Kwilly462 | Nets

327 | 9 hours ago

The surge in good white NBA players has never been higher

MrFishAndLoaves | Pelicans

154 | 9 hours ago

Yes but also this year it’s specifically American rookies for what feels like the first time in a while.

I feel like it subconsciously is a reason people are hyping this class more. Coop, Kon, Cocoa Jokic, Fears are all ‘merican.

anonymoususer6407 | Rockets

50 | 8 hours ago

Can’t forget Harper & Coward!!

blow_up_the_wacl

11 | 7 hours ago

and Queen!

Alarmed_Article_8709

37 | 7 hours ago

I’m assuming that’s cocoa jokic

rmttw | Supersonics

21 | 6 hours ago

What an ass nickname lol

caulpain | Lakers

25 | 6 hours ago

DQ the ice cream man aka the big easy aka the lousiana purchase.

rmttw | Supersonics

9 | 6 hours ago

All 1000000% better than Cocoa Jokic smh

blow_up_the_wacl

12 | 5 hours ago

cocoa jokic sounds vaguely racist ngl

Giuseppe_exitplan | Magic

9 | 6 hours ago

Kalkbrenner deserves a shout out too

Frostyzwannacomehere | Trail Blazers

10 | 7 hours ago

This subs Christmas fr

Vegetable-Tooth8463 | Hornets

179 | 9 hours ago

A true Christmas present – positive Hornets commentary on the main NBA sub!

Xeris

36 | 9 hours ago

Merry Christmas! I am also a Brandon Miller lover

Vegetable-Tooth8463 | Hornets

4 | 9 hours ago

Thanks man!

Askesl | Nuggets

12 | 7 hours ago

I really like watching the Hornets. Kon, Lamelo and Brandon Miller are all really fun players to watch. The only thing that makes them a bit hard to root for for me is that they still employ Miles Bridges.

applecider42

4 | 6 hours ago

Throw in their announcer as a plus too

s4ntana | TOR

0 | 6 hours ago

Unless you’re a neutral, because he is a bottom 3 commentator if the other team does anything awesome

TheMuleB | Hornets

1 | 21 minutes ago

Wtf are you talking about, one of the best things about him is that he gets hype for other teams plays as well.

StanVanGhandi | Magic

2 | 6 hours ago

Us small market fans always root for you guys.

merckx3697 | Hornets

2 | 6 hours ago

Subscribe

Ellisevanelli | Celtics

122 | 9 hours ago

I doubt Kon gets ROTY with the stat lines & usage Cooper Flagg gets as the season progresses- he’s great though

redditstealsyours | NBA

28 | 9 hours ago

he’s so so good. ive commented this a few times but when i watched duke, he honestly looked like the best player on the court multiple times. pretty cool to see it translate to the next level.

devinbookersuncle | Hornets

18 | 7 hours ago

Kon should with how efficient he is plus they’ll probably have similar stat lines by the end of the season. But the media vote will probably be skewed towards Cooper if you ask me just because thats how they are at times.

Strange_Fault7965

6 | 3 hours ago

Coop is already a great defender right now, which is sometimes not even considered in the ROY voting. He is probably a better defendet than scorer right now, and he’a already a pretty good scorer.

WhoUCuh

-29 | 9 hours ago

Mfer has the same stats but he’s more efficient.

Flagg propaganda has to stop

59435950153 | Mavericks

27 | 9 hours ago

Its gonna be coop. Mavs are finally letting him get the reigns so expect season averages to still rise

WhoUCuh

-20 | 9 hours ago

Kon will win it sorry

someroastedbeef

17 | 9 hours ago

than you can easily 3x your money if you believe that! put your beliefs to use

WhoUCuh

-22 | 9 hours ago

I don’t gamble I have no need for extra money.

someroastedbeef

12 | 9 hours ago

dam okay mr baller!

WhoUCuh

-23 | 8 hours ago

Not even a baller bro. Just smart investment in my business. I didn’t do anything special. Brought a box truck saved money over time. Got a business loan from Chase. Got more box trucks. 5 years later I have 10 box trucks.

