Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
Detroit Pistons	30	31	34	15	110
Portland Trail Blazers	26	25	27	24	102

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
Detroit Pistons	110	44-101	43.6%	7-30	23.3%	15-24	62.5%	22	62	28	28	11	8	7
Portland Trail Blazers	102	33-74	44.6%	7-32	21.9%	29-43	67.4%	9	59	21	22	6	18	6


Detroit Pistons	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Ausar Thompson^SF	27:50	18	8-16	0-0	2-4	5	7	12	3	3	0	2	5	11
Tobias Harris^PF	33:00	12	5-14	0-3	2-2	4	0	4	4	1	1	1	1	17
Jalen Duren^C	23:37	26	11-15	0-0	4-6	6	4	10	2	1	2	0	4	16
Duncan Robinson^SG	31:37	15	4-14	3-11	4-6	0	2	2	4	0	0	0	3	2
Cade Cunningham^PG	25:53	14	6-9	1-2	1-2	1	5	6	9	1	0	5	6	11
Jaden Ivey	17:58	11	5-8	1-2	0-0	0	0	0	1	2	0	0	1	-1
Caris LeVert	18:00	0	0-8	0-3	0-0	1	3	4	1	1	1	0	2	10
Isaiah Stewart	20:34	3	1-3	0-1	1-2	2	2	4	0	0	3	0	1	-14
Javonte Green	23:34	6	2-7	1-5	1-2	2	3	5	1	2	0	0	3	-8
Daniss Jenkins	13:49	5	2-7	1-3	0-0	1	0	1	3	0	0	0	2	-8
Paul Reed	04:07	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4
Marcus Sasser	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ronald Holland II	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Isaac Jones	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bobi Klintman	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Chaz Lanier	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wendell Moore Jr.	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tolu Smith	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Portland Trail Blazers	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Kris Murray^SF	27:54	5	2-4	1-3	0-0	0	3	3	0	0	0	0	2	-7
Toumani Camara^PF	29:22	8	3-9	2-6	0-0	1	1	2	0	0	0	3	6	-5
Donovan Clingan^C	33:33	17	6-8	2-2	3-6	5	5	10	2	0	3	0	1	1
Shaedon Sharpe^SG	34:32	25	11-21	1-6	2-3	2	1	3	2	5	0	8	2	-10
Deni Avdija^PG	38:54	18	4-12	1-4	9-15	0	8	8	9	0	1	3	1	-7
Sidy Cissoko	27:01	16	3-8	0-5	10-13	1	2	3	3	1	0	3	3	11
Caleb Love	18:03	5	1-5	0-3	3-4	0	3	3	4	0	0	1	1	-2
Robert Williams III	14:24	8	3-3	0-0	2-2	0	5	5	0	0	1	0	2	-8
Duop Reath	05:39	0	0-2	0-2	0-0	0	1	1	1	0	1	0	2	-12
Rayan Rupert	10:36	0	0-2	0-1	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	-1
Jerami Grant	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Yang Hansen	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jrue Holiday	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Damian Lillard	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Matisse Thybulle	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Javonte Cooke	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Scoot Henderson	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Blake Wesley	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

yeeyee123897

103 | a day ago

I don’t understand how a team that’s offense is to smash the paint somehow loses the free throw battle so often

noend313 | Pistons

73 | a day ago

Neither do we

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

47 | a day ago

We really shot 27 more FGs (39 more 2PTers) and had 19 less FTs, was 20+ before the intentional fouling.

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

-31 | a day ago

Compare the drives not the field goals because those don’t show up on fouls.

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

36 | a day ago

Cissoko averages .9 FTA per game and had 13 tonight come on man.

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

-32 | a day ago

And Detroit fouls more than any other team. Cissoko also never plays as aggressively as he did tonight on offense.

oneandonlyRedSpirit | Suns

25 | a day ago

deni had 15 free throws bro just shut up

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

-13 | a day ago

Shut up? We’re just talking about the game. What’s your problem?

hansenlxh | Trail Blazers

18 | a day ago

Not to say that Deni isn’t a generational foul baiter (he is, its annoying to watch but that’s the NBA these days) but that is sort of ingenuous. Pistons are 4th in FTA per game this year (Blazers are third), its more that their defense plays an aggressive risk-taking style that results in a lot of fouls (Pistons lead the NBA in fouls per game, Blazers are fourth in this category). So its a little disingenuous to pretend like this is the offense not getting to the line enough. Real issue is I think both of our defenses are more often punished for the turnover-forcing risks we take compared to the team we’re trying to emulate (OKC), which gets more lenient whistle-swallowing based upon reputation that our defenders haven’t built up yet.

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

3 | a day ago

Last time the Pistons had more free throw attempts, and it was an ugly game with 64 FTA or more IIRC

comeonmang126 | Pistons

95 | a day ago

Deni Avdija is who casual fans think Shai is. HE GETS SO MANY CALLS HOLY SHIT

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

54 | a day ago

And he gets to scream in the ref’s faces every play without penalty, crazy.

csstew55 | Pistons

21 | a day ago

And the ref will change their mind in his favor no challenge needed.

