[Highlight] CARUSO CAN’T FINISH AND IT’S A SPURS WIN
Game of the year but they gotta do something about these endings. Shit always goes like this lol
It’s so boring. Doesn’t even feel like basketball in the last minute of close games anymore
Apparently it’s a somewhat controversial take that you should still have to play defense while you’re ahead by 3.
So the other team’s allowed to foul you but you’re not allowed to do it back? I promise I’m not just saying that because my team just benefitted from it, but that just feels like a weird imbalance that favors the team that’s currently down—going into the closing seconds with a lead should be a benefit, not a weakness.
Elam ending kicking in in the last like 2 minutes of a close game could be a good compromise
No, I think it should go both ways. Fouls on the floor should be 1 FTA plus possession in the half court for both teams in the final 2 minutes. If you want the ball back to make a comeback, force a turnover or get a stop.
I agree with making teams play defense too, but what happens when the shot clock’s off and you’re down by one possession? Should the game just end there?
You should steal the ball without fouling.
If you can’t then the other team was better and deserves to end the game by winning.
Couldn’t the ballhandler just turtle and protect the ball?
Defender just has to get their hands in the mix and it would turn into a jump ball relatively quickly
Watching that for 20 seconds is better than stretching out the last minute to take 10
QBs in the NFL can kneel out the clock. I think the losing team having to force a steal to win is fair.
Basically, yes. Team that was behind had 47 minutes and 36 seconds to catch up.
This happens in football. Out of timeouts on defense? Offense can just take a knee and bleed off the clock.
True, I might just be too used to the “teams down in a close game have a chance to win due to this rule” style of play. Might not be the worst thing to just let it play out
Yeah, this is one of those moments where the biggest argument to keeping it is “that’s how it’s always been”, which should automatically make anyone think about it more thoroughly.
The biggest argument is actually that it enables exciting comebacks. It’s the fouling up 3 that has become super problematic in the last 2 or 3 years
Get a steal or try to force an 8 second violation if they’re in the full court.
If you’re down by 1 or 2, maybe consider fouling the guy so they have to inbound it after the free throw. Even if you give up the point it stays a 1 possession game, and you have an opportunity to try to get a turnover on the inbound. At max you can do that twice before it puts you out of reach. 1 free throw takes less time than 2, and having an analytical cap on the number of times you can foul and potentially benefit keeps it moving.
And, frankly, you had at least 47 minutes and 36 seconds to score more points than the other team. Why should you get extra chances, especially at the sacrifice of the end being watchable?
NBA has the least action in a close game in the final minute of all team sports.
NBA and WNBA have the exact same issue with these “get fouled/don’t get fouled/free throws galore” endings. It’s not tension building like the final minutes of an NFL game is. It’s just frustrating and annoying.
Not just professional… all basketball
I had UFC on another screen. With 9 secs left in the game nearly two whole rounds went by in UFC 5 mins per round and 1 min in between lol
Next rule change in nba needs to be penalty free throw when leading and intentionally fouling in last 2 mins of the game
you cant have rules around intentional fouling, there are too many edge cases that would mess it up / impossible to consistently rule on
Yeah, last thing you want is to give the refs another subjective lever for fuckery.
exactly
They already have. The take foul rule
There’s definitely ways to fix it, the NBA just is absolutely not incentivized to do it
I agree but it should be for both teams no matter who is leading. A team that is losing shouldnt have an advantage by having access to a strategy that the other team doesn’t
Free throws and possession maybe?
This stuff happens in all levels of basketball though. The take foul is just a thing.
The biggest surprise is that they didn’t air commercials during the time outs
This was even worse than normal.
Intentional fouls in the final 2 mins: 1 shot and the ball.
Thoughts?
I think it’s just how teams operate nowadays. Rather give up free throws than allow a team to shoot the 3 when the team on defense is leading by 3. It’s not a new rule or anything, it’s a different approach. Whether we like it or not, it’s smart in a way.
Don’t be behind if you can’t make up the points?
Feels like an eternity
Feel like you get an extra free throw if you intentionally foul less than a minute left in the game.
They had to let the over 209.5 win for a game total of 210
Yeah it’s obviously a legit strategy, and can backfire like it did on us last year, but man it sucks to watch.
Non shooting foul in the last 2 minutes of the game should count towards delay of game. So everyone can still do it but they get penalized by 1 FT for every 2x they do it.
Maybe they can change it to leading team cannot intentionally foul
This feels like the bigger problem. It just kills the game lol
They managed the shit out of Wemby’s minutes tonight. Wouldn’t have been as close if he had more minutes from the jump.
It always goes like this because that’s basketball.
Jimmy V ruined basketball
I’m still on team Elam.
Game’s gone, been that way for a while
I know we’ve said this before but holy shit NBA might be the worst sports product to watch the ending of a game. Literal GOTY potential and its a STRUGGLE to watch the last minutes of fouling back and forth
Remove intentional fouls in the final minute and it would cut games by like 10-15 minutes and make them way more exciting
You should have the option to forego the free throws and keep the ball with a new shot clock on non shooting fouls. Basically like declining a penalty in football.
