JJ Redick: “When your margin for error is not super high you need to be very detailed… We didnt do that at all tonight. WE tried zone and they got a layup and open 3. I don’t know why we we’re guarding Mark Williams at the 3 point line”
He’s always gonna speaks his mind and this is what we signed up for. No sugarcoating bs we are just terrible defensively. Nothing else can be said when you give up 100 points before the 3rd quarter ends making Dillon brooks looks like MJ.
Fuck yah love that from a coach
Yeah it works on a winning record cuz its balanced out with players getting props for playing well on wins. Imo if you do it on a losing team, you push the guys into apathy.
If solid constructive criticism pushes guys into apathy, then theyre just not professionals and dont have a winning mentality. Its not like Reddick phrases things in a really harsh way
JJ got that Duke edumacashun. Expect him to always be professional despite being critical, which is what everyone should strive for in a head coach.
Yeah, it’s a tool that you have to understand when to use.
Asshole coaches don’t last long in the player empowerment era
Is he an asshole?
Like Joe Mazzula is definitely hard on the players but never really criticizes them in the media. Really no reason to say this in interview. Like should this be said to the players yes, but why say this to the media.
*Coaches don’t last long in professional sports.
Did you guys try paying them more and see if they motivate?
Reddit always make it seem like money is the issue lol
Watching this sudden turn on JJ is hilarious. Y’all are such drama queens.
Ikr I’m confused, the Lakers are 19-9 people are overreacting so bad in this thread
Yeah what. Lakers will be overjoyed to end the season as the 4 seed, why is everyone acting like JJ and the whole team sucks
“Fans” think this roster is championship contenders if we make 1 or 2 trades and also think we should spend every asset available. Haters love seeing the lakers lose and focus on that while ignoring they’ve been a decent middling team.
We’re a mid team
You have a mid roster
For real. The roster is so flawed
I would love for my team to be a 19-9 “mid” team.
Their record is better than their point differential suggests.
Luka can make any mid team a playoff contender
Yeah not because of coaching tho
It’s a mix of people who don’t like the Lakers piling on when they lose and Lakers being kind of decent this season, which always brings back the most dramatic Lakers fans. People are saying stuff like they’re in rebuild or they’re going to be lucky to make the playoffs, and it’s somehow actually getting upvotes.
I mean fans do this everyone knew defense would be an issue. People were expecting them finish around 6th~ and get to 50 wins. They have been overachieving and had a couple bad games against some bad match-ups. If I was Laker fan i would feeling ok about how the season has gone so far
because we saw them eat belt in the playoffs despite having a good record
5-5 since LeBron returned….
Should be very expected. Bringing in a player that had 0 time to practice with the team and figure out how they would play (mostly defense). Also a tougher part of the schedule
a tougher part of the schedule? they’ve played the jazz, clippers, suns twice, and pelicans and mavericks. they brought him back when they did because 6 of the ten games were against teams that are tanking.
Those teams are all tough match ups for the lakers minus the pelicans.
lol if those are all tough matchups your team just isn’t that good
Ya we know lol we’re an average team but have been winning close games thanks to our superstars
This sub is all about drama. Most people posting don’t actually watch the sport.
I watched and the Lakers looked like an unserious basketball team last night. Totally understand why he was pissed, too.
I think there is some brutal regression coming for this team and the funny part is the majority of people saying this are the Lakers fan’s themselves.
We’ve seen it all season. It was more blatant when they were just all goofing off and having a good time. Blowing leads, and getting smoked by actual good teams. This team is not a serious team, and it was the Suns game where we almost lost that I gave up any sliver of hope that we could make a run for a championship
Well the ones who did watch last night saw a completely unserious Lakers team
ding ding ding most these smugs in here just love typing 🥱🥱🤣
Spo literally this year called out Kel’el Ware by name for practice habits that we wouldn’t know without him saying it into a mic but JJ calling out a persistent problem happening on international broadcasts the world can see with him is douchey and a failure as a human being.
Spo has earned the ability to do that from being one of the best coaches ever, JJ hasn’t even coached for two full seasons yet.