Bard_Wannabe_ | Pistons

8 | a day ago

I’m still salty about the referee instantly ejecting Ausar a few games ago. Ausar went up to complain (maybe a soft tech), referee starts moving and the two lightly bump. Instantly ejects Ausar there.

Meanwhile other players get free reign to shout in front of the referees.

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

-57 | a day ago

Cade does the freaking same, and I think nearly every player does.

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

39 | a day ago

Cade had 2 FTAs to Deni’s 15, I wonder why he’d be upset? And he also fouled out due to Cissoko’s incessant flopping.

nugentismycenter | Pistons

27 | a day ago

Cade is a superstar and he gets called for techs when he argues like today. Deni is not a superstar but gets treated like he’s prime Wade.

Ambitious-Visual207 | Pistons

17 | a day ago

Yeah except Deni Avdija cries to the refs because hes incapable of beating his man of the dribble, so he just relies on straight line drives to the basket and chucking up a shot.

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

-20 | a day ago

He is fast, he drives A LOT TO THE RIM, and many of the free throws tonight were due to the fact the Pistons were in the penalty, not during a shot attempt, lol.

So context matter, you were in the penalty, like for a long time. He got at least 3 more fouls where he didn’t get to the free throw line.

Cissoko 13 free throw attempts, btw.

P.S: 2 of his free throws were technicals…

comeonmang126 | Pistons

25 | a day ago

How do you think we got into the penalty that quickly? And Cissoko shooting 13 is still gross, but Deni shot MORE. At no point did we intentionally foul either

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

-7 | a day ago

I mean, this is the reason he got many free throws, many of them weren’t related to shooting.

All first 3 fouls, IIRC, were without any free throws.

You got to the penalty pretty quick because you play pretty aggressive on defense.

Last game was also similar, IIRC like 64 free throws if not more (and Pistons had more)

aussierulesisgrouse | Pistons

9 | a day ago

Thanks for the highlights but you’re trippin Buck

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

2 | a day ago

It’s okay to disagree with one another, I take it with love.

Let’s not forget we’re all here together for basketball/NBA, and disagreements about calls and NBA-related stuff will eventually happen. So I’m okay with that.

You’re welcome.

myhellcatgotRepod | Hawks

88 | a day ago

Why does Deni Avdija cry all game for free throws if he’s just gonna miss them

Crafty_Substance_954 | Pistons

38 | a day ago

He just needs the volume to make up for his shooting

Zealousideal-Cold246 | Toronto Huskies

16 | a day ago

Every other thread blazers fans come in and claim X team fouls more than any other team that’s why Deni gets so many FTs lmao it’s actually funny to read

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

0 | 18 hours ago

“We just drive and attack the rim more too!” they say to the team that is 2nd in the NBA in points in the paint who’s entire offense is predicated on attacking the rim.

Professional-Pen2928 | Australia

86 | a day ago

There’s been a 2 week stretch where Pistons decided that their 20ppg centre who has looked good putting the ball on the floor and beating opponents off the dribble should stop putting the ball on the floor and beating opponents off the dribble.

Idk about you guys but he looks pretty good doing it maybe he should do it more.

Vwall1 | DET

7 | a day ago

The only problem is they game plan for that and if he puts the ball on the floor they usually double team him and it really trips him up and he tends to turn it over. But if you get him 1v1 he’s cooking

HessiPullUpJimbo | Mavericks

4 | a day ago

Imo they should continue giving him reps trying to figure out how to beat the doubles. Obviously he’ll struggle and y’all might lose a couple games because of it but I doubt you’ll drop out of the 1 seed and it would be huge for his development

drgreenair

2 | 9 hours ago

That’s most big guys minus Jokic. Wemby trips up on double more than duren if you ask me

Extra-Artist3016

2 | 19 hours ago

Duren was cooking early then they just completely stopped feeding him, made no sense

The guy was automatic in the paint and then they decided to iso Cade into 6 fouls instead

Pinpre90 | Thunder

84 | a day ago

18 points on 15 FTA is actual basketball terrorism.

KnowledgeUseful6731 | Thunder

43 | a day ago

Deni is averaging more FTA per game than Shai and 7 less points per game lol

TopHatTony11 | Pistons

16 | a day ago

Deni also plays the fourth quarter.

