He basically shoved everyone else into the water so he could escape. Like yeah the grass is greener but he deep-sixed the Kings by forcing his way to the Spurs.

More like he was the iceberg. They built around him and he left. They could’ve had hali.

Or take Bagley

They traded Haliburton to appease Fox

One thing was eventually going to be traded, they dealt the wrong one though

That is what’s so sad about the king’s situation at the time! Tyrese haliburton wanted to be a king he was 3 years younger than fox, and I said it at the time It wasn’t about the trade it was the fact that they traded the wrong point guard. To trade the younger guy who wanted to stay and embrace being in Sacramento, then keeping the guy that was a few years older and clearly was looking to leave at that time never made sense.

Don’t get it twisted, the Kings would still be horrible if they kept Halliburton. Tyrese alone doesn’t solve the issues at the top

They made so many mistakes bro. The Hali for Sabonis trade is honestly lower down the list of mistakes. 

Goes wayyyy deeper tbh. They’ve failed to build around their stars for more than a decade. Since Boogie. Such a shame because that crowd gets loud af and deserves a team that’s always in the mix.

Do the Kings have the best collection of guards leaving either by trade or FA in the past 5 years?

Fox, Hali, Davion Mitchell and signs point towards Keon Ellis too.

Imagine Hali and Luka… add a rim running lob threat and some big defensive wings and that’s a dynasty

With this nonstop fog we’ve had for over a month we’re more like Silent Hill

The Fox, sabonis, monk, Murray, Barnes squad was my favorite non spurs team to watch in a long time

We look like a fantasy team that was auto-drafted

Disagree, none of these shots are at the fanbase. The kings made so many mistakes and they deserve the shots. The fans obviously did nothing wrong but he didnt say the fans suck or anything. The only thing the Kings have going for them is a very passionate fan base. 

The Kings chose him over Haliburton. For what reason, I still don’t know

Fox was hurt and his trade value was at an all-time low; they wouldn’t have gotten much if they traded Fox instead of Hali at that time.

With hindsight we know that it was the wrong choice but you could at least semi-rationalize the thought process of the Haliburton trade. Drafting Bagley over Luka will always be a mystery though

He also crypto rug-pulled his fanbase lmao. Generational grifter

He didn’t take any shots at the fanbase. You have to be able to separate your fandom from the front office. Fox had daily interactions with a front office that clearly had no idea how to build around him and stifled his career.

Because Hali and Fox, at the time, both seemed like points gaurds to start structuring around, but Hali was offered a solid trade deal and Fox wasn’t. Now you could say there was a reason for that, but their management clearly didn’t see that at the time.

The Kings chose him over Haliburton.

Rumor is they tried to deal Fox and Pacers said no.

The reason was because fox had no trade value that season. They thought he’d regain value if Halliburton left. They were technically right about that, as fox went on to be an all nba player the following season. 

Ultimately was a bad choice but you couldn’t have traded fox for Sabonis

Based on what? Spurs are playing great and so is he. They’ve played some 3 guard lineups and it looks fine. No reason to think they couldn’t start Fox, Harper, and Castle eventually instead of Fox, Harper, and Vassell.

The “grass is greener” comment is silly to me because he has played all of 34 games with the Spurs now. It’s easy to say that when you’re still in the honeymoon stage.

Not to say he will or won’t enjoy San Antonio long term and continue to feel this way, but I just find it kind of meaningless at the moment.

You saw that the spurs went 9-3 with fox only right. Swear we just beat okc. But keep thinking he is leaving 

Streets will always remember the beam

I am a Rams/Kings fan so at least I have one competent and fun team to root for. Hell, even the 9ers kings fans are eating well!

100% it’s just that this doesn’t need to be said publicly, it’s just looks like a scorned lover shitting on someone that’s trying to figure out their new life.

It’s just that no one else on that team has trade value besides Sabonis but his contract is high enough to where he’s not like…that valuable. Keegan Murray is actually a piece people will want

Nobody thought that at all the reports immediately were that Fox wanted Brown but no one else did and those have appeared to remain true

Everyone was saying that because Fox was checked out at that point and basically blew the Pistons game with a complete mental breakdown fouling a 3 point shooter and giving up 4 points and losing the game. And then giving a complete idgaf press conference after. It was a really bad look

He didn’t want Brown fired but Fox isn’t naive enough to not know that a continually disappointing team on a skid just coming off an embarrassing loss and with a star player mentally checked out may do something drastic and coaches are usually the first to go

Fox isn’t wrong for wanting out but he absolutely has his own hand in everything that happened

Keegan murray has not been mistreated here. We’ve given him a starting role and massive minutes and massive opportunity since day 1. He has no offensive skill set. He wouldn’t start on a ton of teams in this league. His shooting has disappeared and he cant dribble or pass.

Hes basically just a lu dort with a bigger green light. We even gave him a big contract for absolutely no reason. He has been treated great in Sacramento

They also traded him to his preferred destination despite getting crap value. They could have easily been like his current team and traded the star somewhere they didn’t want to go for max value.

Like he’s not totally wrong that the Kings suck, but they always did right by him so he looks kind of like an ass here IMO.

“They didn’t draft Doncic cos of him”

That was because of the front office

Did fox tell the team to do any of that stuff you just mentioned or is it a scenario made up in your head?

It’s not his fault their front office is stupid, he didn’t make these moves.

You mean the guy they passed on because Vlade had issues with Luka’s dad?

It’s so funny watching this thread try to blame most of the Kings failures on Fox, instead of the obvious dogshit ownership/front office. I may not be a Kings fan, but I have lived in Sac for the past 6 years and have followed the Kings closely since. Blaming most of this shit on Fox is silly. Is it really a surprise that a top but not superstar level PG and a big who can’t defend the rim isn’t enough to be a perennial playoff team in the West?

Edit: and even if it is true, if a player tells you not to draft the next Michael Jordan, it’s not the players fault if the front office is stupid enough to listen to them

Fox was a snake during his departure. Domas and Malik both took less money for Fox the summer prior. DeMar signed with the Kings to play with Fox. The Kings fired the coach in order to protect Fox during their losing streak. The team pretty much catered to him only for him to not deliver and bail. Even at the end, the Kings still sent him to his desired destination even though he tanked his trade value and said he would only sign with the Spurs. Like, yeah…the Kings were a bit of a mess, but he wasnt an exception. It was his team, too. He pretty much gave them all the middle finger on his way out and said they were the problem and didnt take any accountability.

This is just not true smh.

They are a Vooch and a Lonzo Ball away from contention!

The irony is that Kings fans probably would do a trade involving Voochie to get off the Sabonis contract.

What’s the reason for him completely turning on you guys? They got fleeced in the trade to get him to where he wanted to go and he’s still talking shit

Why should he take the high road

I feel like the kings are the western bulls. Ya know, with the whole Zach Lavine and Demar combo. 

And you just know the shooting touch will come back once he’s gone 😂

We tried to get the beam in the trade but we’re told it was off limits

Believing in Fox wasn’t a bad decision. He still probably a top 20-25 player in the league imo.

You don’t have to give up Fox to still draft Luka or keep Haliburton.

In fact a backcourt of Luka and Fox seems fucking crazy. Would probably work just like Luka and Brunson or Luka and Reaves