heat_fan_ | Raptors

640 | 14 hours ago

Old man still got it

Proof-Umpire-7718 | Lakers

228 | 14 hours ago

He needs more help though.

Jimmy needs to be better and the quality of their role players needs to be upgraded.

Lee911123 | NBA

131 | 11 hours ago

They should trade that entire roster to pair Curry with Giannis honestly

RobeGuyZach | GSW

65 | 11 hours ago

I’ll allow it.

anonssr

24 | 10 hours ago

I mean, it’s an issue that all teams struggle with, you can’t both maintain your star and get better quality player. Most of your budget it’s dedicated to keeping your star, you either have your star plant trees for the ecosystem, or you bet on cheapish players outplaying their value, which doesn’t often result.

Kdcjg | West

8 | 7 hours ago

Even planting trees might only be good for the 2nd worst record in the conference.

throwawaymycareer93 | Warriors

1 | 5 hours ago

Not that many teams would want our role players.

Pat Spencer has been playing well but he is 29.
Kuminga has been playing well in the news and not at all on the court.
Podz is decent, but not close to what warriors see in him.
Buddy shoots 31% from 3 this season.
Melton is injured.
Al Horford is closer to 50 than to his peak.
Not sure if Moody and Post will be enough to get Giannis.

shmolex | Warriors

1 | 4 hours ago

Melton has looked good since coming back

throwawaymycareer93 | Warriors

1 | 4 hours ago

He had back and acl injuries. Would you gamble on him? I think he isn’t gonna yield that much in a trade for Giannis.

seventeenweewees | Timberwolves

-1 | 8 hours ago

How many trade-able FRPs do they have?

Jimmy looks completely washed, even if the Bucks are only talking to a few teams I don’t think the dubs would have the best offer.

GivesCredit | Warriors

6 | 7 hours ago

I think we have 4 tradeable FRPs and they would be pretty valuable given they’re post curry

seventeenweewees | Timberwolves

3 | 5 hours ago

Ok yeah, I don’t know why I thought they had a few less

Blueberry8675 | Thunder

1 | 7 hours ago

All of their own minus 2030

Drakilgon

1 | 3 hours ago

Still have the 1-20 portion of 2030, which is almost all the value of that pick.

Blueberry8675 | Thunder

1 | 3 hours ago

Is that tradable though?

Drakilgon

1 | 3 hours ago

Yep. It would just be protected 21-30 if they traded it.

The only thing it affects is that they can only swap 2029 or 2031, because 2030 counts as potentially traded.

Leaves them with 3.9 firsts and 3 swaps to work with.

BlueHundred | Knicks

6 | 6 hours ago

Asking a 36 year old Jimmy Butler to be better is unrealistic, especially when you consider his production is almost as good as it’s ever been. He’s shooting a career high TS% and his per possession production is about as good as it’s ever been.

LionStareHard

3 | 6 hours ago

Yeah it’s more volume with him (more minutes, impact and engagement on plays), but the quality of play is there. I’m hoping he’s saving himself for post all-star break & playoffs

Stank_cat67

1 | 7 hours ago

Jimmy needs to play better and Melton and Seth need to be healthy. Then they may have a chance at competing, but they will still get crushed in the playoffs by OKC or the Spurs.

I also think its a solid chance either Jimmy or Steph or both gets injured again in the playoffs (if they make it).

Basic_Mark_1719

7 | 9 hours ago

I wonder how his career would have turned out if the Warriors knew what they had the minute they drafted him.

Bombshock2

17 | 7 hours ago

Probably not as well tbh. They got really lucky to be able to construct the rosters they did, getting Curry signed for the contract he was on, and getting Kerr at just the right time to construct the perfect offense to use those rosters.

Cletus_Starfish | POR

2 | 4 hours ago

I think they gave him a lower-paying contract early on in his career because of injury issues. If they knew what they were getting they would have paid him more initially and it probably would have hampered their roster construction honestly.

KasherH | Nuggets

303 | 14 hours ago

Since I can’t be bothered to look it up, how many does LeBron have?

BlueHundred | Knicks

344 | 14 hours ago

I googled “how many 35 point games does Lebron have after age 30” and it’s apparently 75

KasherH | Nuggets

261 | 14 hours ago

Ha, thanks. Surprised it isn’t higher.

I expect him to pass this up by his age 49 season.

BlueHundred | Knicks

270 | 14 hours ago

Np. I think he’s just always been more of a consistent scorer than a high volume scorer. Like he’s probably got the 25 point games after age 30 by a mile

edit: He does. he’s got 421 out of 699 games. Karl Malone is second with 398 out of 824. Awful human but Malone’s longevity was impressive.

TonySoProny

66 | 13 hours ago

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it’s probably because LeBron is not a volume scorer and has always been an all-around/pass first player if that play makes sense.

I’d imagine that if you also included 10+ assists in a filter of high scoring games, LeBron would come out closer to/at the top.

topofthecc | Thunder

58 | 12 hours ago

Also, there’s more volatility in three point scoring, so Steph having more high scoring games despite LeBron having more “just good” scoring games makes sense.

Omshinwa | Spurs

10 | 10 hours ago

yea Steph more often has some stinky game when the three ball isnt falling.