Why would you though if they’re just going to keep fouling you until you make a mistake and turn the ball over? And it wouldn’t speed up end of the games at all
A rule change like intentional fouling at end of games will give the other team the free throws and the ball would fix it I think
maybe if you decline free throws you can also run 20s off the clock or something?
What’s the benefit of fouling anymore? You’re just going to have guys foul out eventually and you’re giving them an essentially unlimited shot clock. You’re better off just trying to force a turnover on a trap.
Most of the time, the shots are less risky than the inbound play. Include a clock runoff of some amount, plus the inbound and new shot clock, and it might change the math for some teams.
It would address the foul up three scenario tho
It’s incredible how they manage to mess up the ending, of all things, which is easily the best part of most contested games in pretty much every other sport.
NFL is close cause half the games a team just needs a 1st down with under 2 minutes left and they win. 2 minutes is a ton of time
The last 30 seconds of this game took like 10 minutes.
Yeah but that’s all taken into account with strategy and you still feel invested watching before then because you know “this first down is for the game” and stuff.
The Thunder are 0-1 since Jdub said they can beat the 2017 Dubs
Bro set us up to lay an egg fawk
Whole team did. Shai said some shit about the record too. Like all humbleness went out the door in Vegas.
The downside of a young dominant team is no vets to tell them to shut their yappers. Gotta learn from the jinx
So true but we’re usually such a level-headed squad.
Wrote a check he can’t cash in
lmao
LMAOOO I had no clue he said that. I only heard about Shai saying he did wanna try for the record
Should okc blow it up?
It’s a good thing they have potentially 3 lottery picks next year. They can find someone to replace shai
Yeah, SGA to the Spurs stat
Mavs need to trade Cooper Flagg, AD, and Klay for Dort
Definitely. Send 3 picks to the warriors and Chet for Kuminga. Make Nico proud
Throw in Caruso too.
Nevermind he’ll foul out by 10min into the game if he’s on the Warriors XD
Trade SGA to Miami Heat
We already have two J. Williams. Give us Andrew so we can have two A. Wiggins as well.
Do we get any picks or do we have to surrender more picks to y’all
Come on, you know the answer to that.
Sell the team
Them attempting to tank would be like a regular team sandbagging (see the Bulls and Kings for the past god knows how many years)
Should okc blow it up? Rockets flair
Rockets flair
Hmmm 🤔
Trade Shai away to the Clippers for all their 2030 picks 🤣
they gotta fix the “foul while up 3 rule” it was a great game until that part
Agreed such a vibe killer
Wasn’t it “foul while up 3” tho?
Or am I missing something?
you’re right i’ll edit it
They should absolutely never touch that. I don’t want any of these dogshit refs getting to decide what an “intentional foul” is.
thats literally what the refs are doing right now
No, the refs don’t have to decide if a player purposefully committed a foul or not.
Wait till you find out about the transition take foul
castle got hacked all game with no calls. caruso can take a little push
As a thunder fan I agree. They let them play tonight and stuck to it. The games are more fun that way. Good game 🤝
I’m actually glad(kinda, still got some homerism) they called the game this way. Giving the young spurs a taste of what Playoff basketball will be like.
He didn’t even get pushed.
If you watch replay wasn’t even a push
All game. Even post game couldn’t believe the no calls. NBA is such a joke.
Thunder fans complaining about refs is my favorite thing
This may hurt OKC’s chances of breaking the 73 game win record.
Also this game tanked our point differential
FUCK
What a terrible ending to the game
My dumb ass tuned in for the final minute of the game just in time to watch a thrilling 20 minutes of timeouts and free throws.
Was working on my finals and my roommate calls me out to watch the stunning ending… and I see this bs
Fouling up 3 is awful. Strategy wise it’s the correct move but it absolutely ruins game ends from a viewership perspective
What happened to the game I love
It’s time for declining penalties and clock runoffs for purposeful fouls or something to that effect
The real winner is the New York Knicks. I’m sure they would’ve wanted to play anyone instead of those demons in Oklahoma
This Spurs team isn’t an easy out
100% but you’d rather them vs OKC
Who is the tallest guy on the Knicks? I bet that dude is feeling individually not great.
I still luv him.. But my boi KAT going to shrink.. Wouldn’t be surprised if 2 fouls in the 1st qtr
Nah cuz wemby probably doesn’t play the first again lol.
Spurs just beat that team on the road with Wemby on minute restriction.
The Spurs are gonna blow the hell out of the mid Knicks
Idk, I could see Knicks winning
Ragebaiting as a hobby is crazy work
Probably
Why the spurs are clearly a better team ?
Same record, but Spurs are in the West… That’s why. I doubt Knicks would have that record in the West
Spurs are back 🥶
What a game wouldn’t be surprised if these two were in the Western Conference finals later this season. Wemby is just a cheat code
no replay on the mid-air push?
Ball don’t lie after the amount of no call fouls he got away with in the 4th
Steph Castle went to the stripe bloody as hell with like 10 seconds left “for his first free throws of the night.”
