Cam Spencer’s last 10 games - 16.⁹⁄₂.⁴⁄₅.2 on .637/.⁶³⁶⁄₁.000 shooting splits (.854 TS%, 19.6 USG%, 147 OffRtg) in 25.6 mpg.

Building an outside case for MIP and 6MOTY (both of which are probably Reed Sheppard’s awards to lose at this point).

Has replaced Luke Kennard on the Grizzlies squad, and is already honestly better (and a more willing shooter) than Kennard ever was. Has also done all this while playing mostly as the backup PG, which is a bit outside of his natural position/role, but may actually be more suitable for him long-term due to his size.

A genuinely lethal shooter who is one of the deadliest marksman in the league right now. Another 2nd Round/undrafted/two-way contract success story for Memphis!

Ssaxena1243 | Thunder

81 | 18 hours ago

How is MIP Reed Sheppards to lose??? He’s not even top 20 in betting odds to win it. He’s also only 4th in betting odds to win 6MOTY

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

-44 | 18 hours ago

I’m talking actual output, not looking at betting odds.

Among non-starters (started less than 50% of their games, played 20 games/480 minutes - 20 players qualified), Sheppard is #1 in WS/48 and BPM, and 2nd in VORP and PER (both behind Josh Hart). Averaging 19.¹⁄₄.⁶⁄₄.⁶⁄₂.³⁄₀.8 per 75 possessions (.594 TS%).

SloshaPacana

48 | 18 hours ago

The people that vote for that do not care about per 75 and just vote on basically ppg

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

-11 | 14 hours ago

Are you trying to predict who the voters will pick, or “stick with convention” or know who to bet on, or just give your own opinion on who you think should win the award?

MaybeaMaking

9 | 17 hours ago

honest to god question, why per 75? i’m probably the dumb one, but i’ve never even heard someone say per 75 before, only per 100

Ok_Respond7928

7 | 17 hours ago

Per 75 is a much more accurate representation of the amount of possession a player actually plays compared to per 100 where everyone looks like a MVP caliber player. The Heat who are number one in pace are at 104.6 and no player is playing in all of those possessions

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

4 | 17 hours ago

Per 75 is a pretty “normal” pace level for starter minutes for an individual player, kind of like a pace-adjusted Per 36 minutes amount. Helps to normalise for variance in pace and minutes between teams and eras.

JKC_due | San Francisco Warriors

56 | 17 hours ago

Spencanity is a MOVEMENT!!!

AashyLarry | MIA

28 | 17 hours ago

You’re missing something about MIP.

MIP essentially never goes to 2nd-year players anymore. It’s an unspoken rule nowadays because a significant jump is expected.

I think the last time it happened was Monta Ellis around 20 years ago (could be I’m forgetting someone though).

Even if Sheppard was in the running — it’s a lot more likely to go to Ryan Rollins at this point in the season. His jump has been MASSIVE, much larger than Sheppards, and he’s in his 4th year.

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

-8 | 14 hours ago

Are you trying to predict who the voters will pick, or “stick with convention” or know who to bet on, or just give your own opinion on who you think should win the award?

AashyLarry | MIA

4 | 14 hours ago

Yeah, predict who will win. So I exclude 2nd years because their chances of winning are almost zero nowadays.

I don’t know if voters will pick Rollins. But looking at his “jump” in terms of numbers, his is the highest.

Another guy who’s had a really high jump is Keyonte George. Another one is Jaime Jaquez.

One thing voters like to do though, is to give MIP to an All-Star level player (someone who’s jump turned them into All-Star level) — which is why Deni Avdija and Jalen Duren may be who win it instead even if their jumps aren’t quite as high.

This is what they did when they gave it to Ja Morant, even though there were multiple players that same year who had “bigger” jumps.

MIP is easily the most difficult award to predict this year, because there’s so many options.

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

2 | 14 hours ago

Fair enough, I just go with who I think might be most deserving in a given year. I don’t even think about the actual voters or past trends or betting odds.

Funny you mention Ja though, as he genuinely had a massive leap in the year he won MIP, and it wasn’t expected or assumed it was just going to happen because of his draft position, either.

AashyLarry | MIA

2 | 14 hours ago

Yeah Morant did have a nice jump, but I remember a lot of people thought his own teammate Desmond Bane deserved it more.

I forgot who the other candidates were that year, but I think there was another player too that people thought was snubbed that year, aside from Bane.

Overall-Palpitation6 | Grizzlies

1 | 14 hours ago

2020-21 Ja
19.¹⁄₄.0/7.4 in 32.6 mpg
5.9 FTA per game
.537 TS%
27.2 USG%
16.7 PER
.074 WS/48

2021-2022 Ja
27.⁴⁄₅.⁷⁄₆.7 in 33.1 mpg
7.3 FTA per game
.575 TS%
33.7 USG%
24.4 PER
.171 WS/48

Ja went from just good to superstar and among the best players in the league, in the space of a year. He did the rare thing of making a massive leap without a big change in minutes or role or moving teams.

The prior MIP winner (another former #2 pick in Julius Randle) didn’t have anywhere the same jump as Ja, yet he was somehow perceived to have made an insane leap and was viewed as fully deserving of his award in comparison to Ja.

AashyLarry | MIA

3 | 14 hours ago

Yeah, this is what I mean when I say they prioritize all star type guys.

That’s why someone like Avdija is more likely to win over Rollins or Sheppard or whoever.

All of them “deserve” it, but it’s not just about who had the biggest jump.

F_CKMONEY | Knicks

17 | 17 hours ago

He’s like Kennard if Kennard wasn’t scared to fuck up his 3P%

KasherH | Nuggets

8 | 17 hours ago

One of them really needs a nickname, the names are too similar to really remember which is which.

boccci-tamagoccci | Jazz

41 | 17 hours ago

body cam and pat down

Thunder-ten-tronckh | Grizzlies

8 | 17 hours ago

Killa Cam! Or Psycho C take your pick.

KasherH | Nuggets

0 | 17 hours ago

OK- I can work with Killa Cam (I do love the Challenge!) and go with Pat down as a bastardized lacrosse term.

AHungryManIAM | Grizzlies

1 | 8 hours ago

Killa Cam and Project Pat

Milly-the-Kid | Timberwolves

3 | 17 hours ago

This is the exact type of player that goes off against the Wolves so I’m glad he’s out today

JustALittleNightcap | Celtics

2 | 12 hours ago

Going for the 50-50-90 club

Disastrous_Bluejay57 | Nuggets

2 | 12 hours ago

Cam ‘The Other One’ Spencer

imslightlyhandsome

1 | 15 hours ago

Holy hellerson

FuckinArrowToTheKnee | Hawks

0 | 14 hours ago

Mods lets ban these made up middle names cause it’s an automatic downvote and block from me

Cam ‘Not Pat’ Spencer’s last 10 games - 16.9⁄2.4⁄5.2 on .637/.636⁄1.000 shooting splits

Cam ‘Not Pat’ Spencer’s last 10 games - 16.⁹⁄₂.⁴⁄₅.2 on .637/.⁶³⁶⁄₁.000 shooting splits