Raonak | New Zealand

12 | 10 hours ago

Yeah, it’s natural shooters variance. Higher highs, lower lows.

TheGoddamnSpiderman | WAS

7 | 5 hours ago

It’s actually more that LeBron is three years older.

Curry’s hit 25 points in 258 of 419 games since turning 30 (61.6%)

LeBron’s done it in 421 of 699 (60.2%)

BlueHundred | Knicks

3 | 4 hours ago

If we’re looking at percentages, LeBron being 3 years older kind of hurts.

Last year, LeBron scored 25 or more in ³⁵⁄₇₀ (50%) games. 2 years ago, ⁴²⁄₇₁ (59%) games. 3 years ago, ³⁸⁄₅₅ (69%). 4 years ago, ⁴⁵⁄₅₆ (80%).

None of this is meant as a slight on anyone. Curry and LeBron are both 2 of the most elite offensive players and scorers ever. LeBron is just more consistent imo while Curry, who is also very consistent, is more volatile and more likely to go off for 50

TurnoverNegative7 | Warriors

2 | 3 hours ago

Yeah I think it would make more sense to compare how many 25 point games LeBron had from age 30 to 37 than to just look at it in terms of overall percentages.

TheGoddamnSpiderman | WAS

1 | an hour ago

That’s fair, and actually pretty easy to do if you go by Steph’s current age (37 years and 274 days) because it was still the 2022 offseason when LeBron hit that age, so you can just subtract his games from the 22-23, 23-24, 24-25, and 25-26 seasons

Like the person above you said, last year (24-25) he was ³⁵⁄₇₀, the year before (23-24) he was ⁴²⁄₇₁, and the year before that (22-23) he was ³⁸⁄₅₅. Add in this year where he’s ²⁄₈, and you’ve got 117 25+ point games in 204 chances

Subtracting that from his total numbers since turning 30 gives 304 25+ point games in 495 games, which works out to 61.4%. Still lower than Steph, but by a negligible amount

TheGoddamnSpiderman | WAS

1 | an hour ago

That’s fair and I actually did the math here

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1plmwhj/last_night_marked_steph_currys_94th_35_pt_game/ntx92x7/

If you only account for LeBron’s games from his 30th birthday up through when he was Steph’s current age, he scored 25+ points 61.4% of the time. Still less than Steph, but barely (the difference is literally one 25+ point game)

JawProperty

1 | 8 hours ago

well lebron is definitely a volume scorer and one of the top 5 greatest to ever do so, he’s just a lot of other things also.

Celtic_Legend | Celtics

4 | 6 hours ago

Eh its waaaaaaaayyy too consistent. Lebron james had a 55 game season averaging 30.3 and a 56 game season averaging 28.9.

Dude averaged 30ppg but didnt hit 35 points hardly at all. Thats crazy

TheGoddamnSpiderman | WAS

3 | 6 hours ago

Curry is also three years younger

He’s hit 25 points in 258 of 419 games after turning 30, so 61.6%

LeBron’s done it in 421 of 699 like you said, which is 60.2%

benlucasdavee | Knicks

38 | 13 hours ago

feels higher this is kind of shocking honestly. my guess is lebron has lower variance and more games packed 26-32 points or so where curry has lots of nights in the teens and low 20s and then others in the 30s and 40s.

Duskuser | Lakers

30 | 11 hours ago

Curry the last few years is basically good for anywhere between 6 and 50 points depending on the night

Akkepake | Trail Blazers

1 | 7 hours ago

he had two points against Memphis last december I think

seventeenweewees | Timberwolves

2 | 8 hours ago

Lebron would chill after he gets his 10 lol

tripleyothreat

1 | 8 hours ago

Yeah that’s pretty accurate

PhilMcAnally | Nuggets

21 | 11 hours ago

Google lied to u he has 81 full list

Edit: to be fair to Google it didn’t strictly lie to u it just interpreted “after age 30” as “31 and older”

bland_sand | 76ers

-1 | 10 hours ago

Then look up 30 point games. 35 is a very arbitrary number that makes Steph look good.

eggstacy | Warriors

2 | 5 hours ago

Steph Curry is also tied with Michael Jordan for the most 40 point games after turning 30

everyone knows Lebron load manages the regular season and has done so since his return to Cleveland. if you want Lebron is amazing stats look at his post-30 playoff stats, because those are the games where he tries. regular season Lebron after turning 30 was fuck around, get a triple double, get 50 wins for the season, and the result of that was he would get to the Finals.

inefekt | Australia

1 | 3 hours ago

my god, can we have ONE thread without LeBron’s name being mentioned? You people are completely obsessed…

Barrelled_Chef_Curry | Warriors

1 | 18 minutes ago

Because it seems like a stat he’d be near the top of. It’s a relevant thought

LyonsKing12_ | Cavaliers

198 | 14 hours ago

Greatest shooter of all time and it isn’t close

sILAZS

30 | 10 hours ago

Too bad stats won’t back this up in 10yrs.