No longer have to work my driver’s make my money. Life is good I don’t want for much. 🤝💯

birdlawyer86

12 | 8 hours ago

Sick

WhoUCuh

-9 | 8 hours ago

It’s good money in box trucks. Plenty of videos on YT of people becoming millionaires with a successful operation. I’m not quite there, but that’s not something im chasing tbh.

lotofhotdogs

2 | 9 hours ago

Flagg will win it, but I do think Kon is more deserving

WhoUCuh

1 | 9 hours ago

Damn right.

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

7 | 8 hours ago

Propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂

Coop doesnt need any propaganda to win ROTY. His production is putting him above the rest. You’re the same dude that thinks Dybantsa is a better player than FLagg currently. Just a straight clown you are.

TomatoBuster01 | Warriors

3 | 7 hours ago

Have you watched a min of Cooper??

Ellisevanelli | Celtics

-3 | 9 hours ago

Kon shoots off the catch & Flagg is a shot creator w a rookie as their starting PG

Flagg also plays elite defense (If the Media wasn’t so stingy w giving rookies all defensive selections, Flagg would warrant one of the all defensive spots)

WhoUCuh

11 | 9 hours ago

This is so false lol

Kon has been creating off the dribble as well. You casuals gotta stop creating false narratives.

I get you don’t watch Charlotte, but damn man don’t flat out lie on a player. If you watched him play you would never say something so wrong.

Do better man

dieezus | Timberwolves

14 | 7 hours ago

57% of his twos and 95% of his threes are assisted lmaoo

Coop is at ³⁹⁄₇₈

lotofhotdogs

8 | 9 hours ago

Both these statements are objectively false lmao. You can make a case for who you think is deserving, but when you say 2 inaccurate things I can’t take it seriously

Flagg hasn’t been in the PG role in weeks

Kon is WAY more than a catch and shoot guy right now

Ellisevanelli | Celtics

-6 | 9 hours ago

Kon makes a LOT of his threes that he’s getting a lot of attention for off the C&S

Inside the Arc he’s pretty good at holding his own there but those aren’t parts of his game ppl give him credit for unfortunately

lotofhotdogs

2 | 9 hours ago

Okay? It still doesn’t make sense to act like he’s just a catch and shoot guy, because he really has been doing a bit of everything for Charlotte offensively

anonymoususer6407 | Rockets

68 | 9 hours ago

Kon can’t be ROTY unless he gets a 50/40/90 season. Flagg is gonna get it, but these rookies are seriously balling out of their minds.

WhoUCuh

22 | 9 hours ago

Why does he have to get 50/40/90 to win it?

Like that’s not fair.

anonymoususer6407 | Rockets

61 | 9 hours ago

thats what i mean; the stars are written for Flagg to get it unless Kon somehow pulls some magic out of his ass.

WhoUCuh

-11 | 9 hours ago

You’re basically telling me the NBA is scripted.

If the shoes were flipped and Flagg was this efficient people would be calling him the next Larry Bird.

Kon is clearly doing some historical shit here. I get he plays in a small market, but fair is fair.

xShockmaster

52 | 9 hours ago

It’s not that it’s scripted but awards are insanely narrative based.

WhoUCuh

-1 | 8 hours ago

I agree. The NBA needs to change that. It’s why I hate watching ESPN. They only discuss certain teams and players just to fit their narrative.

KingsElite | Kings

4 | 8 hours ago

The awards are virtually scripted by narrative and no, it’s not remotely fair

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

16 | 8 hours ago

Flagg is winning cause of narrative? No he is gonan win cause he is putting up historic stuff. People in this thread acting like Flagg is only gonna win cause of narrative.

devinbookersuncle | Hornets

2 | 7 hours ago

Nobody is putting Cooper down but the media has also been dying to talk about him and now they can because he is playing like what was hoped.

The issue is while Cooper is having a great season Kon is having a HISTORIC season but we still pretty much only hear about Cooper because thats who the media wants to cover.

Flagged deserves votes but his season has not been nearly as impressive as what Kon has been doing so far just based on efficiency and him already shattering the record for: ●Number of games to 100 3’s. ●3pt% on 3 makes a game minimum. ●Quite possibly being the second best shooter in the league behind Steph based purely on the numbers. ●Being a better connector on the offensive end at setting his teammates up throughout the entire season and not just lately.