I don’t think you earn your right to do anything, there are methods to good coaching. If a player/team needs to be called out they should be called out
That’s a nice thought, but the nba doesn’t work that way. Coaches need to earn their players respect, they don’t automatically get it.
the nba doesn’t work that way
JJ has been in the NBA longer than most people here have been alive. The ego to act like you know this and he doesn’t is wild.
Cause former players garner so much respect, just look at Nash, so incredibly respected at the nets.
So you’re a person who’s so knowledgeable on how the NBA works (and not just some guy on his computer who has to pay to be within 1000 feet of an NBA court) that you’re better at it than Steve Nash, too.
The one thing I like about what you said is not disputing the ego part.
You have to be trolling, no one can be this dense
I mean, in a way I’m not but I also have no respect for what you’re saying so the more this goes the more I’m gunna start heading that direction.
This would be more relevant if he was calling out a long time vet and not Dalton fucking Knecht.
What are coaches supposed to do instead? Be a pushover?
You have to demand respect by being a good coach out of the gate, otherwise you’ve failed as a coach
Some of us have been saying this this whole time. We’ve just been downvoted so you haven’t seen the comments
You won’t believe the number of downvotes I’m eating in r/lakers for being (cautiously) optimistic about the team despite a loss to a scrappy Suns team. People are panicking there when we’re 19-9, Luka wasn’t playing, AR was hurt and rusty, plus the Nuggets, Rockets and OKC all lost in the same night. Lots of overly dramatic people in there lmao. I should’ve followed my own rule and stayed away from that sub after the loss.
We basically have a new team this year, who also happened to be injured for most of the early season, yet we are still 4th seed. It’s inane.
Your team don’t play defense yo. Check my flair, I know a thing or two about this. You absolutely should not be optimistic, unless getting the boot in the first round of the playoffs is your goal.
I mean yes this place is dramatic but he cant keep pouting through press conferences and throwing his team under the bus and expect to keep the locker room.
There are better ways to frame these points publicly and call your guys out privately.
I’ve been calling him over qualified since he was hired. It’s not new
I’m not a big fan of jj, but I don’t think he’s doing a bad job, injuries and your best defenders on the perimeter are Marcus smart and a 40 year old lol
I think he’s regressed a ton in terms of running actual offensive plays. The defense is whatever but the offense is mainly just letting Luka cook. That’s probably mainly a Luka issue because he can’t play off ball but still it’s concerning
People have (rightfully) given Jason Kidd an incredible amount of grief for never running plays at the end of games, but this happening on a second team starts to make one wonder if it’s a feature of Luka not a bug
You are assuming Kidd is running plays at the end of games now Luka is gone.
Goes to show how many people have watched the Mavs this season at the end of games, close game with 5 minutes to go is give the ball to Flagg and let him work. If he gets doubled then get the ball to AD and let him work
People don’t watch basketball here silly
For real. No team is running plays at the end of games. It’s just get to your best player’s shot and if the other team overcompensates two passes and you get an open three.
Kidd is not running plays at the end of his games still tho. Also jj admited if you have someone like Luka on your team you need to play around him. Also Luka has played with ball handlers and it were one of his most successful years( kyrie and brunson)
The thing is with JJ is we saw him run a real offense before Luka showed up. The lakers offense had a lot of movement and AD was thriving in it. It’s completely changed since the trade
An offense for Luka is going to be different than an offense for AD. Especially considering that the Lakers don’t have much in the way of secondary play-makers outside of their big 3. The solution isn’t to go back to that it’s to figure out how to get more 2 man game with Luka-LeBron, Luka-Reaves and Reaves-LeBron then letting the 3rd star eat off the attention that provides. We have seen a bit of that this season. Not as much as you’d like though. It doesn’t help that their 3pt shooting has been bad to start.
I mean, its definitely a feature. Luka running the offense has proven its good enough to make the finals, you just need to provide shooting and defense. Luka iso vs running plays is going to come up Luka iso is more valueable.
