesting. When he was on the suns he always said the right thing but never actually did what he said he needed to do on the floor when it came game time.
Tbh on the suns I feel like ayton was just really self conscious and not confident so he didn’t want to make any waves (on the court or off). I think this would explain why he was so passive.
Now, after being scapegoated and shipped off to the blazers I just don’t think he gives a fuck anymore lol
CP3/Booker and Monty Williams chewed him out constantly, I think he was trying to fall in line in Phoenix. Once he went to Portland and had zero accountability he realized there’s no reason to give a shit, as long as he’s still seven feet tall and shows up for games he’ll keep getting them checks.
He definitely had accountability in Portland and was benched multiple times for effort. I also think he gave a shit. To me, it was that he saw himself as more of a leader, so he was trying to say things that he thought a leader would say. That’s was leads us to infamous comments like dominayton.
He’s a good guy and I genuinely think he cares. He’s just got a motor that can land on any end of the spectrum on any given night and has 0 self-awareness
I don’t think people that haven’t had DA on their team fully realizes just how bad his self-awareness is. In Phoenix he was asked about his lack of motor and he said “I don’t know why people question my motor. I’m DominAyton (yes, the nickname he gave himself). I run on a Tesla battery that’s always charged.” He just doesn’t get it.
Someone had to say something positive around there after yall let the heart and soul of the team go to Milwaukee
I mean he was good when you guys made the finals and only lost game 6 because Giannis decided to go like 18⁄20 from the free throw line lol
Listening to Redicks comments post practice it sounds like the players actually made it uncomfortable for him lol dude is backtracking
Or maybe he realized he made heated comments over a shitty loss and emotions got the best of him who knows really
JJ’s a bit of a hot head. He ranted to a reporter and stormed out of an interview last playoffs after being asked why he didn’t make a substitution for an entire half. He says a lot of shit when he’s upset.
I like how he wants to have a system of accountability but the visible frustration he shows literally all the time is probably not good for him or the players. The Wolves series last year I think the frustration got to him a bit and I feel like it played into doubling down not playing a center despite giving up 30-30 to Gobert
6 bullets. That what Don Nelson used to say a coach has for the entire season. You can fire a shot at your team about 6 times over the course of a year and anything more than that starts just becoming noise. JJ just used what I believe was his second bullet.
Man, Don Nelson is awesome. It’s insane he never got his team to a finals, let alone won one
Top 10 coach imo.
Great quote and comment. True in so many life situations.
The book ‘Showtime’ mentions something similar to this with Pat Riley shortly before he moved on as the Lakers coach.
The Lakers had been in past holes. But they’d never been this divided; this angry; this intent on telling their coach to go to hell. They wanted to win. But did they need to? Did it consume them? No. Riley’s motivational speeches—delivered in high-pitched, desperate tones—fell upon tin ears. All the old themes (Family. Unity. Peripheral distractions) had shriveled and died. Players like Johnson, Worthy, Scott and Thompson were no longer eager kids seeking out guidance. They were hardened and jaded. The rah-rah blatherings failed to take. >Riley didn’t like what was he was seeing. He believed players were done listening to him and no longer sought out his approval. “He’d always say that,” said Bertka. “‘Bill, they’re tired of hearing what I have to say.’” >>“Guys tired of Pat,” said Vitti. “His style is such that you can get burned out on it. Because he keeps tightening that bolt tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter.”
The Lakers had been in past holes. But they’d never been this divided; this angry; this intent on telling their coach to go to hell. They wanted to win. But did they need to? Did it consume them? No. Riley’s motivational speeches—delivered in high-pitched, desperate tones—fell upon tin ears. All the old themes (Family. Unity. Peripheral distractions) had shriveled and died. Players like Johnson, Worthy, Scott and Thompson were no longer eager kids seeking out guidance. They were hardened and jaded. The rah-rah blatherings failed to take.
>Riley didn’t like what was he was seeing. He believed players were done listening to him and no longer sought out his approval. “He’d always say that,” said Bertka. “‘Bill, they’re tired of hearing what I have to say.’”
>>“Guys tired of Pat,” said Vitti. “His style is such that you can get burned out on it. Because he keeps tightening that bolt tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter.”
I know the “lol podcaster to coach” drum has been beaten to death, but the lack of experience really bites him. He needs to learn to control the frustration and channel it into production because he does have a good head on his shoulders and knows his stuff.
I don’t disagree with this, the only thing you can hope for if you want JJ to succeed is the franchise or the NBA coaching world in general gives him a chance to gain experience and that he doesn’t burn himself out by being that intense all the time.