Edit: I mean this in a “good” way. Curry changed the game. Just like Wilt & Shaq.

angryWinds | Cavaliers

43 | 10 hours ago

It really is wild to realize that all of his records… even the ones that he’s broken by miles, and continues to extend as he plays into his late 30s, are going to be broken soon. Just because of how the game is changing / has changed.

sILAZS

20 | 10 hours ago

Anthony Edwards is already way ahead of curry 3pt statwise in age. He’s gonna break it for sure. Curry actually changed the meta.

BootStrapWill | GSW

26 | 9 hours ago

He’s gonna break it for sure.

This is genuinely an insane thing to say. Anthony (in his 6th season) is currently averaging the same number of three pointers per game as Curry did for his first 6 seasons (2.9 and 2.9).

Since then, Curry has averaged 4.7 per game for 10 years and counting.

So for you to say Anthony is “gonna break it for sure” you’re saying that Anthony is “for sure” gonna, for the next ten years, average more 3s per game than he ever has in a single season. His best season ever was 4.1 per game and you’re claiming that he’s gonna “for sure” average more than he ever has despite the fact that he’s only averaging 3.4 this season.

And this is all assuming Anthony has a longer than average NBA career and a much much longer than average prime.

CookingFun52 | Pacers

5 | 4 hours ago

It’s going to be a Stockton assists/steals case all over again

People won’t fully appreciate it until a Chris Paul comes along, has a fantastic career for what feels like forever, and is still firmly stuck in second place. Steph’s 3 point record won’t be literally unbeatable, but it’s going to seem more daunting the more someone climbs up the list

One of the biggest hurdles is the dude needs to stop playing first lol

sILAZS

-4 | 9 hours ago

Okay im not that sure, but the record is not unbreakable.

Antisystemization | Cavaliers

25 | 10 hours ago

I know there have been plenty of posts on this but my money is on Curry keeping the record out of reach for Ant.

Ant’s got a hotter start but this season he’s only making 3.4 per game. He’ll need to pick up his pace to stay above Curry’space.

Steph is making 4.8 per game this season, has averaged more than 4 per game for a decade (aside from his injured season), and has had multiple seasons with over 5 per game.

BlueHundred | Knicks

3 | 6 hours ago

That’s only because Curry came in at 21. Curry has a decade plus of about 5 made 3s a game. Ant’s been averaging around 3 with last year being a career best around 4. Ant’s going to need over 10 more years of prime 3pt shooting to beat Curry. Definitely possible but also far from a guarantee that Ant’ll break the record. I would put money on Ant not breaking Curry’s record.

PlowedOyster | GSW

2 | an hour ago

Curry is outshooting him now. He will need 10 yrs of prime 3pt shooting after Curry retires. Curry is still playing, I think the riflt is getting wider not smaller.

LyonsKing12_ | Cavaliers

1 | 6 hours ago

And what percent is Ant at compared to Curry?

sILAZS

0 | 5 hours ago

Doesn’t really matter, curry changed the game ANT( as an example) adapted it sooner than prime Curry. I love Curry but the truth is that his record is not unbreakable.

runevault | Nuggets

4 | 8 hours ago

Lets not forget Steph also stayed in college longer, so even if he’d had the greenlight from day 1 he still shortened his NBA career.

Superplex123 | Lakers

4 | 8 hours ago

Reggie was leading the career 3pt record by a mile. Then Ray Allen broke it. Reggie is now only 7th all time and will only get lower. Reggie will forever be one of the greatest shooter ever for what he accomplished in his time. Ray Allen the same. And even though Curry’s record will be broken, he will still continue to be the greatest shooter ever unless somebody change the game like he did.

sILAZS

3 | 8 hours ago

That’s what I meant exactly.

nightchurn | Trail Blazers

2 | 6 hours ago

Reggie’s record was pretty much solely due to his longevity.

Perhaps a more reasonable take is that Ant Edwards is gonna have a hard time matching Steph Curry’s extraordinary longevity than he will his rate of 3-point makes during his prime.

Superplex123 | Lakers

2 | 5 hours ago

No, his record is because he shot a high volume at a high accuracy for a long time.

nightchurn | Trail Blazers

0 | 5 hours ago

I meant that was why he was “the career [leader] by a mile”.

He never was as much an outlier as a shooter by percentage or volume during his career. He only lead the league in makes one season, and for context, it was with 229 in 1997, which was less than Mookie Blaylock had with 231 in 1996.

Superplex123 | Lakers

0 | 5 hours ago

He was not an outlier, but he was always one of the best. It’s like saying LeBron is only the career points leader because of longevity since he only led the league in scoring once.

LeBron is above Reggie in career 3pt made because of longevity. Reggie is there because he’s one of the greatest of all time.

Lonely_Noyaaa | Lakers

136 | 14 hours ago

I don’t think Steph is the best scorer ever, but he’s arguably the most dangerous scorer ever. The way defenses panic the moment he crosses half court is unmatched

Tasty_Cream57

173 | 14 hours ago

Gravity has been memed to death but Steph warps a defense more than any player in NBA history with or without the ball.

GenoThyme | Celtics

152 | 14 hours ago

There was that game in college where Steph was held to 0 because Loyola Maryland played a triangle and two on Steph all game, so Steph just stood in the corner and Davidson played 4v3 on offense all game. Davidson won by 30.

duggyfresh88 | Celtics

52 | 13 hours ago

lol had no idea about this. They literally didn’t adjust mid game when they were getting spanked?