I think it’s worth giving JJ a pass for a couple more games considering LeBron, Luka and AR didn’t have a camp together and we are still only a couple games into all 3 them being present and playing they have also been trying to get AR to be 2nd guy and trying to find spots for LeBron to fit into all of that. They have also had some awful shooting luck from 2 of those guys. I think mid way through the season the offense should losen up a bit for them the defense though……
Offense is fine honestly, I could care less about offense when we have the worst defense in the league.
Why do you care so much for their offense when their defense so bad?
I care about the offense because I think it results in certain players losing interest in defense when they don’t touch the ball. Rui is a prime example of someone who looks like he loses interest when he doesn’t get touches
It might just turn out that heliocentric luka team has a ceiling on it
Making it to Finals with just 1 other borderline All-Star and just role players is a pretty good ceiling tbh
His best perimeter defender is a guy he rarely plays… which is a bit of a problem.
Roster isn’t great- especially defensively- but the Lakers have the worst defensive rating of all the non-tanking teams. Plenty of criticism to go around, starting with the guy who loves to criticize everyone else.
I seriously don’t know what you guys expect, truly. Reaves and Luka are horrible together defensively and there’s only so much DA can do if guys can just get by Reaves/Luka at will
They’ve got 3 starters with 0 defensive motor. It was never going to end well. Refs are the unanimous 6th man of the year for this team keeping them afloat.
Vando has regressed A LOT over the past 2 years as a defender. And definitely top 5 worst offensive players in the league.
I’m guessing he must have told the player(s) multiple times and this is also supposed to be some basic info already so he’s finally just beyond fed up.
Some people honestly just don’t give a fuck about learning and improving even if it benefits your group and/or you get paid for it. I can relate and they always have some excuses
The available Lakers personnel could have been playing 110% locked-in playoff mode and they still would have lost by 12. There’s so much incredible offensive talent/shotmaking skills/speed/athleticism in the league right now. If you don’t have at least two defensive stoppers on the floor, you’re gonna get torched.
I mean. This is their job. You should have knowledge of the scouting reports
There are dog fuckers in every occupation regardless of pay.
JJ is so much better than almost every coach we’ve had outside of Vogel since Phil left. I’ll ride with him for the next couple of seasons to see how he grows before I try and crucify him.
#HAMAS GOT YALL WAY FARTHER GAVE THE CHAMPS THEIR TOUGHEST TEST ANT WENT BTA ON WONDERBREAD BUT HE GOT THAT WHITE PRIVILEGE PLOT ARMOR SO AINT NO ONE CALLIN FOR HIS HEAD😂😂😂😂
Why in all caps? You trolling bringing up Darvin ham. Maybe your team should hire him.
#ACCESSIBILITY
Oh my bad lol. It felt aggressive at first 😂
Why are you yelling?
#ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE I HAVE TO WRITE LIKE THIS TO SEE AND I USE A VOICE APP TO SEE OTHER COMMENTS
THEY GOT THERE IN SPITE OF HIM NOT BECAUSE OF DARVIN HAMAS
24th defense in the league the playoffs are gona be brutal for the Lakers
We’ll just score more then the other team
/s
JJ always gonna talk his shit. That’s why people respect him.
If anyone knows this to be true it’s jj redick based on his own experience as a defender in the nba
Mark Williams is well known 3 point shooter. Why is this even a question?
Ham at least made the conference finals. And didn’t have Luka
How is he any better than Darvin Ham??
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Yep here comes more braindead takes from “Laker fans” after a few losses where we’re riddled with injuries. Love to see it
JJ’s biggest weakness seems to be not recognizing which of his players are dumb as fuck.
Maybe you should coach better JJ
Maybe it’s the coaching JJ.
I like how much JJ cares, but I do think he needs to control his emotions during and after games better
why should he? if he’s speaking facts why shouldnt he speak his mind?
Because publicly airing out grievances on your players is how you lose the locker room fast. How does this help the team in any way?
Kerr called out players for years and the Warriors have been successful. Jackson did the same. Riley as well.
There is nothing wrong with calling out players, if it’s correct and truthful. Especially when it relates to roleplayers
Ask Phil Jackson
if they cry about valid criticism they deserve to be traded anyways.