Leroy--Brown

-27 | a day ago

Deni also genuinely drives for shots in the paint, he doesn’t just push off then flop

lmaoooyikes | Thunder

22 | a day ago

Deni also is significantly worse at basketball and is much more of a free throw merchant (30.6% of his points are from free throws lol)

Leroy--Brown

-16 | a day ago

You don’t need the flair man, you don’t need to rock it. All of y’all stans don’t need it, people can tell by how hard you ride SGAs dick

lmaoooyikes | Thunder

13 | a day ago

brother you’re the one too scared to even have your flair

also zip it up once you’re done gobbling Avdija’s meat lol nothing’s going to change the fact that Deni is the biggest FT merchant rn

Leroy--Brown

-10 | a day ago

Dude SGA has the second highest fta per game lololol. Every time you call someone a free throw merchant, remember that every accusation is a projection. You’re at the top of that list too, and everyone knows it

Y’all are just salty that Portland beat you first with half our starters injured.

Edit: oops he has the 3rd most per game, and Deni has the second most….. Wow they’re so wildly different

lmaoooyikes | Thunder

6 | a day ago

hey buddy, look at what nba.com says, the guy you can’t stop deepthroating is actually 2nd in FTA LMAO again nearly a third of Deni’s points are from FTs

yeah keep coping by saying im just salty because we lose to you guys once. My team just won a championship and has the MVP/Finals MVP, im so upset LOL

Leroy--Brown

-2 | a day ago

I’m fully aware Deni creates free throw opportunities. Are you aware that SGA is a flopper that creates free throw opportunities? Has this ….. Idea… appeared in your head?

Fuckwit

9.7 per game. SGA right under him at 9.5 per game lol

CharacterPatience416 | Lakers

-2 | a day ago

Nobody mentions it cause he’s a bum

AroundNdowN | Pistons

10 | a day ago

Shout out to him for trying to convert a couple field goals tonight.

20815147 | Warriors

0 | a day ago

Shai at least made his shots

Prudent_Zombie_2692 | Pistons

84 | a day ago

Jalen Duren is an all star

I can’t stand Deni awful to watch. Love Clingan though.

DavramLocke | Pistons

19 | a day ago

His left hand hook is so fucking smooth.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

14 | a day ago

Yeah dude had a fantastic night against 2 good bings in Clingan and Rob

Prudent_Zombie_2692 | Pistons

12 | a day ago

Clingan is great too, awesome rim protector

d11dd11d | Pistons

8 | a day ago

Love clingans game. Yall got some great centers

rawchess | Minneapolis Lakers

7 | a day ago

Duren is Orlando Shaq meets prime Dwight bruh

Dude might end up being the best big from his class

LordOfLimbos | Pistons

14 | a day ago

Lol he is definitely not, but it feels like it sometimes. He might have the best combination of power and touch at the five spot in the nba right now

Arr0wmanc3r | POR

3 | a day ago

Realistically his only competition right now is Chet.

AroundNdowN | Pistons

5 | a day ago

He breaks out some Hakeem from time to time as well.

Not on defense tho

EatBootyLoveLife | Trail Blazers

6 | a day ago

he’s a lot more fun when he’s actually hitting his shots so he doesn’t have to rely on the drive and pray game

Prudent_Zombie_2692 | Pistons

13 | a day ago

I don’t know how he didn’t get at least a tech for the way he rushed the refs and abused them repeatedly

EatBootyLoveLife | Trail Blazers

9 | a day ago

i love him but he really needs to chill on the whining. That being said it’s kinda an essential part of being a star so it needs to stay a bit, just way less

hamietao | Pistons

0 | a day ago

Should’ve put Yang in instead of deni lol

Grlions91 | Pistons

78 | a day ago

I hate this NBA product man. Doubled up the opposing team’s FT attempts and STILL bitching about fouls. Corny as hell.

Efirational

-8 | a day ago

Comparing FT is such a brain dead take. Pistons were fouling like crazy. The rule isn’t both teams should get the same amount of FT no matter what happens in the game.

Yall complaining about FT but no one ever post videos of Deni flopping, like it happens every game with Shae.

Grlions91 | Pistons

12 | a day ago

The rule isn’t both teams should get the same amount of FT no matter what happens in the game.

Never said it was. What I said was your team is filled with chickenshit little whiners. Now hold that L like a good little boy.

TubbzMcGee | Trail Blazers

-30 | a day ago

Name a team that doesn’t bitch about fouls.

TysonsSmokingPartner | Nuggets

27 | a day ago

Name a team that bitches THAT MUCH

oneandonlyRedSpirit | Suns

16 | a day ago

DENI IS ON YOUR TEAM. YOU ARE MORE SHAMELESS THAN OKC FANS

Grlions91 | Pistons

4 | a day ago

What I don’t know is if I can name a player that bitches more about fouls than Deni.

MattPatriciasFUPA | Pistons

61 | a day ago

Absolutely disgusting brand of basketball from Portland. Flopping Cade and Ausar into foul trouble while flopping their way to over 40 FTs while Avdija spends all game yelling in the refs faces which is apparently legal for him but Cade and JB both get techs for it. Cissoko and Avdija combining for more FTs than the entire Pistons team is wild.