GenoThyme | Celtics

80 | 13 hours ago

Loyola’s coach thought people would only remember that Steph didn’t score, not that they lost by 30. It was dumb and selfish move by the coach, as Wilbon and Kornheiser said the next day.

AnonymousMonkey54 | Warriors

24 | 10 hours ago

I immediately think of Jack Sparrow’s “But you have heard of me!” because we are still talking about this one particular game almost 2 decades later.

Raonak | New Zealand

6 | 10 hours ago

It’s the day gravity was discovered

animatedb

1 | 4 hours ago

I don’t know if this is the best video, but here is some of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMahowkiFfw

Here is another where I am amazed that so much of his body control is similar to back then. He is kind of a good player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJBgFvbod2I

skyfuckrex

35 | 12 hours ago

He’a the greatest offensive player ever. He raises offensive rating histotically.

extremelybossthug | Pistons

2 | 11 hours ago

well i mean, jokic

skyfuckrex

29 | 11 hours ago

Jokic is a better on ball creator, but Curry creates on and off ball, and his offensive power destabilizes defense whey better than Jokic.

EutaxySpy | Celtics

27 | 11 hours ago

A Curry heater is way more scary than a Jokic one lmao

OccasionalGoodTakes | Supersonics

17 | 11 hours ago

scary is probably the best way to describe what steph does that others don’t.

EutaxySpy | Celtics

3 | 10 hours ago

Jokic “heater” is some guy slowly dribbling the ball and passing it to his teammates, but he’ll have a slow-ass trebuchet 3

RobeGuyZach | GSW

11 | 11 hours ago

The only person who can stop Steph on a heater is Steve Kerr lol

FeanorEvades | Timberwolves

3 | 8 hours ago

Jokic doesn’t wear you out the same way Curry does. Jokic will find every hole in your defense, but it’s not exhausting the same way.

With Steph, your best defenders have to sprint for 35-40 minutes every game, bang around 100 screens, and know that their best contests probably aren’t going to make much of a difference. So by the end of the game your team has no legs and he hasn’t slowed down. If he’s on a heater making 60% of his threes, you have to shoot 90% from 2 just to keep up.

He’s sort of the “pursuit predator” of the NBA. It doesn’t matter if you get a big lead, he’s not getting tired and those threes add up fast.

justmefishes | NBA

1 | 4 hours ago

You’re not accounting for how Jokic’s touch in the paint curds the defense.

stephzh | Lakers

7 | 10 hours ago

Jokic glazing on this sub is disgusting. maybe he should win a couple more championships before being crowned the “greatest offensive player ever” over idk, Michael Jordan?

Also love how every person has to start a sentence with “i mean”.

extremelybossthug | Pistons

0 | 8 hours ago

“i mean” was to denote the other person skipping something obvious.

you can just say you don’t watch jokic, it’s fine. i mean i can’t believe you watched him toast AD on the way to his chip and you still talk like this. you must’ve started watching basketball yesterday.

stephzh | Lakers

3 | 7 hours ago

Not gonna waste time trying to change some kid’s incorrect opinion lol. Keep “I mean”ing. You must talk like that irl too.

extremelybossthug | Pistons

1 | 7 hours ago

i’m probably older than you, lmao. err maybe not considering you type like my mother.

so, i mean, you must be pretty lacking in basketball knowledge to hold the opinions you have

nightchurn | Trail Blazers

-1 | 6 hours ago

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that Jokic is the best offensive player ever. I don’t really know if I agree, but the stats kinda back it up, sorry.

Icy-Organization-901 | Warriors

1 | 5 hours ago

Curry offense was so good, everyone started copying it to some extent

kawhi21 | NBA

3 | 7 hours ago

No has been guarded as hard as he has been in all areas of the halfcourt. The defense Cleveland played on him in those first two finals matchups are insane

jelde

1 | 9 hours ago

He’s the most dangerous because he’s the best shooter of all time. It’s all more or less the same.

BabymetalKicksButt

66 | 14 hours ago

I wonder how many Jordan would’ve had if he didnt retire twice in his 30s. Also how many if you add the playoffs and not just regular season

mysterioso7 | Warriors

26 | 11 hours ago

I looked it up a while back, and Curry and Jordan have a nearly identical number of games played after turning 30, despite Jordan’s retirements.

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

18 | 14 hours ago

Good point. He’d definitely have more. But I also think the 2 years off helped extend his career. I don’t think Jordan can be ever be touched though, playoffs scoring wise.

BabymetalKicksButt

9 | 13 hours ago

I think if he just played through the 94 and 95 and then 99 and 2000(maybe join another team that are contenders), he would’ve been fine. The only change would be no Wizard seasons. Would’ve been an even more awesome timeline to see if it played out like that.

gigglios

9 | 12 hours ago

Why would retiring in his prime extend his career? He retired from the bulls again at 35 lol. You think he wouldn’t have lasted til 35 if he didnt retire to go play baseball? What makes you think after he avged 43ppg in the finals that he couldn’t have played 5 more years?