I defended Cooper as the clear number one pick on the nbadraft sub last year because those idiots dont seem to understand basketball but what Kon is doing is absolutely unprecedented and yeah I may be a Hornets fan but records being shattered when December was only half-way over basically is absolutely ROTY even if the media is enjoying sucking off Cooper.

Familiar-Menu-6182 | Mavericks

-4 | 6 hours ago

The issue is while Cooper is having a great season Kon is having a HISTORIC season but we still pretty much only hear about Cooper because thats who the media wants to cover.

Media has not covered Flagg all that much but to come out and say Flagg isnt having a historic season either is bullshit. If the media does talk about flagg cant blame them they are more hyped on a 18 year old player compared to a 20 year old.

Flagged deserves votes but his season has not been nearly as impressive as what Kon has been doing

Talk about being delusional.

KingsElite | Kings

-1 | 8 hours ago

I just mean in general, historically it’s not perfectly fair

Southern_Clerk8697

5 | 9 hours ago

All about the narrative

Agreeable_Cattle_691 | Mavericks

20 | 9 hours ago

Flagg has set a record for most points by an 18 year old in history, if they have similar production then he will win it. Kon needs to put himself in the record books

WhoUCuh

17 | 9 hours ago

Kon is the 3rd option on most nights. Flagg is arguably the #1 option.

He honestly should be much better stat wise. Instead they both have similar stats except Kon is way more efficient.

The media will never discuss this tho.

BTW I have seen multiple NBA players flat out say Kon Knueppel is the ROTY so far.

Agreeable_Cattle_691 | Mavericks

29 | 9 hours ago

Flagg takes 14.9 shots a game and Kon takes 14.2, I get it right now it’s a 1A 1B situation but Flagg is on a major rise right now

WhoUCuh

3 | 8 hours ago

I recognize that. I said he’s definitely on Kon’s heels. The problem is Kon hasn’t dropped off a cliff yet. Flagg had to rise. Kon was already at the top. People were calling him ROTY for weeks now. Now that Flagg is finally living up to the hype The NARRATIVE has changed…

Agreeable_Cattle_691 | Mavericks

13 | 8 hours ago

But that’s the thing is that Flagg’s rise has been crazy, Kon is steadily improving as well but in their last 10 games Flagg is at 24-6-4 and Kon is at 21-4-4

WhoUCuh

-1 | 8 hours ago

Bro I’m literally giving him credit for his rise for saying he’s right up there with Kon. I’m giving Kon the slight edge because his play has been consistent. If Kon starts to drop off then I will give the edge to Flagg.

The thing is I watch Kon every game and I don’t see a drop-off coming anytime soon.

I’m a fair minded individual. I’m not punishing Kon because he’s been consistent. The stats are similar the only difference is Kon is much more efficient. He gets the edge so far.

Xeris

7 | 7 hours ago

That’s my post… most efficient rookie season for a volume scorer of all time, better efficiency than Larry Bird. That’s pretty historic lol.

Emergency_Invite7082

1 | 3 hours ago

He needs the round numbers. No one cares about efficiency.

Reinhardtisawesom | Hornets

2 | 5 hours ago

fastest to 100 threes by a country mile is a record

(flagg’s my roty fwiw)

Otherwise-Step-6175

1 | 4 hours ago

To Kon’s credit, being the fastest rookie to hit 100 career threes is equally as incredible

luckymarchad | Pistons

25 | 9 hours ago

Flagg is probably gonna get it because he has the number 1 pick and has been playing insane lately (and will probably continue to do so) but Kon has been so fucking insane that I hope they can share the prize

pagny77 | Rockets

18 | 8 hours ago

Yeah and flagg has been averaging 20/7/4 on 51% since moving to forward, even if he doesnt keep improving he’ll finish the season with a better average than kon

Epicallytossed | Mavericks

15 | 8 hours ago

he’s averaging 26/6/4/1/1 on 61% TS in december

siphillis | Spurs

2 | 4 hours ago

Arguably outdid Wemby’s legendary January run

ZealousCatracho | Mavericks

7 | 8 hours ago

This year has a lot of parallels to Chet vs Wemby. Chet probably deserved early on that season but Wemby just went off the rails. You can already see Flagg have ridiculous games of late and I think he’ll get better. Kon would have easily ran away with it last season.

essosinola | Raptors

5 | 6 hours ago

Any of Kon, Flagg and VJ would have won ROTY last year for sure (and you could make the case for others too). Hell, if the sophomores in the league could compete again for ROTY, I think an actual rookie would still take it this year.