LunchThreatener | Pistons

37 | a day ago

The fact they didn’t T him up for yelling in the ref’s face like that was crazy

Braddbob03 | Pistons

17 | a day ago

Not only that he then pointed his fucking finger in his face and still didn’t get a T. Cade got one for throwing the ball at the hoop after his foul out.

Broski26of25 | Spain

11 | a day ago

It’s such a weird experience watching Steph and Deni on the same night. You can murder one guy and the other guy can do no wrong.

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34 | a day ago

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AZ_Doherty | Trail Blazers

-14 | a day ago

Original comment, definitely haven’t seen this one every post game thread after blazer games

TubbzMcGee | Trail Blazers

-16 | a day ago

Very original

Cairne_Bloodhoof | Pistons

-11 | a day ago

The amount of blatant xenophobia in Avdija discussion is jaw-dropping.

Expensive-Caramel537

3 | a day ago

It’s not xenophobia lmfao

daytwatone

1 | a day ago

It’s not xenophobia. Go read a book.

TubbzMcGee | Trail Blazers

1 | a day ago

r/nba mods condone it

They let all the Deni threads fester

DavramLocke | Pistons

19 | a day ago

Don’t forget missing a shit ton of those free throws. Don’t put on the show if you can’t hit it at the line.

SomeAntha90 | Pistons

11 | a day ago

They’re literally OKC but bad

EatBootyLoveLife | Trail Blazers

9 | a day ago

it’s the only way we have a chance to win with no pg and no shooting lol

sleepy416 | Raptors

1 | a day ago

If that’s what it takes your team to win, you don’t deserve to win. It’s a mockery of the game

Motor-Platform-200

5 | a day ago

they aren’t winning so that adds up

AZ_Doherty | Trail Blazers

-8 | a day ago

The deni yelling in the face was kinda wild he got away with it, but he ended up being right in the replay so maybe thats why the refs gave him a longer leash, like they knew they were wrong idk who knows

The piston ones though were a little different, JB got his because he walked all the way down the court to complain when hes not supposed to cross half court. And Cades was just from how long he pressed the issue, he got mad at Cissoko hanging on the rim and complained all the way down the court and kept complaining after he didn’t get a whistle so im assuming he just maxed out the refs patience.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

-19 | a day ago

lets see the flops. drawing contact with an undisciplined defender isn’t flopping btw. Ya’ll are right there with Utah when it comes to most fouls in the NBA but who’s counting

Efirational

-8 | a day ago

They won’t post the flops, they only lie and downvote.

d11dd11d | Pistons

62 | a day ago

Generational free throw shooting by both teams

comeonmang126 | Pistons

39 | a day ago

They almost missed as many as we made. Genuinely terrorism on the eyes

zebrainatux | Knicks

15 | a day ago

Enough bricks to build a house

TopHatTony11 | Pistons

13 | a day ago

Deni is now complaining the house doesn’t have a third bedroom.

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

12 | a day ago

Missing clutch free throws is part of our identity.

Duskuser | Lakers

5 | a day ago

What the fuck is a free throw 🗣️🗣️🗣️🐎🐎🐎

happehdaze | Pistons

63 | a day ago

If I were a Blazers fan I would be fuming about that jump ball man.

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

44 | a day ago

I am but it’d probably just lead to a turnover or missed free throws. Plus Sidy flopping to get Cade ejected made me feel like karma had to swing back.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

17 | a day ago

It’s fine the fact it was even close at the end was a pleasant surprise

Chandler_Bings | Pistons

10 | a day ago

If I were a Blazers fan I would be ashamed that Deni is arguably my best player.

EatBootyLoveLife | Trail Blazers

6 | a day ago

not arguably

TB_016 | Trail Blazers

8 | a day ago

The Blazers broadcast showed one of the assistant coaches screaming about the shot clock being reset.

__get__name | Pistons

6 | a day ago

Pistons broadcast too. Our guys are generally pretty fair on the call

its_nevets | Trail Blazers

6 | a day ago

Im pissed they gave them a new 24 second shot clock. It should have been 0.6 seconds.

YpsitheFlintsider

12 | a day ago

But it was a jump ball

kalebglover | Trail Blazers

5 | a day ago

Jump balls inherit the previous shot clock plenty of times.

its_nevets | Trail Blazers

19 | a day ago

I just looked up the rule. It unfortunately was the right call. Shot clock only stays when its a jump ball as a result of a tieup. Anything else and its a new 24 seconds. I was wrong

kalebglover | Trail Blazers

4 | a day ago

That honestly just feels like that should be changed. It’s basically an inadvertent whistle and they get not just 14, but a brand new 24 out of it.

Crafty_Substance_954 | Pistons

4 | a day ago

The reason was 24 and not the 14 was because the refs blew the whistle while the ball was in the air and thus cannot award imminent possession because the whistle was the dead ball point.