Sounds like a coaching problem
“These guys don’t know how to play. Who tf was their coach?”
Much easier praising todays NBA as a podcaster. Besides the money, no way he doesnt regret waiting a few more seasons before becoming a coach
Did JJ ever have any prior coaching experience or was he hired purely based on all the shit he used to talk on First Take? Lmao
We’ve gone full circle with the jj takes Jesus
He was volunteer head coach of the 4th grade boys team at the Brooklyn Basketball Academy 23-24.
JJ knew the NBA has the same amount of travels not being called as the 4th grade
Hell of a résumé…
Don’t think he has any nba level coaching experience before the hire
I feel like he is way too harsh on the players in public
They gotta be. Especially when the defensive effort is what it is. Have some pride on that end
Why do you want multi millionaires to be coddled
As a competent coach should be
Players are soft
This makes no sense. Everyone can see they are ass. Why would a head coach sugar coat it?
Yeah just give them a participation trophy and tell them they must be trying really hard on defense when anyone watching the games can see the lack of effort.
Your team is soft lol yall ain’t touching the real trophy so stay in your lane buddy
Isn’t that the coaches job lol
Coaches can only tell players what to do, it’s up to the players to actually execute
I don’t know why we we’re guarding Mark Williams at the 3 point line”
He’s shooting literally 100% from three this season, great decision on whoever guarded him, JJ is WRONG.
On one total attempt tho
Seriously? Really?
You want Mark Williams taking that 3 if you’re the Lakers
I have no idea why people are taking you seriously. Mark “1 career 3 pointer” Williams should very obviously be guarded at the 3 point line.
Between Vogel, Ham, and now this dude we’ve really had a string of awful head coaching hires in the 2020’s. Depressing.
Are you an idiot? Vogel won a title and jj has had a great start
Vogel had zero clue how to make adjustments or rotations even with a loaded roster. No offensive or defensive schemes. And he didn’t win a title.
Us laker fans don’t claim you if you don’t even know Vogel won a title lmao fake ass fan
Commenting this with a Laker banner is embarrassing
Biggest conspiracy of the last decade lmao, laker fans blaming every one of their problems on coaching
Yeah man I just don’t see how this man is going to be an NBA head coach for an extended period of time.
What a hot take.
Wasn’t trying to give a hot take. Was just giving that good ole opinion that we all got.
My brother you made the sandwich
Didn’t pick the ingredients tho
No
That’s not true at all. Some of these dudes (Dalton, Laravia) have some really low offensive BBIQ
On the defensive end some of these guys are just BAD with effort and positioning
Mmmm BBIQ sandwich
The two stars or “leaders” of the team. While our leader and stars embrace defense and hold the rest of the team accountable for example
Ehh LeBron is arguably the Lakers best defensive starter even now. He’s inarguably one of their top 3 best defenders on the team
His issue is can sometimes be lazy in transition along with contests at the 3 point line.
It speaks to the roster that a 41 year old coming off an injury is one of their best defenders tho
Yea that’s not good
No amount of accountability is going to change Laravia, Reaves and Knecht’s footspeed, athleticism and defensive IQ. Spurs have plenty of athletes and overall solid defensive players outside Wemby and Fox
If only they had a defensive presence down low to help them
AD only masked the issue but didn’t solve it. Good teams have defensive players all throughout their roster and don’t place all the burden on 1 guy
It’s a joke. Lakers are built for LeBron and AD. They need time to build their roster around Luka but LeBron is kinda fudging it up. Gotta wait for him to leave because he demands playing time and like a third of their salary cap
And his three stars are mediocre defenders at best
I wouldn’t count laravia as one of the guys with bad bbiq tbf. Austin got cooked by a g leaguer and other guys are cones. Laravia hustles and gets them extra possessions
He’s got bad offensive BBIQ. He misses cuts, and plays specifically designed for him and he’ll be a half beat slow
It’s part of why he’s hesitating all the time when shooting and seems erratic with the ball in his hands
His defensive positioning is fine, but offensively he’s a mess