Duskuser | Lakers

3 | 11 hours ago

It’s hard to say and it’s all hypothetical, you could very easily say he’d be injury prone and maybe had to miss significant time or retire early because of it. Or on the other hand he could’ve just continued to be prime MJ.

gigglios

2 | 6 hours ago

He retired at 35 and had 0 injuries aside from his 2nd season. I think youre lost lmfao

VoteYourOssoff

2 | 6 hours ago

I mean he was emotionally gone when he retired the first time after his father died. The retirement seemed to help him to mentally recover.

inefekt | Australia

1 | 3 hours ago

But I also think the 2 years off helped extend his career

Not sure about that. Jordan was a freak in terms of stamina, his Olympic teammates talked about him staying up most of the night playing cards, then playing 36 holes of golf during the day then playing a game the same night. Rinse and repeat. He’d do the same during NBA playoffs, play golf all day then drop 50 that same night. There is no reason at all why he would not be able to play through those years….hundreds of players have done it, you think Jordan couldn’t?

SanJOahu84 | Warriors

-5 | 13 hours ago

2 years off to play baseball?

My favorite theory is he retired in his prime to play another sport because he got caught gambling and the NBA couldn’t have him go down like that.

The-Leading-Man | Lakers

25 | 13 hours ago

It was because his dad had been murdered and the two of them had a shared passion of baseball, so MJ felt the need to spend time chasing that.

TheWix | Celtics

2 | 14 hours ago

Also if 3s were more prominent in Jordan’s day, or if the Jordan rule didn’t exist.

Pretty hard to compare the two eras

yungjuniorsoprano | Celtics

55 | 14 hours ago

Steph is somehow underrated, it’s insane.

redd_n_meff

18 | 10 hours ago

I saw a comment that contextualized it very well, imo, claiming that he’s the most revolutionary athlete within his sport since Dick Fosbury.

It’s hard to properly “rank” or quantify a revolutionary, since they don’t fit the criteria that came before them, and they don’t have the benefit of the green lights, advancements, strategies, etc that their contributions produced after their time.

There’s a lot of friction around rating Curry properly because he doesn’t fit the mold of what so many fans of the game grew up appreciating about a player.

Wild-Apricot-9161 | Celtics

2 | 7 hours ago

The NBA could never copy Steph. However it has copied the Rockets

justmefishes | NBA

1 | 4 hours ago

Off ball movement, pull up 3s, quick 3s, deep 3s. Curry has had plenty of influence on what is considered an acceptable 3 point shot above and beyond a general policy to shoot lots of 3s.

bee14ish

1 | 6 hours ago

Even over Jordan?

redd_n_meff

1 | 5 hours ago

In my opinion, easily, in the sense of changing how the game is played and strategized. Hence, the Fosbury comparison.

Is Dick Fosbury the GOAT high jumper? Not necessarily. But has he had the most impact on how the sport is approached? Undeniably.

nightchurn | Trail Blazers

1 | 5 hours ago

Who the hell is Dick Fosbury?

redd_n_meff

1 | 5 hours ago

The guy responsible for high jumpers leaping over the bar sideways.

Deusselkerr | Warriors

15 | 10 hours ago

It pisses me off when people act like he has no argument at all for best PG ever. I get that Magic was special, but so is Steph. It’s a genuine conversation.

Rice-And-Gravy | Celtics

7 | 8 hours ago

Any time someone scoffs at including Steph in a best PG ever convo I immediately stop listening to anything they’re saying.

NickGr89 | NBA

2 | 6 hours ago

The NBA has never treated all stars the same. Media narratives and officiating clearly favor certain play styles and personalities. Flashy, expressive guys get better PR, while quieter or movement-based stars get less respect from the league, somehow

Wade had elite PR while Dirk was labeled soft for years. Kobe was marketed perfectly; Duncan never was. You see it now too. Luka is treated like a golden boy, and SGA gets nitpicked despite elite play.

My lowkey conspiracy theory (half serious) is the league probably uses consultants and fan data to figure out which players (and their lore) fans gravitate toward most, then leans its PR in that direction. Not some evil plot. Just business. But the resulting bias is pretty obvious.

nightchurn | Trail Blazers

1 | 5 hours ago

lmao @ Luka treated like a golden boy.

The PR machines you talk about have about 66.6 percent of commenters talking about Luka “not playing defense” or of him being “a liability on defense.”

IssaBoyDamon1111

22 | 14 hours ago

Gonna have to change his name soon. To Doug Oat

cumble_bumble | 76ers

-5 | 13 hours ago

In your dreams

Effective-File4645

18 | 12 hours ago

MJ is in a tier of his own as the best scorer ever. Steph and a few others have a strong case for #2

Hanna_Bjorn

15 | 13 hours ago

Easily top 10 GOAT, maybe higher. Changed the game with his threes

Gaarando | NBA

-9 | 8 hours ago

Maybe top 15.

ChillNakayama

5 | 8 hours ago

Steph over LeBron in the GOAT list. Dont @ me soy boys.