They ended that sequence with neither team having possession so when the jump ball happens it’s treated as a whole new possession.

its_nevets | Trail Blazers

1 | a day ago

It shouldnt have even been a jump ball. DC had the ball in his fucking hands. how they dont make that call is crazy.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

2 | a day ago

that we are lmao

Leroy--Brown

1 | a day ago

I was pissed about it for sure. But at the end of the day you guys outplayed us. We both play scrappy physical ball… You guys shoot better.

Honestly it was kinda fun watching another team that rebounds as well as us. gg

ProfessionalBall9621 | Pistons

54 | a day ago

I genuinely am starting to question if I even like basketball anymore. It’s seriously has become a hard product to watch.

rusty512 | Pistons

13 | a day ago

I ask myself the same thing, I basically only watch Pistons games now watching games is starting to feel like a chore

shalvar_kordi | Pistons

11 | 21 hours ago

You like basketball. You just don’t like the NBA’s unwillingness to legislate the sport properly.

Coleslawwwww14 | Pistons

3 | 20 hours ago

I feel the same way trust me. I’m at the point now where I’ll tune into the fourth quarter if it’s a tight game.

Ambitious-Visual207 | Pistons

42 | a day ago

Fuck Deni Avdija.

Also, holy fuck, all those damn FTs. How the hell did Sidy Cissoko get 13 of them?

MrBuckBuck | Trail Blazers

-11 | a day ago

You were in the penalty… we got plenty of free throws because of that.

Even Cissoko got 13 FTA

ShallowFox4 | Pistons

24 | a day ago

You got in the penalty early every quarter because of your incessant flopping and generational whistle

TopHatTony11 | Pistons

5 | a day ago

The three quick fouls on AT in the first three minutes of the game is crazy.

Remote_Elevator_281

-23 | a day ago

Because y’all hack every damn play lol

Ambitious-Visual207 | Pistons

12 | a day ago

Cry about it and hold this L.

i_like_thingstoo

39 | a day ago

I’m definitely not a pistons fan, but I’m kinda glad they won this game. Portland had an unbelievably favourable whistle, and then watching them complain to the ref’s after every play was really annoying.

Valuable_End_515

35 | a day ago

Gutsy win for the Pistons. Refs did everything to help the blazers.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

-15 | a day ago

I love the idea of the refs trying to help a team from Portland Oregon of all places. Ugly ass game tho tonight can’t lie.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

-21 | a day ago

yeah that clean block that we had to challenge that resulted in “no imminent possession” was really the refs trying to help us. Historically the refs just really love small market Portland, you’re so right.

toadtruck | Trail Blazers

-19 | a day ago

Except call it correctly on the review

EfficiencyFew6864 | Heat

29 | a day ago

Duren and Ausar came in clutch for the Pistons. And Caleb Love continues to show why he doesn’t belong in the league. There has to be a better guard in the G-League for the blazers than this guy

TreeBeard8891

1 | 18 hours ago

It’s driving everyone nuts. We desperately need shooting and ball handling(with all the injured guards)…the G league team has Blake Hinson and Dillon Jones who can provide these things. But we insist on Caleb Love taking up a 2 way spot and getting minutes

csstew55 | Pistons

31 | a day ago

Why doesn’t Avdija get technical fouls?

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

11 | a day ago

I’ve never seen him get that intense. I’m also shocked he didn’t get a tech.

mambamentality29

27 | a day ago

Deni now in the Draymond tier where you can just yell in a ref’s face and not get a technical. Add to that also some egregious foul baiting and you get a player that’s hard to watch

TimeDielation

27 | a day ago

Horribly officiated game. Deni’s brand of basketball is unwatchable. Pistons half court is abysmal without Cade. Ugly game all around

IloveOnePiece119205

27 | a day ago

Deni Avdija is a disgrace to basketball

Chandler_Bings | Pistons

23 | a day ago

YKTPWA

They shouldn’t have

But they did.

With that sweet 23.3% 3 point shooting.

Plenty-Tradition4044 | Bulls

24 | a day ago

My eyes

Sarkin | Pistons

20 | a day ago

Fucked around but didn’t find out shit

YOU KNOW THE PISTONS WON AGAIN

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

13 | a day ago

I had no fun

I had fun

I had no fun again

halfassedjackass | Pistons

15 | a day ago

At least Brunson and Shai are certified buckets. Avdija on the other hand is a genuine basketball terrorist.

Cheyenne______ | Lakers

10 | a day ago

Sharpe lost the game with those 2 last turnovers. Also 8 turnovers total is disgusting.

EatBootyLoveLife | Trail Blazers

6 | a day ago

he’s being asked to do way too much at the moment and even then he lead the team in scoring, can’t be too mad

TB_016 | Trail Blazers

5 | a day ago

One of those games where having a PG would have really helped. Hopefully within the next couple weeks both Jrue and Scoot are on the floor.

halfassedjackass | Pistons

8 | a day ago

JB Bickerstaff not calling a single timeout during that Blazers’ run until the Pistons’ lead got cut to 2 is genuinely brain dead.