Guy acts like Yosemite Sam. Cannot be good for morale
Hahahah great comparison! Yosemite Sam catching strays.
But if I recall the bugs bunny cartoons that seems apt.
I want to pick up books by one of these coaches to actually understand what happens in a locker room. For example why Mazulla works and his players take him seriously but apparently not JJ etc etc
Mazulla’s scheme is insanely simple. It’s 5 out, hunt the iso mismatch, or pop the 28ft three that’s gonna be open. Defense is just man to man.
In that system, you need high defensive effort. I think he works because he tells his players how to be killer whales or whatever.
The Lakers scheme is way more complex and has a bunch of reads. Like ya that’s probably better against top teams, but if the players don’t get it, they don’t get it.
Let’s not overthink this. The last few years Celtics had Holiday, White, KP, Horford, Brown, Tatum, all plus defenders and would be in any scheme. There’s no scheme that’s going to cover for the Lakers, who trot out lineups with 5 negative defenders on the floor at once
It has nothing to do with the scheme and everything to do with the personality types both franchises look for.
Boston prioritizes players who listen and do what’s best for the team.
Hahaha killer whales made me spit out my coffee
That’s from an actual quote 😂 sam hauser talked about it during the finals against the Mavw
The worst thing is that it might be roster dependent too .
It can be complicated to tell why even if you are inside the locker room
It’s basically like teaching. If you get a roster full of Angels, it’s going to be a good year. But if they don’t want to work, you’re going to end up pulling your hair out trying to get them to.
And some coaches/teachers are great at making Angels thrive, but not great with managing troublemakers. And vice versa.
And just like the school system, coaches don’t get to choose their students.
the question that pissed him off was
“do you think maybe you should let your assistants handle that??”
Lakers are very offensively talented but against physical hustle teams, they lack, it’s why all of their losses haven’t been close.
It’s not physical teams, it’s quick teams. The Lakers are a flawed roster that doesn’t have a single player fast enough to chase guys around the perimeter in their top 6-7. Smart could a few years ago, but not anymore.
The Lakers haven’t drafted any starting quality players for themselves in like 20 years.
The best player drafted by the Lakers who still plays in LA is on the Clippers and it’s Zubac.
The new CBA / Apron rules combined with this new era of faster perimeter 1 on 1 defense doesn’t favor their system of only having like 2 or 3 stars to market.
If they didn’t get Luka for pennies on the dollar in a bogus trade and instead had to either give up Reeves or 2-3 more FRPs they’d be absolutely a tanking bottom feeder rn.
They Lakers actually aren’t that bad at drafting, the issue is the second part of your point which is they never retain anyone because they’d rather manufacture small title window than originally build a larger one
It’s funny that if you look at the last 30 years, outside of some big hits like Bynum and Gasol, their championship window era in the late 90s-2010, they were pretty shit at drafting. Their down years they were much better (easier to hit better talent at the front of a draft)
what has he said post practice? missed it.
The dude is treated like a complete joke by his own players it’s kinda insane to watch
Deandre never buys into anything
He strikes me as a dude who yells at teenagers in cod at 3am when he has an NBA game the next day. Oh wait, that was literally reported lmao
I mean, NBA games start as early as 3pm, so he’s fine.
Mans up at noon and walking into the facility with crust still in his eyes.
Are you under the impression NBA games start at 8am?
Loads of NBA players have very late night schedules, matching their playing and traveling impacts
Athletic trainers should take NBA players directly from the stadium to their homes to tuck them into bed.
Right, I have a severe dislike for Ayton, but I used to work a job that got put at midnight, and you can’t just go to bed right after work.
Should’ve happened to Ousmane Dembélé when he was at Barca smh
I mean it did when he got married, which was under Xavi. He had an amazing season then had his release clause activated thanks to his shitty ass agent
I’m under the impression he is not a serious player.
I agree, but playing video games at 3am, a very normal time for an NBA player, is not the best example lol
That’d be well and all if it wasn’t for DA saying he only gets a couple hours of sleep a day
As opposed to players like lou and harden clubbing and drinking with strippers til 7am in the morning? Nothin wrong with either, since they can sleep in til 3pm and still make it to their 8pm game
LeBron got the inmates running the asylum 😂
LeBob McNair
Holy hell thank you for this.