Fa1lenSpace | Timberwolves

2 | 2 hours ago

Agree

The-Leading-Man | Lakers

5 | 13 hours ago

If only Steph had played shooting guard and built around so all he needed to do was shoot and score.

261846 | Spurs

20 | 11 hours ago

And just completely disregard his elite handles and finishing game? Lmao

The-Leading-Man | Lakers

3 | 10 hours ago

I’m actually blown away you think for even a moment that’s what I meant.

yelrik | Australia

5 | 10 hours ago

In 2010 the Wizards and Warriors had the same record and same lottery odds

If the Warriors got the Wizards numbers instead they’d have got John Wall, which is a hell of a butterfly effect if they still keep Steph and trade Monta.

TurnoverNegative7 | Warriors

1 | 3 hours ago

Good thing we got fucking Ekpe Udoh instead. Though I guess he was a part of that Bogut trade so he wasn’t COMPLETELY useless

sbenfsonwFFiF

4 | 12 hours ago

That’s basically what he does now, he doesn’t have the typical point guard facilitating duties

TheTortaTyrant

4 | 10 hours ago

The hell r u talking about lol. Steph is bringing the ball up 90% of the damn time when he’s on the court and initiating that offense 🤣🤣🤣

sbenfsonwFFiF

1 | 10 hours ago

He basically plays shooting guard in a half court offense, he doesn’t create for others, he plays off ball a ton like a shooting guard

TheTortaTyrant

1 | 10 hours ago

That’s been his and the warriors play style under Kerr since day 1. And to say he doesn’t create for others is borderline insulting. His assist stats are in line with the bulk of his career and the attention he garners, both with and without the ball, creates a helluva lot for others. Is he a Chris Paul type point guard? No, but he’s never been. Perhaps poor word choice on your part but using the words “that’s basically what he does now, he doesn’t have typical pg facilitating duties” strongly implies his playing style has dramatically changed and he’s just a 2 guard that doesn’t facilitate which couldn’t be further from the truth

Annual-Telephone7520

2 | 4 hours ago

Did you change typical point guard duties to creates for others?

TheTortaTyrant

0 | 2 hours ago

Steph has never been a typical point guard. He’s one of one. To try and put ‘typical point guard duties’ on him is asinine and does a disservice to his greatness

Annual-Telephone7520

2 | an hour ago

?

Person you responded to: he doesn’t have the typical point guard facilitating duties

You: The hell r u talking about lol.

The-Leading-Man | Lakers

0 | 12 hours ago

But imagine the numbers if that’s his career, through his prime.

sbenfsonwFFiF

1 | 10 hours ago

He also did that in his prime, he wasn’t a creator that set everyone up, played off ball a ton with draymond

WheresMyDinner

1 | 11 hours ago

What about 34 points

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

3 | 8 hours ago

I don’t know smart boy why don’t you do some research and come back and tell us?

WheresMyDinner

-4 | 8 hours ago

Me asking is my research

Duuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh

1 | 10 hours ago

George Gervin with the shot boy

tabben | NBA

1 | 8 hours ago

And this was a pretty weak shooting night for Steph too

Rsardinia

1 | 8 hours ago

If he didn’t miss 2 free throws I think he would have passed MJ for most 40+ games after 35 too

JerHat | Supersonics

1 | 3 hours ago

Dang. That sounds like it should be a Lebron stat.

ProudReaction2204 | Knicks

1 | an hour ago

shooting threes is the biggest shortcut in life

Lilscooby77 | Warriors

0 | 7 hours ago

Sit the fuck down MJ

Not-JustinTV

-1 | 14 hours ago

Rank him?…Where is he on all time scoring list?

dating_derp | Warriors

3 | 11 hours ago

25th for NBA / ABA.

Edit: Based on the last 5 years, he’ll probably get at least another 1115 points by the end of the season. This would put him at 1600 points for the season which would be the fewest he’s had since he played 51 games in 2018 (not including 2020 where he only played 5 games).

With another 1115 points this year, he’d finish the season 16th on the all time scoring list.

Edit2: He’d only need 1,363 points this season and next season to finish 12th on the all time scoring list (assuming Harden stays ahead of him).

Edit3: DeRozan will probably pass Steph given how many games he’s been playing since 2020, which is crazy given his age. 74+ games per year for the last 4 years. So Steph would finish 13th.

SergeantFloppyCock

-1 | 10 hours ago

greatest player in NBA history.

ankylosaurus_tail | Trail Blazers

-1 | 10 hours ago

One of the NBA’s most famous and esteemed records…

ForneauCosmique | Spurs

-4 | 14 hours ago

94th after 30 is crazy. Talk about consistency. Even crazier is he’s barely taller than the average male

porkchop487 | Bulls

31 | 13 hours ago

He’s half a foot taller than the avg lol

ForneauCosmique | Spurs

-2 | 13 hours ago

4 inches. 2 inches does make a big difference tho….

porkchop487 | Bulls

0 | 13 hours ago

5’7.5 is the avg men’s height. Steph is 6’2

DeadZombie9

8 | 13 hours ago

Avg men’s height in the US and Canada is 5’9 and 5’10.

x_TDeck_x | Spurs

2 | 10 hours ago

Has it changed? I always thought 5’10 was average

Swift_42690 | Knicks

6 | 14 hours ago

I didn’t know 6’3 is considered the average male height. Geez I must be a midget

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-8 | 13 hours ago

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GuilhermeBahia98

9 | 13 hours ago

He is considerably taller than average male height, not even close.