Our guys were getting shellshocked while JB sat on his ass and let it happen.

That was disgusting to watch.

kalebglover | Trail Blazers

7 | a day ago

Can’t believe that challenge wound up in a jump ball and not Blazers possession, but goddamn this team is bad at closing out close games. Huge chance to steal a game with Cade out for the clutch and we threw it away

nahbien | Pistons

11 | a day ago

Should of been no call as it was very obviously a clean block, and even so, it was 100% Blazer ball after. Refs were cheeks tonight all over the place.

suicidaltwinkie | Trail Blazers

5 | a day ago

People will always complain about refs, but they’ve legit been the worst I’ve ever seen them this season lol. It’s impressive how many terribly officiated games there’s been this year.

d11dd11d | Pistons

6 | a day ago

Same with us (on closing games). We get a big lead, and I just wait for the inevitable collapse.

kalebglover | Trail Blazers

3 | a day ago

Well not having your best player for the last 9 minutes makes it a bit more reasonable. Can’t speak on other times tho I guess

lonelysadknicksfan | Knicks

4 | a day ago

I don’t understand why the shot clock was reset to 24 there. Ball didn’t hit rim, no change of possession. Essentially gifted a 48 second possession with a minute left in the game

Crafty_Substance_954 | Pistons

3 | a day ago

My understanding is that the rule basically states that their act of calling the foul materially impacted the outcome of the shot and rebound sequence.

Because the whistle occurs on the shot while the ball is in the air, they cannot award imminent possession at all.

Because the whistle occurred and no team had possession, when Detroit won the tip, it is treated like a new possession and a full 24 second shot clock is awarded.

Very strange!

AroundNdowN | Pistons

2 | a day ago

Nobody does. I’d love to hear the explanation for that one.

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7 | a day ago

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eastbeaverton

0 | a day ago

Why is he a piece of human garbage I’ve literally never heard a bad thing about him

pr0ject_84 | Thunder

1 | a day ago

Supports Israel

LordOfLimbos | Pistons

0 | a day ago

Super Israel Zionist lunatic

eastbeaverton

-1 | 19 hours ago

Literally never heard him mention it but keep thinking you have the moral high ground in a situation you know nothing about. The USA and every other country including Palestine have no stones to throw at anyone you can’t help where you are born

LordOfLimbos | Pistons

2 | 19 hours ago

I have several personal ties to the conflict. I promise you I am not misinformed. You just made a bunch of assumptions about me that are false, for some reason.

Also literally do a fucking google search. Deni “stands with Israel no matter what happens”

I understand that you cannot help where you’re born, but you don’t have to align yourself 100% with a government that is objectively causing a lot of unnecessary harm to people who don’t deserve it. You can support your country and be proud of where you’re from without being actively supportive of a genocide.

If you think that that’s me taking the “moral high ground” on a situation I “know nothing about” then I really can’t help you.

eastbeaverton

0 | 15 hours ago

That’s right I do and your bs claims that I know what I’m talking about carry no weight with me. Unless you are literally a half Palestinian half Israeli who lived half your life on each side of the border you can’t possibly understand. You see it from yours he sees it from his and nobody actually knows the truth but a few select politicians on each side. This thread and forum are about basketball. Deni’s play is the topic here not anything else take your politics where it belongs

LordOfLimbos | Pistons

1 | 15 hours ago

That’s all fine and good. I agree with most of it. I think you’re being an ass, but I agree that I can’t possibly know everything. I am adopted so I have very complicated heritage, and it isn’t my job to justify that to you.

Deni says he supports his country and his government no matter what. That’s a fucking issue, and you honestly don’t need to know much to see why that’s not okay. That’s a problem in any context, but especially one in which his country is doing the things they are doing. That’s my only issue. How is that not an issue?

Also, I can talk about whatever the fuck I want to and if you don’t like it you can keep fucking scrolling or apply to be a mod.

Very curious to hear how blindly supporting a government is not an issue to you. Seems pretty damn obvious that that isn’t wise.

Also you didn’t even address the content of what I said! Just why it doesn’t matter, despite it being very logical. Just a big pet peeve of mine.

eastbeaverton

1 | 14 hours ago

Honestly I think about this a lot what if the Native Americans on the reservation near my house started bombing playgrounds and lobbing missiles towards my town. According to your logic they would have every right to do so and be justified and I would be in the wrong for fighting back to protect my family.

The issue is how would a situation like that that you had no responsibility towards creating but had to grow up in your entire life affect your feelings and thoughts. It’s not Denis fault he was born on one side of a terrible situation. Him supporting his side is totally normal and reasonable. I’m sure if you talked to him he would rather have peace but he also would love to go to the supermarket without fear of a suicide bomber.

The fact is neither you nor I have any real solutions or power and this board and thread is about basketball. So no you can’t talk about whatever you want. Vilifying a kid who is supporting the place he was born full of the people he loves is stupid. You are and would do the exact same thing.