He got absolutely hacked on drives at least 3x tonight with no whistle
He has the most generous whistle in the league for absolutely no reason. Fucker grabs and smacks guys every possession
It’s ridiculous that Caruso can knock driving players off their line.. But it’s a foul for SGA and JDub if they get knocked off their line
They just showed a replay. Vassell hits Caruso’s hand, which is ok, and doesn’t make contact with any other part of him
Terrible broadcasting if we don’t get a replay after this interview
Yeah, disappointing ending. I wanted to see some OT.
Bro Caruso is out there playing rugby. That was half the contact he’s allowed to get away with for literally no reason
not everyone is named Shai Gilgeous Alexander unfortunately
SVG would not shut up about that side out of bounds play.
SVG would not shut up
Dude really just spamming the same three statements all game long. Awful commentary
Did they get a bonus every time they said Wemby? And then that weird alien deportation joke. Ugh
Losing his damn voice, take a drink of water man.
For real, goddamn. What’s the point of having DWade in there if SVG is just filling the void with whatever comes to mind? He wasn’t even funny with it like Jeff when he was on ESPN.
I’m still reeling over the “we deport those” line completely dehumanizing immigrants
Yea I think there’s bipartisan agreement that there’s no place for jokes like that on a national broadcast. Just stupid and embarrassing
It’s a bad joke to start with, but the fact he went with “those” instead of “them” amplifies it by 10x.
After getting away with hacking Wemby all game it’s only fitting that Caruso gets nothing 🖕
And Castle
I beg the nba to get rid of the foul when up strategy it’s so boring I want to watch buzzer beaters not free throws
And get rid of intentionally fouling down by 3. 2 free throws plus ball.
Surprised Caruso didn’t elbow or swat anyone there
He did, he shoved Castle’s shoulder with both hands that’s how he got to the ball first
Might have been fouled, but given how much murder they get away with, I don’t care.
With all the missed whistles on us and how far up they would’ve put us I think this makes us fair IMO. No I’m not biased
Not a foul cmon guys there’s one second left you can’t beg for that call
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taste of their own medicine, finally
Was it? Just looked like he over shot the jump
How? he has every right to the ball as Caruso
Ask Castle about missed fouls..
Caruso should be used to having fouls not called. sucks being on the other side
Stephon castles face is bloody the hell up and he had like no calls lol
Caruso would have fouled out in the 3rd quarter if the refs had called all the fouls he committed
Finally someone can play defense on OKC like OKC plays defense on them
Dude shouldn’t have even been on the court. Fouls more than any player in the league.
lol notice how everyone saying it was a foul is a thunder fan
Thunder fan here, didn’t think it was a foul, have a good one 👍🏼
I appreciate you🙏not all thunder fans but only thunder fans haha, you have a good one too
Thought it might have been a foul until they finally showed a replay after the interview. It definitely wasn’t something worth calling in the last second of a game
close
Certified Caruso hater wrote that title 😂
I’m not seeing this egregious foul everyone is talking about
Damn dude game just ended
That man is out there playing rugby. It’s insane the amount of leeway he gets. He’s whatever the opposite version of a flopper is, where they don’t blow the whistle on him while he fouls everybody within arm’s reach
Am I honestly blind, why are people calling a foul here. Looks like incidental shoving while both fight for the board…
not a single okc fan in r/nba tonight; how wonderful
Not true
I bet they look at the foul when up by 3 late in a close game this offseason
Kinda killed the ending of a great game
This was my first thought but idk what they do. There’s not really an easy solution to this
WEMBY IS REALLY “HIM”
Caruso acting like he got fouled lol
You love to see it.
If you’re gonna call the foul against caruso earlier then this is a foul too
NBA reffing in general is just so bad lol
If the best player tonight couldn’t get it done then so be it.
Honestly a very poetic finish that after being able to foul impudently all game without being called for it, Caruso is fouled on the very last play that may have tied the game, and the refs don’t call it.
I been there Caruso. Whiskey dick
Game ends with OKC whining to the refs. The irony
Foul.
Night night
Even if we lose I’m looking forward to Tuesday because it’ll be the biggest challenge the Knicks have had all year
This was well played.
The Alien just warps how you gotta play SA.
Does Stan Van Gundy know we don’t need him to yap the entirety of the game? He was relentlessly annoying.
The last minute of the game was like forever
The tears in this thread about how OKC somehow isn’t getting treated fairly. Lmao y’all get preferential treatment.
Okc whining for a foul call is the perfect way to end it
It’s ok Caruso, I have that problem too sometimes
How he gonna finish that? 🤡
Maybe it’s just fiba but isn’t it a violation if you enter from the 3 pt line before the ball hits the ring?
Caruso went in way early anyways.
Hahaha another foul by Caruso here
That’s it, the okc is faltering . Trade the WHOLE FREAKING BENCH FOR JOKIC.
If i was a Spur player right there i should’ve said and also contest to the ref that it was a foul with Thunder players just to troll them.
no nut caruso
LOL