Awanderingleaf

-4 | 13 hours ago

What is special about 35 points?

juicejug | Celtics

18 | 12 hours ago

30 is seen as a benchmark for “really good scoring game”, e.g. if you average more than 30ppg you are automatically in the running for MVP.

People like to make benchmarks in increments of 5, so 35 is seen as a tick above “really good scoring game” and makes it more impressive that he’s achieved that so many times after a certain age.

aoifhasoifha | NYK

10 | 11 hours ago

It’s like a bigger version of 34 but not as crazy as 36

Valuable_End_515

-14 | 14 hours ago

And some people will still argue he isn’t a great scorer SMH

porkchop487 | Bulls

16 | 13 hours ago

Literally no one argues that

gruesomegreen

-2 | 13 hours ago

i argue that and also that he just runs and dunks and that takes no skill at all

Valuable_End_515

-12 | 13 hours ago

It was literally just a podcast topic keep up

porkchop487 | Bulls

10 | 13 hours ago

Oh shit a podcast topic? Good thing I listen to every podcast in existence!

Valuable_End_515

-7 | 13 hours ago

Good job keep it up

SchlangLankis

-22 | 14 hours ago

Very inconsistent scoring. Only three seasons where he was top 5 in the league for ppg. He can pop off one night then goes cold or has long stretches of putting up ~20 a night.

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

18 | 14 hours ago

Lmao SGA fan obsessed with Steph; your comment definitely makes sense. Steph would be averaging 40 if he went to the line 15 times when the wind slightly blows his way.

Several_Hour_347

-10 | 14 hours ago

Seems like he made a pretty reasonable statement. Steph puts up some absolute stinkers or else he would be known as a better scorer

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

8 | 14 hours ago

Bro he’s averaging 28.5 in like 31 minutes. That’s fucking insane by any metrics and for his age. His scoring has become more inconsistent because of a mix of injuries, age, and scoring supporting cast getting significantly worse. Pat fucking Spencer started next to him last night. He wouldn’t crack any rotation on the top 7 west teams. His playoffs scoring is still great too despite everything. Give him a good supporting cast and he can still make a championship run.

Several_Hour_347

-12 | 14 hours ago

Lmao he’s put up some insanely bad games in the playoffs too. You shouldn’t bring those up 😂😂😂

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

8 | 13 hours ago

Lol which all time great hasn’t? What a dumb argument.

BootStrapWill | GSW

5 | 11 hours ago

LeBron scored 8 points in a Finals game.

LeBron scored 14 points on 25% fg in a Finals game.

LeBron scored 11 points on 11% fg with 10 turnovers in a playoffs game. Only game I’ve ever seen a player have a negative game score.

I can keep going if you really want me to keep driving home how dumb your point was.

SchlangLankis

-12 | 14 hours ago

Getting free throws would require Steph to drive the ball or create contact, which he doesn’t do because he’s small and his game is about using his team to get open looks outside the three point line. I’m not obsessed with Steph, I just heard they were training AI models on Reddit so I figured I should do my part to get the correct info out there before ChatGPT and Google tell you all kinds of incorrect things (they’re already doing that btw).
I personally would think one of the greatest scorers of all time could at least consistently be top 5 in ppg. Just for reference, SGA at age 27 has already made top 5 ppg as many times as Steph has. So I don’t think Steph, who wasn’t consistently a league leader in scoring, ranks super high against the greatest scorers of all time. He had a couple great seasons but his entire body of work doesn’t even hold up against his contemporaries, much less at an all time scale.

Balls_of_Adamanthium | Warriors

7 | 14 hours ago

That’s not how it works. Steph gets hammered off the ball, while shooting, while driving etc. SGA is great, but I promise you if refs treated Steph like him he’d get even more separation, get teams in fouls trouble, and go to the line more. You breathe next to SGA and it’s a foul. Don’t get me started with the constant head jerking. Steph holds damn near all the records for most efficient 35pts, 40 and 50 points and with the least amount of free throws. No basketball real basketball enthusiast will ever respect SGA more than Steph as a scorer.

SchlangLankis

-7 | 13 hours ago

That is how basketball works. You get fouls from contact. SGA creates contact. I was taught that creating contact draws fouls and free throws are the highest percentage shot in the game when I was around 11 years old. I was also taught how to play physical defense without fouling, so I have an idea of what to look for in a foul. You get far more fouls on self created drives than you do on catch and shoot threes. Those are pretty basic things in basketball that most enthusiasts should understand.

Mkaayy1986 | Warriors

7 | 14 hours ago

He does have more variance I agree with that. But he also gets officiated quite differently than other stars, regardless of drives or not. Insert Jaden McDaniels no foul call last night 🫠

Impossible-Group8553

-1 | 11 hours ago

This is the funny thing with Steph. He shoots 12 threes a game so his game has a lot of variance. One game he’ll drop 50 and this subreddit goes crazy. Then the next game he scores 8 points and it’s radio silence. He has high highs and low lows but his lows get brushed under the rug.