For the record I would support any solution that stopped people from firing I think the whole thing is disgusting and pray every day that the people on both sides would realize they are being used for political ends and have peace

LordOfLimbos | Pistons

1 | 13 hours ago

When the fuck did “my logic” say that would be okay? I’m not sure if you are actually reading what I’m saying.

My literal only claim is that you should never fully and blindly support your government. That’s actually literally the only claim I’ve made.

You’re taking arguments other people who support whatever side you think I’m on and applying them to me. That’s where the rub is here. I do not think that would be okay.

Deni has stated that he will support his government under any circumstances. My profession is in mental health, I do have the empathy to understand supporting the place you were born, but you can NEVER do that blindly, summarily, or under any circumstances. That’s what Deni is doing. I’m not going to get into all of the awful things Israel is doing (and that doesn’t mean I’m pro Hamas! I’m not! It isn’t black and white!!!), but Deni has come out in favor of it.

Anybody who fully and unequivocally supports the murder of children is a bad person and deserves to be called out.

I don’t know how many different ways to say this, but I’m not mad at Deni for being from a place and I understand the desire to support that place, but you can never let patriotism blind you to the atrocities that your government is committing.

Two things can be true at once. You can love your country and denounce their actions at the same time. Hell I love my country, and I think they’re doing horrible things. Deni is offering his blind support for whatever they do, and they are doing objectively horrible things.

Please actually read what I said before replying, I think I am being entirely reasonable. I understand what you’re saying and it makes a lot of sense, I just don’t know that you’re getting my point. Please don’t make any assumptions about me from what I may or may not support. I’m just talking about this one of issue of supporting your government no matter what in this specific context, one where that government is murdering children

eastbeaverton

1 | 12 hours ago

lol yeah calling someone a Super Israel Zionist Lunatic is totally rational and in no way biased. Have you done this for any other player in relation to any other conflict.

Also Deni has never even said what you are claiming and I challenge you to provide the quote.

Obviously war is terrible and children during is the worst. But why is it that Israel is the only country that can be attacked and then everyone rushes to condemn them when they defend themselves. I don’t care what the context every war involves suffering. That’s why the Palestinian people given their current circumstances should lay down their arms and seek peace. Not continue in this pointless conflict

There is a saying it’s very cheesy but it’s true. If Israel laid down their weapons they would cease to exist if Palestine did they would live in peace.

You are not being intellectually honest in this and you are clearly intelligent so I can only surmise it’s on purpose because you don’t want to acknowledge where you stand but keep it up with the bs but this is still a board about basketball

nugentismycenter | Pistons

7 | a day ago

Glad I don’t have to see Adjiva again this year again with his cry baby bullshit. I’ve never seen a player scream in the refs face as much as him and not get T’d up. Especially because the Pistons had two techs on them today.

kindofjustalurker | Trail Blazers

7 | a day ago

Genuinely if blazers record was better I think they would be one of the most hated teams in the league right now. Nice to see that they try to claw their way back from deficits but I really wish that if our guys are going to try to get so many calls at least they make their damn free throws

DreadPirateAlan | Trail Blazers

6 | a day ago

Is there any percent chance Cronin trades deni or do I have to watch this terrorism every night forever

ThrowawayNYCJ | Nets

6 | a day ago

Kris Murray is so ass

twonksteam

5 | a day ago

Good job Adam Silver

guffcommander | Pistons

4 | a day ago

that jump ball call was crazy ngl, needed that one

JoJonesy | Celtics

3 | a day ago

a win is a win idk man

ANDRE_DRUMM0ND | DET

4 | a day ago

I feel bad for portland fans. Having to support such a player that foul baits every possession. Will never root for a team like that

eastbeaverton

-12 | a day ago

lol maybe look in the mirror he doesn’t have to foul bait you guys just keep hacking away

ANDRE_DRUMM0ND | DET

1 | a day ago

I’m glad yall have him. Have fun watching his ethical style of play.

RexHuntFansBrazil | Pistons

4 | a day ago

If you don’t like Deni Avdija for serving in the IDF, don’t worry because he also plays the ugliest fucking basketball you’ve ever seen

detroitpiston | Pistons

2 | a day ago

Avdija committed war crimes this game man

Coleslawwwww14 | Pistons

3 | 20 hours ago

Deni is by far the worst watch in the entire nba.

20815147 | Warriors

2 | a day ago

Funniest game of the season so far lol

Renegadeforever2024 | Raptors

1 | a day ago

What a game

toadtruck | Trail Blazers

-1 | a day ago

Fuck that review. Should have been our ball

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

-10 | a day ago

Foul on Deni blocking Tobias Harris and not giving imminent possession to Portland was fucking atrocious refereeing.

As was our free throw shooting. Ugly game, can’t wait to not do it again this season Pistons fans.