LeSylum
Always has. Other than Spoelstra Lebron has hand picked every single coach he’s ever had and he’s only picked ones that he knew wouldn’t hold him accountable. It’s the only reason Ty Lue has a head coaching job…
Cleveland Cavaliers (First Stint)
Paul Silas (2003-2005)
Brendan Malone (Interim, 2005)
Mike Brown (2005-2010)
Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra (2010-2014)
Cleveland Cavaliers (Second Stint)
David Blatt (2014-2016)
Tyronn Lue (2016-2018)
Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton (2018-2019)
Frank Vogel (2019-2022)
Darvin Ham (2022-2024)
JJ
Definitely didn’t hand pick every single coach lol people just talk out of their ass
They always pick these threads too when they know they will get stupid upvotes because the narrative is switched now with the Lakers losing a few games
JJ Redick was getting so much glaze before too lmao
It’s the only reason Ty Lue has a head coaching job…
This moronic shit is getting upvoted btw, legit brain dead comment
Ty Lue was the highest paid assistant in NBA history and wanted as a head coach and interviewed by multiple teams including the Knicks who hired Fisher instead of him, i bet that was a great hire
Yeah what are we talking about? Lue was seen as one of the best assistants in league history and was CONSTANTLY in searches and on hot boards. If you take out 18-19, when he was fired after 6 games, he’s never had a losing record and is a .600 career coach
What the fuck are you talking about. Just talking out of your ass.
This sub sucks
LeUnatics running the asylum
How is this on LeBron
This team is doomed
I love it
“I LOVE IT! 🤪” -Anthony Davis
I’m enjoying it as well 🍻
Good
Ayton is a goofy, laid back dude. When the team is doing well, his quotes are funny. When the team is struggling or he underperforms, his quotes sound a lot worse.
After that Finals run with Phoenix, I predicted he would become a big deal in this league. Boy, did I get that wrong.
Not everyone needs to have a mic
I mean, yeah? He’s the coach
Holy shit lol, this dude has air between his ears
There’s a reason he’s got lottery pick talent but is bordering on a minimum contract
Mr Tall for Nothing
See why this guy has bounced around.
Who wouldn’t believe a coach lol
Ayton
🤦🏾♂️does bro not understand how that’s a bad look to basically undermine what your coach said
Especially for a guy hanging in the league by a thread
I feel like these locker interviews are a good opportunity to let the players be more natural and candid but then everyone takes everything they say and turn them into gotcha quotes
What else is to be taken from that quote?
It’s light banter. Just like the Anthony Edward’s quote from yesterday
He’s obviously joking with them.
Ayton doesn’t look like he is going to help anything
The Lakers are a walking clown show
Ayton with the clown hair too
This is a clickbait 13 second clip. The full interview is funnier and full Ayton experience. Not some stupid shot at JJ just him joking around and being weird as usual.
https://youtu.be/gr-SpndsEH0
Thank you for that!
lol LeGM has these cats in a full blown mutiny
It’s funny any negative is blamed on LeBron, any positive on Luka.
Luka ran Carlisle out of Dallas, and Kidd wasn’t too upset about the trade… The guy who bitches and pouts constantly probably isn’t out there setting a tone of respect.
Yeah that’s probably true.
But I can’t make a funny nickname about Luka being the GM
LuGM
(Mavs fan here) Not an Ayton fan by any stretch, but this feels more like him making fun of the media for so quickly jumping on a soundbite.
I’m more convinced because his next comment was I’m not telling y’all anything.
Every video just shows jalen brinson taljin to malika andrews is anyone else having this problem and how do i fix it its been like this for atleast three weeks now ?
jalen brinson taljin
jesus christ
Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago…update the app
They have no respect for JJ as a head coach. They don’t care to be coached. They think they can go out and surf on talent alone.
Coaching guys and managing egos are two different things and I think JJ is realizing that in real time.
It’s the lakers baby
I wouldn’t either JJ rarely takes accountability and throws players under the bus.
Throwback to when a reporter questioned him about playing the starters the entire second half vs Minnesota and Redick just storms out like a child
I will enjoy the Lakers downfall throughout the rest of the season
cant believe the laker fans thought ayton was gonna work.
How is he not working?
JJ lost the locker room. That fake tough guy persona everyone can see right through
Don’t care for Gilbert Arenas podcast but Kenyon had a good point, they view JJ as a peer not as an authority figure. I think we’re gonna stop seeing recently retired players as hires soon
What’s a real tough guy then? I never understood when people said this. Does he have to fight his players?
Just waiting for the day LeBron retires and pelinka starts surrounding luka with bums with that cap space and new ownership realises he’s not a competent GM
Bum.
This guy’s hair… woof
The dynamic between players and coaches suck, let this moron play on a coach less team and see what happens. NBA is full of a bunch of max contract chasers, the competitiveness is slowly dying off.
We are just watching a more expensive version of the Harlem Globetrotters.
JJ is such a fake performative “sicko”
“Practice?”
Typical Lakers drama is heating up