HoopLoop2 | Thunder

6 | 7 hours ago

Why didn’t you mention Flagg as other amazing rookies when he is the front runner for ROTY? Flagg and Kon are putting up the best rookie seasons so far, but Flagg is ahead.

merckx3697 | Hornets

-5 | 6 hours ago

Why is Flagg ahead?

stridered | Suns

10 | 6 hours ago

Much better defense and their offensive numbers aren’t that far apart.

Kettleontherocks

6 | 6 hours ago

I’ve only watched Kon’s highlights, impressive for sure, but how is his defense? I’ve watched a fair amount of Coop and his defense is honestly incredible and I’m not even talking about his potential but I mean right now. He looks like a young AD out there at times.

WhoUCuh

4 | 9 hours ago

ROTY

While I been saying this day 1. I must admit Flagg is definitely on his heels and I could definitely see them splitting the award if both continue to play at a high level.

Kon efficiency is kind of crazy tho. I don’t think people realize he’s giving you the same scoring numbers as Flagg, but he’s much more efficient at scoring.

dlhdbs

4 | 6 hours ago

Doesn’t Flagg defense break the tie with him and Kon?

ArgoMium

4 | 5 hours ago

I will not tolerate Malcolm Brogdon erasure

Tight_Ad2788

3 | 7 hours ago

Think Kon has been the ROTY for the season so far, but probably will get passed by the Coop the way he’s ascending

pichukirby | Knicks

2 | 7 hours ago

This rookie class has been great so far

aguyhasnonamebuddy | Lakers

1 | 9 hours ago

he is having a hell of a season so far but i can’t imagine the voters giving him the nod over flagg or queen

WhoUCuh

18 | 9 hours ago

You clearly haven’t watched Kon at all. Putting Queen over him is laughable.

Like check the stats and the efficiency people. These rookies beneath him including Flagg.

It’s my job to back this kid all season. I was his biggest critique on draft night. He has proved me wrong and he’s been better than I ever expected. I won’t let you people disrespect him by saying the award is already Flagg’s.

King Kon the best rookie and I said what I said. 🎤 drop

Cark_Muban | NBA

1 | 8 hours ago

I remember you didnt even like Kon. You were also trashing Coop all season

WhoUCuh

-1 | 8 hours ago

I literally admitted i didn’t like Kon in this very thread.

Trashed Coop all season?

I said he wasn’t generational. Now that his play has picked up he’s making me look crazy.

Anymore questions?

aguyhasnonamebuddy | Lakers

-1 | 8 hours ago

nothing laughable about it considering my entire opinion that i didn’t really elaborate on is based around a full season of my own expectations for those 3 certain players and not “who is doing better right now” which is clearly kon lol. i very much expect queen to continue to do good and his numbers to continue to rise and the same with flagg/kon. all 3 are having their best month and i expect that to continue for all 3. opinion is also based off of nba voting being dick riders and giving awards to more known names instead of players that deserve it. also nba voters doing weird behind the scenes shit and getting that weird “voter fatigue” bullshit lol. so yes i do expect kon to get overlooked just cause of weird nba voting, not because i think he doesn’t deserve the award. if the season ended today the award is his, lot of season left though

Longjumping-Rub-6756

1 | 9 hours ago

Yes

Decent_Management449

1 | 8 hours ago

I knew he was great @ Duke. Bro stepped up when Flagg was out.

New-Force6746

1 | 8 hours ago

Ah yes there have been 4 incredible rookies.

merckx3697 | Hornets

1 | 6 hours ago

He’s a legit ROTY contender.

denverblazer | Trail Blazers

1 | 4 hours ago

Thanks Magic

Jarxzz | United States

-2 | 8 hours ago

Shooting splits is a very dumb way to measure efficiency

gotchab003

4 | 6 hours ago

But that’s literally what they measure. How would you measure efficiency then?

siphillis | Spurs

1 | 4 hours ago

They’re useless if we don’t factor in volume per split

BlackMilk23 | BOS

0 | 6 hours ago

It’s not when you are comparing players in similar roles and volume.

Kon is having one of the most efficient seasons for a rookie ever (for volume shooters/perimeter players)