Ambitious-Visual207 | Pistons

8 | a day ago

That’s not how challenges work. Because it was called a foul, nobody got the rebound. Therefore it was unclear who had possession (assuming Tobias was not actually fouled, if he was then possession is irrelevant because hed be shooting FTs).

Because of this, a jump ball is used as a way to determine possession.

If Portland had already clearly gained possession during the play (as in like while the whistle was being blown or the ball still seemed in play) they’d have gotten it back.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

1 | a day ago

Not only was it a horrible call, but swallow the fucking whistle until the ball is possessed by someone and then call the fucking foul lmao. It was a dogshit call and you can’t really argue otherwise

hansenlxh | Trail Blazers

1 | a day ago

Nobody got the rebound? It literally fell into Clingan’s hands. And I don’t know the rules well enough (looked online and no explicit answer) but the Blazers coaches were upset that the jump ball at center circle occurred with a freshly reset shot clock. I haven’t been paying enough attention to know if the shotclock should be less than one second or at least 14 seconds when no imminent possession is established, but if it is 24 seconds then that feels like a loophole that needs closing.

No-Ranger3356

5 | a day ago

they did a jump ball because the ball was in the air when the whistle was blown, so both teams stopped playing

hansenlxh | Trail Blazers

-2 | a day ago

I’m not disagreeing with their line of reasoning, just feels unreasonably subjective because I feel like I remember plenty of times a whistle has been blown and imminent possession is still awarded after a rebound long after. Could be wrong though. I just wanted to also point out even if the jump ball is correct, I’m not entirely sure whether the clock should have been fully reset. I know plenty of jump balls where the clock is reset to 14 if the team that had the ball before gets it back, or even back to what the shot clock displayed before the jump. If someone can find the actual rules and the refs followed it to the book, then I’d argue that as is the current rules have some sort of logical inconsistency where we’d have preferred imminent possession belong to the Pistons and they inbound with < 1 second left over what ended up happening in the game.

Crafty_Substance_954 | Pistons

4 | a day ago

It’s not subjective at all because the instant the whistle blows it’s dead ball and you don’t get continuation on rebounds.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

-14 | a day ago

Here comes the salty fans whining about Deni lmao. More of a Giannis type of foul merchant and doesn’t really flop but people are gonna bitch and moan anyways

nugentismycenter | Pistons

18 | a day ago

we literally couldn’t bitch and moan as much as him. It’s impossible.

kazmir_yeet | Trail Blazers

-3 | a day ago

Guy drives a lot and get’s hacked plenty so of course he’s going to want fouls. Welcome to the NBA lmao

mambamentality29

8 | a day ago

Hacked by ghosts maybe

AZ_Doherty | Trail Blazers

-5 | a day ago

Dude will drive into the paint and take every bit of contact and try to get an and 1 over and over, but people will act like hes pump fake, lean in to the defender, flop his head back and fall to the ground or sum shit

Slight_Dragonfruit69 | Pistons

4 | a day ago

Except half the time it’s run full speed at the defender with your shoulder and hope the refs bails you out. That or his low pickup that no one bites on anymore. It sucks when Giannis does it too because a defender gets unfairly punished imo.

pr0ject_84 | Thunder

3 | a day ago

At least Giannis makes his shots

AZ_Doherty | Trail Blazers

1 | a day ago

You mean using his size to (legally) shoulder defenders, the whistle comes when they are to slow and he beats them to the spot, or when they aren’t disciplined and reach in. He’s not even using his forearm like SGA or going full tank mode like Shaq knocking guys back lol he just plays strong and you’re mad about it???

eastbeaverton

0 | a day ago

I dare you to compile a clip of him doing what you describe. While you’re doing it you will find he gets fouled way more than he gets calls

throw_away6453 | Trail Blazers

-14 | a day ago

Smells salty in here…lot of Piston fan tears. You guys won move on.

Chandler_Bings | Pistons

6 | a day ago

It’s fair to point out a cancerous play style when we see it. I mean hell, he’s shooting almost double the number of free throws he shot last year. That means he’s making it a point of emphasis for his game to flop.

throw_away6453 | Trail Blazers

-5 | a day ago

He’s faster, bigger, and stronger than most guys. He drives recklessly hard inside and will blow by you or you have to hack him. Most drives/game in the league. There’s no flopping involved. He does get favorable calls sometimes. But there’s no flopping involved.

It’s the nature of how he needs to be defended. Zero swipe through. No pump fake jumping into defenders.

Bircka | Trail Blazers

-3 | a day ago

Piston fans know more about Deni than us though, they constantly stay up until late to watch Blazer games.

throw_away6453 | Trail Blazers

-4 | a day ago

What’s funny is presumably this guy watched the game and they still thinks there was flopping lol. Dudes just saying buzzwords at this point for the sake of crying.

The Detroit Pistons (23-6) defeat the Portland Trail Blazers (12-17), 110-102, despite an epic 4th quarter collapse with Cade fouling out with over 8 minutes left in the game