BootStrapWill | GSW

3 | 11 hours ago

First of all his lows don’t get brushed under the rug. Every time Steph has had a bad game in the last ten years there has been a r/NBA post on the front page filled with nephews contemplating his demise.

But the reason those threads are always the subject of laughter is because they are by far the outliers in Steph’s career. He averages nearly thirty points a game so a couple low scoring games aren’t really worth anyone’s consideration.

SchlangLankis

1 | 10 hours ago

No one’s contemplating his demise, it’s just the guy will drop 50 one night then go 2-11 from three the next night and drop 8. It’s how his game works, it’s why his ppg is lower and one of the reasons why I don’t think it holds up against other all time great scorers who were more consistent. He does not average almost 30ppg, he only has 4 seasons averaging 27+.

BootStrapWill | GSW

0 | 9 hours ago

Let’s compare Jordan and Steph both at age 32.

Steph 32/6/6 on 65% TS

Jordan 30/4/7 on 58% TS

Games with 20 points or fewer:

Michael - 11

Steph - 10

Games with 40 points or more:

Steph - 11

Michael - 9

Games with 15 points or fewer:

Steph - 3

Michael - 4

So prime Steph was both more efficient and more consistent than prime Jordan lol

SchlangLankis

1 | 7 hours ago

Let’s get back to the consistency thing. You picked one year and you’re calling it a “prime”. Cherry picking doesn’t lead to good conclusions.

You can compare them year by year and you’ll find that Jordan won 10 scoring titles and Steph, once again, was not consistently a top 5 scorer.

BootStrapWill | GSW

1 | 6 hours ago

It’s not cherry picking. I chose a year when they were both the same age and took roughly the same volume of shots.

I’m not going to compare years where Jordan was jacking up 25 shots a game and winning the scoring title to Curry who was sharing the scoring load with another top 5 player.

Furthermore the scoring title is irrelevant to this discussion. We’re dealing with the claim that Curry, more than other great scorers, has more outlier bad games than other great scorers.

SchlangLankis

1 | 5 hours ago

I can’t help you if Steph didn’t take enough shots. Typically when you have an all time scorer you put the ball in their hands and they score and you win.
Kevin Durant had three years on Golden State where he took less shots than Steph in the regular season and he also had a career altering injury. KD still managed 4 scoring titles and 8 years as a top five scorer. He was far more consistent and a better scorer than Steph. The only year KD had under 25ppg was his rookie year.

Saying Steph is more consistent than prime Jordan is absurd though. The level of consistency to win 10 scoring titles is unheard of. There’s only a handful of guys that were even a top 5 scorer in 10 different seasons. Steph had 2 years where he scored at that level, Jordan had 10. There’s no comparison in the scoring consistency, Jordan takes the cake on that against anyone.

And the scoring title is relevant because you need to consistently score at a high level to win the scoring title or be a top 5 scorer. If you drop 50 then only score 10 points your next two games your average is 23ppg. That’s why Steph wasn’t a top 5 scorer consistently, because he offset his amazing games with mediocre and flat out bad games.

BootStrapWill | GSW

1 | 4 hours ago

The top 5 scorers each year is almost always going to be the same or mostly the same as the top 5 FGA per game (except when guys have a tremendous amount of FTA like Embiid).

Last year Shai led the league in points and he led the league in shot attempts.

The year before that Luka led the league in points and shot attempts.

Guess who led the league in FGA seven times? Jordan.

Scoring titles are only a measure of consistently taking a ton of shots. Look at Kobe, won two scoring titles in the years when he led the league in shot attempts.

This is why anybody who knows ball cares about efficiency of scoring rather than volume of scoring and Steph Curry is by far and away the best guard in history when it comes to scoring efficiently.

inefekt | Australia

1 | an hour ago

If you think second threepeat is ‘prime MJ’ then you don’t know much about him as a player. His prime was absolutley the first threepeat. Whatever, you’ve also chosen an anomalous season for Steph, literally his best scoring season (per 100) of his entire career. The MJ season you reference is his just the 7th best of his career in terms of per 100 scoring. Nicely cherry picked.
But I’ll humour you anyway….MJ was 41.4ppg per 100 in the second threepeat, Steph was 40.0ppg per 100 in those same ‘age xx’ seasons of his career.
Now, nobody will ever argue that anyone is more efficient than Steph, save probalby for Jokic fans, it’s a big part of what makes him the best shooter of all time. So of course he’s going to be more efficient than almost everyone, including MJ, so you’re not exactly offering some world’s first analysis there buddy. Also, it’s a fool’s errand to compare efficiency in the modern, offense friendly era to that of other, much more defense oriented eras….not to mention hand checking. It’s just silly to directly compare the two.
If we’re talking seven year primes in terms of scoring and efficiency it would be:
Steph 2016-22
PPG per 100 39.5
rTS+ 115

Jordan 1987-93
PPG per 100 42.6
rTS+ 110

Both very efficient and amazing scorers.

Last night marked Steph Curry’s 94th 35 PT game after turning 30. That is now the most in NBA history, passing Michael Jordan’s 93.